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Meze Audio Empyrean Headphone Review - The New Standard 

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EMPYREAN TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS
Driver Type: Rinaro Isodynamic Hybrid Array
Operating Principle: Open
Ear Coupling: Circumaural
Frequency Response: 4 - 110,000 Hz
Impedance: 31.6 Ω
Nominal SPL: 100 dB (1 mW / 1 kHz)
Maximum SPL: over 130 dB
Total Harmonic Distortion (THD): less than 0.1%
Weight: ~ 430 g
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Desktop Sources
Playback software: Roon roonlabs.com/r...
Primary DAC: Chord Hugo TT2 tinyurl.com/y4... with Chord M-Scaler tinyurl.com/y6...
Secondary DAC for active speakers: Topping D50s amzn.to/2T2GExr upgraded with Muses02 op-amp amzn.to/2FtPmNj
USB cables: AudioQuest Diamond amzn.to/35AX4Qf and AudioQuest Coffee amzn.to/3059qiA
Active Speakers
Bang & Olufsen BeoLab 3 Speakers
Amps
Massdrop x THX AAA 789 Amplifier massdrop.7eer....
Bottlehead Mainline DIY kit tube amplifier bottlehead.com...
Burson Audio FUN: www.bursonaudi... with Sparkos Labs SS3601 op-amps: sparkoslabs.co...
Headphones
Open: Meze Audio Empyrean tinyurl.com/y6...
Open: Focal Clear amzn.to/37Ihgky
Semi-open: Beyerdynamic DT880 Premium LE massdrop.7eer.net/L6633 or amzn.to/3bBg7xs
Closed: AudioQuest NightOwl Carbon (these may have been discontinued)
Closed: Audio Technica ATH-M50x amzn.to/2Y2NeXo
Closed: Meze Audio 99 Neo tinyurl.com/y2...
Portable
Phone: Samsung Galaxy S10+ amzn.to/37MzTUA
DAC for phone: Audioquest Dragonfly Cobalt amzn.to/36AzpAB
Digital audio player: Astell & Kern AK240 Stainless Steel amzn.to/2ZluP70
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Audiofly AF1120 Mk2: amzn.to/2ZoTuHZ
Noble Kaiser 10 custom IEM (discontinued) - universal version available via Drop massdrop.7eer....
SIMGOT EN700 PRO amzn.to/304xO3R
Shozy Form 1.4 amzn.to/3cIL0Az or massdrop.7eer.net/499YL
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@thestefsterbun1820
@thestefsterbun1820 4 года назад
Best review of these headphones I have watched. Well done.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Thank you!
@donknox3798
@donknox3798 4 года назад
You are absolutely one of best hifi reviewers I've ever watched and listened to. Your delivery, cadence and tone are excellent and made it easy to finish your detailed 26 min review. Oh...and I really want to add the Emperyean to my headphone collection.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Thanks so much, Don!! I'm glad you found the review helpful and watchable. I can't recommend the Empys enough - it's a big price tag, but they are absolutely end-game headphones and I haven't been able to say that for any of the many, many headphones I've owned / auditioned in the past.
@soulfulfool
@soulfulfool 2 года назад
@@PassionforSound I'm torn between Empyrean and Atrium, love planar sound but ZMF got good reviews and are so beautiful
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 2 года назад
It's a tough call - both are excellent. The Empys can be more fun and might be technically slightly stronger than the Atriums for things like detail retrieval, but the Atriums are more neutral so it would depend on your needs/preferences
@drharsha3376
@drharsha3376 4 года назад
Love your Videos Mr.Fennen. I've been following you since the Nighthawk days, as a matter of fact, I purchased and immensely enjoyed the Nighthawks based on your strong recommendation. Thank you for such a wonderful, immaculate review, probably the best one online for the Empyreans. -- Best Regards from India
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Thank you!
@carminedesanto6746
@carminedesanto6746 Год назад
Time traveling in RU-vid ..I had a chance to try Emps’…they ruined me …and I’m working on one day having them . Great review. Thanks.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound Год назад
So glad you got to try them! Hope the savings come fast and easy so you can get them soon
@musicxxa6678
@musicxxa6678 4 года назад
Their tonality looks very nice. Slightly elevated below 1k, slightly recessed above 1k but the frequency response is smooth all the way and follows the harman target. They are also probably the best build headphone out there with top notch comfort. 3000$ is too much but i would probably buy these if i were in the market at that price point. Abyss 1266 review would be nice from you if you can.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
I'll see what I can do. I haven't yet had the chance to try any Abyss headphones so I'd like to
@marcfoss7687
@marcfoss7687 3 года назад
Phenomenally useful review, thank you very much!
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
You're most welcome. Glad it was helpful 🙂🙂
@rossfletcher2724
@rossfletcher2724 3 года назад
Hi PFS, Having now bought a pair, I have to say your recommendations towards the end of the your review are absolutely correct. For classical music these are ideal. Small groups have great separation and the piano sound these produce is completely convincing. By comparison the T1s sound too bright. The comfort level, particularly if you wear glasses is unequalled in my view.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Hi Ross, so glad you're enjoying them! I have still not found another headphone that's as completely enjoyable across all genres. Some headphones do this or that a bit better, but nothing has the whole package covered yet for me the way the Empyreans do. Happy listening!
@rossfletcher2724
@rossfletcher2724 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound Hi again, Just asking of the headphone amps you used in your review, which do you think worked the best. Appreciating that the Empyreans are warm sounding, the Class A (Talisman T 33-H) headphone amp I'm using rather overdoes the warmth. An comments ? A Burson perhaps
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Hi Ross, the Burson Soloist is a great choice. I actually can't think of anything else I would recommend higher than that at this stage.
@georgek2348
@georgek2348 4 года назад
This was indeed one of the very best audio reviews I've ever watched. Outstanding! Question: I purchased an Astell&Kern "KANN CUBE" a few days ago and currently pairing it with my Sennheiser HD650s in balanced mode. The overall musicality is off the charts... but, for me the 650s are uncomfortable and I need to get a new pair of headphones that will easily check the "comfort" box. So I want to purchase a pair of the Empyrean headphones... but how do you think they will pair with the KANN CUBE? Thank you...
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Hi George, thanks for the compliment. I think the Empyreans will work beautifully with the Kann Cube. If it can drive the HD650s well, it should be plenty powerful enough for the Empyreans. You're in for a treat!
@bak2mb
@bak2mb 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound Hi..u think it will pair well with the AK SP2000 Copper...thanks
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
No reason why not. They're pretty easy to drive and the AK units sound fantastic so should be a great match. (I use AK240 Stainless)
@adeadcrab
@adeadcrab 4 года назад
i'm convinced
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
They make a compelling case all by themselves 🙂
@russb3n
@russb3n 4 года назад
Best video to date describing the Empyrean outstanding job.. I have many headphones Utopia, Z1R, HD 800 and the Empyrean and with the Empyrean you get great impact, perfect soundstage and detail retrieval. I like that you can play them very loud and you do not lose anything by doing so everything is still there with NO FATIGUE at all for instant a song from System of the Down "Chop Suey" no problem crank it up and for the first time you can hear the detail of the song without any fatigue. And I think the number one best feature from the Empyrean is that it can play all music genres very well and even poorly recorded 80's stuff if I tried with the Utopia's my ears would bleed. instagram.com/p/B72RfTXJ9M0/
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Thanks for the comments. Your description is exactly what I've experienced too - the Empys are amazingly versatile!
@spartanV48
@spartanV48 4 года назад
Just curious, what is the difference between the Z1R and Empyrean? And do you like it? I heard the Empyrean once and I loved it, but now willing to spend the money for it right now, so I am interesting in the Z1R.
@robertnoblitt518
@robertnoblitt518 3 года назад
@@spartanV48 I tried the Sony Z1R, but was very disappointed and sent them back. I could not take the peaky treble, and thought the bass was poorly controlled. Nowhere near the quality of the Empyrean.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing your experiences, Robert. I'm yet to hear the Z1R because reviews I've read put me off it for the reasons you've described.
@robertnoblitt518
@robertnoblitt518 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound The InnerFidelity review from 2017 exactly describes what is wrong with the Z1R. My Sony MDR-1AM2 headphones are much better than the Z1R for a fraction of the price.
@gbarrows04
@gbarrows04 3 года назад
Hey man. I'm late to this so I hope you can help. I'm interested in these cans but I've got a question for you about them so I can maybe get closer to buying them. How big was the sound difference when they were plugged into an amp vs without one?
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Hi Gavin, a headphone like this needs a top quality source to really shine. Buying them to use without a proper headphone amp is like buying a Ferrari to drive to the local shops. It will work, but you'll never enjoy what it's capable of. So, to answer your question, the difference is huge when using these with a good DAC and amp versus an output from a phone, computer or even most hifi receivers where there's a headphone output thrown in as a convenience.
@JasonDkiran
@JasonDkiran 3 года назад
Have you listened to the Abyss 1266? I wonder how these compete with them?
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
I haven't yet, Jason, but I hope to
@Smood47
@Smood47 3 года назад
20:00 interesting that you find empyrean neutral because vast majority of people who hear empyrean find it quite warm
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Yes, I think I acknowledged that. It's a weird thing about the audiophile world. Somewhere we've decided what neutral sounds like, but to me that "neutral" sound is actually lean with a treble lift. When I listen to gear, my reference point is always live music and while the Empys probably tend slightly warm compared to a live gig, I find them closer than many "reference" headphones.
@Smood47
@Smood47 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound Have you hears susvara or abyss tc?
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Not yet, but I hope to
@drvikramgg
@drvikramgg 2 года назад
Is it wireless,or we need to use it with a amplifier
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 2 года назад
It's a wired headphone for use with an amp 🙂
@drvikramgg
@drvikramgg 2 года назад
@@PassionforSound thank you and which amplifier will u suggest
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 2 года назад
I like the Burson Soloist 3XP as a minimum level of performance for the Empyreans, but the Hugo TT2, Sparkos Labs Aries and Burson Soloist 3 GT are all even better. There are other great amps too, but the key is to get a discrete design (not using chip op-amps) and to allow a budget of $1000+
@mrawesome6239
@mrawesome6239 3 года назад
When the standard costs more than your car
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Yes, that's true in some cases (depending on your car) 😉
@bunozen1
@bunozen1 4 года назад
I dislike aluminum mag drivers, way too metallic and just too much distortion and gives that ear ringing fatigue after listening to, so never again for me. My latest hps that I just can’t believe how beautiful it sounds is the Audio Technica ATH-ADX5000, hands down one of the most delightful surprise I ever had. I really wasn’t expecting this thing to shine like it does. I never thought that I needed a second pair of the utopias, this one I started to think. The ADX5000 sounds Special, never heard highs like now. I always loved the highs from my Denon D7000 with thicker pads, but now the Audio Technica is beating up one too many hps in my collection. If you have a chance to hear it , you will be overly impressed, like I am feeling right now.... the Empyrean is way too bulky for me, it won’t work well while sitting on my recliner....oh well.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing about the ATs - I'll have to see if I can try a pair. It's interesting what you say about the metal drivers as I've often felt the same, but theory would suggest that a rigid driver should create less distortion and better reproduce the original waveform. Back in the days that I also used speakers, I always preferred cloth tweeters to metal tweeters despite that theory.
@adyadelyn2007
@adyadelyn2007 4 года назад
Have you tried them before complaining?I'm not saying ADX00 are bad but comparing with Meze is a joke! When you buy Meze you are expecting a whole package in the price: high quality, top sound, inovation etc. I'm sick paying for plastic and same old design. For me Meze are the end of the road. Looking foward to see their next project! Peace!
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
I agree about the Empyreans being end of the road. They are about as perfect a headphone as I can imagine.
@flhong
@flhong 2 года назад
Price is still the factor. Not worth it
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 2 года назад
That's always going to be a personal and subjective call which everyone had the right to make for themselves 🙂
@praisekek6634
@praisekek6634 4 года назад
I love listening to Empy reviews on my Empyreans :)
@keithbertschin1213
@keithbertschin1213 3 года назад
Just ordered a pair. I’ve never heard so many reviewers say this is the best headphone they’ve ever heard!
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Great news, Keith! Hope you love them as much as I do. You'll hear some people say they're not worth the money, but the beauty of the Empys is overlooked by people measuring sound quality by perceived (in-your-face) detail I think. Their ability to provide all the details, but in such as organic and relaxed (not thick or sloppy) way is constantly enjoyable for me.
@ohnonate
@ohnonate 3 года назад
Hi Keith, Curious what you have these headphones connected to? Also how are you finding them ?
@Nordraw
@Nordraw 2 года назад
@@PassionforSound Not worth the money is a no brainer dude.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 2 года назад
Not sure what you're saying exactly, Nor.
@trgtheredstoneguy3990
@trgtheredstoneguy3990 2 года назад
@@Nordraw ???
@atoz6552
@atoz6552 4 года назад
I love the way you described how it sounds. You went farther than all other video reviews I've watched. I too would love you to compare the Meze with the Arya
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Thank you. I'll see what I can do!
@EnriqueHernandez-zk7qc
@EnriqueHernandez-zk7qc 4 года назад
@@PassionforSound That was seven months ago. Any plans for Arya?
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Hi Enrique, it's still on the cards, but I'm totally swamped at the moment. In terms of headphones alone I have Sundaras, HE4xx, Beyer T1 & T5, and HD6xx to review!! Hopefully i can get to the Anandas at some point, but it depends on what I can pick up second hand (and afford) or what manufacturers and retailers will lend (which is generally based on new products or products they want to boost)
@johnsoriano3812
@johnsoriano3812 4 года назад
i agree
@N02tradamus
@N02tradamus 3 года назад
@@EnriqueHernandez-zk7qc I can let you know by next week. I ordered some Empyreans and I already own the Arya. I find the Arya to be too harsh in the treble.
@DarkPa1adin
@DarkPa1adin 4 года назад
For once I thought Johnny Ive is doing audio review. Lol
@rossfletcher2724
@rossfletcher2724 3 года назад
My investigation of the Empyrean has included a variety of reviews but I have to say I find yours compelling in its straight talk without hyperbole. The "faults"others have found proves there is no such thing as a the perfect headphone. For me, the sound is No 1 and your extensive discussion of this aspect is most informative. I'm currently using some first gen T1s. I'm expecting big things from the Empyreans when I get to hear a pair
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Hi Ross, so glad you found my review helpful! Having owned the original T1s for many years (but no longer) I'd say you're going to be pretty impressed. If you think to drop back and let me know your thoughts on the Empyreans, I'd love to read them 🙂
@rossfletcher2724
@rossfletcher2724 2 года назад
Hi Lachlan, Sixteen months on the Empyreans had been giving excellent sound - until suddenly one side died. When I took it back to my dealer and checked back a week or two later I was amazed to hear they'd been returned to Meze in Romania. They are now back and working perfectly as before. Both drivers had been replaced and tweaked to match. No charge. Twenty four months guarantee from purchase and they mean it
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 2 года назад
That's so good to hear that they took great care of you! Glad you're still loving your Empys 🙂
@robertnoblitt518
@robertnoblitt518 4 года назад
Thanks for a great review. I also have the Empyrean and it is my favorite headphone. I mainly listen to classical, opera, and jazz, but far prefer the leather pads. I really don't like the sound of the velour pads at all. A worthwhile upgrade is the Meze copper upgrade cable for the Empyrean. They also have a silver coated cable, but it sounds too bright to me. I once auditioned a Focal Clear at a local shop, but found the treble harsh and fatiguing. The only Focal I like is the Stellia, which I also own. The Stellia is closed-back, and almost neutral with just a bit of extra treble. My second favorite headphone is the Dan Clark Ether 2, which is perhaps even more neutral than the Empyrean, and costs $1,000 less. Often, I prefer the Ether 2 depending on the music. For those who would like to own the Empyrean, but can't afford the price, the Ether 2 is a less costly alternative.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing your experiences, Robert - they're very helpful. I've looked at the Meze upgrade cables and wondered how they might sound. The Clear definitely can sound a bit edgy depending on the source you're feeding it with. I'm yet to try the Ether 2 in a suitable (non-expo) environment, but your description has me very interested.
@Martijn1234
@Martijn1234 3 года назад
I have my Stellia's on eBay since I bought the Empyrean's and I'll not be going back. I found the Stellia's a bit too trebly for me, although I can EQ that out in Roon and they are technically excellent headphones. Very good with the type of music you mention - especially vocals - and very comfortable too. I am considering the Copper Upgrade Cables rather than the Silver for the Empyrean as I am also concerned the silver might be a bit bright. Your comment may have saved me a few hundred £ so thanks :)
@robertnoblitt518
@robertnoblitt518 3 года назад
@@Martijn1234 I gave my Stellia to a friend. He likes them, but I eventually found the sound too metallic and bright. Don't hesitate to get the copper upgrade cable for the Empyrean. The Empyrean is still my favorite headphone, and the Ether 2 is a close second.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
I'm yet to try the Ether 2, Robert. And, Martin, I definitely would go for the copper cable from Meze or contact Geoff at Aurealis Audio about his copper litz cables. It's what I use and it's magnificent!
@Martijn1234
@Martijn1234 3 года назад
Thanks Robert the copper cable should arrive tomorrow as I took the plunge at the weekend. Not bad Romania to UK in one day. Looking forward to that.
@williemckinney2168
@williemckinney2168 3 года назад
Way out of my league, watching this video reminds me of when I was a small child and looking in the Sears catalog saying to myself " Oooo! I want that!
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Haha. You never know what might happen in the future...
@williemckinney2168
@williemckinney2168 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound lol, you got that right! Have a great day!
@MaZEEZaM
@MaZEEZaM 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound Haha, you need to win the lottery to afford these. Still, it’s nice to know what’s possible.
@heyguyslolGAMING
@heyguyslolGAMING 3 года назад
Just put my kidneys and gallbladder (stones included) up for sale on the black market. I should be able to pick up a pair of these very soon.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
It's like that, isn't it?
@snowrang3r657
@snowrang3r657 4 года назад
I think Empyrean really provides a compelling package, the build and comfort is top notch. The price is high but when you consider the whole picture it makes it worth it. I do think for raw detail though the Hifiman Arya and the ZMF Vérité can compete or even challenge them though.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
I'm really interested to try the Aryas after a few comments on here comparing them to the Empys. There's no doubt it's a big stretch for most people's budgets to buy a pair of Empys, but as you said, the build, comfort, and sound combine to a compelling argument.
@snowrang3r657
@snowrang3r657 4 года назад
@@PassionforSound From what I've read the Arya were actually originally supposed to be a collaboration with Drop (formerly Massdrop), they were going to be called the HE1000x (there's even pictures out there of the HE1000x that look just like the Arya). But it comes down to is they're similar to the HE1000 line but in cheaper clothing, but people that have actually tried both prefer the Arya. Sure it's plastic instead of metal and wood but that makes it lighter, that and the headband is softer and conforms to your head better (thus better weight distribution). So comfort wise and price/performance wise the Arya hit a sweet spot.
@yoramdiamand
@yoramdiamand 3 года назад
Some people say to make the Empyreans shine they need a good after market cable, lots of silver. I bought a pair of Empyreans, and will go for the silver cable.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Hi Yoram, I found excellent results using copper litz cable. It maintains the tonal character of the headphone but brings out more detail and transparency.
@yoramdiamand
@yoramdiamand 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound I once used the Forza Noir litz cable. But my aim now is pure silver litz www.lavricables.com/cables/grand-20-core-silver-meze-empyrean-upgrade-cable/
@gramblor1
@gramblor1 4 года назад
Nice review! Like other commentators, I'd like to know how you think these compare to the Arya. Also, I recently bought the Focal Elex from Massdrop and would like to know how you think they compare to the Clear.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
I've contemplated buying the Elex to compare, but need to wait till I have some spare cash ☹️
@curlmythic
@curlmythic 3 года назад
Hi Lachlan, just wondering what your thoughts on the Empyrean's layering and stage? GoldenSound brings up lack of layering and issues with drum impact and acoustic music in general. I'm considering them, but I'm not in a location where I can demo them so any thoughts you may have are appreciated. For reference, "Meze Empyrean Review - The most beautiful headphone you probably shouldn't buy" GoldenSound.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Hi Heath, I watched that a while back and don't completely agree with him. The Empyreans aren't the perfect headphone technically, but they're very, very good. It felt to me like Golden had a preset idea about the Empys before the review because he mentions other headphones that do better, but never actually says what those headphones are. The Empys have a bass-lifted response that's fairly flat from about 200Hz. That means they'll provide excellent weight and presence in the bass at all frequencies. If you compare them to a headphone like the Utopia, the Utopia has a mid bass bump and then rolls off down low. That makes them sound punchy on drums, but the drums also lack substance and weight due to the bass roll-off. Personally, I find that the Empyreans sound better on drums than headphones like the Utopia that use a mid bass boost for punch. As for layering, the Empys aren't class leading, but they are exceptional as a headphone in general. If you compare to the Susvara, they can't match them, but they're better than anything else I've heard in lower price brackets. I've heard almost every major brand's top end headphones, including now the Meze Elite and the Empyreans still remain one of my favourite all around headphones. Only the Elite has bested them for me as a headphone that can be enjoyable and engaging while also providing great imaging, soundstage, detail retrieval (more mid than treble-focussed) and tonal accuracy. If I had to pick a weak spot, it would actually be tonal accuracy in the mid-bass where the bass shelf is a little too close to the midrange and can slightly over thicken the mids, but it's very minor and only noticeable with direct comparisons
@curlmythic
@curlmythic 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound Sounds like my kind of headphone. Cheers.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
My pleasure
@petererk8064
@petererk8064 4 года назад
Have to echo every one else's comments. Meticulous, beautifully done review at a level of quality matching the Empyrean itself. Loved watching it on my newly arrived Empyrean and just subscribed! Not sure if I ever saw any of your old videos but this new set-up seems great to me.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Thanks Peter!!!
@ocramidajzj
@ocramidajzj 3 года назад
Just picked up the Empyrean and have to agree with you. At first I was a bit underwhelmed, but after I relaxed and just let the music play I found the headphones simply revealed the music. You're also correct that it's hard to describe them without going into hyperbole. The best compliment I can give the Mezes is that I'm finding it's hard to stop listening and I look forward to my next opportunity to listen. Using Woo Audio WA11 with an LG phone as source and FLAC files. Compared to my Audezes these just sound right. BTW, I did not see any info on the headphone stand you're using for the Mezes.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
So glad you're enjoying them, Ocram. The headphone stand is a Firestone Audio one, but I don't think it's available anymore ☹️
@poker2341
@poker2341 3 года назад
Beautiful review, thanks. The headphone stand on you desk looks like a pretty ideal coupling for the Empyreans. Could you provide the make and model, please?
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Hi Jeppe, yes it's a great stand. It's known as either the Fire S Audio or Firestone Audio headphone stand, but it's not available anywhere that I can see :( Here's a link to Amazon so you can see some details: amzn.to/3qNuF4D
@poker2341
@poker2341 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound Many thanks for this. By the way, I did a comparison between the Clear and Empyrean myself a couple of weeks ago, and I agree with your observations. My conclusion is that the Clear is - and sounds like - a very competent headphone. The Empyrean sounds much more like music.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing, Jeppe. It's always nice to get confirmation that other people are hearing what I'm hearing! 🙂
@04yellowjacket
@04yellowjacket 4 года назад
Great review on these. I look to try them soon. I agree with EVERYTHING you said about the Focal Clear, I own them and they are definitely worthy of flagship status.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Thanks yellowjacket. I think you'll really enjoy the Empyreans. They're quite different from the Clears, but they're truly excellent headphones
@georgevintila7522
@georgevintila7522 4 года назад
Made in ROMANIA😎😎😎😎😎
@theyruinedyoutubeagain
@theyruinedyoutubeagain 4 года назад
Asa se pare :)
@dmarcus1260
@dmarcus1260 4 года назад
I'm very curious about the Empyreans but the price and the fact that you like the NightHawks and the NightOwl Carbons is somewhat of a red flag. Try as I might the NightHawks/NightOwl Carbons didn't do it for me. I burned them in for the recommended 150 hours but I found that did little, if any, to change the sound signature. As I recall Metal571 pointed out their tuning was way off with too much emphasis in the upper bass and lower mids. That's what I thought too but of course that's subjective. As you have pointed out; we all hear and listen to music differently. Regardless I think you are one of the best reviewers on RU-vid.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
The Empyreans and NightOwls/Hawks are vastly different, even though I enjoy both. The magic of the Empyreans is their ability to provide richness across the entire mid-through-bass registers without emphasising anything specific like the AudioQuest headphones. It's obviously still a big amount to spend, but don't be put off by some of my other preferences as the Empys are nothing like them. What other headphones do you enjoy?
@dmarcus1260
@dmarcus1260 4 года назад
@@PassionforSound In terms of high end headphones I own, the Clears and the Aryas are the most enjoyable. My least favorite are the HD 800S and the Ether Flows.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
I reckon you'll like the Empys then as the Clears are still my non-Empy favourite (i.e. we have some common taste). I've also just picked up a pair of HD800S and still don't like them either
@dmarcus1260
@dmarcus1260 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound Will the Meze Elites dethrone the Empyreans to be your new standard headphone? That's what I want to know. I might pull the trigger on the Elites if they prove to not be as overly warm/lush as the Empys.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
I'm definitely expecting a less warm headphone, but I hope they haven't taken it too far from the fun of the original. I hope to have a review pair soon and will prioritise it in the queue when I get them so stay tuned 😉
@tommygun6866
@tommygun6866 2 года назад
Hey man, I currently own a pair of Ether2s, but even after eq the bass is just not there and they sound really flat to me. Do you think that the Empyrean is a worthwhile upgrade? They'd fit my criteria of open-back, really comfortable and can run balanced too.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 2 года назад
I haven't tried the Ether 2, but the Empys are amazing if you want a high end sound with plenty of quality bass.
@angus004004
@angus004004 4 года назад
I love meze audio when they release 99 classic few years ago and I am their big fans. Now I think is time to upgrade to Empyrean But for the dap part,I just wondering whether Fiio m15 or Astell &Kern 2000 is better as Fiio m15 is cheaper and have headphone mode. But anyway , I do enjoy hearing the review of this guy, so pro and really can help the viewer to know more details about the product,thanks.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Thanks Gorson! I'll have to try the M15 soon if I can.
@angus004004
@angus004004 4 года назад
Passion for Sound m15 is hard to get now because of Wuhan pneumonia,hope you have luck to get one and I have subscribed your channel as well,all the best:)
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Good point. Thanks for subscribing
@mjjm6220
@mjjm6220 3 года назад
Empyrean a combo of audio quality & visual quality. Most certainly worth $3K I certainly could not say that about the Abyss 1266...looks like a boat anchor.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Yes, design-wise the 1266 is pretty, um, unique. Apparently it sounds glorious though...
@billyc3161
@billyc3161 3 года назад
How does the Empyrean compare to the Audeze LCD-4z?
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
I'd love to know that too, Billy. Hopefully I can answer in the future... 🙂
@N02tradamus
@N02tradamus 3 года назад
I think Darko compares them in his video. FYI.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
You're right - he does
@ixoye56
@ixoye56 2 года назад
How are vocals represented, up in your face like Sennheiser 600 series or more in depth? I prefer some distance to the vocals.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 2 года назад
I don't own these anymore to test that specifically, but they are more spacious than an HD6-series headphone. They're not hugely spacious like an HD800, but I never felt like they were in my face
@yoramdiamand
@yoramdiamand 3 года назад
Hi, I bought the Empyreans second hand, and I was warned it had less detail than say the Stax L700, others answered: you must hear it with a silver cable please. So before I received the cans with stock cable I ordered the Lavricables Grand Litz. I listened to the stock cable some days before the Grand was in the mail. With the stock cable I used the leather pads as they are called more analytical, but with the silver cable I use the velvet pads, since it doesn’t lack any detail, and why choose analytical when you can have sheer beauty? I was warned the Grand is like an Audeze Lcd-4: too heavy, but that is the photo, it is not too heavy. So I will be still a bit careful with delicate silver. My Stax L700 cable has a lot of silver in it. High end music listening seems not possible without the benefits of silver. Thanks Yoram
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Hi Yoram, I actually have found things a bit different to what you've been told about the pads. The leather create a richer, warmer sound while the velour bring the upper mids out a bit more which, to me, equates to a little more perception of detail/transparency. To me, where the Empyreans shine is their layering of detail. They don't push anything in your face, but if you want to listen analytically, there is a lot of detail and info you can hear that's just sitting there for you if you want it. I love mine with a copper litz cable. I've found silver cables to be too much sometimes so I haven't gone down that path with the Empys and found the copper litz a notable step up from the stock cable. I might have to try a silver cable on them one day though...
@MaZEEZaM
@MaZEEZaM 3 года назад
They seem pretty nice but at $5,500 AUD it’s vastly over my budget, I just ordered the Ray Penta with a new bonus balanced cable.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Nice choice with the Pentas. Gorgeous IEM
@TontNZ
@TontNZ 3 года назад
Hi Lachlan, as always a big thanks for the review. It convinced me to pull the trigger and buy a pair to add to my little collection. I opted for the standard copper cable with XLR termination for the Soloist 3 and the silver plated PCUHD upgrade cable with 6.3mm termination for my WA5LE. Now I wait impatiently for them to arrive from the US.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Hi Peter, glad I could help. I think you'll love the results. I'd be keen to hear your thoughts on the cables too!
@AstroFantastica
@AstroFantastica 4 года назад
Hah I have the same headphones with the same stand (from Massdrop?) :P Have you tried the silver upgrade cables?
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Hi Astro, no, I haven't tried it. I was looking into it, but the cost was too much and I'm uncertain about silver vs copper cables because I generally prefer the copper. Have you tried it? How is it in your opinion?
@AstroFantastica
@AstroFantastica 4 года назад
@@PassionforSound It is rather expensive I agree, but I got a good deal on it (second hand). They do change the sound signature noticably, which was surprising because up until the Empyreans I never really saw the value in different cables. The silvers make them sound a lot faster, and shifts the tonality slightly into the upper mids. It's for sure a more analytical sound at the cost of some slam in the sub-bass (though by no means are they bass light). I find it a lot more pleasing for female vocal and classical due it their more open nature. EDM is more fun on copper though :) Hope that helps. PS if you're in Sydney I'd be happy to let you try them!
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Thanks for the great explanation. I'm in Melbourne and the postal system is a bit of a mess at the moment due to COVID, but perhaps on the other side we can arrange a bit of a short term loan of the silver cable and my Aurealis copper litz cable.
@mrfrosty3
@mrfrosty3 3 года назад
Their sound may not be loved by all but pretty much everyone agrees they are the best built and best looking headphones ever. They are a safe bet for a gift, they are sublime. Its a pity you can't gaze at them when they are on your head.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Maybe the carry case should have a mirror on the inside! 😉😉
@mjjm6220
@mjjm6220 3 года назад
Today, Meze premiered their new flagship hp, the Elite, with a 4000 € price tag.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Yes, I'm excited to try them. I'm expecting that they might be different rather than (subjectively) better, but we'll see. I'm definitely expecting some technical superiority, but that might not make them as fun and engaging as the originals
@steveee2511
@steveee2511 2 года назад
do they sound like a electrostatic or magnetotat speaker like martin logan or magnepan
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 2 года назад
I don't have enough experience with those speakers to say - sorry
@giogrig6574
@giogrig6574 4 года назад
i like the set-up, no need to change imho.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Thanks for letting me know!
@giogrig6574
@giogrig6574 4 года назад
@@PassionforSound no worries, mate
@Martijn1234
@Martijn1234 3 года назад
Nice review. I recently joined the high end Headphone hifi world. I bought the Stellias because I thought I wanted the ultimate detail. They are wonderful with very good recording but I find them a bit treble happy and very unforgiving. Bought these and luckily Meze knew what I wanted from a Headphone setup and made these. What a wonderful way to listen to music. Paired with Matrix Element X.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Thanks Martjin - I imagine that would make a very nice setup! I agree with you that Meze nailed it with the Empyreans. I have the Utopias here too now and while they are technically very impressive, the Empyreans are the headphone I reach for nearly every time because they are just so good across all genres, all equipment and are so thoroughly engaging. Enjoy the music!!
@Martijn1234
@Martijn1234 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound thanks and keep up the good work.
@fizywig
@fizywig 4 года назад
Hi there I am thinking of purchasing the dcs Bartok headphone amplifier for these empyrean headphones, with a view to integrating this into my system as a 1 box solution eventually after using it purely as a headphone amplifier, thinking it will be the best way to listen to the Bartok given that speakers can run into 10s of thousands of dollars to get the best result. Are the Empyreans a good match for the DCS Bartok?
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Hi fizywig, I haven't tried the Bartok, but I would expect it to do a good job given its price and implied level of performance. The Empyreans scale incredibly well so you may find an external HP amp fed from the Bartok can take the system even further, but starting with the Bartok should be great. (And the external amp may not be necessary - I don't know what the Bartok amp stage is like)
@yoramdiamand
@yoramdiamand 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DSM_xSSpPKs.html
@volkirocks6455
@volkirocks6455 3 года назад
Great Review. Thanks for that. I use them with T&A Dac8 and Violectric HPA 280 and this Sound is for years and years. Fucking brilliant.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
You're welcome! Sounds like a great setup and I agree with you - this is a headphone that I always come back to after listening to others and it's like coming home 🙂
@ChiLL_iLL
@ChiLL_iLL 3 года назад
I'm using the topping d90/a90 stack and I'm really thinking about pulling the trigger on the HPA 280!
@clintonlewis2547
@clintonlewis2547 4 года назад
Really good review, I’ll sub off it and see if your other content interests me.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Thanks Clinton. Hope you like the future reviews
@paulguglielmo2286
@paulguglielmo2286 3 года назад
Thank you, and wonderful review! It would be great if we could get your opinion on the soundstage of the Meze Empyreans compared with other headphones maybe ZMF Auteur, Sennheiser HD 800 S, Focal Clear etc. Cheers!
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Hi Paul, glad you liked it! 🙂 The Empyreans provide an excellent soundstage. It's not huge, but very well described and with good instrument separation. The Clear is slightly larger, but less focussed and probably less layered. The HD800S is obviously much bigger and at least on par for focus, but at the expense of any soul/realism in tone. I haven't yet tried the Auteur, but the other headphone I can mention is the Utopia which is very similar in staging to the Empyrean with perhaps a touch more focus due to its insane detail retrieval.
@paulguglielmo2286
@paulguglielmo2286 3 года назад
Thanks for your insight !!!
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
You're welcome 🙂
@MistaLova-Lova
@MistaLova-Lova 4 года назад
Hi, thank you for the review, what a good timing - you may remember from my previous comments that I had the NightHawks and the T1s 2nd gen and was looking for something "next level" which would sound less artificial than the T1s. I got the Focal Clears and was happy for a while, but to be honest, I find myself listening to them less and less which makes me question all the money I spent on them. They are, I'm sure, technically the best headphones I've ever heard, but they are getting kind of... boring. I find myself analysing music through them (listening with my brain) as opposed to feeling it which is the case with the NightHawks (listening with my heart). The NightHawks make me feel like I'm embraced by the music, it's so personal, so visceral, almost physical. The Clears (perhaps due to being fully open) sort of play the sound close to my ears as opposed to inside me (some people would prefer it this way, I like to feel the music inside me). However, as you rightly pointed out in one of your videos, one can have the Clears for experiencing the clarity of music, and the NightHawks as the the pair of headphones which brings more joy. But even then, what stops me from being satisfied is: 1. Narrow sound stage - it's just straight in my face, it gets boring and irritating after a while, stops me from getting sucked into the music as it feels a little artificial. I would like to feel like there's no limit to where the sound goes and where the instruments are placed around me. 2. Boring treble - yes, easy to listen to, but somehow unengaging. I could not continue listening to the T1s after I'd heard the Clears (the tonality and sibilance...), but their treble would sometimes send shivers down my spine. 3. Lack of sub-bass. The Clears can be quite punchy in certain songs, but the lack of sub-bass presence makes some songs sound quite hollow, too analytical and too dry, I find myself skipping songs as they're just not "meaty" enough to put a smile on my face. It's quite ironic how I initially loved the Clears for the lack of colouration and "weirdness" that the NightHawks offer, but with time I found that due to the above reasons I am not fully satisfied with them. But something with a bigger (and deeper) soundstage and proper bass presence could hopefully finally give me what I've been looking for... Do you think that these Meze headphones could be my holy grail? I would only consider spending that amount of money on a pair of headphones if it was something truly special, an addictive experience, not just an analytical tool. I have also heard a lot of good things about the HEDDphones - have you had a chance to listen to them?
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Hi Michal, I haven't heard the HEDDphones, but I've read some mixed reports about their comfort and that's a real problem if you want to lose yourself in the music because, ideally, you want to forget your wearing headphones. I personally think the Empyreans are outstanding because they are so technically strong, but only if you actually listen for it. They're kind of opposite to a Clear or HD800 where the Clears, etc. draw your attention to the technicalities, the Emperyeans let you immerse yourself in the music and it's only if you listen critically that you realise how good they actually are. In fact, I've had a few occasions where I doubted that they were THAT special so I've compared them with the Clears and gone "oh yeah, that's right, they're miles ahead" but I'd forgotten because they're so much about the musical experience. Based on your tastes, I think you'd love them. Which country are you in?
@MistaLova-Lova
@MistaLova-Lova 4 года назад
@@PassionforSoundThank you for your reply. Hm, the fact that you sometimes doubted if they were in fact so special is a little concerning to me, because that's how I decided on keeping the Clears - their tonality sounded so much better than everything else I had at the time. So, in direct comparison, they sounded like everything I could ask for, but on their own, after a while, I'm missing the things I've mentioned above. The vision of spending a crazy amount of money on the Emperyeans and then possibly "doubting if they're so special"... I would only consider such a purchase if every time I put them on I went "DAMN!" :) I live in Scotland, perhaps I've not done enough research but I don't think there's a place nearby where I could audition different audiophile headphones (especially now with the COVID restrictions...).
@MistaLova-Lova
@MistaLova-Lova 4 года назад
Sorry, I don't what I wrote is very clear - what I meant was that I also doubted if the Clears were in fact so special, but then their clarity and tonality always surprised me when compared directly to the other pairs of headphones I had access to at the time. It is also important to mention that I do not have superexpensive DACs and amps, I get my music from FLAC files on Tidal and have an Asus Xonar Essence STX II sound card with very powerful amps on it (never had to use the highest setting, even on 600ohm T1s) , but surely it won't be as good as audiophile DACs and amps. Taking this into consideration, perhaps there's no point in me looking for anything better than the Clears with this set-up. What do you think?
@MistaLova-Lova
@MistaLova-Lova 4 года назад
*I don't think (just cannot spell today...)
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Hi Michal, firstly, the Empyreans are definitely a "Damn!" extracting headphone, but they also happen to be very easy to listen to so apologies if I made it sound otherwise. I think we'll grow accustomed to any headphone given time so what you're describing is very normal. Now that I know your setup, I'd say to invest in some better source chain gear first (i.e. amp/DAC). You'll be amazed how much better the Clears can sound and also smoother too. Have you got a budget available? How much could you comfortably invest into an amp (and what currency e.g. USD, AUD, etc.)?
@TheMassif
@TheMassif 3 года назад
After all this spent spent with the Empy and so many amplifiers you have reviewed, what would you consider the best match? Thanks!
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Putting aside the TT2 which is both DAC and amp, I love the Empys with the Auris Audio Euterpe, Burson Soloist 3XP and Sparkos Labs Aries
@TheMassif
@TheMassif 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound thanks a lot! The Sparkos is intriguing, I have their opamps in my Conductor but never researched about their amp
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
I reviewed it AGES ago on the channel, but have recently bought one for myself and will revisit it with a fresh review soon using some much higher end gear.
@glenguldbeckmusic3410
@glenguldbeckmusic3410 3 года назад
I have a pair arriving late next week. After listening to your review, I'm reminded that I made an excellent decision. Thanks so much!!!
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
You're in for a treat, Glen! I just compared them to the Susvara recently too and they still have an unshakable place in my collection. 🙂
@glenguldbeckmusic3410
@glenguldbeckmusic3410 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound Thanks so much for the reply. Five days to go. Not that I'm counting...lol.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Try to stay busy. The time will go faster 😉
@trillium9992
@trillium9992 3 года назад
Thank you for taking the time to review this headphone. I particularly appreciate the comparison to the Focal Clear. This is my current headphone, which I really enjoy, but have been thinking about upgrading for one main reason: Jaw Pain. The clamping force on the Focal Clears causes quite a bit of pain in my jaw after 7+ hours of daily use. I work as a therapist, seeing clients online, and the open back headphones help me to hear my voice while I talk to my clients. With the Clears, the combo of the clamping force with talking all day gives me quite a bit of pain in that jaw area. Do you by chance know how these headphones perform in very long listening sessions, particularly while communicating with others?
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Hi Trillium, my pleasure. I do think the Empyreans are better for overall comfort than the Clears, but it's such a personal thing that I don't know how they'll go for you specifically. They're also not quite as open as the Clear so you might not get quite the same experience of being able to hear yourself talk. Can I suggest a cheap headphone for calls with clients and keep the Clears for listening? The HD560S might be a good option if you're able to work with two different headphones. They sit off the jawbone a little for me so any pressure is higher up on the head, but they don't clamp much.
@trillium9992
@trillium9992 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound Thank you for your reply, feedback on the Empyreans, and recommendation of the Sennheiser HD560S. I’ll see if I can try those on someplace. Thanks again! It’s very kind of you to reply and I really appreciate it.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
My pleasure. Good luck!
@Viewer13128
@Viewer13128 4 года назад
your comparison of the treble reminds me of the hifiman arya described by Resolve Reviews. Can you make a comparison with the Arya, since that is a much cheaper option than the Meze Empyrean? We wouldn't have to spend double the money on an Empyrean if the Arya is an option for this presentation.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
I'll see if I can get my hands on the Arya. I'll be amazed if it's directly comparable given the hybrid technology in the Empyreans, but that's why we need to listen and find out! 😉
@Viewer13128
@Viewer13128 4 года назад
@@PassionforSound thanks! i mean, even if it does various things a bit worse, if the presentation is very similar, that would justify the savings, right (as was the case with the focal clear)? I've heard the arya and clear side by side in a store, and i did prefer the arya, as the clear was really pushing the guitar strums right against my ear, but i've never heard the empyrean.
@dmarcus1260
@dmarcus1260 4 года назад
@@PassionforSound I can loan you my pair of Aryas. My only concern is that I live in the United States so it might take awhile for you to get them.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
Thanks for the offer!!! I messaged you on Head-fi about the Andromedas because I'm concerned about the costs, but maybe we can arrange a temporary trade if the postage isn't a killer
@andersforsgren3806
@andersforsgren3806 4 года назад
What? You guys hang out on HeadFi - could never have guessed. *Cough* ...yes I am there also. But yes, too bad with the very low impedance of these ones. They can never be used with a serious can-amp.
@tazulislam2544
@tazulislam2544 3 года назад
Hi , how do these headphones compare to the utopias?
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Hi Tazul, I'm yet to try the Utopia so I can't say. Sorry!
@TheProgrn
@TheProgrn 4 года назад
Did they sound good on the bottle head? They’re low impedance and with the tubes I’d think it wouldn’t sound good.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
They sound great! Don't buy into the myths about tubes. There are many different tube designs. Some are high output impedance (like the Bottlehead Crack) which can be an issue with lower impedance cans, but the Mainline I have is suitable for low or high impedance gear. Interestingly, I actually really like the extra touch of fullness that the high impedance mode brings to the Clears. Ultimately, the Clears will work wonderfully with pretty much anything in my experience - they're just a wonderful headphone.
@TheProgrn
@TheProgrn 4 года назад
Passion for Sound I also own the clears and I really want to try out a tube amp but I’m worried about the sound. It’s good to hear that you’ve had a positive experience.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
@@TheProgrn yeah, definitely don't be concerned. The fact they sound great on high impedance mode from the Mainline means it will be hard to go wrong. Just choose a good quality tube amp (i.e. with good reviews) and enjoy the music! 😁
@curlmythic
@curlmythic 3 года назад
Thanks
@kuuhgle
@kuuhgle 3 года назад
I do think they leave the Focal Clears completely in the dust. I can't think of any area where the Focals come even close to their performance.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
The Clears have a little more treble energy for those who value that, but I tend to agree.
@jeffchapman6280
@jeffchapman6280 3 года назад
I had both the Clears and Empys and kept the Empys. Clears were fantastic but the Empys had similar detail and added amazing sub bass. Tried on both the D90/A90 stack and the RME ADI-2 FS (kept the RME btw)
@jeffchapman6280
@jeffchapman6280 3 года назад
Also, fwiw, I EQ the Empys on the RME with one adjustment - g:3.0 F:1.50k Q1.4
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
The Empyreans are an amazing headphone. The Clears are good, but not in the same league IMO.
@BillyKueekSG
@BillyKueekSG 2 года назад
I don’t go out much since I have mobility difficulties so I depend on Lachlan’s reviews. When you said it’s good enough, it’s good enough for me. Today, I went to the mall to get my iPad Pro checked and went into Stereo, a local shop that sells headphones, IEMs, DACs and amps etc. I tried the Empryean with IFI Diablo and it sounds great, the best I’ve heard so far. Would have love to hook it with their IFI Pro DSD but my wheelchair can’t access there. By best, I am comparing this with the Clear MG and Arya Stealth Magnet. Would have used the monies to buy this instead as the Clear MG is sounding a little too bright and is heavy for my broken neck.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 2 года назад
Sorry to hear that the Clear MGs aren't working for you! If we were closer geographically, I'd gladly discuss buying them from you for the sake of reviewing them, but the shipping costs at the moment are ridiculous! So glad I can be of help in your purchases.
@BillyKueekSG
@BillyKueekSG 2 года назад
@@PassionforSound, the Clear MG still works for me it's just a tad heavy. As for the brightness, I can hook it up with my iFi Zen DAC V2 and use it for different kinds of music or EQ it. With TruBass on, it's still wonderful! Oh yes, I am also getting a tube amp so that may work well too. Another thing is I got very good prices spending USD1, 250 each for the new Arya and the Clear MG.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 2 года назад
Great deals! Depending on the tube amp you're getting, that's likely to really help with the MG brightness.
@BillyKueekSG
@BillyKueekSG 2 года назад
@@PassionforSound, I thought tubes would warm and smoothen it out a little then it’ll be great. If we are close geographically, I would send what I have to you for reviews no problem. I wonder what’s the freight costs from Singapore to Melbourne and back.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 2 года назад
All tube amps are different, but generally they will be less aggressive than solid state amps. I haven't shipped to or from Singapore for ages now so not sure of pricing
@BillyKueekSG
@BillyKueekSG 2 года назад
First impression, the Empyrean is the best I’ve heard although I listen briefly in the shop so I didn’t get to compare it with my Arya Stealth Magnet and Clear MG. Wanted to listen to the Elite before deciding but now, a local trader has a set of brand new Empyrean selling at under US$2,300 while the shops are selling at US$3,000. Help! What do I do?
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 2 года назад
That's a tough one? If it were me, I'd sell the Clear (and maybe the Arya?) and get the Empys, but I can't make the decision for you. 😉
@BillyKueekSG
@BillyKueekSG 2 года назад
@@PassionforSound I am still very new to this and have already bought several DACs with the different major chips suppliers, amps and several headphones. I need to learn more about my equipments first and enjoy what I have in the meantime. I’ll just see how things go as I go along
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 2 года назад
Sounds like a wise approach
@BillyKueekSG
@BillyKueekSG 2 года назад
@@PassionforSound let is be~~~ let it be~~~
@BillyKueekSG
@BillyKueekSG 2 года назад
@@PassionforSound Lachlan, can I connect from the DAC to an actual EQ and then to the amp for headphone listening? Cos o can’t find anything for Mac
@N02tradamus
@N02tradamus 3 года назад
Are they still your favorite flagship headphones?
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
They're currently in a battle for supremacy with the Susvara, but they're holding strong
@deevnn
@deevnn 2 года назад
@@PassionforSound yes...at twice the price.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 2 года назад
Yep. As it happens, the Elites have no surplanted the Empys, but I do miss them
@ChiLL_iLL
@ChiLL_iLL 3 года назад
Just picked them up and slowly unraveling all they have to offer. Did you use any EQ settings for them?
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Hi Raj, I don't EQ them because I love them straight out of the box. I personally tend to enjoy each headphone for its own characteristics so I never really EQ except occasionally for testing. How are you finding them so far?
@ChiLL_iLL
@ChiLL_iLL 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound I'm loving them. I did some EQing and A/B testing, and honestly, I do not believe these headphones need any EQ. They sound phenomenal. Each listen reveals more as time goes on.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
I totally agree and that's what I love about them. They don't force anything on you, but everything's there to be discovered
@ChiLL_iLL
@ChiLL_iLL 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound Completely agree. What amp do you drive them with? I'm waiting on a DNA Starlett (currently using A90/D90) so I'm eyeing that Burson Soloist or the audio gd master 19
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
I use the TT2 mostly, but also the Soloist, Bottlehead Mainline and Auris Euterpe (review coming soon). The Euterpe combo is gorgeous! Not the most neutral, but it's touch of colour suits the Empyreans like hazelnuts and chocolate. The Soloist is a great match for a nice neutral sound. I can't compare to the others you've mentioned though unfortunately
@357mview2
@357mview2 4 года назад
Aaa name the headphone stand
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 4 года назад
It's from Firestone Audio. Not sure where you can buy it, but here's their site: www.fsatw.com/frh001.html
@357mview2
@357mview2 4 года назад
Passion for Sound thank you 🙏🏻
@fatdoi003
@fatdoi003 3 года назад
when I auditioned the Empy I actually found it quite underwhelming..... it's a good headphone but quite dry and boring....
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Hi William, I think a couple of things might have been going on for you to experience them that way. Firstly, the Alcantara pads sound quite different from the leather pads and I think the leather pads are where the magic happens. Secondly, the Empys are like other top tier headphones in the sense that the source you use will dictate their performance and they'll only show their true potential on a high end system. Finally, they're not a headphone designed for wow factor so much as lifelike reproduction of sound. They don't do things like throw a massive soundstage or have any significant peaks or troughs in the frequency response to make them sound exciting. What they do really well though is provide a coherent, detailed and realistic reproduction of the music in a slightly warm and engaging way. It's something that I think is appreciated over time more than in a short demo and will depend a lot on what you're used to and what you're expecting. Of course, they also might not be to your tastes and that's fine too. 🙂
@fatdoi003
@fatdoi003 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound i forgot which pads they used but for sure their dac and amp cost multiple times than Empy itself.... but maybe i was poisoned by ZMF Verite just before I listened to Empy.... hence now I have a VO on my shelf
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Interesting. I believe the Verite are both excellent, but also more dramatically tuned so there could be a few things going on. I'm looking forward to trying the Verite soon as I've heard lots of good things
@fatdoi003
@fatdoi003 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound yes the musicality and timbre captivated me, with decent dynamics, detail and speed..... it fits nicely between Utopia and Auteur...
@Smood47
@Smood47 3 года назад
Please change the music bro... its very cringe sounding. Otherwise good work.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Glad you liked the rest. The music changes quite often so all good there.
@Smood47
@Smood47 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound Thoughts on empy vs arya and susvara?
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
I haven't yet tried the Arya or Susvara, but I'd expect the Empys to be comfortably better than the Arya based on what I've read. Not sure about the Susvara.
@Smood47
@Smood47 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound Thanks. I shared your channel on our audio discord sonic visions. Really enjoying your reviews. Do hope you get more headphones to review.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Thanks Smood! I've got a bunch coming up (in no particular order): Grado RS1e, HD800S, Monolith 1060 V2, Koss PortaPro, HE4XX, AKG K712
@phillipnunya6793
@phillipnunya6793 3 года назад
Gonna get the Empyrean and use it with a Schitt Magni Heresy and Modi stack. I can't be bothered to upgrade.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
It will sound great, but you'll be nowhere near hearing just how good the Emperyans can be. I'm guessing the upgrade bug might bite down the track. 😉
@phillipnunya6793
@phillipnunya6793 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound Must.... Resist.... Do you think the Magnius and Modius would work well enough? If not, what would? It already hurts my poor wallet enough spending that much on headphones. Doing it again with an amp and dac would be a bit much for me unless I become much richer somehow. Also, have you tried the Abyss Dianna V2? That is the only other headphone I am considering getting instead at some point.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
I think it's false economy to spend that much on a headphone, but cut costs on your amp and DAC. If you plan to upgrade your sources at some point then go for it, but otherwise it's kind of like buying a Ferrari to just drive up to the local grocery store. If I had that budget, I'd probably buy a pair of Focal Clears, Beyer T5 3rd gen or similar and then a Schiit Bifrost 2 and a Burson Soloist. I think it would sound noticeably better than the Empys with the Modi/Heresy combo, but that's just me. If you decide to go ahead you'll have a truly brilliant headphone that will sound better than most other gear around even if it's only running at 80% of its max performance
@phillipnunya6793
@phillipnunya6793 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound I was just kidding about keeping the Magni and Modi long term, but I was hoping that the Magnius and Modius would be just about as good for the Empyrean as more expensive gear. If it isn't, I hope I don't have to spend another $2000 for whatever is. I am less willing to spend on amps and dacs than headphones because it seems like the improvement is far less for the money spent, but please let me know if I am wrong. If I am, then I may have to upgrade sometime later as suggested.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
I wondered, but I wanted to respect the comment just in case 🙂 I do think it's worth spending a bit more on the gear you use to drive a headphone of that level, but you can always go secondhand. There are some amazing products out there on the used markets. Auralic Taurus MK2 is one great example that pops up occasionally.
@gjtube37
@gjtube37 3 года назад
Thank you for the great review! Do you think that these need a burn-in period and how does the Empyrean sound on a tube amp? Also, have you heard the Meze Elite, and what are your thoughts compared to the Empyrean? Thank you!
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
These might have some burn-in effect, but nothing significant so just plug in and enjoy. They work great with some tube amps too. Like anything, it comes down to the synergy between the amp and the headphone, but the Auris Euterpe is a great match. I haven't heard the Elite yet, but I'll be reviewing ASAP
@samhor33
@samhor33 3 года назад
Just got a pair of empyrean and the silver plated cable from meze, I will have to say it's the best thing I've owned so far, sounds really good and natural!
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
That's great to hear that you're so happy with it! Thanks for sharing
@camelpuncher95
@camelpuncher95 2 года назад
Bloated mess, expensive as fuck. If you want bad sound, just take relatively neutral 50 dollar headphones and EQ them like Meze Empyreans.
@Killerschwan
@Killerschwan 3 года назад
Thank you for the great review! I'm waiting for my Empyrean to arrive and am currently searching for a fitting amp. I already have the D90 MQA/A90 combo (love it with the Empyrean), and need another amp for the living room, which will be hooked up to a SMSL M500 for digital and a Lehmann Black Cube SE for analog. So what would you recommend? SMSL SP200, Topping L30 or something completely different?
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Hi Killerschwan, definitely not the SP200 - that will suck the life and soul out of the Empyreans. What's your max budget?
@Killerschwan
@Killerschwan 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound OK that's already helpful. My max. budget is around 750 to 1000 Euro (for a new amp).
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
The Burson Soloist 3X would be my ultimate recommendation in that budget, but it's using all of it. It is way better than the (very good) A90. Another good option is the Schiit Asgard 3 (much cheaper, similar to SP200/L30, but better) or you could go for something like the SP400 or Gustard H16. Both should be solid based on their reputation, but I'm yet to hear either personally. Finally, I'm very much looking forward to reviewing the new Jotunheim from Schiit soon. I'm expecting great things, but again haven't heard it myself yet. Sorry I can't be more definitive. The Soloist 3X would be my easy choice if I were in your shoes because the Empyreans have more to offer than even the A90 can extract from them - they're amazing with a great source.
@Killerschwan
@Killerschwan 3 года назад
@@PassionforSound Thanks for the extensive reply! Burson wasn't on my list at all - I recently sold my Soloist from 2013, as I didn't like it with the Empyrean - at least not with faster-paced and dynamic music. But I guess the current Soloist is probably quite different. Will check out your review! Schiit Jotunheim also sounds very interesting, I'll be looking out for your review.
@PassionforSound
@PassionforSound 3 года назад
Glad I could help. I agree the previous Soloist wasn't a great match, but the new one is a beast!
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