Having a quick look after seeing your video.. exploring the Mesop framework and I'm really impressed by its capabilities. It supports JWT for secure authentication, and state management is handled with middleware as far as I see. The framework comes with a decent library of design components, and the overall build of the project site reminds me a bit of Material UI, which I love. From what I gather, it also supports OAuth for user authentication and CORS for handling cross-origin requests. It seems like Mesop uses inline styling, and I assume there will be future layout components like Grid coming. It already has Box components, so you can get a lot done with that. I'm usually writing in FastAPI with React or Next.js frontends, but I really like the initiative behind Mesop. If it supports themes or similar design layouts, that’s fantastic! Overall, Mesop seems like a powerful and flexible tool for Python developers. Great job to the team behind it!
You know what!!! Mesop is actually suitable for complex web applications. But, django offers the same and it provides more features. So, why would someone actually learn mesop in place of django?
When combined with one many many many options it more than supplants Mesop. That being said Djangos amazing features can be overwhelming meaning Flask and python-webui are often better options for small projects.
It feels like this is an almagamated flavour of streamsync + plotly dash. UI widgets looks super basic. Hoping to see good progress on this, like nicegui
I'm wondering what these companies get for creating and releasing for free these kinds of tools for the population... Where is the trick, how do they benefit from that?
i tried it but sorry, the UI is not very good, on their demo page, when you type each letter , there is something that flashes at the top of the screen as if the UI itself is struggling on each letter. the UI/UX is badly done.
Google as it's own and powerful framework Angular , angular materials as reusable products. Why they go for another framework? Only for alternative for html and css?
Mesop is built on Angular and Angular Material and is targeting a different set of developers (e.g. Python developers / ML/AI backgrounds) compared to Angular.
@WillMesop add some way to use prebuilt components in react, svelte, etc. so functionality can be used, instead of waiting for community to start building components.
hey - creator of Mesop here; I'm curious what fastapi would offer over flask? I'm not very familiar with fastapi and just wanted to see what's missing with flask.
I didn't used it but I have read the doc, fast api is minimal. just like expressjs it only contains rest api development but can add many functionalities like in django using some packages@@WillMesop
@@WillMesop hey. Fastapi has lots of what is considered “modern” python, like types, openapi docs, improved unit testing, data validation, and probably many other things which I can not remember. Flask is great also, however starting a brand new project with it should weigh in some tradeoffs, depends how you see this thing scaling going forawrd. All is possible with flask also, just feels aged and more hacky
Really nice and thank you sharing knowledge, just have couple of questions here, can we build good looking apps? How about authentication and authorization? can we use this for production apps??
@@DataSciencewithHarshit I kind of finsihed the documentation, i did not see any out of the box solutions for authentication and authorization.. Are you saying we have to build on our own ?
If you're already familiar with JS/TS, pick any js-based framework and if there is any project or job that you're eyeing, pick accordingly. My preferences at the moment: Python - FastAPI JS - Next.js
Learn first Nextjs, After if you need full backend features, and you choose python; these are the steps: - Learn Flask, because it's very easy and the learning curve it's very down. - After flask you can choose between Django or fastApi. From flask to FastApi, it's taking maximum 1 week, because you are going to find many similar things (ex : you can also use sqlachemy for database, ...), but in fastApi you can find more types like typescript, and more asynchronous style. For big Application and all in one package, choose Django. From Flask to Django, you'll find many similar things, but already included in Django.
