The worst part about DL men dating women is they are stealing all that time she could be building with someone who actually loves, appreciates and respects her. It's selfish and evil.
💯💯Very dangerous territory too 😰, men like that I believe are the main ones unaliviving people to keep such a secret,matter of a fact I'm convinced that majority of femicide is a result of DL men.
These men know they like men, yet don’t care about hurting women. That’s why I side eye ppl who cheerlead men who come out later in life after marrying and having kids with a woman. That man knew this whole time, yet who’s to lie and steal the years of a woman because he’s a coward. This isn’t on us. Men have created a hostile environment so other men can’t come out. They choose to deceive women and it’s absolutely diabolical.
My intuition is enough proof for me. I don't need to snoop, conduct any investigations, or anything like that. I'm watching the signs and trusting my gut feelings. Every time I went against my own feelings, it went wrong.
Stop experimenting with your ancestors… intuition is not U. So, no need to, “trust yourself” - for those who aren’t practicing self worth on a daily basis.
My dad lied to my mom for 35 years. He finally admitted it when my mom caught him in bed with his current partner. He knew since he was 14. Makes me so mad/sad he chose to lie and cheat for so many decades. He’s very happy now but my mom is struggling to trust men.
Wow. This is just horrid. My daughter is a drug addict. She cleaned up -- 2 years, back in college, paid off debt, paid cash for car, worked her butt off (was not living w me.). I gave her the chance to move w me out of state. I bought house -- she had a good job, continued college, kept up w her car, paid 1/2 to me ON TIME MONTHLY rent/utilities, saved up THOUSANDS. All to find out that she was shooting up again, and had been for a few months ,kicked her out w a laundry basket of her clothes at 4am years ago. Point is, I'll bet I know how your poor momma feels - what burns me is not her choices but the deception via the manipulation. That hurts. She is still alive thank God. Hug your mom for me.
I know how your mom feels just not 30 plus years of it. I am in the same spot 7 yrs. I don't trust no body anymore. I just can't. Meanwhile they are out getting everyone to believe the fake mask they put on. Don't worry though, they will continue to do the same shit for their whole lives, and im sure that's how all their relationships end, the other partner finds out and the narc can't be honest about anything. These sick people don't deserve to have any decent people in their lives. It's my hope they find the same kind of horrendous people that they are, and have that game played on them harder than they play to others... God might forgive but I never will
As a openly gay guy, that is my gripe with men on the DL I feel bad for your dad that he never felt the safety to be himself but what he did was just wrong, hurtful to your mother and to you, and it’s long lasting, that betrayal will never go away. Whether you keep it a secret to prevent hurt it’s still hurtful and really cruel. That’s another topic of discussion it’s not necessarily homophobia but resentment towards gay people. Is it our fault? no, but I tell some gay people this, that you do have people that will be bad to us because of what there DL parent had done to their family, and that hurt will take many forms including anger towards us because they haven’t dealt with the hurt. Not saying you, but that’s the reality we live in. Wishing you and your mom to find peace.
The problem is that women are not allowed to be angry about the betrayal and they are not allowed to say that they are disgusted by the fact that their men is or was sleeping with other men and the Homosexual Husband is being celebrated for coming out its unfair
Blame the new wave of LGBTQIA and all of the pick-me queer women that don't want to acknowledge that men like this are problematic. Obviously, not all women and AFAB folks are pick-mes. But unfortunately, at least half of that community of women, especially masculine women, are massive pick-mes with severe low self esteem. They cap hard for bisexual men and yet, the great majority of these pick-me queer women/AFAB folks NEVER get chosen, just like cis hetero pick-me women. All of it ultimately stems from toxic internalized misogyny.
You can be upset or angry, but do it about the right issues my guy. Yall will take this betrayal and use it as an excuse to say some of the most vitriolic and homophobic shit and as a cudgel against straight, gay, and bi men of all kinds.
Yall use this one instance of betrayal and blow it out of proportion to use against all men, hope yall get help someday. No one celebrates DL men, except maybe desperate gay men.
This is part of why I no longer support the LGBTQIA. For too long I have watched them celebrate down low men, extending no compassion at all towads the betrayed woman, dismissing her entire life being turned up side down as nothing.
Y’all act like gay people are the worst things in the world even though I heterosexual man can cheat on you with three different women somehow a gay man is sucking your soul
Thank you, bc there’s a reason sodomy is a sin that cries to heaven for vengeance. That part of our body is not meant for a penis to go into. Unfortunately I’ve been called homophobic after leaving a relationship that was DL and it’s not being homophobic when someone puts ur life in danger.
The second was just cruel. Having the audacity to be shocked that his wife wanted to work things out because, unlike him, she was actually in love. And throwing her out? He didn't even care for her as a friend let alone a wife.
@@jaijai5250 It actually makes a lot of sense considering how long he probably lied about being in love with/ attracted to her. She was in love with him enough to marry him, those feelings don't just go away once someone comes out.
@@johnnieelizabeth9752That all depends on the woman. I personally would feel desperate and disgusted for trying to work things out after finding out something like that tbh.🫣 But to each his her own she has a right to do what she wants to it's her life. I wish her the best and hope it turns out the way she desires. That healing process is going to suck if it doesn't!!
Ladies, any "toddler man" that Chuck's tantrums, because they prefer something, that you as a person are uncomfortable with, is a major red flag. He doesn't view you as a person rather than an object, to satisfy his desires, and if you're nice enough to give in just once, all he will have to do is chuck another tantrum whenever you try and set your boundaries. Run, run like the wind away from these men, save yourself the heartache.
It also doesn’t sit well that a woman always has to first do a disclaimer of “I have no problem with the 🌈 community” we’re not obligated to support that shit just to avoiding offending someone that’s ridiculous.
Because they gonna throw a tantrum. You can’t hurt them but they can hurt you all day every day but don’t ever question them and their beloved community other wise you are a bigot…a phobic …a TERF… and al the other silly names they give to anyone who doesn’t bow down at the alter of their degeneracy.
I saw other RU-vidr talk about how many narcissist men are withholding intimacy from women because they are on the DL pretending to be straight, and it really resonated with something I experienced and suspected
When I was in the Army a new soldier came into my office to get his ID card registered. I just KNEW this young man was gay. He then mentions his female fiancé would be joining him shortly. I was so lost because he was OBVIOUSLY very gay (imo). They ended up getting married, but one day he was telling me that he was so annoyed with her and wanted her to go back to their home town. Fast forward years later, we’re both out of the Army and he is openly gay now married to a man. He shares his life on Facebook and Instagram. When I first saw that he was now openly gay, all I could say was, “I knew it!” It’s just really sad that he married that girl in front is all of their friends and family back home. But it made me think someone in his town had to have known. I mean he was very feminine and flaming y’all, and his resentment towards her was definitely because he wasn’t being honest with himself.
@@Denzelswife-rb7qz Doubtful. A lot of women are very innocent and don't know what the red flags represent. And if they do happen to sense it, Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
Why would he get married to her knowing that he's gay from the jump.... That's just diabolical and absurd....... I know that woman was traumatized and damaged....
I used to date a man years ago that was obsessed with the back entrance. I never understood why. I think maybe that was his issue, he was DL. He harassed me all the time and kept trying every which way to get me into it. I ended up moving away and he basically stopped talking to me. But why would a man want to do the dirty when he's got access to the way that was made for that activity other than he's really gay?
@JeneaneDeMarco Oh, I definitely know. My Obgyn explained that it isn't good to do a lot of backdoor activities because of that, and it's easier to get stds because of the small tearing that usually happens. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want backdoor incontinence, no thank you. Lol
Yes you said it lots of men out there like this more than anyone would want to admit and that is why we have so many relationship problems and they're blaming women and we all know that is these men who are sleeping with each other this is so sickening
@@SpyderinagourdNo he used her! And then had the nerve to say “PACK YOUR SHII!” Like are you serious??? He WASTED her time!!!! And embarrassed the f out of her!!
That is exactly what happened to me unbeknownst to me, when I was young I married and had a child with a dl man. He used me as a cover up and treated me like sh*t. Verbally emotionally psychologically financially legally abusive. I divorced him 16 years ago and I ended up paying for everything for my daughter. He took was was supposed to be a beautiful experience and turned it into a nightmare. I can’t get those years back I will never experience motherhood again in this lifetime.
I’m so sorry dear, please try to think of the positive. Something new and better will come out of this trust. God makes no mistakes and you were meant to have your daughter. Try to open yourself to positive energy and ask God what he has in store for you now
@Teamhonesty These men take what it supposed to be one of the most sacred experiences of our lives and turn it into their ghetto Jerry springer drama… it’s beyond disgusting and you can’t understand if you haven’t been through it. Please just let her grieve without preaching and telling her to look on the bright side.
Men actually scare me when it comes to this I actually will not let a man that is obsessed with hanging out with his friends/ friend talk to me get my number nothing cuz I really can see dL men for who they are and they hate that 😊
When a grown man constantly calls another man his best friend that's a sign. A heterosexual man might say it once or child hood friend....not all day everyday...
I met a guy who has a roommate that he calls his brother. He even had a back story about their upbringing. Then it comes out that it’s not his brother but they have known each other for a long time. I don’t trust it!
@Malikmurad2010 Women have the right to be concerned about who they allow in their life. Stfu. If I’m talking to a man and something about him is off- I am going to evaluate the situation. Duh
@@irenehamilton2981 he has a certain glow to him, jealous of you, gets upset with you quick, never compliments you, only with you for your body, lips always shiny with blistex, hyper sexual, nose ring both sides especially, pants sag, skinny jeans, always at the gym .. his gym body is never for the women its always for men, always out with friends especially late night & never makes time for you, has one close friend he always argues with, into butt play, he pulls his pants up right after seggs, never wants to do missionary, doesn’t care if he pleases you, he has secret box of condoms, swing in his walk, his voice gets high, he can mimic a gay person “jokingly” , he always needs his hair done, wears a bonnet, he always gets mani pedis, he drinks & gets super sloppy, smokes too much, takes many selfies, many kids & not with the babymamas. has gay friend(s) men & women. list goes on.
I thought I was safe with my choice there. Muscled trucker, drinking beer and being the typical masculine working man. Always showing me off to his friends (now I know why...) One day I found out he visits a transgender dominatrix. Fully intact down there. As I was curious I googled this person and found advertisement videos. Full naked. Everything intact. I m still not over it.
Yes and they have a certain look. It's easy to spot them .. They men today most are that way bcause they raither a man do it to them . Knowing it definitely wrong
38:17 they don’t care about our feelings. It’s all about them & their feelings. How many times do they have to show us for you to finally stop supporting them?
You know what funny a lot of Jamaican, Dominican men, pastors, priest and Muslim men are on the DL. I have met so many of them.Jamaican men who call men names are DL and Dominican men goes both way. I can write book on this topic. “Also he who feels it knows it” meaning if you think or have a feeling he is it’s mostly he is.
I Definitely believe that, they try and pretend they are so straight. I believe this Jamaican who I used to date is into Men. Men would always sleep over at his home. He was always doing effeminate things. He once had a friend who was staring at me, and he told me to ignore him, while he reversed by car. Now that I think about it. I believe they were lovers.
Another thing: some straight men get off on the humiliation and pain of doing it the back way. There has been ladies who once they started to enjoy it he stopped wanting it. Be careful there are evil sadists that live amongst us!!
I heard that too. Some men love to hurt women during sex because they secretly hate women. Women who enjoy that type of kink is a turn off to these men though. Some men, truly are demons. This is why I do not care for their male loneliness epidemic.
Yes some women want to be married so bad that their willing to look over certain things that guarantee that man is gay.You God given natural instincts should be enough but they choose to make up some type of dumb excuse for their "Fairyhusband".
The sis at 27 minutes nailed it... he used the marriage as a cover, was jealous, was WAY too friendly with any homosexual man (pretending he was just being respectful) and attempted to sabotage my happiness and success... on top of it all.... a narcissist
Yup exactly he punished me and was often jealous of me. He was never happy but, he had this really feminine laugh that he tried to cover up. That laugh made me so uncomfortable.
One of the first signs is men who quietly resent women. Most of these would-be, otherwise leftover men are super covert ladies. Pay attention to the subtle signs and keep your intuition sensitive as ever.
So true. Queer men don't like the fact that in the end, women view them as leftovers. It's their own fault for not proving how theyre inherently better than straight men, but yet they do worse stuff than straight men.
I stopped talking to a guy that was literally obsessed with constant discussion about “the exit”. It was so cringe and a huge turn off. We never ended up going on an actual date because he couldn’t stop bringing it up and it actually freaked me out a little bit. So weird.
I dated a guy back in the day that tried to get me to let him go in my backside. I just couldn't pull myself to do it. He slowly started treating me bad. Looking back at it now I can see that he was definitely on the down low.. He just kept trying to talk me into it 😂. My little heart was so broken when he finally dumped me. OMG In hindsight I'm so glad he did! He was trying to worm his way back in around the time I met my husband. I don't think he ever caught on to me telling him that he grossed me out.
Thank you to the guy that left the DL man at the restaurant ❤ he’s a real one a lot of 🌈 men don’t care about women and won’t tell women their man is DL
Ladies please be super cool when you find out. Like ice. Shrug and say, I love you, you love me. If this is what you need, I'm ok with it. That dude will OFF you if you show your disgust and hurt/anger.
Mane, the audacity to minimize one’s feelings about it! If you didn’t gaf about me, my health, feeling, psych, none of that! What makes you think he deserves grace! Eff that! I will expose you (once I relocate 😂) and give you exactly what your sweet ssa deserves!!!! Just live in your truth!!! And not put women in your b.s!!!!
My ex man had all of the signs. He cheated constantly, had Craig’s list emails, and hung with his homeboy ALL the time. He always had a woman messaging him but never cared for any woman. But he took special care of his best friend who was a man. I thought it was odd sometimes but I didn’t judge. I lovingly asked if he was bi or gay (I’m openly bi) so I wasn’t upset asking this question. He choked me and said “don’t ever f*cking ask me that again.” I never got confirmation but the threesomes he seeked were always involving at least one man. Once I left I never turned back. I was always monogamous btw so he cheated the entire time. lol
Just a little FYI for women watching this video who may suspect their person is DL, now a days they are fishing for other men via Reddit ( once you change your settings to view NSFW, it’s a whole new world on Reddit)
Read the book "a billion wicked thoughts" it goes into the staggering amount of men who watch trans 🌽, it's in the high 80s. There was even scandal when 🌽 hub brought a ton of trans🌽 over the the main site because so many "straight" men were going to their trans sites, so they thought it made sense merge it all into one thing. When men made a fuss saying they were trying to turn them gay, 🌽hub released the site traffic analytics by sex and state, exposing a whole lot of them.😂
Gay/bi men aren’t the problem we don’t even deal with DL men. we been telling y’all about this men that not only target all you women but us openly gay/bi men too we are tired too!!
Many years ago when I worked in an HIV/STI clinic, my boss told me that I would need to learn to understand that there is a difference between sexual orientation and sexual practices. I soon came to understand what he meant. There are cultural perspectives that skew the way people see their own orientations. I met many men who identified as straight, but had sex with gay men. I even knew an effeminate gay man that swore that he was gay, but he loved having sex with women. I think people need to understand the actual words! Bi-SEXUAL/Homo-SEXUAL/Hetero-SEXUAL. Not bi-amorous/homoamorous/heteroamorous.
As you said ,SEXUAL! The rest is your make up mind or your shame! Polyamourous and shit are only excuse or denial of what you really are.😒 Your sexual orientation is what you really are.
This has been going on for a long time. Im almost 50 years old, and believe that every connection I had was with a man on the DL. It’s sad to know that this is still going on in 2024.
It’s so much of that going on. I stopped dating a guy because he asked to do the Exit thing. Yet, he got offended when asked if he was on the DL🤷🏽♀️ Ladies be careful and stop ignoring your gut & 🚩
It also gives zero pleasure to the woman and can be downright painful. You would have to have very low self-esteem as a woman to put yourself through that.
@@Chickadee777 not my thing & I’ve never tried it but I’ve actually heard the opposite from everyone I know that’s done it lol “hurts at first but it feels so good” 😂 won’t convince me, but that’s the opinions I’ve heard. Every one is different I guess. However I am a firm believer of that ONLY being an exit not an entrance 😭
Sis, him shutting out all of his apps and stuff should have been a major red flag. Obviously he was doing something that he did not want you to find out.
I was really struck by the guy describing getting caught 3 weeks into his marriage as "embarrassing." I have to imagine the wife would've described it more like "devastating." 😬 Super insensitive.
If your guy has been to prison for longer than 3 months, he's tested those waters 100%! This especially goes for the men that were cheaters and already. I come from a family that works in the legal field. My relatives that were/are correction officers said that most men get "blown", give hands, and even enter each other. Also, if they ever lose phone privileges 9 times out of 10 it is because of sexual acts.
I had a cousin who was dating a DL man….he would get very comfortable when he heard anyone speak about gay men or if there is music opposing it…he would ask her why she have to listen to those music.
Lol, same way a man will try to con a woman, he'll do the same to a man. All the stuff we put up with, I can't believe men want men, we want them by default 🤦🏾♀️
OMG, the way that first dude justified his behavior and the language he used is absolutely abhorrent. "The day I came out to her"? No dude, it's the day you broke her heart, the day she found out you were a cheater and a liar! Ugh, this man belongs in the garbage bin. Idk about the rest of the video, I couldn't stomach it.
I found out my ex was DL from discovering emails from his Craigslist account left opened on his laptop too. When confronted he still denied it and told me three different stories to explain himself. Looking back, the signs were there though.
I would advise women too, meet FAMILY first and foremost theres alwalys a family member who will "TELL IT" meet his friends. Go back in his relationship history put on your P.I Ladies please, these dudes are Crafty and they will use you as a Prop.......as long as you ignore your intution.
NO MATTA HOW MUCH U LET HIM N UR BACK DOOR HE STILL GONA DISIRE HOW IT FEELS WIT MEN..ITS NOT JUST DA BAC DOOR DAT DEY WANT ITS ALL OF DA NASTY STUFF DA MEN DO😂
Calm down girls. They do these "nasty" things. But their buddies aren't real women, they try hard to be us, but are only fake women. It's the forbidden fruit, the excitement to go against society. Let them marry each other and keep them far away from real women and you'll see how fast they'll come back to real women.
Yall take an ounce of truth for some men and blow it out of proportion, weird behavior. Just bc a man might want to do it there doesn't make him gay or interested in men. Hope you get better someday
Ladies, we're living in a sad state of affairs these days. Its very unfortunate but we have to be very careful and utilize your God given intuition and never second guess it. Buy the "Rose" and keep it movin.
"Why he spending so much time with his homeboy than you... because they f*cking" Same thing i suspected of this guy who I dated for a very short while 🚩✌🏾
@@s.s.ss.4848 And how could you possibly know what my version of people not being homophobic is? You don’t know me, and since you’re incorrect and are clearly projecting, I’ll explain. I don’t think women should be forced to date men they don’t want to date, and I think men should truly stop caring that women don’t want to date them and realize that their value as men does not depend on being with a woman. By not being homophobic I mean that people should stop demonizing, discriminating against, hating on, and demeaning people over their sexuality, that way people will be comfortable being honest and wouldn’t feel the need to go get a woman to hide behind.
@@LightSoldier222That's no excuse. It's 2024 and People are more open to homosexuality. Those Men lied because they are uncomfortable with who they are.
If this has never happend to you, please be thankful and save your judgment of the victims. The Heavenly father can humble you quickly and you, too, can become one/ experience the pain of having your and your childrens' lives completely shattered/ruined. I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
People are so incredibly selfish. I don't care if you have issues with yourself, purposely pulling someone else into your issues is unacceptable and unforgivable. I don't care what you went through, it doesn't excuse you putting someone else through it just bc you couldn't cope. If you're not into women don't marry them. Also ladies, alot of these men are not doing a good job covering up, you need better radar. If he's more feminine sounding or moving than you, that's your first clue 😉
Not necessarily, there are extremely masculine gay men. Unfortunately you really have to take your time getting to know someone and don’t trust people. Even then you still can’t be sure. It’s going to get more difficult for heterosexual women as men are more fluid and are exploring the range of there sexuality. A very slippery slope.
I knew I wasn’t crazy…I from SF bay and anytime I met a guy I would ask are they attracted to men? Have they ever had a gay encounter? I would watch their reaction. I started this at 18 and now at 52, I still ask!
After the Lord revealed himself to me while I was living in sin, fornication, ... he wanted me to turn away from my wicked ways. I thought I was too far gone, but I wasn't. What I learned is that God hears our prayers, and if he wants he can openly give you a sign that you specifically asked for, and he can in power speak to you through the scripture. Eventually I had the faith to ask God, if the person I was with is that the right person to marry? I was surprised to know, he answered me, he gave me a scripture to read in power, and a sign I asked to confirm, to help me get out of the relationship, and he gave me the sign. I was so surprised he clearly responded. The will of God is most important, it was not his will for me. I had already done so much outside his will so I was happy that I was even alive, to know being single was his will at that point in my life. There is a Bible story about how Issac servant found Issac's wife. Through prayer and confirmed by a sign. A mate is a very important decision, please consult with the Lord.
Alot of times this is the furthest from a womans mind when she likes a man and because she doesnt know the signs to looks for, most times we're oblivious to the signs right in our faces.
37:03 There is actually a term for women whose husbands decide to transition: Transwidows. They have very powerful stories and I encourage you to listen to them ❤❤ The term Transwidow comes from an old Anglo-Saxon term called Grasswidow. It was "given" to women whose husbands abandoned their homes, therefore leaving the wife to grieve someone still living. Instead of a tombstone to visit and place her heartache and troubles, she has a field of grass. ❤❤
This is one of many reasons why I teach my kids to ALWAYS trust their instincts, even if they don't understand why they feel the way they do. If they feel uncomfortable, they need to believe what their body tells them, then take action.
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I said that a long while back. The rainbow is God's promise the world will not be destroyed by water but fire next time. Stay woke people. It's sad that human beings symbolized it with gay. This is far far from God. Gay is abomination to God. There's bottomless pit waiting.
…broke the entirety of me- I literally have ptsd from it- how do you trust after this- im still healing- and I tried (silly as it sounds) forgiving him and even opted for going to counseling- he was the love of my life- but he just kept tapping back- when I say I am distraught, I am DISTRAUGHT- im so sorry you’ve all endured this- how do you trust after this- why are strictly straight men so hard to find- and i have no issue with that “community”; but as a straight woman, it is my right to want a straight man- why lie to me, marry me, create a child??!! KNOWING you’re into that- sh!t hurts 😢