You can ignore MQTT under your Lora setting in app. MQTT is not reliant on the internet. Its a Publish subscribe protocol that can be used in on or off grid application. It does requirer an MQTT broker runing on a local computer for off grid use. But it does not require internet to work. In a the case of a very basic meshtastic MQTT setup. An MQTT broker can be deployed on for example a fiber trunkline and bridge two meshtastic networks completely independent of the internet.
@@AzmialPrimeCould you maybe elaborate. I cant find anything tying Meshtastic to Nova radio systems. Side note MQTT is not “hosted”. multiple brokers could be hosted. I guess you could possibly say multiple topics are hosted by someone or some thing.
@@AzmialPrime I did finally find nova systems broker. At the moment only 3 nodes appear world wide on the nova broker. It is interesting to see alternatives to the official public meshtastic broker.
MQTT has it's place, for linking groups of nodes, eg separated by a hill. What is maybe needed is a MQTT for each region and a register, this would help people not flood the network.
Loads of useful uses for MQTT over a mesh, but it should be private channels only, bridging a public channel through the web is not good, and its currently too easy for new people to do it by accident
Awesome! I've got a Heltec v3 working with GPS and a BME280 sensor if you want the details. Looking forward to getting my mast up in the next 2 weeks and seeing who I can ping from PE22. I also have MQTT running to my local Home Assistant with no leaks to the Internet if you want details.
Ah so that was you on top of the Waseley Hill Sunday morning freezing your rear end off! Goes to show how much elevated relays are needed as I had most of what you picked up down in Bristol and Cheltenham relayed to my node down in the foothills. At least I know now how far I can maybe reach from up there, so thank you and nice to of made contact. Ray.
@drivingmemad7127 morning Ray, good to meet you on the mesh yesterday. The height certainly makes a big difference as im sure your aware, could do with a permanent node on the top of Waseley. Thanks for the chat mate.
@@lee2e0wyk60 I said we'll see, then I remembered the car park is pay and display and thought about walking it but you might of been gone by time I got there. 😅 Anyway might try the Lickey Hills as free parking and the layby off Egghill Lane aka City View. I have noticed someone in the NW of Birmingham seemingly testing using a drone, I did direct message them but got nothing back unfortunately.
Hi all. I am new to meshtastic and think the concept is a great idea. Unfortunately from my location I have not managed to contact anyone direct yet, hopefully this will change over the next few weeks. until then I have been using MQTT to keep an interest and get valuable advice and build up on contacts. I'm looking forward to the secret project.
I think Meshtastic is now starting to encounter what APRS went through in the 90s. Large meshes will probably have to implement similar “short packet life” like the APRS WIDE2-1, and filter MQTT-sourced packets from repeating/rebroadcasting.
@@JD_fpv It's really a holdover from the IoT genesis of all these LoRA devices. I think it'll be fin ein the long run, APRS-IS gives us a ton of fantastic functionality, but we'll have to implement some fairly strict routing standards.
Thanks for an interesting video. I ordered a Heltec VSP32 LoRa yesterday, so I a total novice. I am guessing that a node remains in a permanent place and constantly transmits (or retransmits?) a signal. Is the Maidenhead locator system used? My amateur call sign is M0BOB. Cheers.
How will this be enforced Sir? Would this be enforced via an elitist style of management similar to the regulations in Amateur Radio communications? What makes Ham nearly completely inaccessible in most countries are the strict rules, the complicated licencing requirements, and the elitist mindset that has plagued the Ham community since its inception. I looked into spending a few hundred dollars to take the courses, take the test and join. I was met with derision from a few of the local operators because I am unable to spend several thousands of dollars just to enter the hobby. It's been my experience so far that ham operators act like mafia members by preventing people that might otherwise be interested in joining the hobby. Please do not bring this culture and mindset to the Meshtastic community, because you are going to split it in two right off the bat. There will be the independent users that will do their own thing, and then there will be the Ham operators trying to tell everyone how they should be using the technology. Not a good start in my opinion.
I think MQTT has its place. For example my parents are in a different country so I’m helping them setup one with the idea we can use just the Meshtastic app to text. That being said, I wouldn’t want my connection (internet) to be used for the general mesh network.
totally agree with you on mqtt defeats the purpose of off grid and doesn't interest me in the slightest ,for me my next gaol is setting up a solar router just waiting on paradar helium antenna then will start looking for panels and watertight enclosures ,for me my main challenge is getting my nodes out there as I live in a dip and im having trouble getting my signal out there smt1 and smt2 are my router and mobile nodes if you ever see them pop up
what's that case? I have two tiny heltec pagers that look like radios which have room for GPS boards - very popular on printables - I tried to print a bigger case of the same design with a 18650 battery and its impossible to put all the boards inside - I dont see the need to jam kit into a box to save 20p of filament. MQTT - Everyone has their own interest in this, mine is that it's decentralized, encrypted messaging - yours is creating a local mesh. MQTT shouldn't be seen as a global chatroom, it's a way to link local mesh over a greater distance. I am in SE Asia where there is little interest, but I can use MQTT to contact my family in the UK (I could also send them an email too ;) - but shouldn't be discounted.
What is that Facebook group, and would I be able to join? Im in the US, and I would like to get a network setup here. I figure I could listen in to your group to see what works and doesnt. I currently have 3 T-beams, and 1 T-deck.
I think mqtt is a great thing, but i think it should be identified or have its own channel. Here in Oklahoma, there are just a few nodes, so mqtt is a great thing because there are just not many other nodes here. Gives someone new a great experience vs. just waiting in the ether for anything to happen and getting bored of the hobby vs. msg going out all the time and actually being able to use it for something and to test their own equipment.
