Metroid Prime Remastered Review With Ex Retro Studios Developer(Jack Mathews) 

First video I've watched from this channel. It was really great. The resume of the person being interviewed speaks for itself, but the interviewer himself also was incredibly well prepared. Great stuff.

NOTE: Jack had some audio issues for the first minute which disappear after that. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Intro 01:14 - Metroid Prime Remastered Is How You Remember It 03:01 - Updates To The Audio/Gameplay Holding Up 04:15 - UI Fixes 05:12 - Trilogy Code Being Used For Remaster 05:52 - Mirror Reflection Removal/Physically Based Rendering 12:45 - Updated Artwork/Lights On The Orpheon 15:38 - Animation Rig For Metroid Prime Form 1 Boss 17:14 - Metroid Prime Hasn’t Been Replicated/Games Copying Metroid Primes Visors 19:00 - Jack & Kiwi Joke About Pitching An FPS With The Morph Ball Mechanic 20:00 - Space Pirate Morph Ball Lore/Morph Ball Makes No Sense Logically 21:20 - Original Team Being Puzzled Trying To Animate The Morph Ball 23:10 - Complexity Of Making The Morph Ball 25:00 - Why The Original Team SHOULD Be Credited 31:15 - Why The Thermal Visor In MPR Is Worse Than The Original Game 37:00 - Why Your Beams Don’t Light Up Rooms In MPR 44:20 - It Would’ve Been A Herculean Effort To Make The Game Run At 60FPS 47:00 - MPR Was Retro Proving They Have Still Got It/Setting The Stage For Metroid Prime 4 51:00 - Jack Falling For The Gravity Suit Trap 54:04 - Ramping Of Difficulty In The Phazon Mines Gauntlet 57:50 - Jack Wanted Checkpoints 59:30 - What Constitutes An HD Port, Remaster And Remake. 1:04:35 - Controller Options & Issues For MPR 1:09:33 - Hot Light Sticks In Phendrana Drifts 1:10:10 - Particle Effects Upgrades/Magmoor Caverns Looks Amazing Now 1:11:45 - Metroid Prime Biomes 1:14:45 - Patches Jack Wants Added To The Game 1:18:38 - Samus Character Model In The End Cutscene 1:22:35 - Why Samus’ Character Model Changed In Subsequent Games 1:23:40 - Jack Is Proud Of Everyone That Worked On The Game 1:25:00 - The Weirdness Of Not Marketing MPR/Repeat Of History Of Retro Being Underdogs Again 1:27:57 - We Are In A Renaissance Of Metroid Series 1:28:50 - Dread Vs Prime Remastered/Older 2D Metroids Have Aged 1:32:30 - Jack Plugs His Wifes New Cook Book

This was an amazing interview. The explanations for the thermal visor and dynamic lighting in particular really made me appreciate what they did in the original and what the new team had to do for the remaster. I also love that they addressed the Samus model and even addressed the Sakamoto games retconning her height. I really hope they stick to this model if they ever get to remastering Echoes.

Glad to hear I wasn't the only person who struggled with the new control scheme because of muscle memory. I know the new version is great, but those of us forged in the single joystick fire will never forget.

I loved this interview. This guy rules. He's such a seemingly great guy. That plug for his wife was the sweetest thing

GameCube vs. Switch: Yes, they kept Samus' ship clipping trough tree branches in the overworld landing sequence. Yes, they added a little hop to the animation before Samus jumps down a level during the final boss fight.

Hey Jack, don't know if you just forgot, or your code went places you never expected, but the reflection effect was in many more places than the mirror plates in the chozo ruins. It was also on every chunk of smooth ice and metal tunnel wall, with an embm distortion over it for the shape of the surface. It really stood out, not just because the reflections were cool, but because the model used was not animated, it was in that T pose just hilariously boppin around.... Until the player went into morph ball, the animation into, out of, and morph ball itself, any time the camera went 3rd person, were completely animated by the reflection model. This of course, goes out to every single person who worked on Metroid prime, but it's rare to really get to put a face and voice to something like this. Your code really wowed my socks off back in the day. I spent way way way too much time in front of every surface that could possibly be reflective to see if it showed up, and even longer when it did.

Oh I was really hoping for a follow up on the lighting system and how it could work on Metroid prime 2 since it's so heavenly based on lighting.

These interviews are just so good. Keep 'em coming!

Speaking on the ball. One of my favourite animations is if you transform mid air after a boost she somersaults before landing. I love it so much

It seems he has worked on the Shadow Of The Colossus remaster too. It's amazing: I wonder if they credited the original devs.

Im glad they mention Nintendo's distrust with this game and Retro, it's so strange because people have been begging for ports or remasters of the whole Trilogy almost from the start of the Switch's lifetime, and then when they finally do it they reveal it like it was a 3rd party game without any bells and whistles, barely with any advertising, it's llike they were ashamed of it almost, but at the end people know better because they have on their hands one of the most acclaimed games ever and sales charts will show that.

Legendary interview with a legendary person.

Still absorbed in this coverage but wanted to comment my thoughts real quick. I was sad by the reflection removal because to me it added personally to the game. We as the player saw Samus in front of us, it was truly something I won't ever forget. It gave me a reminder, 'oh yeah I'm playing as Samus' and not a floating arm canon in front of the camera etc. I'm actually suprised in the dev community y'all thought it was an error to begin with. To me and many others it was something small but very memorable. I'm excited to keep watching this video. Thanks so much.

Excellent interview, I learned tons about Prime. Shame that Nintendo didn't credit the original staff for the Remaster...

This is how you do interviews about games. Deeply detailed and technical as well.

In the control options, I swapped the button combo control for visor vs beams. I found it's usually more critical to have the various beams to your disposal quickly than visors.

I don't ever leave RU-vid comments, but I just wanted to say that the Metroid Prime series was a huge part of my childhood. I'm grateful for these interviews you've done with these incredible developers - it's just made me appreciate them more, so much to the point that I'm emulating Prime 1 with PrimeHack and it looks and feels fantastic 20 years later. Thanks again.

Great video as usual, and a big thanks for Jack Mattews for being so open and insightful. I watched your previous two interviews with him numerous time cause its just fun listening to him talk. Hopefully Mike Wikan will do a second video too to share his thoughts, I keep watching his first interview every now and then as well.

Found this channel a couple of months ago searching for metroid prime, has been a real goldmine. Almost all uploads have impeccable audio. The interviewer genuinely understands what he's doing. Now on to my opinion regarding the hypothetical competition between Metroid Dread and Metroid Prime: Metroid Prime resides in an entirely different realm of far superior games. Metroid Dread is a good game - which are not exactly the norm either. But I can only recall a total of five games with a similar awe inspiring gaming experience for me (including Metroid Prime).

What a amazing interview, very cool you got to interview him and contains a lot of goodies. Thanks and you got a sub!

Great video as usual, I love listening to these Retro guys talk!

Thank you for this awesome interview. This is the first video Ive watched from this channel. This was such a pleasure to watch and I main monitored the video the whole time. This game series was such an influence on my life growing up.

Yesss! Been waiting for this. Got my coffee! And ready to indulge. BTW, the reflection thing is weird because it reflects the room, but not Samus at all. And some of the old geometrical hit boxes are still in the game where you'd hit an invisible objects in mid air or can't jump over a small ledge under water. Weird stuff. Beam lights being shot down hallways was taken out of the wii version, not just on switch.

"Can you imagine a FPS where you turn into a ball and a bomb comes from your insides?" Overwatch: Hammond pitch meeting... 2016

@1:06:56 With the dual analogue stick controls, I did make the one change in the options to switch the missile button to Y instead of the R shoulder button. that also makes the visor shift button the shoulder button. It works so much better especially for doing super missiles.

What a privilege to have a former engineer from this remarkable game share his thoughts. Much appreciated 👍

Hey thanks for the interviews. Really fascinating stuff. Hope we get more 3d metroid-vanias one day

The cookbook ui design looks amazing.

23:50 the way the morph ball self rights was always fascinating to me and I always wanted to know more about it

I already loved the remaster but this made me appreciate the work so much more. Thanks for being on the show and teaching players about these things.

Excellent video! Metroid Prime was the first Metroid game I fully beat. Love the game and series. It’s my second fav game of all time. Thanks for all of the hard work you and Retro Studios placed in the series👍🏾

If you keep interviewing these guys I guess I'll keep coming back here Good stuff!

wow this was interesting and informative. Its always hard to get anything info from game devs that work on nintendo games.

The dynamic beam projectile lights are still in the game, they are just different, not as obvious as a huge slow moving vertex light sphere. The weird thing is when you go into dark areas, they put up this dark screen filter

Speaking of patches that need to be added, I hope Retro gives us input buffering since the original game had it but this one does not. That is why it takes so long to charge up multiple super missiles - having to fire 3 single power beam shots before every charge shot is a bad oversight. In the original game, you could buffer another charge shot right after firing one by just holding A again. It would make the entire combat system much cleaner.

Great video! 1st time seeing this now. I’ll say this, the split joy-con pointer controls is secretly the best way to play this game (though I’d like to see a patch where it won’t start to lose its calibration so frequently after using the control style for more than an hour). Swapping between beams and super missiles are a breeze. I’d like to see an option on the dual stick controller option where when you swap the beam/scan visor button to the R button it allows you then to swap beams with the right analog stick. Other than that and the credits, it’s the best looking Metroid/switch game still by a country mile!

I agree with the patches he would like to see (checkpoints & more generous hint system), I would also add a fast travel option between save stations, I've seen many people point it out and came to agree with them. All modern Metroidvanias have some sort of fast travel and its hard going back to one where you literally have to walk through the entire world, it can be very tedious. Let the player decide if he wants to backtrack and explore old areas or just get to the next destination quickly.

Thanks for this awesome video, wow ❤️

Great interview but I am fixated on that wall behind Jack.

Loving these interviews! Grew up playing this game as a kid, and these shed so much light on the design decisions that went into making it. ❤

Hope they Remaster the other 2 prime games someday.

@KIWI TALKZ Thank you very much for these great videos and for interviewing developers.❤❤❤ I love Metroid Prime so much and it is and always will be one of my favourite games of all time.😍❤ Love and Kudos to Retro Studios that they pulled off an impossible task to the this awesome franchise. I still love them for the whole game and all games afterwards and all the details. They blew my mind and they still do.❤ One question is on my mind though: How came the Game Over sequence in particular Metroid Prime 1 and 2 to life? What were in their minds to make these so creepy? I love them, don't get me wrong, but I always wanted to know how these came to be. Greetings from Max from Germany.😍❤❤❤😍😍😍

I was impressed when I first saw it but i was blown away when I saw how the original actually looked again by comparison. It's truly a remake

1:04:35 As someone who got used to gyro aiming via Splatoon, I'm so very glad that they gave us this option under twinstick controls. Unfortunately, it was *_so_* well hidden, that I thought it didn't exist. Somebody had to tell me about it.

20:00 Fun fact: Metroid does have other humanoid life forms that can transform into different small alternate forms akin to Samus's Morph Ball, meaning that it ain't exclusive to Samus to transform into unrealistic small alternate forms. Look no further than Metroid Prime Hunters. In Hunters, all the other 6 hunters use alternate forms akin to Samus's morph ball, with the one being just as unrealistic and physically impossible as Samus's Morph Ball being Sylux's Lockjaw. So I guess this means that yeah, Metroid's lore makes it apparent that some super combat suits and weird alien life forms got their small alternate forms ready for use. 51:00 That Gravity Suit trap I actually didn't fall for it the first time I played the game back on the GameCube, because I was reluctant and a bit afraid to enter the crashed Frigate Orpheon, so instead I went back to the Gunship, and later I received the Hint System notification to get the Gravity Suit. Once I got the Gravity Suit, now it told me to get through the Frigate Orpheon, which I eventually did, and it ended up being not as scary as I assumed it would be. I did one time in a future playthrough go through the Frigate Orpheon without the Gravity Suit just to see what would happen, and did get to the part that told me that I was missing the Gravity Suit. 54:04 I think that problem of people dying and redoing a lot of the Tallon Overworld/Phazon Mines playthrough happens because the Hint System does not tell you that there's a Save Station in the beginning of Phazon Mines (even in the original GameCube version this didn't happen). Normally when entering a new area you'd get the Hint System telling you that there's a Save Station near the beginning of the area, but in Phazon Mines that actually doesn't happen, the Hint System just tells you to immediately go to get the Power Bombs, which is probably why people skip the Save Station in the entrance of the Phazon Mines and end up dying and restarting all the way back to Tallon Overworld. 57:50 If Retro eventually adds a checkpoint system for the Metroid Prime remasters, I hope it is an optional toggle button in the Main Menu so that way newcomers can be relieved in not having to redo lots of progress that was lost after death, while purists can keep the games how they were (with no checkpoint system, just manual saves); cause me being a manual saves purist for the Metroid franchise means I don't want a checkpoint system in the Metroid games as having it would remove all the tension and urgency the games give you in only having manual save rooms to save the game, which was also the case with old school Resident Evil and Silent Hill games (the only Metroid game I allow checkpoints in is Metroid Dread because of that game being the hardest Metroid game ever made, so not having them in there would indeed be a bad design decision through and through). 1:28:50 The only 2D Metroid games I say have aged like milk and don't hold up at all in this day and age are Metroid (NES) and Metroid II: Return of Samus (Game Boy), which is why both games got remakes that massively fix and improve all the dated and archaic design elements of those two games. Super Metroid I say only needs a bit of tweaking with the controls to better make it stand the test of time, and that's it.

20:39 I remember that space pirate lore! It said something like the subjects became horribly disfigured will trying to emulate the morph ball, that made me laugh, I loved it!😂👍

I am so glad that I played Super Metroid before the GBA games and Dread. The game holds up very well, but it can be hard to return to after the control adjustments and improvements made in later titles. Which is why I'd recommend starting with it if you want to get into 2D Metroid in 2023.

He's right, the ship still clips into the leaf in the early cutscene of the ship landing.

Yes. The metroid prime boss room transition cutscene animation was updated. And is one of the few changes that looks great. Many of the animations were changed.

Wow what a legend thanks for everything Jack!

1:05:00 As far as I know the OG GameCube controller works using the Smash GC to USB Adapter. Have you tried it? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-G2xk-ShJek0.html

Thank you Jack for making the best video game ever.

18:50 DOOM 2016 does feel similar to Metroid Prime in the platforming and movement. I would love if Metroid Prime 4 takes some notes from DOOM as DOOM seems to from Metroid Prime

3:26 is there a clanging sound in the background which syncs up to what you're saying? or am i losing it

Gyro aiming mixed with dual stick is amazing.

1:14:28 I just compared two longplays of the original and the remastered versions, and both do indeed have show leaves clipping through the ship! It's less noticeable in the remastered version however.

I don't care if the developer says it's ok to remove the reflections form the game. Lots of us miss them a lot

I think that the "first person shooter" controls is having the unintended effect of emphasizing the wrong mentality about this game, whereas the original gamecube controls promoted the moniker "first person adventure" more than this version. It is suppose to have a slower, more methodical pace. So many people call this a first person shooter now. And they just wont "get" the focus on scanning, investigation and exploring. They just run past everything.

I’m curious as to why Jack left Retro and why he hasn’t returned for Prime4. My biggest concern with P4 has always been that so much of the staff from the original development is no longer with Retro.

Hey Kiwi Talks, this is amazing. One advice though. It would be much more enjoyable and would get many more views of you out more footage into the video. I know it’s a lot of work but for example he put specific examples and there is no reference. I think if you improve that production value you would hugely increase the size of the channel.

Will give this a listen later cheers.

I hope the fusion suit gets added back in

Haha just got out of the gravity suit trap!

There are still some dynamic lights, but they're selective. Like the Morphball casts dynamic lights most of the time, but there are a few areas where if you're paying attention you realize the Morphball no longer is casting a light. So the engine could clearly handle them, but they're strictly controlled and so having the ability to spam dynamic light sources all over the room with the blaster was a hard no go apparently. Especially with the need to preserve the sacred 60 fps. I had a feeling the change in geometry and mapping complexity was why they had to be cut, so it's nice to have that more or less confirmed by someone in the know. It's a loss certainly, but I'll take the gorgeous visuals and rock solid FPS over one more shiny effect, so I agree this was the right choice. Edit: The leaves in front of the tunnel in the Chozo ruins never vanished in the original, even in Xray as far as I recall. That little tunnel was the very last secret I found in the game and the only one I had to use a walkthrough to find, because I kept walking past the leaves with Xray and thermal on and never saw it. It's actually easier to see the tunnel in the remaster. Also, Super Metroid still controls immaculately, and I play it like once a year. It's tied with Prime for my favorite Metroid of all time.

I will say that the second riddick game definitely takes the story beats to heart from this game.. which is just kind of made me appreciate both even more.

I actually like the right trigger and right bumper for super missiles. It makes it very easy to use once you accept that your fingers will be in a “non standard” position on the controller. Not to mention, it makes missile spamming soooo much easier; in the original it actually required some skill, now it’s as simple as pressing the right trigger and right bumper one after the other in quick succession

so that reflection in the chozo ruins mirror thing wasn't supposed to be there in the first place😆 It was kinda of mind blowing spot as I still remember it even after all this years🙃

1:18:00 Yep, I remember this. The leaves did go away.

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The string lights on the Orpheon: These didn't communicate as bulbs or string lights AT ALL...to me. They just seem like futuristic nodes or components I don't understand. The original and the remaster depict a vessel beyond our imagining....why would anyone even THINK bulbs on a string in space for no reason? They might be sensors, energy cables, nodes, who knows? Their presence has the same logic as a basic glowy line except they now seem like there's more to them and they're more tech-organic...perfect Space Pirate tech design. The Morph Ball's logic (now/before/acquisition): The Power Suit has always been a magic tech suit - technology so beyond it's practically magic. The beam and bomb weapons alone.....she's a walking energy conversion unit. The design of the Morph Ball in Prime...more thany any other...communicates that she is changed in the state. She's not rolling up, she's not shifting limbs or pulling a Sonic...she's converted into some form of energy. Think Star Trek transporters. As a kid who zoomed in on the ball often in the menu and saw the swirling energy sphere in there this idea seemed as natural as "ice freezes Metroid." The Power Suit has been tied to Samus' state of mind and her biology....since Super I think - the series has established it uses technology on theoretical physics level of sci-fi for a while now. Once she is converted to a form of energy, or even matter, that can be displaced in a far smaller arrangement...then there's the mystery of the suit around it! All the plating reduces to a nearly hollow sphere! Mystery 2: the old Transformers mystery. Once you've achieved mystery 1, however, mystery 2 is a cake walk. Thermal Visor: Never understood the issue with this. I think the blur and low frames serve it fine. I never had a problem with it...you look at the gloweys....that's the point and that works fine. X-ray leaves: Tiny detail is right, but....the leaves shouldn't disappear because they're really there and then we'd have to vanish all leaves. The X-ray puzzle in that room calls out the platform, and the sound design and the gaps in the leaf wall takes care of the rest. Samus' look: Jack is right....every game since Fusion has made Samus a bleach-blonde Barbie doll. Prime 1 was the last game where she had more natural beauty and maturity to her. Dread toned down the pumps on her feet (there should be....none. see Zero Mission boots) and gave her some actual muscle, but the Barbie look remains.

Zero Mission was the first of the actually consistent zero suit designs. Prior to that, Samus looked different in every game ending

I knew they were using PBR materials, few games use it on switch, I know the Witcher 3 and Warframe use it as well.

About the controls schemes, I think the original one is better because overall the game was built with it in mind. There is the lock of course. I didn't use the dual stick controls.

Why is it only showing up to me now? Anyway, I could listen to those guys every week

Many thanks to Jack Mathews for giving this interview and providing specific comments on the technical aspects of the original game and the remaster. Not less importantly, massive kudos to Kiwi Talkz for reaching Mathews, organizing the interview and posing competent questions. Nowadays game journalism websites and most of the gaming channels provide only opinions and biased pseudo-news that just speaking with a developer about actual design and technical knowledge they accumulated and employed is a rarity.

I dont know... When it comes to this reflection I actually prefer what they did. You instead get a beautiful reflection of the surrounding room. Instead of a few places in the game, it is apparent in so many more locations in the game. The lighting and water physics are definitely different but the overall game looks insane. Totally comparable to even current gen experiences. I feel like Bioshock is the only game to take real inspiration from Metroid Prime.

I had the same problem with gravity suit, tho i was too dumb to open the first door you need the thermal visor for. So i got back out and ran clueless around till i got the hint 😅

Personally never understood the artifact hunt issue. Unlike Prime 2, you can get most of them before endgame. Like, the only ones you can’t really nab before it are the ones that need the phazon suit, and that’s like what…2? It might suck to a first time player, but it’s something that improves with memorization. Prime 2’s Key hunt however….man, I sure do love having to revisit every area of the game, just to have to run in and out of various dark world sections (with a load screen every single time) for damn near every key all because I can’t get most of them without the light suit. If it ain’t the poisonous dark Aether water, it’s the rooms filled with the environmental hazard that only the light suit is immune to.

I found the explanation of the thermal visor quite interesting, because I did find that initial run in the dark to be one of the weaker parts of the remaster. The thermal vision blurs up the game quite a lot so using it for extended periods isn't that fun

It must be a weird yet cool feeling having worked on a remaster like Shadow of the Colossus and then seeing one of your games that you helped create get the same treatment. Incredible insight from Jack, as always!

Does he mention why they added the burst fire before the charge beam starts charging? It's the only thing i hate

Honestly I wish the original creators would come together independently and make an original IP (indie, crowd funded). They truly are genius in terms of knowing what they know and explaining what and how they do game design and gameplay mechanics.

The way the DA set up handles beam and visor switching in remastered is entirely unintuitive and I don’t know why they did it with holding X rather than using the stick buttons or one of the shoulders. The reason why I say it’s unintuitive is because holding X means your thumb is leaving the right stick or you’re clawing it. Would have been easier to say…press in right stick, then move it in a direction to swap ala the Wii pointer swap. Honestly, I wish remastered’s DA scheme had a custom control option. It’s not an old thing, it’s a bad design thing. Other parts of the DA set up are fine. For example, I was completely adjusted to the shoulder jump because I’ve been using Bumper Jumper in Halo since like 2008.

Can we get a video where they talk about how to get in game designing indie or how to start learning game design for hobbyists?

Hi Kiwi, would you consider interviewing either Noah Copeland (Sonic triple Trouble 16 Bit) or Thomas Happ (Axiom Verge)?

“ it looks good how I remember even though it wasn’t that good before” bingo just my thoughts.

Metroid Prime is master class in game design and the remaster done exactly what it needed.

1:07:00 that's when I actually customized the controls to put missiles on X, I found the game played a lot better that way 1:17:09 Dammit man it's right there in the menu!

idea: flash shift would go crazy in a 3d Metroid (prime 4), i wonder how fun that would be? only thing is about that is it may inhance combat, but at the same time im worried it might make ppl sick

The “pacing and patience” of the first prime being as good as they are is why it’s my most revisited of them. Prime is straight to the point starting At it’s tutorial and doesn’t ever really waste the player’s time. At no point does the game feel like it’s slogging

Loved this remake. Only complaints are shooting super missiles, and the bloody map controls being reversed from normal movement, so frustrating. Nintendo seems to do that a lot, making button positions or controls reversed from what seems natural and worse, having no ability to change them in options. But the game is great overall, missed it on GameCube and I'm loving it now. Big thumbs up. Hope prime 4 feels faster in terms of movement. Noticed a big speed difference from playing dread to prime 1. I am excited lol

Is it just me or did they get rid of the lighting effect on the shots fired? The "bullets" used to create a light reflection/bounce off the walls.

11:27 Something about taking code from Unreal and putting into RUDE that people should keep in mind: The end user agreement for Unreal says that you can't copy the code from UE and put on your own Engine as it's copyrighted, This was Exactly the reason Silicon Knights lost in court with Too Human if anyone remembers that case. I Also need to mention that Most of these tech advancements like PBR are made by companhies like Disney(Pixar) or universities, then open sourced or divulged without any copyright after their research is done(just like scientific papers), that's why so many companhies can use and implement PBR today on their softwares and also why it's a standard in the industry.

I hope Echoes gets the same treatment. I can live without Corruption.

running remaster emulated at 4k fixes the thermal visor because higher resolution. lol this guys is great. shame nintendont respect past talent.

I thought they were like LIGHT BARS or Fiber optic type lighting for the original. Cant say i like or dislike adding bulbs

I have no idea why people have such a problem with the new thermal visor, I found that to be one of the coolest changes, cause it looks exactly like a real world infrared camera and its a lot more realistic that way. Its very reminiscent to the POV shots from the old Predator movies.

19:13 😂😂😂

I think at the very least Metroid Prime is a partial remake. With a remaster, you are remastering what is already there. Metroid Prime makes a lot of use of the GC original as a base, but a lot of things are also remade, so it has one foot on either side of the fence.