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Metal Roofing with collated fasteners: Is it worth it?

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Is it worth having a metal roofing gun that utilizes collated fasteners? After using it for a job or two, I can immediately say yes...if you can find the fasteners for a reasonable price. When installing screws in a metal roof either DIY or for a profession, the worst part is bending over all the time, trying to juggle a handful of screws, and inevitably dropping the screws. Collated fasteners and Simpson Quik Drive are definitely the answer, but at the cost of about three time the screw cost. If I can find a source for screws that are economically reasonably for the time saved and effort it takes to install, I will definitely be using this more often.
The Quik Drive installs the screw with consistent depth every-time. Yes, I have had a couple issues here and there, but overall what tool doesn't have an issue.
amazon link where I bought it
Quik Drive BGP 300: goo.gl/6eTepf
Makita XSF05 Screwgun: goo.gl/EaQejH
Adapter: goo.gl/NmH6B7

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@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

My biggest hurdle with this tool is sourcing fasteners, but it is pretty awesome and glad it turned out good after buying it

@ryanchaffee7243 5 лет назад

Check nail gun depot. I know they sold the screws I needed for decks and subflooring. Also how are you keeping the screws in straight lines and making sure your hitting the 2x4 perlin? I know you said you don't punch or drill your roof steel so I'm just curious.

@DJAZAlwayz 5 лет назад

@@ryanchaffee7243 im thinkin penciled reference marks . depending on the gauge of steel u could even feel in under her feel with a bit of focus and sharp eyeballs lol

@DJAZAlwayz 5 лет назад

it would be to perfect of a world to have an automatic hopper on that sucker. should do a comparison with 100 screw count live time vs between u and gregger

@skliros9235 5 лет назад

And I bet the price of them fasteners will be lots higher.

@cameronloggenberg2867 5 лет назад

You can reload the strips. Very Time consuming but it works.

@Ace-yf3xf 5 лет назад

Every commercial roofer needs this setup!

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

agree for sure..

@jacksmith4375 3 года назад

I’m a roof tiler in England I’ve never done sheet metal roof but I want one

@Kail174ru Год назад

It’s great! My shed has been completed and it turned out nice looking and sturdy and it is way better than the sheds that many of my neighbors had put up. Of course, I'm pleased with the outcome and this Ryan’s ru-vid.comUgkxGZedDTcDfgD7fG_uU4esfx_EgxzlY2_1 Plans was extremely useful to me as a guide.

@hotrodhog2170 5 лет назад

I have the one for screwing down subfloors for houses. I never let go of the trigger, keep on truckin!

@chuckharrison6976 5 лет назад

Just had a Morton pole barn built. They used this style ( not sure which model they used ) to secure the roof, they only install the screws on the Hi Rib section. Done a great job ! You will enjoy it !!! I enjoy your channel and your craftsmanship !!

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

yes mortons guns are made for them by the same company.

@nicko198718 5 лет назад

Really love these random tool videos because it's the kind of thing where sometimes you don't want to risk the investment if you're not gonna use the tool that much, and I always found getting a tradies real world opinion is better then a store sale person. Plus I'm a Wall and Floor Tiler so I don't need a wide range of tools but love tools.

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

heck yeah man i love tools too

@cameronloggenberg2867 5 лет назад

I purchased a collared drywall setup last year and wish I had done it 10 years earlier. Literally saves your fingers and time

@workisfun...2438 5 лет назад

I do remodeling, so not hanging rock daily, but I've had one for years and have tried to convince my buddies that do only rock to trim em out... They don't know what they are missing.

@moose1164 5 лет назад

I got one as well. I love mine. I use mine for roofing and decking. Only dislikes about is the adjustability for people over 6 foot (sucks being bent over in that position for hours), screw count it can hold and type of screws, inability to toenail, and the occasional "hang ups" (happens to me about once in 25 screws).

@gungadinn 5 лет назад

My local lumber yard demo’d this attachment during one of their vendor days a couple of years back. We’re collectively aren’t getting younger. Between knees and ankles there aren’t many older tradesmen that don’t suffer from arthritis. Anything that keeps employees on the job are well worth the expense. My interest was more so for decking, but I saw the benefits of collated fasteners and purchased a couple of guns. Best money for a return on investment. You’re not going to find anyone installing drywall with a screw gun and a bucket of #10 screws.

@OperaBass3 5 лет назад

I used to make architectural fittings and doo-dads. I recall working on a house that had about a acre of ipe decking to fasten. The contractor had two of those going. One to predrill and counter bore for the plug and another following driving the screws. Everything geared to stand-up work. They did a beautiful job, straight and consistent. The array was almost exact. The deck was 14 or 16 ft wide and wrapped 2/3 around a pretty big house. 20K screws anyway. Three guys, couple three days counting all the black ABS(?) plugs. I'm a fan of collated bulk screw fastening.

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

It definitely saves time and effort

@ohhpaul7364 5 лет назад

Used that for screwing down Durock flooring in a house that had 800 sq. feet of tile floor. Worked like a champ. Fastenal had the screws, unsure if they exist where you are; sometimes they are right in line with the price and others a bit expensive.

@jeremiahcoles2378 4 года назад

This is awesome. Thank you for the close up look at how the fasteners sit when they are installed.

@douglasthompson2740 5 лет назад

I have used similar guns for subfloor installs and they really save your back!! Take care. Doug

@mechanicmike1236 5 лет назад

You do amazing work, I really like watching your buildings go up!! thanks for sharing

@amoscardoza5253 5 лет назад

I've been using a Senco screw drive tool for a couple of years now and it works great. Does make it easier.

@craigmackinnon616 5 лет назад

Cormack Builders, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia. We do a ton of steel. Love to have the attachment for the hex head screws. We have the DeWalt for doing deck screws and subfloors, love to have that one also. Love what you guys do.

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

once you give it a go for a little bit you get used to it and really see the advantage

@djbrice6002 5 лет назад

Would like to see reviews on what you guys are using for fall saftey...

@mrhortimer1 5 лет назад

I second that. Jobsite safety shouldn't be underestimated, especially falls. But it looks like a retractable steel cable fastened to the purlins...

@elijahhochstetler2272 5 лет назад

I’ll third it!

@jerryhubbard4461 5 лет назад

it is a cable re-track system. The one we used during bridge work would cable out about 20 feet. It works like a seat belt. it runs out as you move and spring pulls it back as you get closer to the reel. if you fall or slip suddenly, it has an internal clutch and stops the cable as a seat belt would do. It works great but wearing it all day will get to you. It has a constant pull.

@loosecannon124 5 лет назад

falltech retractable

@parkerfetters7588 5 лет назад

We use those collated screw guns for subfloor as well. They have more uses than one might think, but it does take some skill for sure.

@lukelittleton7514 5 лет назад

I saw your Instagram story about this, this is awesome! Keep up the good work!!

@MrB82901 5 лет назад

I use a quick drive for sub floor sheathing, dry wall. I found that if you keep the drill spinning at a high rate of speed before and during and after fastener installation , it will set the fastener perfectly. If it's adjusted correctly. When your done with a sub floor , you look behind you and you see all the yellow strips. Kinda cool if I say so my self.. Thanks for all your excellent videos.

@damonalagich4524 2 года назад

I think thats what they are designed for chipboard/ply floor or wall sheets or for decking screws- for drywall/plaster board there are better all in one drivers, like the cordless makita drywall driver. for 12/14 type hex heads over 2" it would be a waste of time. IMHO

@gojoe36 5 лет назад

Time is money..the faster, more precise you can do a job...the better off you are and the more money you will make.

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

agree

@deeeeeeps 3 года назад

I used this system for flooring and sheetrock a lot. The trick is to make sure you treat the strips with TLC once the plastic or screws get bent..it's over.. You can't put them in your puch. Also letting the tool snap back helps don't lift it slowly once done screwing.

@rwc2504 5 лет назад

I've been waiting to see this tool in action. Thanks for posting.

@80zbabyz 5 лет назад

Great tool Kyle . Tool like that would be great for older men in the trades and younger guys like me that got back issues. But I believe its efficient for everyone who does those type of roofs ,etc.

@ZipKickGo 5 лет назад

Works amazing for decking. I lay out a bunch of those clips and when I'm empty I'm standing next to a new one AND no bending over all day!

@davideastman7083 5 лет назад

I have a Quick Driver screw gun but I'm a deck builder and I've had it for over 10 years never had any problems with it.

@MS-_-4891 2 года назад

That's what I need but pretty sure we don't have it yet in Australia. It's NOT a novelty. It gets to 45C on rooftops here and anything that speeds things up, is worth the spend. The other major plus I can see is, apart from easy on your back, is the guided screwing setup. On a high pitched roof, or dewy, rainy days, it can get frustrating trying to get 4" screws to go in straight and not collapse on you repeatedly.

@vaeagle1 5 лет назад

i have a senco floor gun so you can stand up while working similar to that for plywood and decking applications and it will skip screws like that too if your not careful with precision pressure on the material. saves the back and knees.

@LewisRenovation 5 лет назад

I have the same unit but for drywall and decking screws. Works great for deck screws but jams or cams out way too much for drywall.

@daved7024 5 лет назад

That is a must have screw gun for installing steel roofs Price sounds decent too. Screw it baby! 😃 Another great video.

@SmeekPeek 5 лет назад

Usually when it messes up its either the length between the screw and the end point of the Quik Drive thats not adjusted correctly or sometimes the screwes themselfs are bad. There is differens in the plastics between the screwes, some are harder and some are softer and it's basically trial and error because you can't really see the difference. Also spray on some silicone on the feeder. This will help it glide better.

@retireddriver16 5 лет назад

Nice back saver and that makes it money well spent good job 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

@roldac 5 лет назад

Looks like a back saver. Worth the money for sure.

@gregorymacneil2836 5 лет назад

I have one of the Senco screw guns (drywall and sheathing). We found that you have to pick the tool off the surface quickly if the screw is to advance flawlessly....probably the same mechanism as yours.

@donsdiys1140 5 лет назад

Sweet tool. I know that I would have one if I did a lot of roofing. Thanks for the video

@carlosacostaj 2 года назад

This would be amazing for my roofing job

@bowhunting1013 5 лет назад

Looks like a time saver to me

@zacheiriksson 5 лет назад

Those must be the new under armor steel toe sneakers. Nice

@georgecoffman377 5 лет назад

Keep the drill motor running all the time . Only press down to install.

@gunsgalore15 5 лет назад

This drill if you hold the trigger down it only starts when you press so he has the trigger locked already

@brax0789 5 лет назад

Not on the battery powered

@matthewdarcy5544 5 лет назад

That thing is awesome. I'll have to see if I can get one in Australia.

@ethankirkham7664 5 лет назад

Are you guys going to Louisville Kentucky in March for the NFBA building of the year awards? The company I work for won in one of the categories and the whole crew is going down there, just wondering if you'd be there because that would be so cool to see you and talk about the pole barn life haha

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

Yes we are

@ethankirkham7664 5 лет назад

@@RRBuildings Awsome man I'll look forward to seeing you there! I'm with Kirkham Building System from central Ohio

@johnfithian-franks8276 5 лет назад

Hi when the gun misfired it looked to me as if you lent forward just a bit, I watch it again and it still looked the same, I am only mentioning this so you can watch that part of the video and possibly find a solution to the misfire problem

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

Thanks

@Poutapu24 5 лет назад

Try pulling the trigger about 2 or 3 seconds before pushing down too, need to have the motor at full speed

@workisfun...2438 5 лет назад

I think it would be worth it in the back all day, unless it became somewhat unreliable. I know I have some tools that sit on the shelf because even though they work great, it's only they work great part of the time and not worth the hassle.

@chipsammich2078 5 лет назад

Why screw in flats vs Ribs? I'm having triple disc fusion the 18th of next month my bending over all day "screwing" is over. I will definitely be buying this.

@Joshua79C 5 лет назад

Per manufacturer recommendation, IMO it makes more sense as it does not lead to bowing of the valley or leaving a big gap in the screw like screwing a rib does on the underside leading to premature rusting and and an easier way for wind to pick up and rip out sheets in high winds such as in wind storms or worse.

@macraeolinger 2 года назад

This makes me happy....

@adrianmurguia95 5 лет назад

That a back saver right there

@marcofonseca9771 Год назад

Awesome device.

@damonalagich4524 2 года назад

wow, you guys put screws in the valleys of the metal sheet profile! every profile with humps and valleys everywhere else in the world they fix thru the hump on the profile so water ingress is less of a risk. unless its vertical/plumb wall sheets.

@noconz0727 5 лет назад

We use a QuickDrive for screwing all our decks. Works great but it's corded. Would like to switch to cordless.

@dokmanian 5 лет назад

i use something like that for decks Dewalt makes one for most part i love it like you said now and then it misses a screw

@richardf9137 5 лет назад

Looks like a great system, and drives them to perfection.

@mr.knight4110 5 лет назад

I love your videos you such honest guy

@sr-qk4md 5 лет назад

very helpful thanks for the video. i guess the question is, are you going to use it or go back to you impact driver? and are you going to outfit your crew with them.

@shawncockrell6007 5 лет назад

How is it when going for a pre punched hole...….? Looks too bulky to get pin point placement, such as when you pre punch a bunch of panels like you do. Which is probably fine on a roof where laser straight screw runs are not as critical.

@brentrowan2794 5 лет назад

Shawn Cockrell that was my question as well

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

i don't prepunch roof

@shawncockrell6007 5 лет назад

@@RRBuildings I have used the old ones from 20 years ago for deck screws and the biggest advantage we found was not grinding the workers down with endless bending over......now that I am almost 50, this is more important than ever. I do not want to hobble a new generation of kids with repetitive motion injuries. Awesome job as always !

@kiwibird8441 5 лет назад

@@shawncockrell6007 good on you man smart boss right here, I gave up contracting medically retired at age 30 did my back in. Never thought it'd happen to me

@wildcatkhosro 5 лет назад

awesome, its windy, love your videos man

@dpd16790 5 лет назад

i have one for wood decks.. i want that one now... lol

@williamharrison8646 4 года назад

The Enkapsulator on RU-vid is a product you should be demonstrating.

@marumoepapa5078 5 лет назад

The Makita is a good tool, doesn't it? 🛠 Kyle also makes work easier!

@billy19461 5 лет назад

That would be great, but I never could go in a straight line.

@dustinhunt7219 5 месяцев назад

I own a deck building construction business and oftenly I install a metal roof over the decks I build. Since the beginning I have used hand driven metal to wood screws with a sealing rubber washer. I am ready to take the steps to get away from this practice. I want easier/more time efficient. What are the part numbers of everything I need to make this go from a pipe dream to having it in my hands ASAP. Thanks!

@superspeeder 5 лет назад

Hey Kyle, does the Quick Drive attachment still allow the Makita screwgun to function in it's automatic push-drive mode where you just leave the trigger locked and it starts automatically as you press down? Thanks, and great videos!

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

For sure does

@darrannewman7113 5 лет назад

the kit looks and works well in the (on the roof) field, can the strips be re-used again , you could get the guys to re-load them up during lunch break lol.

@robnoble626 5 лет назад

Back saver!

@lancekuykendall3017 5 лет назад

Neat tool for floor decking and maybe flatter roofs but too much reloading. And steep roofs would not be the target for this tool

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

Agree anything over a 4/12 would be tough

@johnhunter273 5 лет назад

Nice review!How about a vijao on safety gear?

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

Probably worthy of a video as well

@James....... 5 лет назад

Looks like a back-saver

@irietropicals4255 5 лет назад

I just got a new shingle roof put on in September. Last week a 15minute hail storm wrecked my neighborhood. Adjuster came out and said my shingles are damaged. Could I just put standing seam metal over shingles? All my decking is in good shape. I appreciate any help fellas! Thanks.

@michaelcorleone6665 5 лет назад

Love your videos 👍

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

thanks bro

@markloncarevic3279 5 лет назад

In Australia we put the screws on the top so that if the seal is broken water runs off rather than leaks in more.. is it that this roof is covered under that you guys put the screw on the bottom part of the sheet? We don’t put ply under ours here so that may be the difference

@Joshua79C 5 лет назад

Depends on profile and manufacturer recommendation.

@robertunversaw 5 лет назад

I just talked to Simpson Strong Tie this morning and they've discontinued the fasteners for this product. Go figure!!!

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

Go figure

@robertunversaw 5 лет назад

@@RRBuildingsplease find us another one!!!!

@scrappynotcrappy 3 года назад

I called Simpson Tie this morning and can confirm that they still haven't brought back the screw w/neoprene washer...soooooo disappointed

@robertunversaw 3 года назад

@@scrappynotcrappy I've since moved over entirely to double lock standing seam.

@TheSchulz2380 4 месяца назад

Question 30 year old metal roof. Looks great but screws are pulling out. Everywhere who is best to call for a job like this. Too slanted for myself to do?

@lukejamieson4781 5 лет назад

why do you screw on the valley?surely you don't want your fixing to be exposed to water ?in aus/nz we always screw the high point, for traditional roofing sheets. or if you have the sheet your using we have a undermount clip system. do you have a crazy wind loading on that roof?

@kiwibird8441 5 лет назад

Wind and snow

@bretlambky 5 лет назад

Very cool, I did mine the old fashion way...lol You got 🏀🏀’s I was always nervous on walking on a sheet metal roof. I used the screws to walk on, provides a little traction.

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

no issues with good shoes and new roof ever

@Rudevette 5 лет назад

Cougar paws boots are great for walking on a roof

@bretlambky 5 лет назад

Rudevette, thanks for the info. I am sure there is better product on the market today than when I built my shop. It was approx fifteen years ago when I built my shop. Plus doing it as a hobby vs a professional builder you get exposed to better technology like the cougar paw shoes. Being a big guy, 270# gravity can work against you...lol. Plus I had basic Nike footwear as well, So strike two. I just did things to work around any potential accidents. If I ever build another shop I will look into the cougar paw shoes. Thanks again!

@bobbynabi415 5 лет назад

Great video thanks....I deal with pre engineered builders, metal building and sometime our roof purlins or girders range from 12 ga -16ga Far as i know makita and DeWalt are the only companies that make these types of drills cordless at 2000 - 2500..will they go through 12 ga steel purlin plus the roof or wall sheet? The purlins/girts also lap each other over a beam or colums therefore there's 2 purlins/girt to fasten through...impact drivers work but there to fast and sometimes overtighten. Which brand do you perfer...Thanks.

@OCReventsAndbuilds Год назад

Y’all still like these ? Looking in to getting some of the quick drive attachments

@AceMon2005 5 лет назад

2:20 Me too sir. Me too.

@noconz0727 5 лет назад

I'm curious how you know where to put the screw to hit your perlins

@franciscomarquez7693 3 года назад

He walks and stop between the perlins, it marks itself

@tseringla 5 лет назад

hello can tell me where to buy this screws??

@aaronwidder9624 5 лет назад

A lil bit off subject, but what do u think of the Milwaukee surge impact? Do you like those oil hydraulic ran impacts?

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

Yes great guns... not for continued heavy use as it thins out the oil and weakens the drills torque

@junglejim5549 4 года назад

Great paperweight.........Simpson no longer supports thiis product with the collated screws. I have 4 units for sale cheap......lol.

@RRBuildings 4 года назад

Stinks doesn’t it

@frankhagar4651 5 лет назад

Interested in why you put the screws in the flats and not the high rib, thank you

@Joshua79C 5 лет назад

Manufacturer recommended per profile.

@gadgetmantwincities 5 лет назад

I want to know what are your favorite work pants. I use Duluth trading company ultimate cargo and as of late the performance has dropped. Looking for a new fav work pant!

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

Watch previous video on the channel about cold weather gear

@charlesreeder2594 5 лет назад

I like it!

@seanmartin1371 10 месяцев назад

Do you wear special foot wear when doing the metal roofing?

@FredMcIntyre 5 лет назад

Cool! 👍🏻👊🏻

@MrMhilliker 5 лет назад

This is perfect for that middle aged part time employee with back problems.

@TheKnuckleDragger 5 лет назад

Or to prevent that young, full time employee from becoming the middle aged, part time employee with back problems.

@kiwibird8441 5 лет назад

@@TheKnuckleDragger I'm with you on that, we were young and healthy once too with the same attitude

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

Haha

@kipcarroll486 5 лет назад

Kyle, do you ever use the screws on the roof that has the head kind of "umbrella" , if you will, over the washer ? I cant remember what you call them but I'm told they ensure a good seal since the sun can't get to the washer.

@jmb2889 5 лет назад

zag is the brand name

@kipcarroll486 5 лет назад

I think these are the screws. www.fastenersplus.com/ZXL-Woodbinder-Metal-Roofing-Screw-Pkg-250?quantity=1&color=Galvanized&length=1-dash-1-slash-2-inch&gclid=Cj0KCQiA4aXiBRCRARIsAMBZGz-nIMgLLDYBGDdcjU8qh4Nqf7FxccKfZmAyiIem5MWaBJXXoiaunjMaAu65EALw_wcB

@tristanpatterson3843 5 лет назад

Do you mean the ones for fibreglass/translucent roofing?

@kipcarroll486 5 лет назад

@@tristanpatterson3843 I guess they could be used there, too. But the ones I saw were for metal roofs. And they are exactly like the ones in the link I posted.

@sealtite87 5 лет назад

ZAC screws

@valleytractorservices9310 5 лет назад

I don't see any guide lines on the sheets. How are you able to keep installing screws in a straight line?

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

I go from one sheet to the next....we mark every purlin on every shee

@rareone100 3 года назад

Where is the camera guy tied off to?

@marcofonseca2519 3 года назад

Awesome

@ivtec845 5 лет назад

What lanyard are you using and how long is the total length

@webvovan34 5 лет назад

I ove Makita😊

@davidbirmingham6462 5 лет назад

They are good tools but you end up placing the heads alot but Simpson will work with you if you buy alot from them.

@Joshua79C 5 лет назад

*a lot, never heard of this alot

@jesterraj 4 года назад

Question here can i use a metal to metal roofing screw into wood as well

@jmert_5859 5 лет назад

i noticed you lap screw the roof panels, do you lap screw the side-wall panels as well?

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

I just roof

@pedrovargas7603 5 лет назад

What is the name of the thing that is the metal line at 3:24 (color blue)????

@sleim754 5 лет назад

I did my personal shop roof in 2017. Is is possible that screws can back themselves out from heating /cooling /vibrations? I swear that there are one or two that are too high every time I get on the roof.

@RRBuildings 5 лет назад

I have heard of that... never saw it on one of our sheds but people have talked about it

@Joshua79C 5 лет назад

Eaily fixed by getting slightly longer screws, or use some Gorilla wood to steel glue (into the hole) and refasten.

@141poolplayer 5 лет назад

At 2:20 what are you talking about?

@kiwibird8441 5 лет назад

Talking about your moms huehuehue

@chujungcathychen Год назад

does the Quik Drive installs with screw have rubber washer on it ? I'm trying to find one that has rubber washer on it and can be used on Makita screwgun plus quik drive. Would appreciate it very much if someone can tell me. Thank you !