Great progress. The concept reminds me of 8" British guns used on coastal defence several years ago. They were called disappearing cannons. When looking at shore line no guns were seen from passing ships. They came up only to fire.
i could see the weapons interfering with each other and the infra-red sensor too, someone will accidentally destroy their own equipment if it turns out like that, nice concept tho
Sure, during a really slow WWII style war these strategies would be great. But in the new world constant mobile presence is what matters. As far as periscopes go, since an unmanned device is the ONLY way to go, drones would serve better. Angled armor is the way to go, think Brewster's angle, maybe a lack of that is why drilling through modern side armor is so easy.
I honestly did not think the Mk4 could be improved upon. It would appear that the trophy anti-missile system has rendered the Merkava 4 virtually invulnerable. This is quite stunning if it is indeed factual.
Surprised they haven't gone with front and back MGs for urban fighting. Also seems like it would be vulnerable to 30-40mm fire when the gun is elevated.
There's not such a thing like a new Merkava, IDF it's working in new infantry tactics, and larger drones use, incluiding ones with bombs capability, including IR cameras at platoon level, and also better cordination wirh planes and larger dones for harder targets. It`s coded name means something like a "burial" or !"trash". "New" Merkava it's just a diversion technique.
Yeah. They all in service. The 1 and 2s are in second line units or storage now. the upgraded 3 BAZ is almost as good as a 4. They making another 300 4s at the mo.
Somehow there must be an ''optimum manned tank design'' It has to have Sloped armour (without the crew compartment that the Merkava has ) to get the smallest possible dimensions for a main battle tank. (that does NOT double as an APC)
This is quite old... Something like this was designed already back at 1990-1995 Crewless tanks are just fighting machines.. IT IS THE MAN IN THE TANK That WinsThe Battle!
a nice concept which would save more lives but it is now irrelevant as the IDF officially announced development of a new tank family named Rakiya which will consist of 30-ton tanks with a speed of 100 kmph , a hybrid engine , 2 men crew , special wheels (total 8) , a completely new gun (140mm or plasma are considered) , and an improved version of the existing Trophy 2 or something completely new . it was said that this tank family is supposed to work along with merkava 4Ms and maybe a merkava 5 will be created based on merkava 4 to replace it even after Rakiya tanks are produced .
Just think how many stages this module would have to go for reloading the main gun? The guy would have to return to 0 degree position, GET INSIDE the chasis get reloaded, GET OUTSIDE and then traverse to target.
upgrade the mark 5 Merkava with plasma turret, and change the main gun with railgun, so if an enemy explosive hits the main gun, the rounds will not explode because the ammo is just a steel.
The turret-less concept is back I see. This should be interesting. I wonder about the clearance of the MG on the side and the general layout of the weapons, since the Isreali army has always relied so heavily on .30 and .50 cal MGs on their tanks, including their unique mounting of .50s on the main gun. I guess I'm out of vogue here actually commenting on the military aspects of this rather than scriptures taken out of context. BTW, I am a strong supporter of Isreal, but the tech is the subject.
V.good design that will protect the hamar.tube but that will take long time to shoot at the target&&when the Pipe gun are out and ready to shoot will not be covered and that will be Weakness point ....... .... thanks
Перевод: необитаемый проект танка М-5. Автомат заряжания. Контролируемый отдел БоеКомплекта. Пушка многофункционал - как ракетная и миномётная. Пулемёт. Датчики обзора и наведения. Всё складывается внутрь корпуса, высовывается только при надобности. Низкий силуэт танка. Низкий вес, низкая стоимость.
הסיבה שהמקלע מוסתר בפנים הינה להנמכת הצללית. בעיקר בשלב תפיסת עמדות תצפית. לדעתי אין צורך בעוד מקלע, מכיון שכוח שריון נלחם בצורה מיטבת כמספר רב של כלים. זיהוי ואיפיון המטרות הוא החלק הבעיתי, ולעומתו השמדתם הינה פשוטה יותר בהיתחשב במספר הקנים בכוח. בכול אופן תודה רבה. שמחתי לשמוע את דעתך.
Ok, well I'll rebut your two main rebuttals... : ) 1) Autonomous fully automatic drones are much closer than you think, technically, I know, they are a specialty of mine. More succinctly then, soon even the ethics of war will change, ...then there will be NO resistance to them. 2) EM Counter measures can only be effective IF a remote link is used as an essential part of a drone's control. With autonomous systems, that will not be an issue.
how is the t-14 crazy? having the turret be unmanned and the crew inside an armored pod makes perfect sence you can have the gun poking out to shoot at stuff without putting the crew at risk but i am very sceptical about its promotional video mainly the ranges it fights at and that its APS can somehow destroy incoming APFSDS rounds
kris220b I mean the design is a huge change compare to what they already have, which may not be so user-friendly. For the protection, however, one Russian source reported that both the Afghanit APS and Malakhit ERA is vulnerable to autocanon rounds (it detonate on that round while Relikt doesn't), which maybe has to do too much APFSDS protection.
Kusakabe Shinhoto frankly i think its a massive improvement more focus on crew protection and armor instead of firepower and speed plus it also makes a good chassis for othe vehicles, such as the t-15 but how armored it actually is is rather hard to know, there is not alot of official info on it, and most of it is in russian
שלום @FireStorm81318 הסיבות למנוע בחזית הרק"ם: 1. שימור תצורת המרכבות והנמר לטובת שימש באותם רכיבי מזק"ם. 2. מנוע חזיתי שנפגע גורם לעצירת הכלי, תחמושת שנפגעת תגרום להשמדתו. 3. הסיבה לרוטציה בתחמושת היא שינוע הפגזים ע"י דפינת הקרקוב בין צמד מסועים שונים, לניצול החלל האחורי ברק"ם.
@oranlavy yea but with no turrent the tank is MUCH weaker as the gun is HIGHLY exposed to enemy fire when it out tho that a side I see MUCH potintal for a artiliory or ifv with this vehical but not a tank
that would be a good unmanned "recon" tank... interesting concept in my opinion. use then to provoke the enemy and lure then while the true attack is coming from another direction. that's 21st century war people...
There's a BIG difference there. In video games 'A.I.' isn't actually A.I., the algorithms used are merely pre-set routines designed to 'seem' smart. I do that all the time in Second Life, for instance, if I don't want to send data to my server, I may sense two points in space and if I hit one first, I tell the shell to 'lean' in that direction, to transfer more energy... if sent to my server, it could come back with both 'spin' and 'tumble', to simulate 'eddy current'. Would you? Point made.
I don't Amo wrack is in a really bad spot. One shot could easily make that thing go boom. And by the looks of it the turret doesn't even go all the way around putting war capabilities at a solid 50/50 chance of survival. Pointless to drive and pointless to control.
Hayden Timm I think that point of this tank is stealth and cover of all major parts from snipers etc until is ready to fire. Ammo rack is on usually space but this rear tubes are just for transfer ammo and expended cases(look carefully), also if u look carefully gun is mounted on some circular bed and it's possible it going 180 or 360' in any direction, maybe just video doesn't go in specifics. Other things which is more iportant: it can fire in TD mod, also no cupola mean more armor on side front and rear for cost of same waight, also mean if tanks is dig in, it can just raise gun and shot the crap out of you while it would be very hard to hit cannon, specailly if he is dig in, that probably mean you are on move. So i believe if it's possible to make gun good enough and for this kind of mounting and capable and strong mounting(and i think it is possible) then this kind of tank is future of armoured WF.
Stanislav Panić I just don't see this vehicle being a thing in reality. Maybe as a national defence weapon but it just seems impractical for almost anything. And a side note: If tanks with Oscillating turrets didn't work (T69, T54E1, T57, T71, Bat Chatillon, ect) Then why would this? even though it is a stealth vehicle it would be just to risky and expensive to put out into the field. You would be better off rigging the current Merkava mk. IV with remote control tech. It wouldn't be as pricey and would still carry the same idea of protecting soldiers from harm.
לפי מה שהבנתי מהסרטון על מנת לטעון נשק, הקנה צריך להיות במצב סגור/ מקופל... ופרט לבעיה זו הרעיון מעולה, אם תצליחו לחשוב על מערכת טעינה שלא תלויה במצב הקנה (סגור פתוח) זה יכול להיות פרוייקט מעולה... בהצלחה.!
"No turret to be shot at" means, ...no gun ready to fire. Again, "can't hit first with no target" means, ...can't shoot first either. Also, at 60 degree side angle, simple probability dictates that 66% of side collisions are deflected upwards,... same with RADAR.
large tank warfare are a thing of the past, armies need to prepare for quick and decisive skirmishes that tanks play a smaller role. air power and highly maneuverable ground troops in fast moving apc and fighting vehicles will take the lead and taking and holding territory.
guys..you have to understand hebrew to get the joke in the end of the movie lol. the acronym baiscally translates to the useless division with too much free time on their hands. אחלה סרט..לרגע באמת חשבתי שזה משהו אמרתי חח
מלכתחילה, אין לי המון מושג, אבל: אפילו כשאין אנשים בפנים, המנוע עדיין מקדימה? לא יהיה ייתרון לשים אותו מאחורה ואת החימוש מקדימה (פונה קדימה)? כך לא יהיה צורך ברוטציה לחימוש, וסביר שאם פגזים יעופו החוצה מפיצוץ, עדיף שיהיה גם בכיוון קדימה מלבד זאת, האם יש סיבה להסתיר בפנים את המקלע, והאם אחד יספיק? קראתי גם שבמלחמת יום כיפור המצרים ממש עלו על הטנקים שלנו פיזית, 2 מקלעים יכולים לפתור בעיה כזאת וכנראה גם לפגוע ביותר מטרות אני לא יודע עד כמה סביר שדגם כזה אכן ייבנה, אבל התצוגה יפה מאוד
@warriorofsteel01 thats what you all said about the first merkava israel has already made alot of automated stuff from boats to planes now tanks have probs?
the number of people that actually want to go to fight is getting lower not to talk about people who wanna be in a tank cuz we train so hard! so they invented this tank!
I'm afraid so. A robotic would be doable. But these unmanned gun turret/autoloaders have given nothing but trouble every time they've been tried. I've read that the Stryker Mobile Gun System has given nothing but trouble.
retractable tower, low profile, more security for the crew, less observability, therefore lighter faster, maneuverable, portable by air. less consumption and NEW WORD AND ERA IN MILITARY FIELD (if it will be realized of course)
i don't think the gun is suppose to stick-out for prolonged periods of time, only when it's about to fire and once it does, it goes back to its slot... honestly, i fine the design very creative, but then again, the real test is once it hits the battlefield...
Not bad but you can just rocket the camera and the tank would not know who to shoot or where. Also this thing is just a suicide tank because the ammo rack is so close to rear armour that if an enemy is able to penetrate it then well that's game over. Plus you also want to protect the cannon more and some additional armour that is angled at a 20 degree angle to deflect shots to increase its probability to survive.
not saying that this is a good tank concept ( its not ) but how is a retractable targeting system different from a fixed one?` they are both tiny and hard to hit at the ranges MBT's can fight at and the actual merkava has the ammo towards the back of the vehicle, and no merkava has ever detonated also 20 degrees? 45 at least
Это лишь модель на самом деле он будет как меркава 4:)) только без башни) ну и без экипажа:) На него нацепят ещё пару десятков тонн брони поставят пушку помощьнее защиту от всего и вся(как на меркаве 4) А так идея не плохая на поле боя его будет очень сложно заметить(из за отсутствия башни) и он станет САМЫЙ БЕЗОПАСНЫЙ ТАНК НА ЗЕМЛЕ(для людей конечно же)
@oranlavy Merkava is... And not because of its secret armor... Have You ever heard about the secret Israeli active protection on Mk.4? And, be sure, it works...
