Metroid: Other M's Story is TRASH! - Characters In-Depth 

Despite how Other M was executed, I'd love a game where Samus is more vocal. She just needs to be in-character. I can see it work. Who's with me?

Adam kinda feels like a unlikable Roy Mustang

I mean, it's well known that Samus has a soft spot for small cute animals. She'd probably be legitimately sad about the Baby Metroid dying. But yeah, not like "grieving mother" levels of sad.

By the way, about Porky Minch. I don't think that applies to how he was in Mother 3 (which was the version you showed). Sure in Earthbound (Mother 2), he was a perfidious wretch who showed little hesitation in siding with the cosmic destroyer, Giygas himself. But after that, his character developed into a much better villain after the whole abuse of time travel transformed him into an ageless but somewhat crippled dictator. As he quotes in a scene from Mother 3, demonstrating this. "How stupid can you be?! No matter how much you change the rules, no matter how much you refuse to admit defeat, in the end, the creatures known as people will always sign their own death warrant by acting out of stupidity and evil, and then mankind will be gone for good! You could've been happy if you had done as I did!" So in that case, he developed into a more complex villain who wants to wipe out mankind because he has seen reason to believe that humans will doom themselves by default because of them being sinful by nature, and figures he might as well get it over with before they cause their own inevitable demise. He's almost like Ultron in that sense, but more grim. Not exactly a "villain you love to hate" there, more of a Well-Intentioned Extremist. Thought I'd clarify on that. And on top of that, Porky in Mother 3 is still worlds better than Adam.

Oh yeah and her armor falls off whenever she's in danger. Does that make her more 3-dimentional?

Even the story wants to kill Adam.

Ok, I actually found a good reason why Adam resents Samus. In Japan, soldiers should be seen as always following orders, and early discharge is seen as abandoning your own. But in the Manga, ADAM encouraged her to leave and supported her, so fuck Other M's reasoning.

I hate how they butchered Adam more than anything else in this game. He just felt... hollow.

Real Adam: You’re the best warrior I’ve ever seen, but don’t forget you’re still a lady. Don’t ever lose sight of your humanity. M Adam: Whatever I say goes, LADY. To hell with you and your accomplishments, I’m the one with the rank, LADY.

Remember how there was a subplot about a traitor killing off the GF Troopers? If I hadn’t played the game recently I wouldn’t, it comes out of nowhere, contributes nothing to the story, and the traitor is killed before you even figure out who it was. Those troopers might as well have been killed by bosses or regular enemies and it wouldn’t have made a difference. Also I like how Adam comes off as almost mad that Samus left the GF when in the manga which this game tries to bring into the main story, he flat out says her leaving was a good idea since she’d be able to get way more done without all their restrictions. Also also Anthony is kinda like Lucia in DMC2 where he’s a legitimately good character probably doomed to be forever trapped in a bad game. Honestly this is one of those games that was bad at launch and only gets worse with age.

I don't think Sakamoto would be as maligned as he is for this game if he could *accept* that he stumbled big-time here. It sounds like everything went according to his vision here. But it also sounds like to this day, he still doesn't realize his vision was flawed from the start. If he did, and he owned up to it, I think he'd be a lot more respected for that, at least.

Kinda sucks that this is the first and probably last cinematic Metroid game...

I cannot stand the relationship between Samus and Adam, in Metroid: Other M! Everything about it just feels wrong! Samus is overly submissive and eager to please Adam, who knowingly takes advantage of Samus' subservience! Also, it makes me happy to know that I'm not the only one who remembers how Metroid Fusion painted a much better picture of Adam, rather than the manipulative sociopath we got in Other M. Oh, and DO NOT get me started on how this game botched the origin of Adam's catchphrase: "Any objections, Lady?"

Anthony is what Adam wishes he could be.

I’m gonna say this, the entire time playing the game I thought Adam was the deleter

This might be kinda morbid, but if they re-made Fusion or a sequel of it, I'd love to see Anthony to hang with us around... Only to see that it was a Sa-X messing with us

I fell in love with Metroid Prime, and "Other M" just feels wrong when it comes to Samus. If I had to compare her to someone, it would be Doomguy: Silent, aggressive, brave to a fault, and all business. And like Doomguy, she just did her job. "Other M" treats her like a child, and Adam acts like she hasn't slaughtered GODS. And even without the Primes, she's *still* fought the X parasites, which may as well be the Thing. What happened to her spine? Edit: Forgot about the Ridley thing. There is no defense of that: She's killed him thrice, and even if she's spooked by him, she's still beat his ass THRICE. Doomguy has killed the Icon of Sin 3 times before Eternal, and you don't see the Slayer piss himself.

Anthony Higgs is the best character in this game

*Reads title* "Hmm, yes, the floor is made out of floor"

I feel calling it trash is a compliment. Looking forward to this video and I didn't even know I wanted it.

"And thanks to these cutscenes, this game passed the Bechdal Test" I can't even tell if this is meant to be a joke positive or not.

I think this game hurt Adam's character more than Samus. It makes sense that he's mad at Samus because she gave the metroid away to be used as a bioweapon. The problem I have with the story is that Samus never argues against Adam. In the Manga, Adam would be cold and calculating while Samus was more hasty and caring. They worked off each other well and covered each other's faults. Adam shooting Samus makes no sense for his character. Also Phantoon is the ghost of Melissa Burgman. The Phantoon in Super was the ghost of Mother Brain from the original Metroid.

Okey now you got this dumpsterfire off your chest can talk about Metroid prime 2 echoes or Fusion now you talk about the worst of Sumas Aaron you can now talk about the best of Sumas Aaron

An idea once had for a Metroid game is where instead of playing Samus, you play as someone who trying to find her after she was rumored to have gone missing on a far-off planet. As you explore the said planet, you'll find clues of her whereabouts and even attach her discarded upgrades to your own suit (except to Morph Ball and Screw Attack since you don't have Chozo DNA) but more importantly, you'll learn about what your relationship with Samus is revealing that you are her adopted child and that this is taking place several years after the mainline games. After finding her and successfully leaving the planet Samus offers you her helmet showing that she's proud of you saying, "A new bounty hunter is born."

Good gods was this game stupid. Like, how did we possibly get a game this bad? The original Metroid games were masterpieces of minimalistic storytelling, but this is just... awful.

*Loud hand clapping after watching the vid* Nailed it. Nearly everything this game attempted, Fusion did better- be it a more heavy story dwelling on the events after Super Metroid, or the slightly more linear level structure with more streamlined item acquisition.

The gameplay was alright, story and voice acting trash, this is what I feel

Also. Samus in the Samus and Joey Manga (which is canon and takes places between Other M and Fusion) literally has to look after a child and acts like a competent adult and sees another Space Dragon like Ridley and doesn't break down into a fit.

I'll say it over and over. This game would have been way better storywise if it was written as the last mission Samus did for the federation before becoming an independent bounty hunter and before Zero mission. By having a Samus that never unlocked any function of her suit yet, by having her still under federation and Adam orders. By having her very first confrontation with Ridley, which would explain the PTSD. By having this mission being the reason she decided to quit the federation after the death of her friends/comrades in a mission that was provoked by federation actions and Space pirates. The story could have been about MB creation by the federation, using biological engineering and sample from multiples monster aliens, before being stolen by the space pirates (or going rogue). Madeline would be just the interface of the brain. For the armor upgrade, there is many ideas that could be used. For example, having the tutorial being about the federation analyzing the suit for active duty (indicating that Samus was using federation equipment until then) and have the upgrades locked in the suit. Have Madeline(MB) being the one to unlock them as the story advance, under the guise that the suit function was also studied there, only to reveal later that MB also contain Chozo sample, and using that, she at the end, deactivate the suit in the final confrontation with her. Imagine how the final sequence would have been so much better in a fight of Samus zero armor. Heck, you could have made a whole theme about Samus over-relying on her equipment and suit function, and her overcoming her PTSD by learning personal inner strength, which came into climax when she face down MB with nothing else than the zero suit and the blaster. No one would have made to much jazz about Samus being over-emotional, she was still young and not yet the badass hunter we know. Its not about waiting for authorization, it would be about learning of how to use the suit. Adam would need of course some rewriting, and each member of the federation team would need personality, at least enough so we are sad each time one of them die.

I can’t agree more Nintendo needs to bring back Anthony.

Tbh the anti masker comment is ironic since adam would be the reverse. the masked karen that would call the cops on you for not having a mask inside your home.

Metroid Fusion has been collecting dust in my collection for too long now. I'm picking it up again in honor of Samus' character. And yeah, goodbye Malkovich! And good riddance!

About the split timeline with Metroid other m. From what I can tell it wasn’t said because the prime games are non canon it’s because Sakamoto didn’t play the prime games and accidentally contradicted them. So from what I can tell there is no alternate timelines or multiple universes but that’s just what I heard I could totally be wrong.

What bugs me immensly about the Adam-Samus relationship is that she gives no credit to her Chozo family for raising her. Raven Beak and Gray Voice may have been her DNA donors, but we all know that Old Bird is her daddy.

God, Anthony is literally the only good thing in this game.

What especially pissed me off about the game is how it goes out of his way to portray Samus as helpless and in need of rescue by men. Where in previous games she was cool under pressure, ruthless in combat and able to kill demi-gods without breaking a sweat, now she's timid, easy to scare and her powersuit, probably one of the most lethal weapons in the galaxy, can be easily disabled by shooting it in the back *once*. She isn't allowed to face off with and triumph over her arch-enemies Ridley and Mother Brain herself, she has to have her male allies step in and save her. The scene where she suddenly has PTSD when seeing Ridley is especially offensive for all the reasons you mentioned. Samus *killed* Ridley several times without so much as flinching. She should not suddenly devolve into a terrified little girl when he shows up, she knows she can take him by now. And of course she gets her powersuit disabled again so that she can't fight back when Ridley snatches her up and what should have been an iconic confrontation between two nemesis gets handed off to Anthony getting to be cool and suave and saving poor damsel Samus from the dragon. After that Ridley gets murdered off-screen, so Samus doesn't even get the satidfaction of putting him down herself. MB gears up for what looks to be an awesome boss fight? Random Colonel Jerk and his merry gunmen pop up out of nowhere and shoot her and the drones dead before Samus can get as much as a power beam off. This followed by Samus being condesecended to by afroementioned Colonel Jerk and basically told to leave and let the grown-ups handle this. Most feared. Bounty Hunter. In the galaxy. Lets some slimeball talk down to her and doesn't say a peep in response. Not even a glare or something, just silent resigned compliance. Samus doesn't even get to save the day by dismantling Sector Zero and keeping the bottleship from colliding with the station. Instead, Adam literally shoots her in the back, rendering her helpless *again* and almost getting her killed by a Metroid, then performs a needless sacrifice by blowing himself up with Sector Zero. This game really turned Samus from a certified badass to a demure damsel in distress barely capable of holding her own. And before you tell me I'm just imagining the blatant sexism here, answer me this: Why exactly is Samus the only woman in armor here? How come after she left, the GF suddenly had a severe drop in female soldiers? And how come there's dozens of scenes in the game of Samus being valiantly rescued by a man and no scenes of Samus rescuing someone in platoon 7, who are, suprise surprise, an all-male team? Yeah.

Metroid: Other M is like the Last Jedi but instead of ruining Luke Skywalker its Samus Aran

And I was about to buy this as my first Metroid game.

Isn't Samus's father figure a bird?

I was actually looking forward to learn about Adam when the game was announced. So here´s a wild idea that would never happen. What if Adam ...was a supporting character in Metroid Prime 4, they re establish his relationship with Samus ...And retcon Other M? You know ...Kind of what like Valve did with their latest game.

The Manga works because it isn't a Metroid game. It is an entirely different medium and is thus free to explore a different element of story telling. Speaking of the Manga, Old Bird and Gray Voice were ten times the fathers that Adam was supposed to represent. Samus meant everything to those Chozo.

adam: let’s split up *There is 1 impostor among us*

So Sakamoto just pretend that the prime games doesn't exist. Just like I will pretend that this crap of a game doesn't exist.

Your video made me want to play metroid. I've never been interested in the franchise in my life, and now I'm trying to find a way to play Metroid Fusion. I found the environment interesting and it seems that the series has a very rich story. Thank you for introducing me to this interesting franchise... 😁😁😁

I still think a game where Samus talking can work. So Samus' dialogue & decision of not using her arsenal to their full extent right off the bat because someone else told her not to in Other M didn't do her characterization justice, fine. But we still have a basis of what her character was established to be through out the series. It doesn't even have to be a game. Maybe we can have an anime to show Samus' personal life whenever she is not on some big galaxy saving mission. You know, like with Dante in the Devil May Cry Anime.

I'm so Glad that Adam got way better treatment in fusion and at the beginning of dread (personally I think all the Adam calls when your actually in the game are actually from raven beak, since he refers to her as "Samus" and not "lady") Instead of barking orders in the opening of dread, he just warns her about the risk of taking stuff like the varia suit and stuff, and at the end of fusion its so cool to see him return, but still other M ruins him so much

The big mistake of Other M is setting it so late in the timeline. Samus having severe Ridley-based PTSD makes a lot more sense if it happens shortly after the first time she beat him. She thought she'd finally defeated the monster that ate her parents and then boom! He's back. Finding out about the corruption in the Federation and chafing under Adam's command a lot earlier would also explain why she started to become more independent. An earlier point in the timeline would also make her being treated like a kid make more sense. Maybe if they'd split it into two different temporal settings, with the main game taking place at around the same point it as the version we got, but a large amount of flashbacks taking place mucj earlier. It would also make "remember me" make sense and the deaths of the marines more impactful if it felt like Samus had an established past with them. Also Adam dying would be a lot sadder if he hadn't been such a jerk for the entire mission. Flashbacks would also allow for a more retrospective Samus, thinking about her past and dealing with all the trauma she went through and how much she's grown and changed. Which would also make the realization that Ridley can be brought back, mind fully intact, from just a bit of DNA far more horrific.

The only reason the Prime series is out of the canon of Metroid is because Sakamoto, like any good Japanese, can't accept the success of something that he work on in the past have a better handing by other studio, a foreign studio specifically. So, that explains how everything in Other M sucks, while in the "West side" of gaming development, that foreign studio pay more respect and was more faithful for Samus that him even could. That sucks even more, when we could have a better gameplay if it was less junky, Devil May Cry style! But no.

I gotta say the DS versions of Spider-man: Web of Shadows and Shattered Dimensions is more faithful to the Metroid formula than Other M ever could. I'm saying this because Shattered Dimensions was released only around two weeks after Other M. Ouch!

11:22 Maurice you dolt. You pulled files from Project Shadow from the world of Sonic the Hedgehog. What's the Galactic Federation going to do with something meant for curing all diseases, making the ultimate life form? Delete those and pull up the Metroid pngs.

Awesome video, now like with the Star Fox videos we just need a video about a Metroid game with a superb story, there are a few good choices, but I think Metroid Fusion would be a really good choice.

Thank God for following games: 1. Metroid Samus Returns 2. Metroid Dread 3. Metroid Prime 4 I'd add AM2R but I'm not interested in fanmade games.

14:13 Adam was more human when he was an actual computer in Fusion! Also Ridley isn’t a proto-Shin Godzilla, he’s an off brand Heisei King Ghidorah.

I'm betting one of those dislikes was Adam.

Something to note about Fusion and its lack of Mother Brain: the same room design of Tourian is seen in Fusion at one point, indicating the rogue Federation scientists WERE going to make one. That's honestly 100x cooler than whatever MB was.

Hoo boy, Other M. The game that made Samus a submissive wimp and turned Ridley into a Moogle Pokémon, all while attempting to retcon the awesome Prime trilogy that added so much to Metroid lore. F*** this game.

The Futurama bit was perfect.

I'll always pretend Admiral Dane is Adam.... It's much better than way

So bold to call the Anti-maskers Karens! It's like... that's the thing they call pro-maskers... but then you called them the same thing!

I want a prequel game plz - make it have jokes too! Some of the jokes in the manga had me cracking up for hours.

What I like about Other M: Samus in a military uniform. That's it

Samus doesn't inner monologue in Other M. She is talking from a point in the future about the events that happened in-game prior to the credits scene. She is basically giving a post-mission report/journal entry while en route to the Bottle Ship for the post-credits section.

Possibly the most disappointing thing about Adam (and Other M's story ini general) is that there are actually really great ideas and a ton of potential here. It's just executed poorly. It sucks because this game could have genuinely been fantastic, but it wasn't. On the bright side, hopefully this means that the necessary lessons have been learned and Dread and the following Metroid games will be fantastic and even bring the emotion and depth that Other M attempted

Who else considers Other M to be non-canon instead of the Prime games?

Wait, what the hell is the point of the power suit if shooting it in the back disables it?

I think green voice from the manga was a better Mentor or father figure for Samus.

I get the feeling Sakamoto was kinda annoyed at the praise Prime kept getting despite not being his vision, and went to do "his own". And bombed hard. Not just gameplay-wise, but story-wise as well. I care far more about the fallen civilizations we learn of through logbook entries, than the spelt off mediocre plot of utterly baffling sexism. This game made Fusion's story worse. No game should do that. At least Samus Returns seems to have going in a proper way in most issues this game had. But I'm still slighty annoyed at the gameplay trying to be combo and avoid-based, rather than going full tank ala Super. And, Samus is apparently meat to be 1.8 meters tall or something? We do we keep getting a kid? Or heels? I know Japanese society has some sexism issues going on, but Sci-Fi tends to be one of the genres were gender roles become nonexistant.

I love how you bring highlights to the good pieces of Other M. It exemplifies how being fair to this game still sums up to it being trash.

This game gets WAY too much hate.

Honestly, Anthony is unneeded and Adam is unneeded...this game canonically ruined Samus...Dread seems to be awesome...unfortunately still with Adam's AI...

17:07 could'nt agree more.

I'm not a metroid fan. Infact I barely know much about metroid except. Samus is the main character, ridley is a demon who killed samus parents, mother brain is the main villain, dark samus is a evil clone, dark samus is one of my mains in smash. Thats it. But even I just fricking hate adam

What I'd like to see is more integration of lore from the canonical manga(s). Edit: Also Samus finally going properly renegade.

@11:22 Shadow confirmed to be the Deleter

This is a great video. Only minor complaint is that you clearly have absolutely no clue how PTSD works. It's not a fear that can be conquered, it's a mental illness that stays with you. As a mental illness, it's inherently unpredictable, and like many others it can't really be cured. It can get better over time, but it'll always be there, waiting to strike again. It can be triggered by things you wouldn't expect, things that didn't affect you before.

I have a Video idea for you.top 10 best Video game villains of all time.

System Shock 2 did a Plot Twist like that of Madeline and MB, but worlds better.

27:48 No, he`s the only good character in the game.

things i like about other M Anthony Higgs (MVP) Samus interaction with Melissa Bergman (I also like her design) Lethal Strike / Overcharge / Counter Attack (really satisfying) & SenseMove (necessary for hard mode) Boss battle, Music (Mostly remix not much new) and the high quality presentation in general I adore young Samus design with her tomboyish hair; especially her concept-art with Ian and Anthony low key Little Birdy creepy-cute

all i wanted was for Samus to say " Adam. i have eradicated entire species and planets for less so dont give me any of your crap."

This game could've probably benefited by instead acting as an origin for how Samus became the respected bounty hunter. Moments like waiting for authorization or pissing herself at the sight of Ridley would be easier to swallow.

I thought the game was pretty fun, but I couldn't sit through a single cutscene without heavily cringing. The cutscenes were beautiful and very well done-but the voiceover...

31:06 Too bad Moviebob couldn't remember this when doing HIS overview of Other M.

To this day, I still don't understand the hate for this game. Personally, I thought it was okay for what it was and showed different sides to Samus besides being a "Cold Hearted Bounty Hunter Assassin". 🤔

I think one of the other things that bothered me about this game was the fact that Samus is supposed to be 6'2" and weigh 220 lbs. (not fat just built like a NFL linebacker) after being infused with Chozo DNA and training needed for using the suit. Why is she so damn short and skinny! Unless the men of this future are even more beefy and standing at 9 ft. tall, Samus is grossly misrepresented here.

It's funny that you mention Movieblob when he defended and liked Other M

people need to let other m go

what's up with all these TFS references?

SO I'm guessing we're all agreeing that the real villian of Other M, was the general who came up with this hair brained stupid plan.

Other M has some good parts, it’s not all bad, but it’s interesting… …

Adam Malkovinch and the baby

I disagree about the controls. The controls, music, story, and gameplay are all 1/10 here. The only thing that bumps the overall game up to 2/10 for me is because the graphics are good by Wii standards, it runs at 60fps, and the cinematics look nice. I give the graphics overall 7/10. This is the worst game I have EVER played that isn't either an asset flip or obviously unfinished (like Big Rigs). Although, I enjoy Big Rigs MUCH more than this game, because at least it has the "so bad it's good" thing going for it. Also, this game CANNOT happen in the same universe as Zero Mission, Super, any of the Prime games, or Fusion. It blatantly contradicts at least one major plot point of each of them.

I actually really enjoyed the game regardless of the negative redemption it gets, but I guess I'm the minority in that regard. I enjoy the more vocal narration of her character in this and I do understand others opinion on how her character acted in it. Though I do believe she should have been doing this her own way as she's been a loner since the first game. But I think they wanted to give her more well-roundedness in personality considering she knew them. If she was still at conflict with Adam and was more herself while conveying a small semblance of a soft side to her former commander while also staying in character, perhaps it could work. Just an opinion though.

Samus is supposed to be a badass. A cold hearted killer. Her mission is literally to go and kill things. And she has a social life, as we see from the endings in Zero Mission and Fusion. Also seems like a likable person from the endings in the orignal 2d games where she waves at the player. So to portray her as a emotional mess who needs to take antidepressants was a bad move.

I'm here now because I finally got to playing it and the gameplay is okay, forced Wii remote first person to use missiles and scanning is awful, and feels tacked on to be a Wii game. It's far too linear, I don't care about backtracking because "hold remote up and hold A" to refill missiles and health. So why bother looking for anything. Story is awful, it's like The 3rd Birthday (Parasite Eve 3) without sexualising kids, taking a well established strong character and turning them into a scared little girl for a pointless contradictory story.

In storytelling, there's a term called checoffs Gun in Act One, There's a gun on the wall in act three, the main characters defeat or kill the main bad guy with the gun. In this game there's a gun on the wall in act one but in the third act she's about to kill the bad guy but then the bad guy gets ran over by a truck.

“The nickname comes from the fact that the purpose of the signal is to draw attention” AS OPPOSED TO AN SOS WHO’S PURPOSE IS FOR NOBODY TO NOTICE?? It’s been over a decade and this line still makes me cringe right from the start. It foreshadows the sheer level of incompetence and stupidity that went into this abortion of a story.

And here I am, this being my favorite Metroid

I think that if they really needed samus to be given the power ups by Adam then instead they should have had M.B. hack into her suit and adam working from the control room ro get her functions back online. Oh and sdter his desth he leaves like a flash drive somewhere with an anti virus

Better "vague" than a complete pile of garbage. This guy single handed trashed the whole franchise with his incredible incompetence and ignorance.