I'm not sure it necessary falls on the designers. When it came out I think they were still playing catch-up to the manga, and so had to work around that, and Kazuki Takahashi wasn't exactly writing with the intent of designing cards for actual play at that point. Granted, I still feel like they could have done more (honestly, just giving it the Metalmorph effect wouldn't have been enough to make it good, but it would have at least not really punished you for making it), but I can see why they felt like they couldn't.
rare metalmorph being limited to machine monsters seems so weird since the lore of the original metalmorph seems to be it converts organic creatures to metal counterparts, so it feels weird for it to only be applicable to creatures that are already metal
Maybe their intention was not to make “Rare-Metalmorph”, but “Rare metal-morph”, instead. Meaning, the card convert your machine monsters into a more refined alloy. Like, transforming iron into platinum (?)
@@douglanmar i suppose? though if that was the intent probobly should have shown it in the card art, hell maybe have the original metalmorph being halfway converted to gold or something
Yeah, plus the 500 didn't make sense, as it should have been 400 to match the show and Metalzoa/REBMD. 400-500 was always extremely weak, even in SDY format there was Reinforcements and Sword of Dark Destruction. And MRL introduced Axe of Despair, and Nuzzler/Horn. 500 ATK is basically nothing, which means the secondary effects better be good, so what the hell is up with this failure of a card? Only once negate a targeting effect??? Only once? Why? Why only on Machines? How is it so much worse than the original without even being slightly accurate to the show? Ah, yes even the artwork looks like primitive 3D crap. Terminator 2 came on out 1992 and it looks 10,000x better.
I find it hilarious that these special summon from the deck effects allow you to just randomly pick up your deck and start looking through it without telling your opponent what you're doing.
You’re supposed to shuffle afterwards. That’s how most tcg work when you use any effect that searched your deck. Yugioh, Magic the Gathering, Pokemon, they all require by rule for you to shuffle your deck. It’s such an understanding that later generations of all three of these tcg stopped printing cards with deck searching functions that specify “then shuffle your deck afterwards.” Because it’s a base rule.
@@erickchristensen746 while true for the others, its not true for mtg. they specifically mention to shuffle the deck even in current cards because mtg is different. in that game, you literally do what the card says. there are no hidden rules, or implying anything in mtg. If the card says search your deck for this swamp creature, but doesnt specify to shuffle, then you aint gonna shuffle. But there arent many cards like that in MTG, because, thats stupid. The most you can get away with in all of these tcg's are things that let you search, say, the top 3 cards in your deck, order them anyway you like, and place them back on top. Each one of these games has a card or cards like that, and thats the only instance i can think of where you are allowed to search without reshuffling in anything besides mtg.
This video is full of misinformation and clearly didn't do enough research. In the 2014 and 2015 Elementary school meta Metalmorph was one of the most defining cards in its era. And while not as strong in the 2016 to 2018 Church camp meta it was still among the strongest cards in the Tier 0 "mash of vaguely related dragon cards" deck.
It definitely saw use back in the day, but in the evolved elementary school format - the "Let's try to play that one card game we liked from back in the day using the cards we kept" meta - Metalmorph sees a lot less play due to the discovery of new rulings where it turns out you *can't* equip it to monsters straight from the hand.
Considering how iconic in that duel Metalmorph was, I'm kinda curious that they never got a support like Magic Cylinder or Torrential Tribute or at least a Critias Fusion.
Ok, let me run a potential MetalMorph retrain by you lot: _Living MetalMorph_ Normal Trap Card _Target 1 face-up monster on the field; equip this card to that target. It gains 500 ATK/DEF, and is also treated as a Machine monster. If it battles, it gains ATK/DEF equal to half the ATK of the monster it is battling, during damage calculation only. If the monster this card is equipped to leaves the field, you can equip this card to another monster on the field, OR you can special summon it as a normal monster ( Machine/ EARTH/ Level 1/ ATK 500/ DEF 500). (This card is also still a Trap.)_
A New Critias Monster would be Sick, Kaiba has a lot of traps they can still use, with maybe a Fusion monster that can Return the "Materials" to deck to do something, or a truly monster like Timeaus was for DM.
@@adraxer1365 You know, a big boost to the original Legendary Dragon spell cards for a minimum amount of effort would be to have made them quick play spells.
@@adraxer1365 I played for a short time Lair of Darkness with Critias as a fun option, a personal favorite of the Legendary Dragons especially because they can bring old school traps to the game viable option, specially considering Critias targets are all normal traps.
I remember one episode in the Yu-Gi-Oh GX anime, one opponent found a niche use for Metalzoa, where as soon as they brought it out, they used Call of the Haunted or something to bring out the original Zoa, and had two big beaters on the field.
What's even funnier about that episode. The guy who used it Czar. If he attacked with Metalzoa instead of Zoa, he would have won as Chazz would be unable to do anything.
I can absolutely see "special summon from the deck" as a mechanic coming back at some point, if for nothing else than novelty's sake, the same way they brought back other bad mechanics (namely Unions and Rituals) in ways that made them have meta relevancy.
Could further mix it with a Maxx C like effect and an Exodia like effect. The archetype could special summon from your deck to the field when the opponent special summons from anywhere and have an automatic effect when enough of them are on the field.
Special summon from.the deck is not a bad mechanic at all, it is, in fact, incredibly busted. Imagine a cyber dragon that summon itself from the hand or deck and has no other effect. Chance are a lot of deck would run it.
@@noukan42 I think they can put restrictions on them to not break the game entirely, like: You can only SS once this way, you cannot special summon other tha Cyber dragons the turn you SS this card, or other way to Drawback like you have to shuffle 2 cards or monsters from your hand to SS from the deck, in this ways is still a -1 but you can also reset your garnets.
There is a reason for new monsters that SS themselves from the main to exist in the main deck: Extra Deck slots are becoming increasingly more valuable, to the point some decks have to choose what to keep and what to leave. It makes sense that the evolution for the extra deck summoning mechanic would be to summon from the deck instead, as you would have much more space for those and the option to run alongside your extra.
Problem is the limits, as these cards can only be special summoned "from the deck," if you have the only card like that in your hand, then it's useless unless you have a card to put it back in your deck then it's okay, otherwise, nah!
@@patrickzalatoris3206 I mean you can see the Konami fixing that oversight in that later prints all add the hand a valid position to SS from, not only the deck. Being able to summon a big monster from the deck or hand would probably be very useful to many swarming archetypes that struggle with on-archetype bosses and currently need to rely on generic extra deck options to cover their weaknesses. It also helps those archetypes by having more deck-thinning tools to quickly and reliably draw the cards they need without having to worry about setting up for their deck boss.
While the Charmers aren't anywhere close to viable, I still find them fun from a collector's standpoint. I picked up their structure deck immediately and got all of their Link counterparts and familiars.
Love the Charmers one of my favorite archetypes there fun to mix with other elemental archetypes I love the image of the Charmers riding the Kaiju into battle
@@blacklightjohn The link charmers yeah, cuz Halquifibrax got banned in MD and Charmers are the easiest way for Sky Strikers to go Charmer-Selene-Accescode Talker as a Game Closer (which Sky Striker really lack)
It's only a matter of time before the power creep reaches the point where entire archetypes that summon themselves from the deck without starting a chain become the standard.
Maybe in a decade or something. Of course, that would probably be powercreeped on arrival, like monsters that Special themselves from somehow not competing against being Specialed from the there.
That’s never going to happen. The base rules of Special Summoning have no limits to how many times it can be performed. And in a tcg that has no resource management like Mana from magic, or energy from Pokémon, you can keep chains going and going with how Yugioh cards work today. One of the biggest issues of many other big stupid issues why I gave up on the game… And it won’t happen because people love their one turn or two turn wins that take them a half hour to do from a hundred chain effects…what a boring game
@@erickchristensen746 I will never understand why I am supposed to care about the competitive scene. Seriously, I love that I do not have to buy more packs for the sake of pulling enough resource cards nor have to worry about getting enough of the same color. Yu-Gi-Oh became popular because of how simple it *was* to pick up and is still probably the most lenient toward casuals, despite the toxic players, _but a "hundred chain effects" in _*_competitive_*_ matches should still matter to me_ for some reason. It is like how Synchros powercreeped the game like crazy with how they were far easier and more reliable than Fusions and/or Rituals, but that meant I could actually use one I pull, unlike something like Gate Guardian, Machina Force, Spirit of the Pharaoh, etc. (You know what I mean with those examples bosses that need specific cards to be summoned.) Was indeed stupid to have made them more powerful than harder to summon monsters though. Digimon seems like a great comparison and I love the franchise, but I have zero experience with buying those packs. Seriously, why care about the competitive scene if you hate it? Note: Before you respond, I know nothing about you, and I doubt you can think of a reason for me to care after what I said on pulling resources.
@@Bezaliel13 I never cared for the competitive, the game as a whole became dumb. Just listed a few reasons as to why the game became less fun for me as a whole as well as commenting on why I think the change talked about here wouldn’t happen and gave examples. I have no memory of how the old digimon card game played and no knowledge of the new one.
I thought Zoa and Metalzoa looked cool and tried to use them in my deck back in the day. I still remember being really confused when I found out that Metalzoa can't be summoned if you actually draw it. To this day I suspect that Konami just miswrote the card text and then never bothered to fix it because the card sucks anyway
This mechanic has a decent chunk of potential, the issue was always the bricking risks associated with it compared to contact fusions and Link summons that essentially do the same thing. And as they said, not actually printing good enough monsters for doing it with. This could be an interesting alternative to extra deck summoning in the future though if it's done with monsters that can either normal summon themsleves or special from hand as well, and give a new archetype an edge if they want to use certain Pot Cards or Monarch floodgates.
They should have made the metal monsters fusions, that require the base monster and a machine, but can be specialsummoned via metal morph, similar to the timaeus fusions. Theinen and dark sage should be fusions too. Heck great moth gate guardian and wall shadow could all be fixed by making them extradeck monsters.
@@proclarushtaonasat that's what they did with the last set announcement. The OCG is getting an Ultimate Great Moth retrain that's Fusion, requires 1 lvl8 and 1 lvl7 insect, or 1 Insect with an insect monster equipped to it, which means that you can use the original versions of Great moth and petite moth and so on to summon it
@@proclarushtaonasat Honestly, Gate guardian should've been able to use Each of his materials effects. Let's say You could banish 1 of them from the graveyard, in order for Gate Guardian to use Sanga, Suijin, and Kazejins effect respectively. Plus have a Once per turn, protection from destruction/card effects.
@@rukitomikutochi8764 true that, so many monsters were wasted. Wall shadow, on top of being a fusion, and having shadow ghouls effect should have labyrinth of nightmares effect, so he switches his mode during the end phase. This would make him vulnerable to kunai with chain, like the anime. He could also be unaffected by spells, and float into one of its materials, depending on his mode, when he was destroyed. Like if you destroy him in atk mode, labyrinth wall comes back, if he is destroyed in Def mode the ghoul returns.
@@proclarushtaonasat I honestly to this day, Believe Labyrinth wall should've had an effect as well. Maybe one that Changes a Monster's position on the Board, during the main phase. Then, if Wall shadow is on the Field you can special summon shadow ghoul from the deck.
10:40 Those are the important words here "From the Extra-Deck", I think monsters interacting from the deck is a wasted opportunity, it's the perfect way to support monsters that inherently reside in the Main-Deck, such as Rituals, Normals or other monsters that may have special mechanics for them like Metalmorphs. Imagine a Ritual Monster being added to the hand returning a Ritual Spell from its Archetype to the Deck, Avoiding Bricks, or a normal monster so the normal monsters are truly usable and not just a dead draw that needs a Ton of support to be able to be worth to include, imagine a suship that special summons or add to the hand returning the vanilla to the deck, a Perfect Moth that special summons ITSELF from Deck tributing the cocoon of evolution or something like that.
For me I think when come to Ritual monsters, monsters like Perfect Moth, Gate Guardian, monsters like Metal Zoa, Lv up monsters or monsters in general that can only be special summon by using the correct card(s) should of been in the Extra Deck aka Fusion Deck in the first place. Of course...YugiOh has gone so far it doesn't make sense to do this RIGHT NOW because it will just create another pile of mess and it is WASTE OF TIME. However if they done this back then might of been different and fun? After that introduce Synch, XYZ, Pen and Links.
I've always felt like a lot of the Metalmorph Monsters could be "decent" if they got retrained with the effect of Metalmorph being retained itself. Or going with an angle like Darkness Metal and making a spiritual successor.
The anime version of Darkness Metal is much closer to the original, requiring a tribute of Red-Eyes Darkness Dragon equipped with Metal Plus. And thank god they didn't print it like that in the real game, even though REDMD having immunity to targeting spells and a non-opt discard 1 card to negate a spell would have been cool as fuck.
Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon and Metalzoa were at least good in Yu-Gi-Oh the Falsebound Kingdom, where, like many machines, they gained the armor ability at a certain level, which reduces incoming damage. Additionally, being machines, they can equip Shock Shell, which gives it 500 more atk and makes it confuse any monster it hits
@@erickchristensen746 Who here did not seem privy to that information? Your immaturely asking if I am a child does not cover that "Captain Obvious" implied nobody here needed that information. I doubt crashlight54 was helped by it.
I remember when yugioh the movie came out. My parents went with me and we each got a pack of movie tie in cards (so the sphinxes). So i ended up with 3 of each card. It was amazing when you actually got to pull the full combo off but hell yes it was inconsistent.
Here's how I would retrain Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon (please forgive the bad PSCT) You can Special Summon this card from your hand by Tributing 1 Dragon-type monster you control equipped with Metalmorph. If this card is Summoned: Target 1 Metalmorph in your GY; equip it to this monster. Cannot be targeted by your opponents' monster or trap cards/trap card effects.
Now this is a way to make a custom card. Just a suggestion, maybe also allow it to be summoned from the deck like the regular Red Eyes black metal, and change its immunity from monsters and traps to spells? I mean, that's what Metalmorph did in the anime
Weird timing. I was just asking from a YGO discord server about how to turbo Barrier statue of inferno from the deck to hand or directly to field, constructing a Suship-Fire attribute lockdown with it. Needless to say, it cant.
Special summons from the deck need to be able to have utility in the hand if they’re ever going to be good anyways. If the main appeal of a card is to be able to get it from your deck, it’s just another introduction of inconsistency if you draw it and it becomes a dead hand card. And I’m sure no one would buff them by making them hand traps, since that’s the answer to making every mechanic with issues good.
Not really. The chance of NOT drawing a card is a lot greater than the chance of drawing it. It would be a problem if a lot of card share the same condition and none of them have hand effect, but for a one of, it's Garnet that is useful even of you don't draw brillant fusion, wich makes it better than an actual garnet.
I would like to see an archetype of cards that focus on using generic equip spells and traps to special summon themselves from different locations!..... Oh wait... I just invented Noble knights again didn't I?
Always loved the Charmer archetype. I was really happy to see them get more support over the years and I still run them in master duel. Clawed my way to diamond with em as well. Will always be my favorites.
That's an interesting angle for powercreep actually, I'd be super interested in seeing an archetype that is otherwise not too hot but has consistency to die for because all the cards are live from the deck as long as you can activate one of them. Not today, but in a few years from now? At the very least it would be an interesting exercise to figure out a deck that could do that fluidly without becoming an instant tier 0 deck
What's missing for a lot of these cards is a floor value. The way it's designed it's very feast or famine, with the feast being more like a small snack really... They need some sort of counter to the fact that they are bricks if drawn/not summoned. For example maybe Theinen can be shuffled back into the deck by revealing it and it lets you draw Pyramid of Light or the other two combo piece monsters. At best you get to summon Theinen, at worst you can tutor your combo pieces.
Like others have said, this seems like a mechanic that failed solely because there never were actually good cards printed with it. It could become competitive just by actually getting good cards. "But why would Konami ever made a good card archetype where the cards summoned themselves from the deck instead of just making more Extra deck monsters?" Let me remind you that this is the same company that made a Ritual archetype where the monsters cards act as Ritual spells themselves, a Synchro archetype where you deduct the levels of a monster from the tuner in order to Special summon a Synchro with a level that's the difference between the materials used, a Pendulum archetype where the monster cards move themselves around the monster zones and the back row as if it was a board game, and a Fusion archetype where the monsters trigger Fusion summons by being milled. It's very clear by this point that they sometimes will pursue certain mechanics simply because of the novelty factor.
It would be cool a new wave or just 1 single monster of support for gladiator beast which lets you during the main phase on a hard once per duel, return a gladiator beast you control from the field to the deck to special summon this "new monster" from the deck and then apply its effects, so you extend more during the main as opposed to wait for the standard battle phase tag-out effect, essentially by making any normal summonable gladiator a non-brick
Back then I was fully convinced that the summoning of red-eyes black metal dragon was a quick effect, so that you could "counter" cards that would target. I guess I wanted to believe that because the mechanics of these metal monsters don't make sense to me otherwise
It's funny that there was a dubism that called Musician King when equipped with Metalmorph Heavy Metal King. And now I wouldn't be shocked if Heavy Metal King was given the Darkness Metal treatment. Like. You can special summon this card from your hand by banishing a Light Spellcaster you control.
I can foresee two future monsters that don't exist yet, probably will be made eventually and have the ability to special summon themselves from the deck.... The "Awakening of the Possesed" monsters that correspond to Lyna and Dharc's familiars.
Theres probably a good archetpe that could be made from metalmorth. a) turn it into a equip spell card with some effect like: "(1) You control a normal monster you can activate this card during ryour opopnents turn (including the damage step)" "(2) The equiped monster cannot be target of effects your opponents control. Banish any monster that battles with the equipped monster at the start ofthe battle phase" "(3) if this card is removed from the field while equipped to a normal monster, you can special summon one "metalmorphed" monster from your deck and equip this card from the GY to it." And them tthe metalmorphed mosnters could be versions of all kinds of DM era monsters, the same way toons are. With all kinds of really good effects and the restriction that you can only special summon them by the effect of "Ghost rare metalphorph".
I would love to see a retrained metalmorph archetype. One that gives monsters spell, trap and targeting immunity that carries over to the boss monsters.
Maybe the new wave of monsters will be monsters from the extra deck that special summon themselves when something specific happens, like a card is equipped to certain monster, you lose X amount of LP, you won a triple coin toss. Lets say dark sage but in the extra deck. I can't imagine it being too competitive but it surely would bring quite the gimmick decks.
To fix Metalmorphing considering where the game is now The monster can be special summoned from hand/deck/graveyard This summon can not be stopped once started Grant the monster the effects of metalmorph Grant the monster an effect if it didn't have one, but if it did enhance it somehow.
Honestly, I'm surprised there have only been 2 monsters that can be special summoned with Metalmorph. And both appeared in OG Yu-Gi-Oh!. Specifically, Duelist Kingdom. Would have been nice if Konami expanded on Metalmorph targets, rather than a dragon and a fiend.
I do like metalmorph as a concept, equip traps have been bandoned just after they appeared. With them having the downside of being slow traps you could argue they can be made a little broken.
They probably will have 2 more at some point; the last two Charmer companions retrains still are missing after all. This is, honestly, how they should have done the "Overpowered Extra Deck Boss Monster" type cards to limit the ability to accidentally create ways to turbo them out and thus future proof them a bit.
I'd say the way to do that would be a second extra-deck that you can't summon from using anything other than the conditions specifically named on the card, exclusively for this kind of card and similar super-specific combinations or transformations (Assault Mode, Gate Guardian, the named-material fusions, etc). It feels like they deserve a dedicated mechanic at least as much as Rituals do, For that matter, some of those, like Exodia Necross, are practically indistinguishable from Rituals like Drytron that have tribute requirements other than the standard "tribute sufficient levels from hand/field", mechanically, except that they're not tagged as such and so can't be searched.
@@qwertystop I'm purposefully suggesting placing such cards into the Main Deck to limit consistency when running them given the issues they cause when too easy to summon, so the unserachability is actually a benefit. There always needs to be some type of downside to running ridiculously powerful cards and in Yugioh the most consistent downside is hitting a deck's consistency, despite Konami having apparently being incapable of understanding the concept. Gate Guardian, however, feels like it should have been the first contact fusion given that it needs three two tribute monsters to summon and doesn't even keep their (quite good for the time) shared effect.
I’d call these type of monsters “main deck fusion monsters” cause that kinda is what they are. Their benefit compared to fusion monsters is that they don’t need polymerization, but the downside is if you draw it they’re always a straight up -1 garnet.
Even if Thousand Dragon and Dark Sage were like the anime, they wouldn't be really playable unless Time Wizard was a spell, then maybe like the Hermos/Timaeus/Critias were used, but the added gamble would inherently make it worse. Baby Dragon was never playworthy and DM was basically never seen until Circle came out (except maybe Skilled Dark Magician, etc) All of these definitely could use retrains, but even with Dragon Nails being slightly better, the cards need to be REALLY good to see decks.
Time Roulette - Go! Quick-Play Spell Special Summon 1 "Time Wizard" monster from your Deck or GY, then flip a coin: If Heads, half the ATK of monsters your opponent controls, and negate their effects, also, Summon 1 monster from your Deck, Extra Deck, or GY that lists "Time Wizard" in its text, ignoring it's summoning conditions, also, it can attack each monster your opponent controls, once each. If Tails, destroy all ATK position monsters on your side of the field and lose 500 LP for each, and if you do, negate the effects of 1 face-up card on the field for each card destroyed. You can banish this card from your GY; Special Summon 1 "Time Wizard" monster and/or "Thousand Dragon" from your GY. You can only activate 1 "Time Roulette - Go!" effect per turn. This way, the negative effect still can be useful, and it has some consistency being able to negate some cards somewhere. Retrains for Dark Sage and Thousand Dragon could be done, but aren't necessary as the attack everything might be enough to make them okish (making actual old cards relevant is far more badass) Anyways, they already made their "Time Wizard of Tomorrow" which is a "Time Wizard" Monster, and yeah it's okish (negation would be far better than destruction) but has nothing to do with the monsters Time Wizard affected in the show that are still in limbo, but would work with this too.
Inherent summon is cool, but could be a brick to draw/banish from Desires so it's similar if not weaker than extra deck sunmoning. It would be easy to make it broken by them having a hand effect as well, but by itself the mechanic is good but nothing spectacular and the monsters don't need to be this bad.
@@nnnp634 just to point out of good that mechanich would be. Imagine a monster whose only effrct is to SS itself from the deck, and nothing else. Wich decks wouldn't benefit a lot from putting 1 in to summon and use as a material for whatever? The chances of drawing it in the opening hand are slim enought, and is a free +1 if that does nit happen.
@@noukan42 If no condition has to be met, sure it probably would be amazing, but a link 1 which could be summoned without materials would be as well. Synchro or fusion with no materials would be even more broken
Maybe they could make super strong summon from the deck Monsters but they have the restriction to not have anything in the Extra Deck. Basically making the Main Deck look like the Extra Deck for that type of archtype
I had an obsession with Mai Valentine's Harpy Lady (the original vanilla version). metalmorph was one of the few equip cards that gave Harpy Lady enough ATK boost from a single card that would allow Harpy Lady beat monsters like Blue Eye 3000. I once use metalmorph on Harpy Lady to beat Horus Lv8. The look of shock on his face seeing a 3k ATK losing to a 1300 vanilla monster was priceless, Minor note I kept a non-spellcasting area on the field at same time. I made a Mai Valentine deck with trap cards giving ATK over magic ATK boosters. I know I know that annoying bane of my existence Jinzo was definitely a threat, but I had a few options to prevent Jinzo. My Bakura combo often caught players off guard. Dimension hole + Jowgen the Spiritualist. Jowgen also shut down that Phoenix and Vampire Lord skills, so they stay gone. Throw in a Soul Release and boom gone. Soul release was another card I used to prevent monsters like Black Luster Soldier envoy of the beginning from being played.
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Poor Theinen. I feel like it deserves to have "If" instead of "When". Stupid Missing The Timing! Errata when?! Anyway, neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
The Forbidden Memories promos are iffy, not every copy of the game seemed to include them. I know for a fact my copy didn't, so I think they were probably only available with later prints of the game.
Ikr. The monster should of be allowed to be special summon from hand or deck as long as you meet the requirement. The monster should of gain the Metalmorph's bonus before damage effect + spell immunity + if the monster get destroyed by battle you can special summon the original monster back to the field.
A couple of points, firstly, Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon is a retrain of and originally a metalised power-up Red-Eyes Darkness Dragon, the same way the two Metalmorph Monsters were! It's only in the TCG/OCG where it got an Effect that actually made it good (seriously, even I wouldn't have played the Animé version of Darkness Metal)! And secondly, there are a few cards these days that can summon out of the Deck, T.G. Trident Launcher, for example, on Link Summon, lets you Special Summon a T.G. each from your Hand, Deck and Graveyard! I play it as a playmaker to set up to go into Hyper Librarian, Star Guardian and Power Gladiator, setting me up to Accel Synchro Summon Shooting Star Dragon T.G. EX! Crystron Halqifibrax, who I also run, also summons out a Lv 3 or lower Tuner from your Deck before trading itself in for a Synchro Tuner from your Extra Deck, which also counts as a Synchro Summon, triggering any Effects the targets might have, like Formula Synchron and T.G.s Star Guardian and Wonder Magician, for example!
Way back in middle/highschool I used the metalmorph strat a few times. I always found casual play more fun than folllowing the meta anyway. Due to questionable rulings at the time and not listing *when* exactly you could do the special summoning of metalmorphed monsters, I would do something along the lines of; Double Coston (already on the field) > Heavy Storm > Zoa/Redeyes > battle phase, activate metal morph, attack, tribute up to Metal zoa/redeyes, attack, Call of the Haunted > Redeyes/Zoa OTK. (2700+2800+2400=7900LP, so if they had ANY missing LP or spent any prior to this, or if I had any kind of burn effect. And if it was Zoa instead of Red Eyes, that was another 600 damage for 8500) Didn't make it 'good' but made these unexpected combos a lot more fun an interesting. This was also around the time of Structure Decks 3 and 4 (Water and fire respectively) so while quite powercrept, we didn't have mass reprints of staple/splashable omni-removes/board wipes.
My first ever Yu-Gi-Oh card, back before I ever played the game... Was Blue-Eyes Toon Dragon. But my SECOND-EVER CARD... Was Toon World, after I confronted the man who gave me Blue-Eyes and told him I could read. BUT MY THIRD EVER CARD was Familiar-Possessed Hiita. And while I had no clue that "From The Deck" was a rare clause, I figured that "Piercing Damage" had to be something absolutely EPIC (sadly, it was not, but I didn't care). Ironically, my first starter deck was Starter Deck Kaiba Reloaded- and surprisingly, despite what you'd expect from the Blue-Eyes synergy, Hiita pulled just as much weight as the Toon for the exact reason of being an 1850 normal-summonable beatstick.
Maybe this mechanic can improve with more cards, like this example: Quick spell card that activates if you have a card on your hand that requires to be summoned from the deck. The effect of this quick spell card would be: return said card to your deck, then choose any of these options: - set 1 metalmorph or 1 monster that uses "metalmorph", but you cannot special summon monsters for the rest of this turn. - draw 1 card. - negate the activation of a spell/trap card For Theinen, what about this? > quick spell card that activates only if you have theinen on your hand and at least 1 of the monsters on your GY and 1 on the field. Special summon Theinen - by removing the said monsters from the GY and/or field.
If there were an archetype that revolved around this mechanic where the monsters just got bonus effects for being summoned by that condition, it'd have hella broken potential. I think it'd be perfect for like an Evolzaur retrain.
Metalmorph should almost just become an archetype like Assault Modes, they could fix some of the issues with assault mode types but it would just be kind of crap since it revolves around main deck monsters. But they could have some fun with it, and just have a bunch of old boss monsters get metal counterparts. Like Summoned Skull can get another counterpart called Metal Skull, and so on and so forth, and also adding in more consistency cards like searchers and whatnot
These, as well as related things like Assault Mode (main-deck monster with specific summon conditions on a different card) and the less-generic Extra Deck stuff (specific-material fusions, Fang of Critias fusions, fusions with specific conditions that can't actually be brought out by a fusion spell) really doesn't feel like the same concept as the more generic Extra Deck summons, but there's never been a dedicated mechanic made for them, they all end up as either main-deck effect monsters or fusion monsters with a few lines of text explaining that for most practical purposes they actually aren't ("must be special summoned by so-and-so", etc). I wonder if it might be interesting/useful to put all that stuff in a sort of second Extra Deck (call it a Transformation Deck or something) with no card-count limit (like the old Fusion Deck) but no ability to cheat things out without meeting their specific requirements? Since extra-cheat effects and generic-materials monsters were probably the reason that the Fusion/Extra Deck needed a size limit, to stop people from just bringing every possible super-situational but potentially-useful generic Synchro or Fusion that they might theoretically be useful one time in the whole tournament, and thereby having an answer for everything when you put all of that together. It could let the hard-to-bring-out stuff with extremely situational effects see nonzero play, perhaps, and sort of fits with the idea that these aren't conceptually *different* monsters, but upgrades or combinations of existing ones. The anime and manga would often show them as just something-that-happens rather than separate cards you could draw into when you didn't need them, but of course a physical card game needs to print them on some actual card, and that card needs to go somewhere.
If the extra deck functioned at the launch of the game as it does now, I think cards like Red Eyes and it's metal morph form would have been more playable as they wouldn't take up spots in the main deck. A lot of what the cards did in the show during the Duelest Kindgom arch was take existing monsters and change them on the fly based on card effects, which works great in an anime and/or fantasy setting, but not easy to replicate in a card game. Throw all those concepts of cards into an extra deck of possible combinations and they would be more like the show. I think a lot of early ideas suffered because the anime was trying to sensationalize the game instead of stick to how the game actually works. And I know with how everything started and how quickly the card game gained popularity in the manga, that they quickly switched the entire story to center around the card game from then on out, so they didn't really have time to come up with a comprehensive game design with tons of test play before hand. I think they'd have to do a major overhaul of the game to make it more balanced over all and I think that would include removing cards completely from the game, like Exodia, so it wouldn't be so broken. But then it loses it's entire history and fundamentally becomes something new while still kind of parodying it's former self. The Deck Building game Ascension is based much on the ideas of MTG, created by Tournement Winners of MTG. I wouldn't mind seeing something similar with Yugioh, but I don't think it would be as popular.
I have thought of some good ideas for monsters that summon themselves from the deck. I have though of an archetype that force your opponent to draw cards to try to deck out them. The boss monster can special summon itself from the deck and it is the following: Gifter Santa Light spellcaster level 10. 2500/3000 Eff: Cannot be Normal/Set summoned. If you control no monsters in your Main monster zones you can special summon this card from your hand, deck or gy. If this card is special summoned, your opponent draws 5 cards. If a monster is normal or special summoned, both players draw 1 card.
It is always so funny to think how incredibly weak every other card in the early sets are compared to the power spells. Metalmorph is a pretty nice card for the time but it still has barely any use because it's just so easy to remove threats from the board with the spells for a 2 for one.
Red Eyes Black Dragon has always been one of my fave decks to build and run. Back in the day I do remember having MetalMorph in that deck too as well as Black Metal Dragon, Zoa, and Metal Zoa. However I mainly used this deck to bring out the red eyes fusion cards
It’s funny how most of them are just attempts to replicate how cards were constantly transforming in Duelist Kingdom because you can do anything you want in Duelist Kingdom as long as you can justify it.
Metalmorph now been dark rebellion XYZ Dragon in fact it better than metalmorph since it gain permenant dmg while metalmorph only gain dmg during dmg step
Yup. They're basically extra deck monsters that Konami didn't think to put in the extra deck. Simply put, there's no reason to give a monster the ability to summon itself from the deck. The extra deck exists, and searchers exist. If you want something that can only be summoned in a specific situation, you can put it in the extra deck, and if you want a monster that can be summoned normally or in a specific situation, just make a Graff that can summon it instead of it summoning itself when Graff.
So a fun fact about Rare Metalmorph it being limited to Machine monsters is possibly a reference to the yugioh anime, there was a duel in the original yugioh anime where Bandit Keith and Joey dueled, Bandit Keith used machine monsters and, because this was duelist kingdom and it felt like anyone could just make things up as they went during duels, Keith's machine monsters were immune to spell cards. This duel was also the anime debut of Metalmorph, Metal Zoa and Red Eyes Black Metal Dragon, possibly why they chose Metal Morph to get a retrain that gave Machine monsters a (temporary) immunity to spells.
For those that are going to bring up the retrain REDMD. Anime REDMD requires you to tribute Red Eyes Darkness Dragon equiped with the anime trap card Magic Reflection Armor - Metal Plus. The entire purpose was to mimic how old Metalmorph plays. What do you get? Negate spells that target it (its not and was never relevant protection). If your opponent activates a spell, discard a card to negate it. Its just Magic Jammer yet arguably worse. Take this into consideration. REDMD anime requires you to not only tribute a Red Eyes for Darkness Dragon. You also need an extremely circumstancal trap card which already offers spell protection. And tribute the Darkness Dragon to summon Anime REDMD. Konami went out of their way to buff the card into the real game cause anime version is beyond terrible.
I think Red Eyes Metal Dragon or Metal Zoa should of been given the Metalmorph's effect + spell immunity + and when they are destroyed by battle you can special summon their original vanilla form back to the field. You should be allowed to summon them from hand or deck as long as you meet the requirements...but I think their "Metal form" should be in the Extra deck. Lol
I have a stupid idea, Red Eyes Rare Metal Dragon, and Rare Metalzoa These monsters can only be special summoned from the hand or deck by sending their metal counterpart equipped with Rare Metalmorph from the field. They have 3500 for red eyes, and 4000 for zoa, and they have the additional effects of, these cards are immune to card effects, and when an attack is declared involving these monsters, they gain half the attack of the monster they are battling once per turn. This evolves the effects of Rare Metalmorph, while giving them a cool boss monster that is never worth going through all the trouble to bring out normally
kinda funny how metalmorph did recently had a short lived success in ocg in labrynth. Since kashtrila, A TOP TIER ARCHETYPE can make the arrival @ignister thanks to number 42(which is banned in tcg), labrynth didn't have a easy and searchable way to easily kill it outside that. Then everyone did remember after that that the lady was LV8 and rank 8 monsters tend to have a big attack like galaxy prime photon or zombiestein.
For the last couple months or so I've felt like your list themes had become a bit random and there-for-the-sake-of-making-any-video, so to speak, but I am happy to say that the Failed Cards and Mechanics series never dissapoint!
I have a special place for Metalzoa in my heart bc it was a pretty hard to out boss in some obscure play station yugioh game, I don't remember the name but you could fusion any monster at any time without any fusion spell, and a boss fused I think two Zoas into Metalzoa. Those 3k were hard to out lol
The Familiar Possessed and Charmer cards are my favorite cards of the game. I have a specific attachment to them. For one was the first time I went like "oh, this is the same character. And hey have thus other monster with them" before I even knew how to read English. Also they're cute.
what a coincidence, I've been watching the first season of the anime for the first time these days and I just watched today the episodes where Metalzoa and Red Eyes Black Metal Dragon appear, pretty much at the exact same time this video came out, lol!
The Metalmorph Monsters would be easy to fix into somewhat usable monsters... Give them the full effect of Metalmorph for starters, them losing out on the "gain half of target's ATK when attacking" makes them weaker than the original monster equipped with Metalmorph, and maybe since the process of summoning them is slow and kinda bad, they could also add in at least some layer of protection to the Metalmorph monsters... Maybe Rare Metalmorph's effect in addition to the regular Metalmorph...
The Metal counterparts would have been better if they simply had an actual effect. Just give them Metalmorph’s effect, and have it work when it battles in general, not when it attacks only. There, now they’re better than their original counterparts
If I could change anything about Yu-Gi-Oh, it'd be eliminating hand traps, reverting the Extra Deck back into the Fusion Deck, and then limit every card to one per deck.
If metal Zoa and red eyes black metal dragon kept the abilities of metal morph of having gaining 1/2 of the attack power of the attacked monster I think it would have better play
I think we don't see this kind of effect for two reasons: 1. It would be a game lose for any other reason if you picked up for deck and started looking through it. and it would cause many rules nightmares when people did go and look through their deck by mistake if they thought they had monsters they could summon from there whey they actually couldn't. 2. The effect is so powerful that if they did put it into any competitive decks it would risk making tier 0 strategies.
Metalmorph used to be worth playing way back then old school Yu-Gi-Oh days. (Lot a fun especially in older yugioh video games) after stronger plus powerful new cards came metalmorph was no longer needed.
In the ds game yugioh gx spirit caller i made a meme deck with both metalmorph monsters. Partly out of nostalgia but mostly because i had been doing a spot of drinking and it seemed funny. I got around them being a brick in my hand by running several cards that needed a discard cost so then I wouldn’t have to discard something actually useful. And when I actually used metalzoa or metal dragon i got extra duel points (the currency system of the game by which you could buy more packs)
