creeperdragon dianna ross Lied to Michael Jackson, she just use him for benefits not real,I just say Lisa is real for Michael and their Love are real when we look them together, that diana ross is stupid to Michael Jackson. She s not true women to Love
Wonder Land he didn't want Lisa hon. That's why he ignored her, ran from her across the land, and said she needed to leave him alone, and harassed her for a divorce..
Flower vase You got it all wrong..I agree I think Diana kinda played with his feelings...but LISA WASNT GOOD FOR HIM EITHER...They weren’t married very long she even said if it wasn’t for sex I would’ve left him a long time ago.
Mike dated black girls, usually behind the cameras. The white girl escorts you see at awards shows are mostly set up by the PR teams. Brooke, Tatum, Madonna, etc. Only after his death we found out he dated Whitney Houston, and had an affair with Diana Ross (in fact she 'broke him in'), Stephanie Mills was one of his early girlfriends, the hookups with Tatiana, Ola Ray, etc. I think Michael was very shrewd concerning his private life as opposed to his public image, everything you see through the media has been carefully calculated and not his true self.
Aprillis29 I AGREE. EVERYONE SHOULD LOOK UP SOME VIDEOS ON RU-vid CALLED "MICHAEL JACKSON OLD GIRLFRIENDS" AND ALSO " MICHAEL JACKSON WANTED FOURTH CHILD WITH DR SUSAN ETOK " WELL WE ALL KNOW THAT MICHEAL'S FANTASY WOMAN WAS CLEARLY DIANA ROSS. I BELIEVE THEY ABSOLUTELY HAD AN AFFAIR BUT SHE WAS AFRAID OF HIS YOUNG AGE RUINING HER CAREER AND REPUTATION XD PLUS WE KNOW HE HAD A THING FOR WHITNEY HOUSTON(BUT NEITHER ONE OF THEIR MANAGEMENT TEAMS LET THEM MARRY EACH OTHER), NAOMI CAMPBELL, STEPHANIE MILLS, SHANA, TATIANA(BUT MICHAEL'S PEOPLE WAS AFRAID OF HER & WOULD NOT LET MICHAEL MARRY HER & EVEN TOLD HIM HE COULDN'T TRUST HER), DR. SUSAN ETOOK(UNFORTUNATELY MICHAEL WAS A LOT OLDER AND VERY CONTROVERSIAL BY THE TIME HE GOT AROUND TO HER), BEYONCEE, AND NOW THIS SMART INTELLIGENT BLACK LADY. THESE ARE THE ONES WE KNOW ABOUT. IT SOUNDS LIKE MICHAEL DATED AN AWFUL LOT OF BLACK LADIES TO ME. :):)XDXDXD ALSO HIS MOTHER ALMOST FORCED HIM TO MARRY DEBBIE ROWE FOR RELIGIOUS REASONS, AND HE NEVER REALLY LOVED BROOK SHIELDS. XD I DO THINK HE LOVED LISA MARIE. XDXDXDXD:)
He may have loved Lisa a little, but he absolutely was over the moon for Diana, and that's why she's the ONLY one in the will, and the one he called the 'most important woman in his life' ... And Michael would never let someone tell him who he could and could not marry!!! MICHAEL' was his own man, and that's why he wanted to LEAVE the music biz to marry Diana Because he knew the media would never leave them alone!. Diana is the One he fought for for years! And he didn't care who didn't like it! Just like he didn't care who didn't like it when he talked about Sony like a dog, or when he talked about Elvis stealing black music, claiming the king kingship of R/R when that was originally a BLACK MUSIC! MJ went into detail saying Elvis was a fake king, and that title should have gone to chuck berry, James Brown, or Jackie Wilson! (All 3 were his idols) He talked about the blk man who wrote most of Elvis's songs dying penniless, and how unfair it was... Michael was actually very outspoken, strong, and stubborn. He was nothing like the media presented him.... That's why he kept defiantly saying he loved Diana, and writing songs about her even when she tried to make him stop. Diana was the one trying to keep it a secret....
I will never understand why the hate is always directed towards MJ, what about Prince? Did you see how that guy looked with his straight hair in the 90's? In all Princes videos in the 80's the only women that are seen are white or latinas, (sometimes u'll see a mixed black woman/biracial) while MJ might nt have married a black woman, he sure enough showed his love through his videos & music (liberian girl) when talkin bout it. Remember the time shows his view on egypt and his blackness.
Electric Soul He didn't flaunt them. The media did. MJ dated a ton of black girls but the media never wanted to show them. And he tried to marry Diana Ross for years!! She was his everything... And all he talked about was how much he loved her!! Find a white woman he treated HALF as good as he treated Diana!
@@electricsoul8624 true, he always mentioned white girls! And Michael said that he was "very friendly" with Stephanie Mills (Moonwalk autobiography book). But it's obvious that they really dated. It's strange. Michael really admited his romantical feelings to Diana Ross (black woman) in his book. He mentioned that she was his "mother, friend, lover". And for me it's odd to use words like mother and lover together.
@@ММВ-н1л He rarely mentioned white girls. He always talked about his love for Diana.. And he told People Mag Diana was his soulmate, and love of his life... He said f/yrs Di was the most /imp woman in his life! *He told Rep'rts @ 96 VMAs Di was his ( *HIS WORLD!!* ) *Ultimate CD 2004 says* *To Diana Ross I loved u in the early years, LOVE U EVEN MORE NOW! I love you!!* ( No I 💙 U to Lisa!!!) Moonwalk: 1988: *I've always loved Diana Ross, and I always will!* *I never loved ANY woman, as much as I love her!* History 1995: _big pic 👸 of DIANA wrapped in his arms! ( *INSTEAD OF LISA!!!* ) Caption says: *ALL MY LOVE TO DIANA!!* Bottom says: *I LOVE YOU DIANA!!!* (No l 💙 U to Lisa!!) RTT 1992: He wrote on CD *Dedicated to Diana Ross with' love* I 💜 U! Her CD, 1989 Eaten Alive, he said: So good to be w' you again! I 💘 U Diana! He spent Millions 💰 on her. He ✈ 🚁 Di around the,🌎 and bought her 💐 💎 🏠 🚢. He ADMITTED writing/dedctg Most of his love 🎼s to Diana!* (He dedct 0 songs/to Lisa!!) He draped Diana in diamonds💎 / furs n took her around T/ 🌎 He spent tons of 💰 on her to the tune of millions! He wore Diana's 👸 on his clothes, and coupled/dressed with her a lot b/c he said they = soulmates *DIANA, IS THE ONLY WOMAN HE PUT IN HIS WILL!!!* (Lisa/not even mentioned!!) {That's B/C DIANA was the Love of his life!! 💑 just like he said, for years! } That's why he said Diana was his 🌍. She was his everything... Diana was truly the LOHL, but she was NOT a whore. Many women are /were jealous of Di, becuz MJ was hopelessly in love with her, and because men have ALWAYS fallen in love with Diana very easily. Diana was called Dangerous Diana at Motown This is where MJ got the dangerous title. It was just another Diana song. MJ did TONS of songs about her. He was hopelessly in love with her Forever.... And he spent years, of his time, and millions of his dollars, courting/ trying to marry her... Diana was resistant B/C of harassment) by media, and his mom's dislike of her... ___________________________ MJ talks about Lisa to Rabbi: *Lisa's a nice girl,. .I like her* *But...I ..well. Its like this* *Princess Di is my kind of woman, Lisa... Just isn't!* Further in, they talk about Lisa. "Did u tell Lisa how U feel? MJ... *No. I NEVER ACTUALLY TOLD HER I DIDN'T LOVE HER* "It would be too painful for her, so I just stayed away *But Lisa made it really hard on me becuz she was following me everywhere!* *I have all these letters saying, I'll give u 9 babies, I'll do whatever u want!* *Of course the press does not know this. And She just tried and tried for months, But I was just too hard hearted. I closed my mind to the whole idea* *She was hanging out with my mother n family, all the time trying to get back to me* MJ... *The rumors that I wanted Lisa back, are completely false!* *I had NO interest after the divorce* *She was following me everywhere! *I mean everywhere! It was really hard on me becuz I just had NO interest* MJ ..TV guide Nov 29, 1999 ( asked how he felt about Lisa) *I like Lisa Its friendly. She comes to see my kids and we occasionally talk on the phone* * I LIKE HER!* *There u have it from MJ's mouth. He LIKED HER, but was NOT in love with her!*
@@taylorsara1237 WoW!!!! you `ve done a Brilliant work looking for this materials!!! Really! But i noticed that Michael easily used such phrases like "i love you", "soulmate", "love of my life". He would say "i love you" to literally everyone. I read his book "Moonwalk" and saw that Michael claimed that Suzee Ikeda (who was a creative confidante of a teenaged Michael) was his "other half". And Michael told Rabbi that "Brooke was one of the love of my life". He even proposed to her (in her words). Michael dedicated Liberian girl to Elisabeth Taylor (but i agree with you that this song could really be about and to Diana Ross). He bought really expensive gifts to Elisabeth as well. I truly believe that Michael was really mesmeried by Diana Ross. But my conclusion is: I would not trust Michael`s words and even actions completely.
@@ММВ-н1л Hon. Both Mike and Brooke confessed that they had a STAGED fake romance for years set up by the record company!! Don't know where u have been! Mike told the Examiner, Ebony and Jet. And Brooke told Oprah herself Time and People Mag. + she said they would go places together for appearances then immed go off with their Real Loves! Her with Agassi and MJ with Diana! They both admitted there was No romance!! And the proposals to Brooke were not real either. Just PR.... And he threw around I love you to his fans, that's true. But he never played with people's ❤. And that's why he NEVER said I love you to either of his wives!! That's why when he was shouting from stsges that he loved Diana, not once did he say it about Brooke, any other so called romantic interest! When he bought Diana houses,cars, furs, and diamonds. She was the ONLY one he was buying it for! When he was taking her around the world, She was the ONLY one he was taking. When He admitted to writing his songs for Diana, ( sev'l times) She is the ONLY one he talked about writing songs to.. She's the only one he called his 🌎 And the only one he said was the most important woman in his world And the ONLY one who's favmce he wore on his jackets And the ONLY one he dressed alike with! She the ONLY one he had shrine to with -100s of pictures of her She is the ONLY one he dedicated foundations and buildings to! She is the ONLY one he had a park a theatre a rec center etc named after! She is the ONLY one he begged to marry for over 2 decades *She is the Only woman in his will!!* That says it all!! Diana is the ONLY one he had a special rocking hug for. He. Wo4ukd wrap her in his arms tight snd rock from side to side. He never hugged anyone but her like that and he has 2 songs talking about that special Diana hug. MTAM and Beau girl?! Tatum's to Howard Stern: "He was not gay! He was so in love with Diana Ross- and it was Real!!" And for further proof go look at AMA 1984. He's sitting there with Brooke. Diana is on stage and he is blatantly drooling over her right in front of Brooke!! He even threw her kisses! When he goes on stage, he and Diana hug and 💋 in front of Brooke and he tells Diana he loves her while smiling adoringly at her. He acted like Brooke was not even there!! And Brooke did not even get 😠. Know why? Becuz they were only friends faking a relationship!! She already knew Diana was his 💘... ✔
What is so hard to believe of course he was attracted to and dated black women!! He said himself he thought the most beautiful women were east indian esp dark skin indians (btw who generally look black like me)....he was just shy & mostly around whites
DIANA ROSS WAS ALSO ONE OF HIS GREATEST LOVE.HE WAS HURT WHEN SHE MARRIED.YOU KNOW I LOVE HIS DATE WITH THIS GIRL.IT SEEMS THEY LOVED EACHC OTHER VERY MUCH.
@Redrumhydro Yes he did say Blanket's birth mother is black, however most people ignore this or refuse to believe and/or accept that he was telling the truth. Unfortunately it was a problem that he had for most of his life & even in death (people not believing him). It's tragic that it took his autopsy for doubters to see that he indeed suffered from vitiligo. My heart went out 2 him. I can imagine how tough it was 4 him. He told Oprah it made him sad & that he didn't like looking N the mirror.
@rocknroll773 After his death on one of the news shows I remember seeing Tito and he was speaking fondly of MJ smiling at the interviewer saying, "That boy loved him some Diana Ross." I like watching the vids of them. It's so romantic to me. He couldn't hide his feelings for her at all. My favs are when she sits on his lap, when they call each other sexy and at some awards show when he turns to her and says, "I'm crazy about you."
marcia7523 he was in love with her she was his first I got in side knowledge of that I'm from Detroit and knew some one who had inside knowledge about Diana Ross her many Conquest, with men at Motown including little Michael Jackson well she did wait until he was Older .but yeah she got him he even called her his mother lover and friends read his book moonwalked he was trying to tell people back then ,
She wasn't "his only little chocolate drop." There's that Trinidadian girl, the pageant queen (I don't remember her name) that he was seeing at the same time he was seeing Tatum O'Neal. He was asked about the two of them in a magazine interview from the late 70s. Then there was Diana Ross whom he was madly in love with. They never officially dated although he thought what they had was real. Who knows how many other women -- black, white or whatever -- he dated that he kept a secret. Marlon said that MJ used to be promiscuous back in the day. There's no telling how many chicks he knocked down.
Milessa there are videos on YT of MJ and Diana dating. THey went all over the world dating! He took her on cruises, getaways, and all kinds of exotic places. I know you're taking about the tapes, but when he said it was all in his mind I think he meant the happily ever after he envisioned -not the relationship. Because they DEFINITELY dated, sexed, and were even engaged in the 80s!! But Do married the white boy, and broke his heart...He was so under her spell, and devastated, he went celibate, and had to undergo therapy for yrs.. The loss of Di broke him, n he spent yrs trying to get her back...He did, but couldnt get her down the Isle. She kept playing games. + she would send MJ to other women to throw the public off, But then she would get jealous / wag her finger and he would run back. Diana was the love of his life, Don't know why stef would think she was the only black gf...MOST of his women were black!!
Milessa well the r&b singer Miki Howard was another one her son Brandon Howard is Michael Jackson's son looks, him up, talks sounds, like him and can dance like him and sings just like him too but his speaking voice is like hearing MJ talk.
@rocknroll773 It's all good. Let's not forget the Bashir interview was spliced and/or edited so much as to make MJ look & sound totally ridiculous at times & unfortunately was the catalyst to even more people believing the worst of him. Poor Mike. I don't believe for a second he ever hurt anyone, let alone did awful things to a child, however I don't think the 60 minutes interview with Ed Bradley did him any good either. I understood him perfectly, yet there's many who still don't.
marcia7523 I do understand, him as well I just hate the world didn't he gave his life to music and his career but that still wasn't enough for people, greed and jealousy killed him , I'm glade he doesn't have to suffer anymore but I miss him terribly my heart hurts for him I think about him everyday. rih my Love.
@SoulPowerful What are you talking about? he was a proud black man and spoke so open about it. His music videos, the dances, the music is enough proof that he was proud to be black. He only married one white woman (LMP), Katherine Jackson & his manager team forced him to marry Debbie Rowe..And just because he was in 2 publicaly open interracial marriages dont mean anything. It doesnt mean his less black because of this. cont.
What the hell is she talking about she was his only little chocolate drop! The love of his life was black-Diana Ross, and some of his best relationships have been black girls. Whitney Houston, The braxton girl, the beauty queen from trinadad, Miki Howard, Jody Watly, etc... He saw women as women and not as colors. but she has a lot of nerve saying she was his ONLY black gf. that is not true. The LOHL was Diana Ross, and He also dated Whitney, SHana, Montegou, Jody Watley, Therese Gonzalez, etc...
You know, maybe in Stephanie's mind she really believed that she was his only chocolate drop? Or it could be that chocolate drop stands for dark skin woman not necessarily African-American woman? IDK. Anyway, I find it interesting that the whole time she thought they were "together" he was in love with someone else, Diana Ross. She said he brought her to the set of the wiz everyday? Hmmm ok but didn't one of those days he supposedly lost his virginity to Diana in her trailer or at his apartment? These stories are all confusing. MJ was playing all of them I guess.
So Michael was talking on the phone with Tatum O'Neal...sleeping with Theresa Gonsalvez at night while she visited him...had Stephanie doing his laundry and cooking for him, escorted her to the set of The Wiz everyday...all while getting close and falling in love with Diana Ross? Wow. MJ was something else lol.
Some people may get mad at me for saying this, and as much as it hurts me to say "What goes around comes around" and "We reap what we sow". No one should ever play around with another person's heart or feelings and if that is how it truly played out then karma got MJ real good. Not only did Diana break his heart but MJ never got over her for the rest of his life. It seemed like any other woman on this planet paled in comparison to Diana Ross, no other woman was good enough for him no matter what. I have never seen a man yearn for a woman like MJ did Diana, frankly I don't know how to feel about his relationship with her, there are too many elements to the point where it just seems like a huge blur. Some people even believe after Diana got married that's when his life started going downhill, I don't know if that was the case. Love is a dangerous ground and MJ was dangerously in love with Diana. It's crazy.
I don't think he intentionally broke her heart either. But sometimes when you're in love you do anything in your power to be with that person, including hurting someone else that may have loved you. I experienced a similar situation in my own life. I don't know how deep his relationship went with Stephanie, but she could have been blind to the truth. MJ had a way of making a women feel like she was special, and If I was spending a lot of time with him, staying overnight at his apartment, cooking for him, doing his laundry, and kissing him on the regular...then I would too get the impression that we were together or at least heading in that direction. I honestly believe Stephanie didn't know about his dealings with Diana at that time, and in her mind she felt that she was his only black woman. But she was so wrong. I find it odd that she didn't realize what was going on between MJ and Diana because it was right in her face. Stephanie said that she would come to the set and also said that Diana came backstage with her at one of her shows so she could get some pointers about her character Dorothy. I don't think Stephanie was a PR girlfriend like Tatum or Brooke, I think whatever they had together was genuine but at the end of the day she wasn't the woman he truly wanted. I think he cared about her, but he didn't love her, and if he knew that he didn't love her like that, then he shouldn't have been doing things that couples do with her. Then again Diana played the same game with him so, it is what it is.
+taylor sara "When she started making a game out of it when she found out that I was the person that liked her". These are MJ's words not mine, he clearly said that she was playing games. However Diana feels about the situation now is not important to me. What's done is done and I don't have time to wonder "what if" when it comes to the relationship with MJ and Diana. If Diana decides to tell her side of the story one day then I will be more the willing to listen although I won't hold my breath on it.
@rocknroll773 Also there are rumors of him dating Grace(the nanny) but also flirting with other women in his staff. He wasnt the innocent man we saw on Tv, that was just an image. PEACE&LOVE
@Fashion4life I don't believe he was in love w/LMP and if you watched her interview with Oprah, LM really didn't believe it either. She said I think he loved me as much as he could. What kind of answer was that? Did you see the wedding ceremony? It looked more so like formality than it did love. And it only lasted for what 13 months? Like Debbie, I think MJ appreciated LM for what she did for him. MJ's image was being severely attacked when she stepped in.
marcia7523 I agree that tacky ass wedding was a joke!!! They were wearing street clothes, and chewing gum!!!! It looked like some 50.00 hillbilly hick wedding! And in s tacky dark hotel room! If he had been marrying Diana, that wedding would have been laid!!!
@140shak I too like to point out the fact that most of the women featured in his videos were black. I actually think he had a preference for darker skinned women.
@Fashion4life I heard he was flirty with her too, however apparently he was a very flirtacious man anyway. Actually I saw on 1 of the tribute shows a lady talking who worked for Vanity Fair who was on the Thriller set. She said Michael visited Ola's trailer often & that he got to third base with her. On the same show Ola said he definitely wasn't shy & knew what to do and was a great kisser. In The Michael Jackson tapes MJ said he never formally dated any of the women in his vids.
@rocknroll773 I wouldn't count out that he dated Grace. He certainly had the opportunity and there are a lot of pics of them out together without the children. My guess is it was probably easy for him to see her since most would assume that she's just the nanny. It's actually a common story, men falling for their nannies. Heck Robin Williams left his wife and married his. Did you see the vid of MJ and Grace at a store shopping for a tie?
@rocknroll773 Where have you heard that Ola Ray is latina? She's black american and she moved to Japan because her parents (stepdad) was in the military. Ehm, according to alot of sources MJ was very flirty with her, he choose her because of her Playboy issue. Alot of people have sued MJ because of the Thriller video among them Landis who directed it, so it's not only Ola...
@rocknroll773 Didn't his siblings marry in their teens or early 20's? I don't think it would've been an unusual thing 4 him 2 marry young. Things were different back then. More people married as teens, especially if they were religious because they knew there was 2 B no sex before marriage among other things (even though some were probably still doing it.) In the MJ Tapes he talked of regretting not marrying & starting a family earlier like his brothers bcuz he wanted lots of kids.
@rocknroll773 I agree with you when you say,"Truthfully, MJ never publically dated anyone period". I think whenever we saw him photographed with any woman it was merely photo ops calculated by MJ & his PR team. And whenever he was going to some type of function, if he didn't go alone, he would just ask a good friend to accompany him. I believe he kept anyone he was truly dating away from the media frenzy.
@rocknroll773 I found out an answer on that "where did she sleep? On the sofa?" from another video of S.Mills. It appears that they slept in the same bad. Wow! Now it's sounds even more rediculous.
@Fashion4life also thriller the lead lady was African america, & the video in the closet, i understand your point but i wish they wouldnt hate on any one Prince or MJ both are legends
@rocknroll773 Steph probably wanted him real bad. Heck I can't say that I blame her. Joe wasn't gone let nothin serious happen anyway, she was just wastin her time with the laundry and such. I wouldn't be so hard on her. She was young and in love. If it were me and MJ was the only guy I was spending lots of time with, kissin', huggin' and rubbin' then I would most certainly consider him my boyfriend too.
Stephanie Mills said that Mike would go to her house to knock her down, eat some breakfast, then run to the set of The Wiz and try to get Diana Ross' attention
@rocknroll773 That is funny, now I gotta watch the video to see if I see any signs of arousal. I watched the making of that video and there was a scene where they were on the ground and she was on top of him...I bet his soldier was at full attention, that's probably why it didn't make it into the finished project. lol.
Are you sure he dated Patrice? I think that was only a rumor. It's said that he dated Tamar and Nona Gaye tho, but then again you never know..But yeah I agree, it does seem as if he does have a preference with latinas or "ethnic chicks"(gosh I hate that term for personal reasons but yeah) I often have an argument with my bf about him, but I think that the power he had (being black and a superstar) he could have used more black women in his videos and the portrayal of him.
Shana Mangatal, Whitney Houston who we just found out MJ dated, and especially Diana Ross was the rule. So you just cut the BS, got it, deal with it, ha.
He had a beautiful black girlfriend named Shana Mangatal that he dated on and off for more than a decade. She just wrote a book about their relationship, Michael &Me!
@rocknroll773 It's been such a long time since I've seen it, but if you watch the Making of Thriller, on it John Landis did select 10 or so photos of girls, and Michael chose Ola from those photos. In the bookThe Michael Jackson Tapes MJ said that he chose all the women in his videos because he felt they had to be cute to him in order for him to act like he liked them. I know, it's sounds shallow, however he had no clue those tapes would ever go public.
THIS IS A WRONG CONVERSATION.HE LOVED HIS FAMILY VERY VERY MUCH.,THOSE WERE HIS GREATEST LOVE.MICHAEL LOVED EVERY COLOUR.HE WAS A GREAT HUM AN BEING.THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE THE HUMAN RACE.
@rocknroll773 Just cuz he & the birth mother didn't know each other doesn't mean she wasn't black like he said she was.Genetics are not an absolute.People get so caught up on luks that they let ignorance cloud their judgment.I too have biracial relatives who luk as if they don't have an ounce of black in them.It's not a new thing.It's been going on 4 centuries. Hollywood is littered w/people you'd never guess were half black who unfortunately still have the need 2 'pass' for white.
@rocknroll773 If true about her heritage, her people just got off the boat at a different place. Like African Americans I bet she has African ancestry as well.
@rocknroll773 I think he loved Diana Ross too, but he had alot of women in his life that we dont know anything about.Nobody speaks of Tatiana, they dated briefly (probably the same amount he dated Tatum O Neil) he also had someone he was gonna marry in the 80's, I think she was black or biracial, not 2 sure about this, but I know I read it somewhere. I think Henry Vacarro had some letters/photos of the two. In his later yrs he was with european and some arabic woman.
It was DIana he was trying to marry in the 80s and 90s and until he passed. But he was actually engaged to Di in the 80s and she ran off and married Arne because the press kept ragging her about the age difference...They wanted to break them up because they didn't want the top superstar in the world with a black woman!!
I just imagined...He was in his underwear laundering and she helped him to do that in her underwear. He was a great kisser and she stayed with him at night but they never had sex. What a situation...I mean it's so stupid and ridiculous to talk about her experience with Michael this way.
@Fashion4life I feel you on the Prince tip. I quit fantasing about his little ass a long time ago as a teen when I realized he had a definite preference for Hispanics & wouldn't give a regular black chick the time a day. I think the last sista he dated was Patrice Rushen in like the 70's when he was still an up and coming artist. He turned his back on black women after he got a little money, which unfortunately is a familiar story unless it's a rapper (They stay true to the game).
@marcia7523 Yeah exactly, I've heard the same thing. I think he was, people cant seem to understand that the public MJ/Media portrayal of MJ wasnt really how he was all the time. He had alot of girls Im sure, that we dont know nothing about... I heard by a friend, that he apparently was gonna get married with some biracial/black woman in the 80's but she said no? Dont know much about that tho.. perhaps u know more?
Just in case people didn't know, being black doesn't mean you HAVE to date black women. Being part of a certain race doesn't mean you got to date your own and not doing so doesn't mean you're turning your back on your roots. Throughout his career he had contact w/ lots of beautiful girls who happened to be white, if he like that so be it. But the man did believe in race equality & it showed. I mean he liked blondies, so? I like Asian men and black men and I'm Latin. It's just a matter of taste.
JKYB7088 lmaooo yeah but he did date black women. his 1st love was a black woman and he lost his virginity to a black woman. he loved all races, but he definitely loved his kind of women.
Electric Soul I will tell u as I have studied him for years. He was deeply in love with a black woman who wanted to keep their relationship in the closet (ITC) and pretend they were just friends ( JGF ) because of the age difference. And the media making fun of it He tried to marry her for over 20 yrs! And CONSTANTLY talked about how much he loved/ wanted to marry her. He begged/ pleaded and wrote almost all his love and heartbreak sings about her. ( BG, ISB, DWA, DANG, SPCHL) etc ....He complains in many songs about her running off with another man after he spent tons of money on her (WII, LG, IJCSLY, LMA, DD) etc tons if songs about her... He married Lisa after begging her fie yrs that's what Invincible was about her refusing to marry him after promising him for yrs, and letting him spend all that money He married Lisa to make her jealous and angry so she would come back. That's why he FAKE married Lisa, and tried to annul the fake marriage 3 months after the tacky ass ceremony in DR. And that's why he flippantly got another woman pregnancy, and blew off Lisa's begging to stay together. He FORCED the divorce on her, while she followied him all over the world begging for another chance, and offering 9 babies. That's why she never got another chance, because he just wasn't interested in her... As for Debbie, she agreed to give him children, and he took her up on it. He never planned to marry her, and even Debbie admits he never loved her as more than a friend, but at that time, I think she was just hoping he would chg his mind.. It was his mom who begged him to marry Debbie so the kids would not be illegitimate.... I think he tried a little, since Debbie ( unlike Lisa) actually IS a very good woman, but his heart was never in it.Then in 99 the one he'd been in love with forever called and said she might divorce her husband, and he immediately took off to see her, and comfort her, he came back a whole week later, and told Debbie it was over, and filed for divorce...
But he wasn’t just into white women stupid, and the whites women Tat, Brooke and Lisa really the only ones believable that he dated were not blonde. He was in love with Diana Ross.
Yeh, I know what your saying. But Diana Ross, Webster, Stephanie Mills, etc. predate the change that occured. The early MJ, true, what you say. I just couldn't help but notice after that time phased out, he made several apparent changes-not his color because he couldn't help that-but other numerous changes. I still love the guy, but I'm just being real. That doesn't take away his tremendous talent and humanitarianism, it just places his humanitarianism at different levels and degrees.
I don't get why people like white girls Michael should have stick with black queens they are stong and beautiful and masculine and feminine at the same time love them and Michael Jackson king of pop rest in peace
@rocknroll773 Okay well that contradicts to what he said in the 80's/90's, where it's said that John showed him Ola from the playboy issue and then agreed with having her as the girl. Why does it speak volume? Because remember he only loved LMP, Debbie Rowe was just a surrogate/friend of his who offered to give him babies, Kate Jackson made him marry her. He was never with Blankets mother, she was just a surrogate.
Fashion4life Only loved Lisa!!!! Are u crazy? If he loved lisa, he would have Married her for real!!! That tacky ass marriage was a total fake!! And he stayed away from Lisa, so much she was calling and crying to his mom! He moved Lisa from the house, and threw her out of the hospital!! He made all his love Dedications to Diana Ross! He made all his CD love msgs to Diana... He had a shrine to Diana He flew across the world to see Diana! (He wouldn't even go home and see Lisa!!!) He named his foundation after Diana! He often wore her face on his clothes, He called her his World! He called her " the most important woman in his life!" He spent over 20+ yrs trying to marry Diana, and tried to DUMP Lisa in the FIRST YEAR!!! He was married to Lisa, when he put a picture of Di in his history album inset wrapped in his arms with a note saying:. " To DIANA, with all my love!! Then at the bottom he wrote: "I Love you_ DiANA!!! While Married to Lisa!!! He was letting lisa know: ( She's the Love of my life?! _ not you!!!)
He wanted to crossover tho, thats the reason I think he did what he did. But I remember him saying something like " black people just play one type of music" pre 90's.But then again you never know with Prince lol...Good musician tho.. .I agree with you, rappers marry mostly black women, but sometimes you hear stupid people saying shit too. I always found it interesting how black men talk badly bout black women, but you never hear nobody else doing that, regardless of their feelings of their own.
Fashion4life Lies! He said at the Harlem convention in the 90s that BLACKS invented almost every kind of music!! He then began to name them off!! Then he talked about white ppl stealing our stuff and pretending they invented it!? So u are a damn liar!!
Nothing in my comment suggest that I don't agree with you. I merely respond to comments using common sense just keeping it real. Bad or good has nothing to do with it. I simply was stating clear observation. I am 45. I grew up on MJ and have always been a fan, buying every mag, watching every vid over, and over, and over. I learn to dance like him...to a degree, I learned to imitate him singing and as a teen I resembled him, not intentionally, until his disease and operations kicked in.
@Fashion4life When I was a teen I use to see stories of them in Black Beat and Right On magazines, so I just assumed it was true. Who is Tamar? And you know I wondered how in the world Nona was lucky enough to sing a duet with him.
Thank you! Nobody seems to get it. They always bring up the time when he was black. He even had a white secret family that he chose. Everything close and intimate was white over the past 20yrs or so. So I agree too, cut the BS!
No johnaio what you don't get is that THAT was who the media pushed to the front to be seen. For instance he and Whitney were hot and heavy and planning to move in together at one point-the media NEVER talks about that. He constantly talked about how much he loved Diana, and wanted to marry her, they do their best to obscure that. He thought Beyoncé was too hot for words, and def expressed a lot of interest in dating her,, once again they never talk about that. Many say that he and gorgeous Naomi were getting it in, once again no word on that. There was a black doctor Susan somebody very dark, very smart, very educated and driven He told her she had the exact genes he wanted for his children, and offered to pay her to have a baby for him. She said that she told him no, because she would not want to give up her child! She said he was angry and annoyed, and mentioned something about it being too hard to get a baby from a black woman, and that's why he used a white one.... But my point is she was very dark, if he had a problem with color-he certainly would NOT use her...
@@tameralynn3689 Really? Did u know he had them paternity tested at birth becuz he didn't trust Debbie? Did u know his father Joe had a Native Father ( Samuel Jackson) and a half white mom ( krystal king?) Did u know thst Joe had. Bluish green eyes, and many Whitish ppl on his side of the fam, and that. Some of his brothers didn't look black at all.. Did u know that Paris has a biracial cuz ( Jahmia Southerland) in the Jackson family who looks just like her? Same whitish skin blue eyes same features... And that Jahmia has a brother who looks just like Prince? Did u know that Prince looks just like his Indian grandpa ? Same big head, same head shape, same. Look... Did u know that MJ had 2 auto immune diseases ( vitiligo and lupus) that destroyed his melanin so badly, he was unable to genetically give his children any color? Lastly, if I think those kids are too white to be Michael's. Please explain where Janet got her white 👶 from? And he looks just like one of MJ'S kids as a baby!! Those are Michael's kids...
Seriously? Lots of people viewed him as a god. Myself included at one time. Many people get criticized. It's life. The more people that know you, the more critics you'll have.The man wasn't perfect. Everyone on earth has a reason for what they do and there will be critics no matter what. Betrayal and selling out are your words. Given the unique history of blacks, there is something to be said about publicly doing such things. Impossible to relate if you're not black. Anyway, I have a life.Done
@marcia7523 Oh okay, as far as I know it was just professional... He had a huge crush on her (it's rumored) but nothing ever happened. Tamar is one of his proteges in the 00's, I think she's actually the only one of ALL his proteges that could sing, however he moved on very quickly and dropped her after awhile. They were gonna do an album together/ they did, but it was never released, however all of his other girls have had albums released. Strange =/ She was just a fling tho. xD
@marcia7523 Oh yeah I forgot about Denise Matthews. I don't know how I could though, because it seems as though every woman he's had since her looks about like her.
He was a music god but you can't label someone as THE God just because he's supported. And yeah, that's life but why do people feel they gotta do the same instead of changing their views on certain actions, for example Michael dating white women or preferring them over other ethnicity? Those are my words based on what I read here, not just your comments but many others who clearly suggest that's what happened as he "changed" it's ridiculous, he chose his life, whether people like it or not.
JKYB7088 sorry all u have to do is look at the facts. MICHAEL dated about 10 black girls, so to say he preferred white is too stupid!! The media only wanted to SHOW THE WHITE ONEs...
I've come to realize that he wasn't a god. People stick up for this man more than they will take a stand for God. I've dated most races, but I didn't exclude black, nor did I just favor white kids and whites in general. There is something to be said about one who does that (referring to what MJ did). If you're young, you don't know what it's like to follow and see the changes. We older folks have lived watching the changes almost from day one. I really don't care who dates who.Simple observation
You don't know what you're talking about. HE did NOT favor whites. The love of his life was a black woman he tried to marry for 20+ years and he desperately wanted babies by her, and he obviously knew they wouldn't be white! His kids are white because he had 2 auto immune diseases that prevented him from being able to pass on melanated cells to his children...please research-then speak...
wtf is u talkin bout? yes he dated black girls when he was black but when he started turnin a white color he started datin white girls and he liked white girls when he was black
Keira Wilkins you sound dumb.... he always liked black girls. mostly every woman in his videos were black and plus his 1st love was a black woman, Diana ross. but she got married and he tried to get over her.. he lost his virginity to a black woman also. & he never was white no matter what his skin disease did, he has black DNA.
mikespyt so stfu cuz obviously u don't know wtf u talkin about and then u talkin all dis other shit about him i already know he had vilitigo ik all dat stuff about Michael Jackson u don't so stop always thinkin u miss goodie two shoes
NO they weren't Keira. Diana was the LOHL! She was having him date other women to cover it up because she was embarrassed about the age difference...But these are some of the remarks he made about Diana .... Diana Ross is the most important person in the world to me, and I have never loved any woman as much as I love her... Diana is really beautiful, the perfect woman- I hope she marries me... Diana is really beautiful and motherly perhaps she'll marry me one day... Diana was my first love.... I write these songs to and for the most important woman in my life-motioning to Diana .... Diana is the most important woman in my life, and she knows that.... They were faking it for the camera. MJ did not want to, but Diana was forcing him to pretend they were 'just friends' they had been lovers since he was 19, and he had been trying to marry her since he was 20! She was the LOHL...
