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Mercury Grand Marquis - The Secret of the Panther Platform 

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@CarringtonHollister
@CarringtonHollister 7 лет назад
If loving the Ford Panther cars is wrong then I don't want to be right
@vulcan1753
@vulcan1753 7 лет назад
I'm 57, I'm a drag racer ('68 Camaro) a sports car enthusiast (Corvette C5) those are my fun cars. But I also have a 2006 Mercury Grand Marquis. I cannot say enough things about this car. It is the ideal transportation/long distance touring car. I'm 240 pounds, and I actually fit in it comfortably. I love the soft cushy ride, and the soft cushy leather seats. I like the smooth quiet ride, like floating on air. No, it's handling is not great, but it doesn't need to be. That's not what it's designed for. There are other cars for that. It does have power. I have easily hit 100 mph down a freeway on ramp. Merging into traffic is effortless. And if you need to get ahead of somebody that is blocking the lane you need to be in to make the next exit, just step on it and show them your tail lights. It's much faster than all the little 4 cylinder and V6 cars on the road today. There is a reason they use the Panther cars for police cars. They are fast, tough, and comfortable. They are easy to get in and out of. My '06 has rack and pinion steering so it probably does handle better than a '90s car. Properly taken care of, these cars will pass 300,000 miles, all the while getting high 20's mpg on the highway. Not bad for a 2 ton car. They are also very simple cars. They have a V8 engine that is easy to work on for a late model car, they have rear wheel drive, they have a solid rear axle, mine has rear discs, and they have body on frame construction. The front end on the 2003 and up cars is built like a tank. Beefier than many trucks. The body is solid as a rock, no squeaks or rattles after 120,000 miles. Yes the interior is a bit flimsy, but show me an American car that doesn't have that problem. Part of the reason for that is that this is a very outdated car for it's model year, and that is what I love about it the most. It feels and drives like a big '70s sedan. And it has a nice flat dash that you sit some distance from, not like new models where the dash wraps around you. The top of the dash is also very narrow, like a '70s car. It doesn't stick out very far from the base of the windshield. Both the windshield and rear window are very upright and easy to see through. The wide upright C pillar looks great. The styling is very conservative, again very '70s like. I may keep this car forever, even if I have to replace the engine or transmission. It is the last of the big American land yachts, nothing like it will ever be built again. To me, all that adds up to a very special car indeed. Now if I can just find a hood ornament for it.
@mrbakerskatz
@mrbakerskatz 7 лет назад
Yeah !!
@stuartschultz8823
@stuartschultz8823 7 лет назад
vulcan1753 my dad has a 2010 with 77k my 2005 Scion tC with 157k 5 speed is much faster
@jonathanm1854
@jonathanm1854 7 лет назад
Ive had a 05 and 04 crown vic. The 04, I got my from grandfather who bought it new, 256,000 miles on it when I got it and had never had anything replaced. going to get a 2007 Grand Marquis tomorrow. Im 28, so not many of my friends appreciate the car since its an "old man car" but its one of the best sedans ever made. LOVE EM!
@RPEagles
@RPEagles 7 лет назад
Last Monday i finally got my 2001 grand marquis on the road a week i had bought it(long story with dmv) but my mom's got a 99 and my friends got a 00 marquis. all of them are amazing cars. Such a great car to own. I wish they still made them. btw my friend & i are both 25, both of our cars are still stock and just love the way they are
@TheSearchandfind
@TheSearchandfind 7 лет назад
yeah I got an 04 Grand over 130K? Still ones great but I still want a LS. I'm looking for an 09.
@9tophat
@9tophat 3 года назад
My first time seeing Robert's first Aging Wheels video. Wow, I can see so much of your current stuff in this first one. I like the AW channel very much. I have a 2008 CVPI and love it. It's my only vehicle and my favorite of all vehicles I've owned. The Panthers are indeed outstanding: easy to drive, durable, reliable, comfortable, roomy, V8, RWD, full frame...etc. Mine is a keeper for sure. Cheers!👍😎
@WellsoonMayhem
@WellsoonMayhem 3 года назад
0:00 The Legend was born !
@freddyhollingsworth5945
@freddyhollingsworth5945 8 лет назад
The 4.6 found in the Panther is severely detuned in the name of mpg, durability, and low end torque only. These cars are very adequate around town and don't forget that 4.6 is pulling around a heavy safe body and churning out 16mpg city 25hwy. Not bad for a big heavy boat. You can easily bolt on Mustang performance parts to jump hp to 300, but why? Did I mention by 1994ish these cars could easily see 250-300,000 miles with out much more than a blend door actuator, an intake manifold 96+, and carbon cleanings of the EGR 91-95, although the 4.6 up to 98 could use oil once the valve seals shrunk. The 4R70W is a very robust transmission that occasionally shuddered in the early years, but just add some friction modifier and you'd be good to go. The 4.6 engine often out lives the rest of the car with no know issues such as head gaskets or the such, not even oil leaks are know to this engine. These bodies held up extremely well to salt and age. The interiors are far more durable than what GM was putting out at the time. For the money, you just can't do better. No $$$ CV joints , no timing belt $$$, stainless steel exhaust, stainless steel/aluminum brake/fuel lines 98+, impeccable safety records in crash test. Crazy cheap parts cost and easy to work on bodies and drive trains. I currently own several of these cars and have since 1996. I couldn't imagine a better deal for the $$$.
@starrwoman1
@starrwoman1 7 лет назад
Ditto, very well said. :-)
@user-xg8yy7yl1d
@user-xg8yy7yl1d 6 лет назад
If you want to get performance out of a panther body car buy a p71 or a marauder if you can afford and be lucky enough to find one
@shadowthehedgehog4737
@shadowthehedgehog4737 6 лет назад
These engines are well known for breaking timing chain guides and premature alternator failure. Other than that, they are extremely robust.
@tassonscomedy1826
@tassonscomedy1826 6 лет назад
Lol I get 11 in town in my crown vic
@srcej6
@srcej6 5 лет назад
@@tassonscomedy1826 Do you ever drive on the highway?
@davidlyons9992
@davidlyons9992 9 лет назад
My 1994 Town Car has 260,000 flawless miles. Love driving it every day.
@Kejogre
@Kejogre 4 года назад
You've come a long way since this video. That being said, I now miss my 1995 Crown Vic.
@SukkaPunch321
@SukkaPunch321 8 лет назад
I love my grand Marquis, there's something about owning the last of something.
@rickydavis5541
@rickydavis5541 6 лет назад
SukkaPunch321 I have a 2006 Grand Marquis love it very last Generation of those cars to bad too
@rixille
@rixille 5 лет назад
Yep. Take good care of em.
@Xenamare1
@Xenamare1 3 года назад
I Had a 1997 Mercury Grand Marquis LS . Best car I ever owned . ;_;
@parkerlezotte6743
@parkerlezotte6743 3 года назад
@@Xenamare1 I got a 94 and it’s the best thing I got
@ITZRPG93
@ITZRPG93 8 лет назад
The panther platform is amazing because its tough. I got rear ended by a semi that was doing 100kmh. My crown vic was still working... The semi was not. The car was a total loss, but still ran and went into gear and everything still worked. I slid 200 feet sideways and slammed into a ditch... But I still walked away and my car still ran just fine.
@schwenda3727
@schwenda3727 4 года назад
A Panther car LITERALLY KILLING OFF a semi?! A SEMI?! The world needs to see the evidence!!!
@ToasterTR
@ToasterTR 2 года назад
Quick question Did the gas tank get crumpled at all
@BeKindToBirds
@BeKindToBirds 2 года назад
@@schwenda3727 Makes sense if its a modern semi, they put crumple zones in them too nowadays but still the mass difference is shocking.
@jsplicer9
@jsplicer9 5 лет назад
Been watching your channel since the 944 days, and I just watched this. Never in my life did i think that a video about a 90s panther body would have essays and insults in the comment section. Nobody wrote essays about the 944, the Supra, the Saab, the Trabant. Apparently the most passionate community is that of the grand marquis.
@leschampagnes1
@leschampagnes1 8 лет назад
I have owned a 96 town car, a 96 thunderbird, and now an 05 grand marquis among several other vehicles. I purchased my MGM because it is RWD, comfortable, and super dependable. It's not for drag racing, and it is cheap, but it's a great commuter car in the under-crowded area in which I live. My car is rated at 224 hp and 275 lb/ft. It's quicker than an economy car and gets great highway MPG all while hauling whatever I need in the trunk no problem. The rear leg room is not bad at all unless you have the front seats all the way back. I am 6 foot 1 and don't need the seats nearly all the way back to be comfortable. I really wonder why you failed to mention reliability once in your review of a platform and engine known for reliability....
@twoeightythreez
@twoeightythreez 3 года назад
The 2003-2011 variants still have all the pothole taming qualities these older ones did, but with vastly improved handling. In fact, its a very capable platform and can be made to handle extremely well. The weight distribution is actually a near neutral 52/48 and they are very enjoyable to drive in bad weather. Add in the legendary toughness and they are pretty hard to beat. Yeah, the interiors are a bit cheap feeling at times, but they are also extremely durable. People tend to forget you could get these new for around the same price as a mid level Altima or Accord and these have way more character than those cars do, with fullsize car practicality to boot . Now that they are old and depreciation has bottomed out prices, they are a no brainer, because they are so durable and cheap to repair when they DO break. My 2004 Grand Marquis now has a manual gearbox swap and that makes it very fun to drive! Its even more fun in snow, due to the good weight distribution and RWD. The front end is so tough that roads blocked by snowdrifts are absolutely no problem. This car will effortlessly explode snowbanks that would total out most other cars.....its literally a tank. The fact that there are still so many on the road yet is testament to how durable they are. Nobody is really easy on these cars (especially now that nice ones can be had for under $5 grand) and they just take a lickin and keep on tickin. Oh yeah, to the OP....the seat switch on the door was actually Mercedes inspired....i read somewhere that Mercedes actually made Ford change the shape of the switch because it looked too similar to the ( at the time copyrighted) mercedes seat switch back in 1992. It truly is a shame that Ford just let this thing languish, it was actually pretty contemporary and advanced when it came out in 1992. Keep in mind the same basic body shell lasted all the way to 2011. If Ford would have re done the body/ interior and added ecoboost drivetrains and possibly even hybrid and full electric options, I have no doubt this platform could still be relevant today.
@kennedy796
@kennedy796 6 лет назад
What is the secret to the panther platform? Good design, ergonomic, well built, not fast but fast enough, and extremely utilitarian. I cant think of a car that can crush 600 miles so easily. Ive traveled 600km at 125mph and returned 18 mpg. If you can afford the gas, get one. I loved it and so will you.
@dkt1976dt
@dkt1976dt 9 лет назад
I love the Panther Platform and everything about them, i grew up with them all my life throughout the mid to latter 1970s, 80s, 90s and right to the end of production in 2011. We had 2 door, 4 door and station wagons. I grew up with every model that was produced and we had one of each and i love the 4.6 liter V8 and the 5.0 liter V8. They are soo easy to work on and the parts dont cost a fortune. My first car was an 86 LTD Crown Victoria Country Squire Station Wagon and that car lasted well over 300,000 miles. I currently have an 2004 Mercury Grand Marquis, which is the last generation and was vastly improved in many areas and soo far 130,000 miles and still going strong. Ill keep buying the Panther Platform as long as i can find them. I cant tell you how many i find on dealers lots for low prices and they also have low miles.
@MrJavier1223
@MrJavier1223 4 года назад
Huh, so this is the start of my favorite RU-vid channel.
@bwilliams1182
@bwilliams1182 7 лет назад
I worship my 2000 grand marquis, but you aren't really wrong about any of this. They're odd yet amazing in many ways. I like it because I can work on it myself, I hate paying people to do things I did get the air suspension out, all springs now.
@rollingvee
@rollingvee 8 лет назад
Fun video. Enjoyed. I see you're in Rolla MO. Years ago use to visit my aunt and uncle there at least once a month. He ran a parts store called Hook Auto Supply. Closed years ago; but some of your elders might remember Just bought a 2009 Marquis myself, and so far love it. Good stuff. Thanks.
@dkruitz
@dkruitz 4 года назад
In 2001 I bought a '99 Grand Marquis and loved it, and when the suspension was still fresh (under 200,000 miles) you could throw it around pretty good. I once got 26mpg on a tank of gas going through Oklahoma with 4 people, a dog and a load of Christmas presents and luggage in the back. I had so much nostalgia for that slow cruiser with a good presence, that I bought a 2002 at auction last week for cheap, even though it had over 200,000 miles - not many folks would do that with modern cars. Easy to work on, no less reliable than most anything else on the road, and parts are cheaper than most. A good old car to have IMHO. Power is sufficient, silky smooth transmission, basic features without being overly complicated or potentially troublesome. I expect these to be semi collectible in the future, just because of the whole frame rear drive layout/last of an era.
@ToyotaNutjob
@ToyotaNutjob Год назад
Not as reliable as a lexus
@dkruitz
@dkruitz Год назад
@@ToyotaNutjob I would argue its more reliable, less to go wrong as its less bleeding edge.
@ToyotaNutjob
@ToyotaNutjob Год назад
@@dkruitz wdym less to go wrong lol? They are both ohc v8s. Toyota just makes a more reliable v8 and overall car. Plus a lexus transmission will always last the entire time of the engine all the way up to 500k!!! Have some respect and don't even mention Toyota and Ford in a reliability comparison
@fiorella132
@fiorella132 3 месяца назад
​@@ToyotaNutjobusted está operado del cerebro es mejor la plataforma panter
@jasonallen6836
@jasonallen6836 3 года назад
I have at last found what i have been looking for. A video guaranteed to.make me sleep.
@miffedmax
@miffedmax 6 лет назад
The classic "split bench" seat.
@raeperrin4914
@raeperrin4914 6 лет назад
Oh gosh my grandpa had a light blue one with aluminum chrome wheels i remember him driving it growing up and evetually he got a newer one. Sadly a few years later in 2014 he passed. Tho his newer one still exsists today. And oh boy their a joy to drive.
@vincentcordato8642
@vincentcordato8642 8 лет назад
Great cars. I have my 05' p71, 97' towncar and 86 grand marquis. lovem all!
@conners8911
@conners8911 6 лет назад
I love this car i have a 2000 I always get compliments on the looks it's simple to fix decent mpg feeling like a boss when I drive it
@GrandmaKeith
@GrandmaKeith 4 года назад
I recently purchased a 2011 Grand Marquis LS Ultimate Edition with 103k a couple of weeks ago.
@andynorvell4953
@andynorvell4953 3 года назад
You bought a good car..l own a 06 Grand Marq and a 03 Crown Vic.. Been driving the Vic for 10yrs..and its just as good as the day l bought it.. I got it at 78K and now has 187K..runs like a top..
@Sully9549
@Sully9549 5 лет назад
Love my 02 grand marquis, this car has its own personallity!
@thabrutha9356
@thabrutha9356 5 лет назад
Best car i ever owned. Strong. Smooth. Fast. Spacious. Low maintenance. Good fuel efficiency for its size.
@javaman2883
@javaman2883 Год назад
For MPG, my Grand Marquis isn't much different than my wife's CR-V. We use an app for tracking all our fillups, we've been using it for the past three years, it gives easy statistics and graphs to view. Her CR-V has a 1 MPG edge in city driving 19.5MPG, but mine has a 1-2 MPG edge on the highway 26.8MPG.
@shawny147
@shawny147 9 лет назад
I have the same exact car 95 mercury grand marquis with the ford 4.6. Stock it came with 210 hp. But my dad and i gave it enough love that we got the engine the power it deserves at around 390 hp plus it sounds fantastic straight piped
@ranchurdhimster4955
@ranchurdhimster4955 6 лет назад
Shawn what did you do to the engine? I have a 96
@swvader
@swvader 7 лет назад
DUDE i was laughing my ass off when you showed the dash panel and its all digital with the Knight rider music.. I have a 2000 with that dash but i do love the shit out of my 2000 i just got it i had a 89 for 9 years
@RussellNelson
@RussellNelson 3 года назад
Oh, Robert, you have come so far in six years.
@combatentropy
@combatentropy 9 лет назад
Loved the video, dude. Please do a whole lot more :)
@Xxmeca421xX
@Xxmeca421xX 5 лет назад
The instrument panel looks awesome.. You are crazy
@an2niotransitproductions813
@an2niotransitproductions813 4 года назад
Remi He has a point though. It has everything you don’t want but it has no tachometer that you want.
@cameronlingo2969
@cameronlingo2969 3 года назад
It kind of doesn't make sense in that car though. Even by the 90s, the American land yacht was kind of a grandma car. It's a dashboard that should have dials with needles on them, rather than some overly-complicated and over-computerized system for a buyer who probably didn't even have a computer at home.
@Xxmeca421xX
@Xxmeca421xX 3 года назад
@@cameronlingo2969 slap some mustang gt heads on it, computer, intake and dual exhaust and they move
@andywood6376
@andywood6376 4 года назад
Wow...revisiting this 6 years later and the contrast is stark.
@fullcend-tkm73
@fullcend-tkm73 4 года назад
I have a 2006 Lincoln Continental with 195k and runs like new and its MINT Airbags, motor, trans all like new I'm a Ford Tech at a dealer and seen it come in on trade 85yr old man traded it in and sat for 2 yrs New brakes and rotors and front wheel bearings Inside is just amazingly clean, not a single thing is wrong with it I LOVE THIS CAR, best car I have ever owned
@scottwitkowski1298
@scottwitkowski1298 6 лет назад
Hearing you insult this car is akin to insulting my mother. Im getting defensive. I love the panther platform more then anything ever made. My dream is to one day pick up a Mercury Marauder. BTW your grand marquis has 190 now but can be 235 with a couple cheap mods.
@ohhhwolfy2536
@ohhhwolfy2536 6 лет назад
A LOT of people like us love panther platform cars. This guy just had a bad day or something. Oh, yeah...get an early 2000s Marauder and it has DOHC, 302 horsepower! Not too shabby for a 15-year-old engine design...
@benriley5214
@benriley5214 5 лет назад
@@ohhhwolfy2536 Absolutely, I'm a Chevy guy since my mid 20s, my dad always loved, and drove his Ford's. I still loved my dad even though I felt he had poor taste in vehicle manufacturers ... When he passed I inherited his 2001 Grand Marquis. I've been driving that car for three years now, high 20s Hwy. Mpg. Replaced the idler arm at 198,000 ish miles, its still going strong at 2004,000 miles. I LOVE that car, I now understand my dad's love of Crown Vic's and Grand Marquis.
@jacobt1027
@jacobt1027 5 лет назад
Scott Witkowski What about 600 bhp.
@mortonfamily8609
@mortonfamily8609 4 года назад
This is an older post but I just acquired a Grand Marquis. Can you please share?
@twoeightythreez
@twoeightythreez 4 года назад
@@ohhhwolfy2536 Yeah, quite nice. At least the DOHC 4.6 has some respect, unlike a certain Nissan V8 nobody knows about, which has more power than the DOHC 4.6 and came out in 1989. The Nissan VH45DE In My opinion is the engine Ford reverse Engineered to make the Coyote V8 the Coyote looks almost identical. Remember, the VH45 probably began development in the MID 1980s.
@simontemplar5313
@simontemplar5313 7 лет назад
It's funny to see how seriously people take these reviews even though it's a known fact how poorly American cars of the 80's and early 90' were made. Mind you, I only drive US made cars myself, but the interior quality and exterior body panel fitting is not the strong suit of these cars. Also the engines had lackluster performance when compared to, let's say, Mitsubishi 6G72 V6. Don't get me wrong, these cars have soul and character, but they definitely are not the all mighty roadwarriors people think they are.
@jjlilo8920
@jjlilo8920 5 лет назад
Wrong Wrong Wrong
@twoeightythreez
@twoeightythreez 5 лет назад
The Panthers were an exception just like the B bodies. Yeah the engines were very weak for the displacement but they were adequate and they make nice noises...which is a big part of what makes a car nice to own. v6 engines simply sound silly and they dont get any better mileage then a V8. The 4.6 was designed to be smoooooooth and reliable, which it is.
@kylemichaels3373
@kylemichaels3373 4 года назад
@@twoeightythreez Weak for their displacement? 235hp out of a 281 cubic inch engine isn't bad. Remember this was long before the times of 1hp per cubic inch or more like we have today.
@twoeightythreez
@twoeightythreez 4 года назад
@@kylemichaels3373 The original Windsor 4.6 only had 190hp. I had a 1992 Grand Marquis which was very smooth and reliable. Still not much power for its displacement. Just because it was more power than the stock 5.0 Ford small block doesn't mean it wasn't low output. It was. 1hp per cube wasn't uncommon in the 1990s, just not as common as today. For example, The Infiniti Q45 back in 1989 had a 4.5l (273ci) V8 that was rated at 276hp....and it actually put out closer to 330hp so not uncommon at all. More examples? oK. How about one from the same time period, same manufacturer, even! Ford Taurus SHO...222hp, 181cid So yeah, the 4.6 is pretty low output even for its day. Doesn't matter, still a damn good workhorse engine.
@davidmiller9485
@davidmiller9485 4 года назад
@@twoeightythreez It should be pointed out that America is a large country. When we drive somewhere on a trip, were on a multi-hour journey. Some of our cars (lets be honest here, most of our cars) are designed to make that trip less painful. Hence the "land barge" vehicles we have.
@monkeyman2174
@monkeyman2174 Год назад
Your first video! This was epic to watch!
@TheOzzyMartin1
@TheOzzyMartin1 2 года назад
The kmart in the background really adds to this experience
@joepennant
@joepennant 5 лет назад
Made me nostalgic for another panther body. Living in New York, you learn to appreciate them. They did have a tendency to occasionally go up in flames. A amusing quirk.
@wallyworld9312
@wallyworld9312 8 лет назад
Your review shouldn't have been called "The Secret of the Panther Platform" since it is very clear that you just don't have any understanding about what makes these cars so fantastic and why they have a large loyal following. I am a 53 year old gear head and have owned many different performance cars over my lifetime. I have restored several cars and currently have a car dealer's license which has allowed me the opportunity to buy, own, drive and sell many different types of cars. I have previously owned a 1995 Crown Victoria LX HPP and a 1997 Grand Marquis LS HPP. Currently, I own a 1996 Crown Victoria LX HPP, a 1999 Grand Marquis GS HPP and a 2007 Ford Crown Victoria LX Sport. Additionally, I was a CHP Officer for 27 years and personally drove many different police cars including the Panther platform cars from the late 1980s until just recently. I drove these cars extremely hard over the years and my life often depended on their capabilities. They always took the beating, hung in there and never let me down. In my humble opinion, the Ford Panther platform cars are easily one of the best overall vehicles ever built, PERIOD. They may not be the best in any one area, but they do so many things very very well. They are RWD V8 cars that ride and handle extremely well, get reasonably good fuel mileage, have good power, are very safe, they are easy to modify for improved performance, and parts are inexpensive and readily available. More importantly, they are reliable and tough as nails. Perhaps, you just didn't get the opportunity to drive a good example long enough to appreciate their fine qualities.
@upliftingsiren4946
@upliftingsiren4946 4 года назад
Ever heard of sarcasm
@GeauxLSUTigers12
@GeauxLSUTigers12 7 лет назад
I have a 1999 Grand Marquis and a 1993 Town Car, and I wouldn't trade in my panthers for the world. I love those two cars. Both have the 4.6l v8 engine, but the 93 Town Car seems to have a lot more power. They are both "pillow ass rides" as my Grandpa would put it. I don't really know why I love them, but I love my landboats. Comfiest cars on the road.
@vincentparr3136
@vincentparr3136 21 день назад
Had an 01 Grand Marquis, sold it because I needed some cash and regretted it right away! Have a 95 Town Car, and I love it but I actually think I preferred to Marquis. Can't go wrong with a panther platform. Friend of mine has an 02 Buick Park Avenue and he tells me it feels way less roomy after riding in my Panther!
@robertcarly4186
@robertcarly4186 Год назад
I bought a 96' MGM 2 yrs ago from the Estate of a mechanic. It had 77, 500 miles and had not been driven in the winter. The deceased man's Nephew was selling it and he wanted someone who appreciated the car like his Uncle and would take care of it. I got it for $2500. It's been a great car and since I don't have a car payment, I can afford gas.
@larrysmith5130
@larrysmith5130 3 года назад
Your commentary and editing are gold!
@RichieRouge206
@RichieRouge206 6 лет назад
Yay first episode- your channel rocks. The ‘Grandma Keith’ and Crown Vic are awesome
@TheGatorChompion
@TheGatorChompion 5 лет назад
“And this is snow”
@rixille
@rixille 5 лет назад
Digital instrument clusters were optional that people could ask for when buying the car, they are otherwise always analog. Buttery smooth ride. Also gearheads love it because it is easy to work on, and modding it is not that much hard work to get higher performance out of it. Depending on the model, there was handling and performance package options for the Crown Vic and Grand Marquis, along with the LX sport and LSE respectively. The Mercury Marauder is the king of the panthers but the newer generation only saw a limited run from 03 - 04. If you have a base model, it is super easy to give it an extra 30 horsepower with dual exhaust, a larger air intake from a P71 and ported plenum. The Jmod is implemented as an easy transmission mod that prolongs its life and makes it shift faster than stock.
@EnthusiastCarHangar
@EnthusiastCarHangar 3 года назад
I owned a Crown Vic back in the 90’s into the 2000’s and loved it. I still have a Town Car and it’s a great vehicle.
@TheMrmmkkpro
@TheMrmmkkpro 8 лет назад
i own a 99 LTC , it's a super dependable , great ride quality looks nice also , if I want to drive something with power I take my 1980 t/a out , with 540 cubic inches of pure pontiac power it rocks , back to the lincoln , its a great car.
@warriormanmaxx8991
@warriormanmaxx8991 3 месяца назад
re: t/a = stands for Pontiac Trans Am ... writer too lazy to spell out an odd abbreviation.
@chicagojim169
@chicagojim169 7 лет назад
the reason people love the panther platform so much is because it's a cruiser. when you have to drive a long distance you ride very comfortably and the seats aren't tideous to sit in, there is enough room to carry whatever you want, and the vehicle isn't too terrible on gas,(I know this because I in fact have a grand marquis myself). they are easy to fix, parts are cheap, they don't require too much maintenance other than common preventative maintenence. the car is an ideal vehicle in many aspects such as: first car, reliable daily driver, road tripping, livery service, taxi cabs, police cars and much more. the panther platform/grand marquis are great and useful vehicles for so many people and purposes and that's why people love these cars
@AlastorTheNPDemon
@AlastorTheNPDemon 3 года назад
Can't wait to get back into my manual swapped Marquis!
@slrn832472577
@slrn832472577 5 лет назад
That's the kind of trunk where you find out just how big it is by how many dead bodies you can put in it.
@80sgemini30
@80sgemini30 7 лет назад
I own both a 2000 and 2004 marquis ,I absolutely love this vehicle there is nothing bad about it in my opinion. I'll own a 70's model next . Awesome video by the way you had me rolling! #PANTHER
@brownsfan6447
@brownsfan6447 6 лет назад
Chad Douglas My grandfather owned one and gave it to his daughter. She totaled the same one 6 times and it still ran until the 6th total loss. 5th accident a deer jumped off a hill and landed on her car destroying the front end. By the time they rebuilt it, it had 4 different tire tracks. She somehow totaled the car that many times with poor driving but it persisted on.
@MrSanesaw
@MrSanesaw 5 лет назад
Im currently in the market for a PANTHER Grand Marquis and found a really low mileage like new 2002 Grand Marquis....Is this a mistake to buy a pre-2003 version with the old frame design and old soft steering?
@ToyotaNutjob
@ToyotaNutjob Год назад
@@brownsfan6447 typical. Never give a dumb hoe a legendary car. They will always wreck it or some sh8t
@vermontvermont9292
@vermontvermont9292 2 года назад
I just got a 97. Had to fix some rust. But it's fixed. I love this car!
@therealCodyCapps
@therealCodyCapps 9 лет назад
welcome to RU-vid and congrats on the video. you stated some good points my sister owns a Lincoln town car from 1993. the car phone module as mentioned at 2:43 came at the beginning of the 2nd generation town car, in 1990. I absolutely love these cars I just have a hard time getting in them and out of them. the pedal is very soft in these cars which I hate. most of the power and torque from the 4.6 is bottom end and it takes off well when the pedal is floored. panther body cars are city cars so that first gear is home most of the time. I also have to disagree with the door switches for the seat. It's a PITA to fix and get to. Our town car has received many words that most people shouldn't hear.
@trep53
@trep53 2 года назад
I bought a ‘95 Crown Vic new drove it for 140K mi and that car didn’t owe me a dime. Other than routine maintenance It had one repair to the EGR system in all that time. Loved it, one of the best cars I ever had. I don’t miss it but I really enjoyed driving it at the time. I think it was a good “road rage” car. The acceleration was best above 35 mph as it got up to freeway speed quickly once it got moving. Oh and it had a loud multi-note horn.(but never used it)
@bhzoop
@bhzoop 2 года назад
I just got a 2004 Grand Marquis GS for my first car. I do quite enjoy it, but unlike the model shown in the video, I have a more traditional instrument panel(with no tachometer) and I didn't have the automatic air conditioner. Also the entertainment setup has a CD player/radio. Update: Got the automatic air conditioner installed, along with a CD player/Cassette/radio.
@johntrotter7889
@johntrotter7889 Год назад
I think you missed the boat on this vid... I was a panther skeptic myself till I got a gig in Miami. I would be flying into Miami every week but the client insisted that I 'cab it' instead of getting a rental. This ultimately made sense since dealing with a car in Miami Beach is terrible. Anyhow, after a few months, I noticed that all the cabs were panthers and after chatting with the cabbies and eyeballing the odometers, I noticed that most of them had more than 250,000 miles on them. The drivers said the cars would ALWAYS hit at least 300,000 miles with zero issues, other than the the intake manifold problem and typical maintenance items. I ended up buying a Town Car for travel after that gig and would drive back and forth from Knoxville, to Washington DC every week. I was always getting 25+ MPG and loved the ride. Mom and dad borrowed my Lincoln and would not give it back, so I picked up a 2002 MGM and was getting 29+ MPG with it on the DC trips as long as I set the cruise at 73 MPH. The car is huge and I could stuff the trunk with coolers, more luggage than I needed and still had an 'empty' car for the trip. The reason people love these cars is the guarantee of 300,000 relatively troublefree miles and the awesome fuel mileage on the highway.
@Accostrophe
@Accostrophe 5 лет назад
My dad bought one brand new in 1996. Everytime I see a panther body, i think of my childhood and the many roadtrips in the back of that 96 grand marquis. I miss that car. I wonder if my dad does...
@ElectromasterTech
@ElectromasterTech 3 года назад
Where it all began
@steveg5122
@steveg5122 7 лет назад
A great start to a great show.
@borndead1997
@borndead1997 3 года назад
I have an '03 base model that doesn't even have as much inside the car as this one. I love the color!
@user-cw1su7vw3n
@user-cw1su7vw3n 5 месяцев назад
I have owned many of the panthers all were brand new most were ordered. Wife was a home visiting nurse. The trunk is huge held all kind of medical equipment. She would put 40,000 miles per year with a 37 year record. She got into many accidents the car held up with no injuries. I still drive the last one. 2006 Lincoln towncar 180000 miles it is the one that is 6 inches longer I love it . I am 75 yo.I tow a small trailer to Florida every year tow great I will hate to replace it . 24 miles per gallon on the highway. My wife would sit in the patients drive way and do all of her medical charting so they had many hours of ideling keeping the air on in the summer and heat in the winter . I paid 46000.00 brand new. Very little problems.
@Oldbmwr100rs
@Oldbmwr100rs 6 лет назад
I just picked up an '08 Crown victoria former sheriffs department police model. If you want to see just how good the panther platform and 4.6 engine can be, go find and test one. The car is pretty amazing handling and driving wise. No sag or squishiness at all, steering is amazing for an american boat class car. The Mercury of this generation would be easy to mod with cop suspension parts. Now for being the kind of fleet sale car it is, it's shockingly solid and tight even after hard police and cab use. Transmission tune for these is firm shifting, downshifts quick and the cars power is pretty effortless. This is why people like the panther platform.
@davidbrennan5
@davidbrennan5 7 лет назад
I own one very similar to the one in the video but its a 97. Pros easy and cheap to fix, good safety ratings, large interior/trunk. Auto climate control works well. Brakes are excellent. The digital dash is unique and I like it. The engine is very quiet. The car is very reliable and durable. Keypad entry is great. The parts from many years are interchangeable. Cons styling is bland, fuel mileage in town stinks, cup holders stink, stock radio is basic and useless, steering is a bit twitchy and car handles poorly with the soft springs. The 2 piece wiper cowl warps and the wipers that park themselves stink in winter. It is a very relaxing car to drive because its so quiet comfortable and soaks up bumps so well. It will not tire you out on a long trip. The cars are excellent value for your money if your on a tight budget.
@starxlr7863
@starxlr7863 8 лет назад
You know I would take one of these Mercury's any day over all the CRAP and foreign cars out there now. These are so much better than all the new stuff. Keep fixing these cars and keep them going. These were very good years for Ford in general. I prefer the Lincoln's myself, but these are just as good. Your review was mediocre. American's use to like everything BIG. Now many American's are getting brainwashed into getting rid of their good older american cars for this new foreign crap! So sad while these cars go to waste. No more pride for American quality and support for US anymore.
@dominickfoster9858
@dominickfoster9858 8 лет назад
+AMCNorthstar 93 I agree. I've driven my share of foreign cars whose main purpose for existing is a few bucks saved in gas. These old cars are about comfort. Also, everybody hammers the low power output for such a substantial engine but, I always thought these cars moved pretty well. I mean, it's no sports car but it accelerates a lot better than my girlfriend's accord or any other foreign car that makes that horrible whining noise when it accelerates as opposed to the warm, dignified rumbly growl of the 4.6 in my 2008. It's just a different mindset. These were the common cars back then and when you compare them to the common cars of today, they're a lot better.
@starxlr7863
@starxlr7863 8 лет назад
Dominick Foster EXACTLY!!!!! I glad I'm not the only one to say the same thing. These cars are so much better in every way possible than any new car and especially foreign cars. Even foreign people in other countries like big American cars more than their own cars which is why you see more and more american cars being shipped overseas. This country has so many foolish people getting sucked into these new cars. These cars have a nice sound going down the road and sounds a whole lot better than those stupid loud rice burner cars that only get you a few more miles and lot less comfort and safety. I would take one of these big Fords or GM cars over any new car hands down!! I have mainly GM cars now. I drive a 2005 Deville as my daily driver and Iove it!! I have been around Cadillac's my entire life but I always loved the Ford's and Lincoln's just as much. My favorite two auto makers are Ford and GM. What's nice about both the Lincoln town Car and the Cadillac's is that they are built right in Michigan by proud auto workers!
@twoeightythreez
@twoeightythreez 5 лет назад
These cars are not going to waste. They are literally the cheapest and easiest cars to keep on the road now....very durable and plentiful enough that you basically can buy another when yours breaks amd use your old one for parts.
@h.l.martin620
@h.l.martin620 5 лет назад
I love the big cars.
@jeremy32100
@jeremy32100 9 лет назад
Great Video.These cars are fully loaded. Yea 1995 was a good while back but can you believe all the high tech stuff these cars had then? I love the digital dashboard it sure does remind me of Knight Rider. Not the mention the automatic on off head lights and keyless entry keypad plus the remote entry phobe. This is really a high end car. My family had one just like yours we had a 1996 model and then later on we got the 2000 Grand Marquis. Both cars were excellent were fun and very comfortable rides. Both our 1996 and 2000 models lasted us over 200,000 miles. I wish Ford still made these cars I think these are the most reliable ever. Sure Miss the Grand Marquis, Town Car and Vics
@luthermoore2969
@luthermoore2969 Год назад
You know I've seen people with nothing but GM and Chevy in there driveway and then they got a crown vic setting right there. Just can't deny something so iconic and built solid
@thornmatthew8395
@thornmatthew8395 5 лет назад
The cluster part had me dying!
@ScottStappsintheBAR
@ScottStappsintheBAR 3 года назад
I have always wanted a Grand Marquis. Now, at 30 years old, I just bought a 2009 with 33k miles from the original owner in Phoenix, AZ. I plan on keeping it forever.
@SpikerDragon95
@SpikerDragon95 3 года назад
Funny how in this first video his voice is soo deep and serious but now he is more open and happy
@soundofimpact3924
@soundofimpact3924 7 лет назад
The best built American cars. When Taxi and Livery companies buy Grand Marquis and Crown Victorias with 250000 miles...and keep them serviced to get another 250000 miles out of them...enough said. They do not handle as bad as you're saying, and are quite comfortable. Every car built has their own set of idiosycracies, yes. But to pick on a misunderstood panther platform, is absurd. in 2003 when they changed over to rack and pinion, they handled even better. Check out a Marauder and get back to me. If you know what one is...
@YOUGOTIT210
@YOUGOTIT210 6 лет назад
A year later, and I still cannot get over your complete misunderstanding of what a Mercury Grand Marquis is. It is not a sports car. This car, which stopped production in 2011, was the last of the great American full size cars. You definately drunk the cool aid, that has persuaded you that luxury, a soft ride, great engineering and just an all around pleasurable ride are wrong. But, alas, I will give you are few more years, and then when you hit around 50 years of age, perhaps then you might just think ---- "you know, those old big, smooth riding American Sedans, were pretty nice - sure wish I had that old 95 Mercury Grand Marquis".
@davidhunt6463
@davidhunt6463 6 лет назад
Here in England I have several big V8s. I have a 2000 Cadillac STS which I have to say rides like a magic carpet and is actually really good around twisty, bendy roads. I think the air suspension probably has a lot to do with that. It is front wheel drive but makes up for that with the roadholding. It has the 4.6 Northstar 32 valve V8 which puts out about 305 bhp so it's quick and comfortable. However the plastic is exactly the same as your Marquis which is a shame as it find what is otherwise a pretty nice car. I also have a 1997 Audi S8 4.2 V8. That has 4WD and about 380 bhp. That is designed to rocket away from the lights and it does. It also hugs the roads. The plastic trim is thick and soft, it is very high quality and doesn't creak or squeak at all. It also acts as sound deadening and works well. It completely destroys both STS and my 4.0 litre V8 Jaguar in a drag race. The Jag is very comparable to the STS in both performance and comfort and handling but even that can't match the Audi for trim quality, although it is better than the Caddy.
@xilrowemedia
@xilrowemedia 2 года назад
Good job. Entertaining.
@Xenamare1
@Xenamare1 6 лет назад
I had a 1997 Mercury Grand Marquis in this color and model . LS . I miss it dearly .
@uhmwhat2895
@uhmwhat2895 2 года назад
those 90's panthers had tire rod issues, there was even a recall on some models. my dad has a 90 something crown vic lx and his tire rod busted just the other day, I'm looking for a later year grand marquis.
@ahbalone
@ahbalone 9 лет назад
You still don't understand these vehicles. They actually get good gas mileage. Cargo space like an ugly van. Room for your overweight relatives. Road presence. Get a Town Car and maybe you'll figure it out.
@Meekerextreme
@Meekerextreme 8 лет назад
+ahbalone Also you could toss on a hitch and haul a trailer or small camper.
@Rizzler420-uh4yd
@Rizzler420-uh4yd 25 дней назад
I owned two P71 crown vics before I got my Model 3 rwd. The specs are almost IDENITCAL in every regard, and it feels exactly the same to drive.
@hodgepodgegarage1
@hodgepodgegarage1 4 года назад
Quarantine brought me here
@-fuk57
@-fuk57 Год назад
Holy crap! I've been subscribed to this channel for years and found this video because I'm buying a '99 Grand Marquis tomorrow! This is Aging Wheels' first video?! I must be doing something right!
@_Devil
@_Devil 4 года назад
The birth of a madman started with this video
@user-xg8yy7yl1d
@user-xg8yy7yl1d 4 года назад
Its a relatively cheap vehicle thats pretty modern yet can be worked on with simple hand tools parts are plentiful and it can accept quite a few modifications because due to having the same engine as the mustang it can take most of its mods. Also dead reliable WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT DAMN INTAKE MANIFOLD!!
@josemanuel5749
@josemanuel5749 6 лет назад
Grand Marquis, for me the perfect car! I want really bad a 1998!
@kaylamarie8309
@kaylamarie8309 6 лет назад
You don't exactly sound like you are a fan of the Mercury Grand Marquis lol. I own a 1998 model Merc. Grand Marquis and yep, she is a giant boat with a huge trunk. Rides great and easy to work on. It's been a great car so far and I have no plans of getting rid of it. It's my second vehicle as I usually drive a 05 Chevy Silverado 1500 ext. cab long bed 5.3 Vortec. Sometimes it's just fun to drive the old Merc. Very smooth ride and easy to work on.
@marquezjoel9682
@marquezjoel9682 4 года назад
The knightrider music at the speedo comment😂
@ericrojasvelez8891
@ericrojasvelez8891 Год назад
They all good... best years 03/04....specially marauder and crown vic lx with console floor shifter
@forestgrump2168
@forestgrump2168 2 года назад
I LOVE my 2008 merc gran marc. these were great cars . it is a shame you didn't understand what this car was designed for . they have a mustang for folks who want what you want .
@wc2006
@wc2006 29 дней назад
i love how this is the same guy that owns the trabant
@sdusb1243
@sdusb1243 Год назад
Dude this is so weird to come back to the first video purely on coincidence. Looking to buy an 03.
@unicorn63372
@unicorn63372 Год назад
I absolutely love my 1999 Crown Vic LX model. I have had the car since June 2019. The ODO had 89050 when I bought it and has about 108400 now. Will not part with it👍🙂☑️. I will buy a Grand Marquis, if I come across one in very good condition, as a 2nd car. Superb vehicles.
@vegansaxon3962
@vegansaxon3962 4 года назад
If I was to put 33 inch mud tires on this, could the rear differential have 4:56 gear ratio installed or would I need another axle?
@NS-lz6jh
@NS-lz6jh 5 лет назад
That digital instrument panel is part of a package that includes suspension.
@lazarusrize
@lazarusrize 3 года назад
This was great! 😂👊🏻
@BIGMANMUSIK
@BIGMANMUSIK 9 месяцев назад
I have 2 97 crown lx’s one bought with 38,000 miles now 51,000 miles for $1400 bucks mint. Just got one about 21/2 months ago for $2000 with 17,089 miles on it. True gems and I love them more than my 2010 Escalade! 😂
@twoeightythreez
@twoeightythreez 5 лет назад
I have a 1993. The 5.0l that the 4.6 replaced had 150hp. Its 190hp and 265lb-ft. HP is just a number people use to talk shit about cars.....its plenty adequate for this car's intended purpose. I think the brakes work just fine. Very strong brakes (4 wheel disc) Yeah the feel isnt thr best but its not supposed to be sporty. I love it for my 60 mile one way commute. I prefer the cloth interior my car has. Same issue with doors but i dont care. Most of them has analog gauges. Why do you need a tachometer with an automatic anyway? You could get automatic climate control in a 1968 cadillac and in panther cars in the 1980s. The trunk is one of the things i love about the car. You can fit 5 wheels and tires in that trunk (including spare). Rear legroom is only really bad when front seats are all the way back which means most people wont reach the pedals...and if you want a panther car with legroom you can always get a town car (6 inches longer wheelbase). BTW why knock the RWD? This boat is hands down the best handling car in snow i have ever owned. Very well balanced and i live in a very hilly area. I have driven this car in blizzards With snow tires and it goes anywhere. A set of chains and you could probably plow snow with a Panther car. If weather conditions are too bad for this car, you shouldn't be driving no matter what you have.
@alexflosho
@alexflosho 2 года назад
I love how the intro is a tire falling over
@301Pont
@301Pont 9 лет назад
The secret of the Panther Platform for myself is the full chassis and RWD. No cars really have this design anymore. My family has never owned a FWD car.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin 8 лет назад
Are you from Missouri.
@techmaven5900
@techmaven5900 7 лет назад
The car does what it was designed to do VERY well. Using the "Net" horsepower rating, 190HP isn't bad for this type of car..Ford's old solid lifter 289 Hi-Po was rated at 271hp, but made an actual 190 net horsepower.
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