@@DavidSchneiderGuitar Reading through the comments, you get praised for the quality tips on ho0w to play this, but I didn't see anyone complimenting you on how tight and punchy and full your tone is, down to the lowest notes! What was the chain?
On the matter of getting alternate picking down, I love Paul Gilbert and his song "Technical Difficulties" the riff is alternating between "down up down - up down up - down up down - up down up" and just spending a lot of practice time to nail the inconvenient part of "up down up" helped me immensely to adapt to these kind of patterns. Keep practicing fellas, you'll nail them eventually!!
I just left this comment but since you coincidentally mentioned Paul Gilbert as well I'll leave it here: "I find it super easy to play with alternate picking, could day one of hearing it, but I think they play the closely grouped notes with alternate picking, then use doubled downstrokes to hit the isolated note and a third downstroke to begin the repetition. Alternate picking it was easy and natural to me because I'm a super, super strict Paul Gilbert-type alternate picker (even generally alternate pick what should be sweeps) and mostly play shred. I incredibly painfully learned to do it their way and it was a bitch. If you're telling me they actually alternate picked it all along I'm pretty pissed to be honest lol."
Man I learned that song when I was like 17 and since then I never had a problem with these kinds of licks ever again. It's a great tune for late-beginner/intermediate guitar players to lock in those alternate picking gallops. It's also just a damn good song. Also funny story, I once got a gig on craigslist with a friend to help pour wine and move bottles and stuff for this fancy mansion party in Marin, CA. To my amazement, Paul Gilbert was at this party. It seemed like I was the only person there who knew who he was, lol. It's not like instrumental guitar players are super well-known esp among those kinds of people. I never had the balls to approach him and say hi though. Regretted it ever since.
@@karwashblark7499 well, I think more and more people have gotten their eyes up for instrumental bands thanx to Polyphia. Never thought they'd hit so big as they have. PG is a legend! Been a fan since Racer X....😊
As a drummer videos such as these give me so much appreciation for metal guitarists. Frickin mind blowing to achieve these sounds with such controlled and precise playing.
It took me 3 months to cover Bleed on guitar. In the first month I learned the picking pattern and the different variations and sections of the song. The rest was just practice and building stamina to reach the end of the 7+ min song haha Its was insane but worth it! Great vid btw 🙌
I learned most of my hard mistakes earlier in life through Psycroptic covers. I went into it knowing it was advanced but he picks in such a way that is insane. Great video!
I've been on a try hard mode of this song for a whole week, this video comes up right in time Still having issues reaching full speed but it will come, thank for your work
That's actually great advise for bassists as well, there's very few videos that actually explain how to play fast metal stuff with a pick. Great job man!
It's totally the picking pattern for me. In my head it's easier to feel out the rhythm using down picking to accentuate certain notes. Gonna have to fight the awkwardness and just alternate pick. Played it at slow speed and the rhythm is right, but my brain just doesn't want to accept it and defaults to trying/failing at adding more down picks in there. lol
This video is fantastic, and was exactly what I was hoping for when I commented awhile back on a short about wanting instructional videos. In fact, it’s even better than I was thinking of because you went even further with backing tracks and specifics of hand placement. I’m really looking forward to more of these videos.
I've never seen anyone explain the motion of fast picking to stop scooping the strings this well. I always knew that you shouldn't scoop them, but I didn't know wtf to do other than that. Thank you, my forearms will hate you though ❤
i tried learning Bleed when i first got an 8 string but never understood when the rhythm changes happen in the riff. I think i just might have to subscribe to your Patreon!
That's awesome! I've been struggling with galloping riffs like these, and I'm sure these tips will help. Thanks for taking the time to put this together!
The question is, can you play this song after playing an hour of other Meshuggah songs? I cannot understand how these musicians can play at this level for days/months in a row without causing themselves severe repetitive strain injuries. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure these guys have had injuries in the past, but THEYRE STILL touring. It blows my mind.
When i learned to play guitar back in the 90’s, i learned the basics then went straight to learning Pantera songs. The techniques used for Bleed really reminds me of the techniques i learned while learning how to play Fucking Hostile.
This was a great informative video, not many people go into detail about wrist placement and the most efficient way to hold/move your hand. You're great at teaching. I would love to see a similar video about tremolo picking and hear your take. Cheers
If I subscribe to your Patreon, would you share the drum preset you're using along with the drum midi file? It sounds like Superior Drummer 3, but not 100% sure. I love the kick drum sound you have on this track, and I would also like to be able to pop the midi into Cubase so I can have more granular control over the BPM to build up the speed.
Wow it helped me so much, giving more insight than the others. Of course they're good but your way to teaching is more easier for beginner like me.. and i repeat your video over and over until finally it works, so i can write comment like this.. thank you!
Man, I've been having trouble on getting faster and more precise for a long time now. When you talked about rotational picking it just clicked in my head, you maybe solved it for me. I'll be trying that later, but had to thank you for this beforehand, great video!
thank you youtube for this recommendation. And thank you David for this video. For more than ten years I recognized that I played Bleed wrong. I didn't believe you first time and decided to open Meshuggah's lesson for check it. And i understood that this is true. Probably, I don't know what to do)) I remember how i spent hundreds hours for practice this song. Finally, I did it and after time forgot about it. Now I of cource can't play this song. What do you think, should I try this way and learn the song again or just forget about this?)
You didn't play it right either. The bend in the initial riff is actually taken fully to F# from E or, in the case of Meshuggah tuning which you are 1/2 step above, E flat to F. Good focus on the picking technique though. It's an odd pattern that isn't intuitive for most to play.
Unfortunately we can't find time to do these together anymore, but he is alive :) I can't really say how much it would be, we have an endorsment so its not too pricy... but without its definetly luxury.
@@DavidSchneiderGuitar Sad to read. I hope you will find the time to make videos together again! Regarding bridge change, I'm a little bit surprised, because the only Ibanez model with the evertune I've seen was a 6-string RGD model and if I'm not mistaken, you have here RG5328 which originally have some kind of an ordinary fixed bridge.
I’ve always struggled with galloping. I’ve focused a lot on sweeping and licks over the years wondering why my rhythm sucks. I’ll be sure to incorporate all of this to my playing from now on. Thanks!
My advice would be play as fast as you possibly can, to build the raw speed first. Don't aim for perfection. Then after you have built the speed, work on cleaning it up, because it'll probably be sloppy. 95% of metal songs won't have galloping over 230ish bpm, so if you can confidently do a couple of consecutive gallops at say 260-300, you'll be set for life.
The greatest mistake for me is, to first see (and hear) this as triplets, like with a normal thrash gallop riff. But this just does not work at that speed.
As a drummer, I’m trying to learn this song. It’s taking it’s sweet time to get up to speed,, sucks I’m an interstate truck driver and have a family so getting it right is going to take a loooootttttttttt longer
Do what you need to do what you want. Just do be sure to take some time for yourself where and when you need. Cant be a good provider, husband, friend or parent if youre burnt out on everything. Hope you get it down soon :)
It's crazy people don't find the parallels with the herta lmao it's "RL-R-L" so why would you not think "DU-D-U". Also another thing to think about is Meshuggah makes some crazy stuff, but a reliable thing to count on is they will always find a way to play it that makes the most sense. I.E. RL-R-L/DU-D-U since you are alternating and not making more work than necessary. A good example of this is "Clockworks", watch how Tomas *really* plays it. I've seen a lot of drum tabs get it SO wrong lmao Meshuggah is truly a being to behold in our time
Intersting... I'd always heard it as a 'Hetfield triplet' tight as fuck & on the one, but you're saying it's more like 'War Ensemble' , a kind of 'flowing over the beat' picking ? hmmm... cool
"playing from the arm is a large movement that is uncontrollable. Your body will try to create control by tensing up the forearm, which will heavily affect your endurance." This is actually not true at all. For songs that have a lot of tremolo/galloping faster than 210-220bpm, the majority of players aren't going to be able to play them without adding in arm movement. The arm muscles are larger, and stronger, therefore they actually have MORE endurance. With a bit of practice, you can make the motion very controlled. If you don't believe me, take a look at Mic Thompson from slipknot, who uses this motion in his rhythm playing. Or Kevin Frasard, who can continuously DP/gallop at 230bpm using the arm motion. Or an even more extreme case, MileHighShred on youtube can play 16th note tremolo at 300+ bpm using his arm. Personally, I could never get my wrist to go fast enough to play bleed, but after learning to use my arm, can play it just fine. Trying to use only your wrist to play bleed is good advice! But if that approach fails, there are other options.
Can you break down the song "Warfare" by Fit for An Autopsy? The opening riff I can do easy peasy, but the verses, where it's doubles across strings... ughhh. My alt picking is sucking with the double alts. Cheers!
"Fix #3" oh... wait that's how I've always picked since I picked up the guitar I didn't know that that wasn't the normal way of picking I'm embarrassed
When I practice this song, the main obstacle for me isn't the picking technique anymore, it's the rhythm. How do I play in beat? Like, what do I think about when playing this? The polyrhythm just messes me up, especially when I'm bending and playing other notes than just 0s.
I learned those triplets from Iced Earth back in 2007 with songs like "Dante's Inferno" and they really help with stuff like this. So I use d-u-d-d with emphasis on the last downstroke.
Watching People try to Impress me instore with this is puure fkn cringe, its not that people cant "play" it but holding your breath, looking hard you fingers, not been able to play with any form of Groove and making out like your "auditioning" a guitar make my Soul -1.
Except Marten plays Bleed with a downward pickslant, you play it with an upward pickslant, both work except downward pickslant creates more powerfull upstrokes wich help a lot on Bleed 😊
#3 fix prevents proper palm muting IMO(there is a light yet really prominent pm on the original record). But it is still a useful technique definitely worth checking
Incorrect, prolonged period of playing with the wrist will lead to injury. It might be able to get you speed but good for your wrists. On the contrary, twisting your arms and using your biceps is a better way as it is less prone to injury. Your wrists are not designed to move left and right. You can easily look it up online or talk to a physiotherapist.
Thanks, this actually dumbs it down enough enough for me to follow. One of the main reasons I got an 8-string was to try to learn Meshuggah. Technically, this song is simple: a lot of tremolo picking on one string but the speed and rhythms make it a real motherf*cker to try to learn. 😂
I feel like resting your palm on the body of the guitar while picking (the linear picking section) makes it harder to properly palm mute the strings, and therefore not get the correct sound. Listening to your playing it sounds like the mutes are correct on the eight string but nowhere to be found on the sixth. This might just be my phone speakers tho 🤷
It's pretty clear that the reason so many people struggle so much with this don't is they haven't actually learned how to play yet, and think this is a simple song to start on. All these chugging tips are things you should be learning along the way. Then it's just a matter of building up the superhuman endurance to keep up the whole song.
Back in the day when i was playing metal every day, i could play bleed both with alternate picking and with 2 downstrokes. Although, i do have to admit that playing it with the 2 downstrokes got my right hand too tired to play anything after that song.
