I meant "prescribers". Dr. Klein "made" Michael children with his own sperm. So he should (besides his professional obligation) have had special interest to support the health of especially this patient. This in the (to be broader seen) interest also for HIS BIOLOGICAL children, so that they have a healthy social father that cares optimal for the. But as it looks, Dr. Klein (as a special close relation to Michael, see making kids for him) was also a pain-killer-prescriber to Michael.
whether you or other distant persons matter the relationships- this is NOT the question. The question is the constellation and the and interests and dynamics of/between the involved persons. All I say is: this const. was not TOO healthy for ALL involved persons. What an awful situation for the kids...the nearer one looks at it, the more disgusting and uncopable is ev.thing: Michael died through med. that were - as the press writes - prescripted over years ALSO from Klein!
@Pianda ...If Dr. Klein didn't give him the drugs someone else would. We can't put it all on the doc. MJ's family knew that he was on drugs so that should have been more forceful in confronting him about it and getting him into rehab. That is what family and true friends are suppose to do.
thank you for this answer :-)) I think, it's worth to talk about all these untypical and intensive and broad medical procedures, Michael had started (and were done by professional medical doctors) in the public sphere! And about the prescripted painkillers! You see an addiction on every photo of Michael since 19XX. It was written in press before. Why the heck should several body-checking doctors NOT HAVE noticed this!Did especially the subscribers "not see" the addiction, everyone else saw?
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Since years ago, i always thought he was only fcking famous singer who became a kidnapper. Honnestly, i was a total ignorant. So the day i heard he died, i wanted to know more about him, what i found out? Everything i thinked about him on latest periods was false. Now, all i got to say is: R.I.P and i hope someday the rest of peope realizes the truth the same way i did.
If he's not the father and not into sensationalism why won't he just say he is not the father? This guy is just like everybody else trying to get fame off of Michael Jackson. He probably is not the father, but likes the attention.
he is a professor but is said to have no important publications. One big theme: Michael took Lorazepam against anxiety. AND BENZODIAZEPINE. I was recently told that benz. makes even more addicted then Heroine! PPL do not come clean, as hard they try! Benz. is said to make anxious! So Michael had to take Lorazepan against the effects of benzodiazepine. WHO the heck started to (and continued with addiction-effect) give benzodiazepine to the father! Michael?A med. that MUST make addicted?
@Pianda He had it and he did bleach himself white. He probably did it because he got sick of filling in the white spots with dark makeup and decided to bleach the dark areas instead. Nothing wrong with it.
What I found recently about Michael: watch "Living with Michael" on youtube! Such an inspired person was gradually killed by constant giving of painkillers. Under these medicine one normally does operations. Opening the breast, amputing the legs! How could anyone (doctor) set Michael under such a total anesthesia?
MJ did have vitiligo.he never once said he used laser treatments! HE DID say he had to even out the skin color and he resorted to patching it up to a lighter COLOR. But I am a certified pharmacy technician and biller, i deal with medication and Benzodiazapines everyday, all day. you can not say that someone is taking a Lorazapam to help deal with the effects of Benzodiazpine, that is an oxymoron. Benzo is what each anxiety medication is classified as. The same as how vicodine is Hydrocodone
I don't like this vitiligo-nonsens. This was only a given reason for becoming white for the public! Michael wanted to be a white person bc. he couldn't cope with the fact of rass-discrim. which he learned very well by growing up AND the fact that he was popstar No.1. For him this was an unsolvable conflict! So he wanted to become of white skin. Look what he changed: 1) voice (harder, more rock voice=white),2) the clothes (white clothes=Sacco etc.),
two days ago the second phase began: Klein claimd custody for the two children, being the biological father! What absurd constellation: the biological father is always nearest to the social father. He gives him drugs over years (the other bological father Brando gets the medicine with these prescpts.). The social father dies, the biological fathers remain with super-rich children. Was Michael only used?Klein, please don't strengthen too much the priorily position of Michael, this raises doubts!
2 other points: 1) he is a professor from Ucla-University. Tell me: is it common standard that professors lend their sperma for kids of other persons, especially their patients? 2) Klein is dermatologist with cosmetic surgery: so now we know, who probably has made all the absurd operations Michael had. Klein (and colleques) apparently also did not sayx "no" in this case. 3) Michael had vitiligo; ah, yes??? : oh, tell me more, please! So WHO bleached the skin of Michael for what reason?
@Pianda MJ's whole skin was not white, but when he went into public he had to even it out because the majority of it was turned. So he wore make up to even it out. I have two friends with vitiligo - one with dark skin and one with fair skin and they both have the same problem. When they take pictures or go out they put on makeup to make their skin look one color.
for becom. a celebrity not written publications are not sufficient :-))You make a star an addict, so he asks for (actually forbidden) stuff for home-use. You then have a special supplier-custom-relation that restricts exit of both sides. You can rely on the never ending demand of the "patient" and within this exclusive relation you can livelylong claim: "Michael Jackson is my patient" in the sense of: "because I'm seemingly such a good doctor".That you are more of a dealer no side mentions
he had to go to police office, bc. he gave Michael Jackson presriptions under false name - so I read! It was said that he had also given Michael the hard stuff! Over years! And Miko Brando (seemingly father of Blanket) had got the med. for Michael
@Pianda lorazepam is one of the lest addictive of the benzo class. I'm sure the man had an extreme forms of anxiety/panic disorder. hence the need to be actually put to sleep. vitiligo causes extreme blotchy-ness of the skin once a certain percentage of the body turns to white then the next treatment options are , either wear black make up constantly, or go with the white make up constantly, or remove the rest of the pigment of the the non effected skin, all of which are around 80 percent.
1) Quote from associatedcontet: "Arnold Klein refuses to take a DNA paternity test to find out for certain if he is Michael Jackson's children's biological father. Arnold Klein feels that it serves no purpose other than noise, and that Michael Jackson's children will not benefit from the results of the test. " BUT: we have to put the sentences in correct sense/motivs: After MJ's death he had to motives to lance he is biolog. father:
@Pianda Lorazepam is one of the lest addictive of the benzos. I'm sure the man had an extreme form of anxiety/panic disorder. hence the need to be put to sleep. Vitiligo causes extreme blotchy-ness of the skin once a certain percentage around 80 percent. of the body turns to white then the next treatment options are , either wear black make , or go with the white , or remove the rest of the pigment, imagine the microscope he was under. I'm not a fan but damn be a little understanding.
@cblazer I still can't hear the "vit-shit" as a reason-but got some understanding why Michael so urgently asked for medicine to sleep. It's true that the doctors enabled this addiction, but if this guy has become addicted he will adress all doctors for the stuff and they will see the "med." indication".Unfortunetaly Klein was the one who started the addiction-process,so he still doesn't get "my understanding"-he is the biological father of the kids-how shall they cope with Klein's add-role?
Oh, well, that's a big news: Debbie Rowe is said to have sued Klein making Michael addicted! So I seemingly was in pulse with the story and asked the right questions! How did it happen that MJ could become addicted! He was only short and seldom in hospital, but had gotten the Propofol over larger time spans, so he could become addicted. Prescribing MJ Propofol without he being in hospital is a crime.Who did that? Debbie Rowe, a former empl. of Klein sues Klein for this: is that the answer?
So, if the prosecution process turns out that several ppl prescripted MJ Propofol and Demerol (with false indication and for home-use) and if the question comes up: "who originally supported an addiction by constantly prescribing these med. for non-hospital-use out of personal interest" then the hell has room for more than one doctor. Besides Murray Klein is named (and also two German doctors)...wait and see...my biggest question: time-prifile is needed: who helped MJ becoming addicted?
Michael in the end is said to have had skin-cancer! That the bleaching (and the biochemical procedures done besides) would cuase cancer was already mentioned 15 years ago. So, IF KLEIN DID ALL THESE operations, what the hell does this man stand for?
dermotologist are not plastic sureons. Thats a whole other field. Another thing, this guy explained why michel's skin turned to that color. Jackson had a ral bad case of vitiligo called universal vitiligo there are different types. And those kids look a little tan and cute to be his. Also, what Klein did contribute to is botox and filler injections. watch the larry king interview!
This is one of the absurdest constellations I 've ever heard of: A star get's children from his "friends" resp. "advisors." He is the social father, the other two are the biological fathers. They "advice" Michael: give them drug prescriptions (Klein) and realize them (Brando). The social father dies, the two biological fathers remain - with ultra-rich-kids, no concurrent (social father) alive! TOO BAD this story is!
I disagree partly: M had big trouble, starting in 1993 with the molest.process and continuing 2005! He personally came into a non-copable situation. In this s. he acted like an addict: he wanted drugs to flle the psychological load! And he always found doctors who - for money - "helped" him. So they supported and grounded an addict-personality that had no other coping-mechanisms. The fact, that MJ got this med. from DOCTORS and not from drug-dealers makes this story so special and criminal!
it's worth to write all the relevant facts and clues! I'm sure, even Debbie Rowe watches this video and reads the comments. Police also. So we just stress what helps to come to the core, the cause of Michael's unbelievable death AND his longlasting addiction (which on the other hand makes death understandable). WHO ARE THE RELEVANT ACTORS around MJ's death/addiction AND WHAT DID THEY WHEN in what mode DO?
Murray made 3 phone calls while Michael was dying. The first one is said he did with Arnold Klein! Before they said not to know each other. It seems clear that Murray wanted to discuss the med.-question of MJ with Klein (bc. they could see that MJ was not able to perform). So he probably phoned with Klein bc. Klein was the "specialist" out of EXPERIENCE in this case.Having given MJ Propofol and oth. med. for years!MJ looked stoned in the last video:who is responsible for this personal dev.?
So Dr. Klein didn't even help protecting the father of his own kids from med.-addiction. This is all such a weird story. But the weirdness results out of concrete behaviour of actors and interests of acteurs. Which interests did Dr. Klein really have?
one day after I wrote this the 2nd phase has started: Klein twoday claimed custody -as being the father! What an awful constellation: the biological fathers (incl. Brando) are always around the social father! Now the biological fathers are the only alive - and claim for "their" children. Michael was only a paying idiot. These circumstances are so unfortunate, esp. for the kids. As it looks, also for Michael!!!
good for you i agree mj trusted the doctors someone put it in his head that it was safe as long as a doctor watched him i work at a hospital and i want that quack put in prison for at the leeast manslaughter and the others should lose the liscence to practice.arnold klein should concentrate on staying out of trouble too and leave the jackson chilsren alone.i think michael is the biological father.
Michael was obviously a physically destroyed person in the end. This destruction took a long time. The hole period while Michael raised his kids (which could be "donated" by Klein). So there were a lot of affected people around the Propofol/medical/-addiction-Process. Murray only "fulfilled" the very end.But WHO began this process that unpreventably led to the destruction of Michael+ finally to his death? WHO is at the beginning of this process and who fed this addiction constantly?
2) a) he knew that police found Propofol-presc. FROM HIM (Klein) in MJ's house! So he wanted to make points with being biol.father b) he wanted publicity being biolog. father NOW, where police follows prints of his Propofol.prescr. AND after Debbie Rowe is willing to show HOW and THAT Klein is respons. for MJ's med.addiction (+ p.hps. after my focussed statements) he is in defensive position:proving that he is the father would not be too positive when sued as Propofol-add.-supporter of MJ!
Please, google for these names: "Omar Arnold, Fernand Diaz, Peter Madonie und Josephine Baker +Klein." under these names Klein prescr. Propofol to Michael! The police in June found a receipt for "Omar Arnold" in Michael's house. The prescription for this made Arnold Klein. This would mean, that Klein prescr. Michael propofol UNTIL HIS END! Was he also the prescriber at the BEGINNING of Michael's addiction?????? If the kids are also from Klein, this would be uncopable for the kids!+Fans!
Probably Murray phoned with Klein AFTER and BECAUSE Michael had JUST DIED! So the two Propofol-giver wanted to discuss how to behave when police and public is coming into play! So, the question is. did Murray phone with Klein BEFORE or AFTER he realized that Michael was DEAD!
Lmao...my statement wasn't arguing with the fact that he needed to blend in his loss of pigmentation! He indeed had vitilligo and however he chose to blend it is up to him..weather it be from laser or NOT. But you originally said he solely used laser to turn white, u forgot to mention his main reason for using laser treatment. I was defending the fact that he had vitiligo. Now if u agree that he had a skin disorder and used chemical peels to "blend" it in then that is believable
becoming white like Michael does not function with cream alone! There must have been intensive chemical procedures to get that result! So within this biochemical process there are sev. stages. The getting white will happen gradually. White spots are normal on this way - until the procedure came to an end. Interesting is,what the chemial procedure means for the organism.I imagine no good for the skin + the whole body!Singing without nose also strikes me but:partly-nose-prothesis seems fact!
Ok. if he had a fake nose, he would be unable to sing. Admittingly he did a lot to his nose, but there is no way he did not have his nose, Photoshop anyone?
omgosh, he just admitted MJ's not the bio father :| he looks so scared he talks bullshit. am sure he suffers pangs of conscience and this matter weighs on him so much for he's guilty of his death and surely knows who the father is, i only hope it's not him cos he's such a terrible dishonest thing :|
of course you're not the lawyer, you're the liar and am sure you'll soon have to do with law. maybe it's only me but I think he's pretending to be so sick and in pain :| wot a guy!
