You’re crazy …. Adding Oregon Washington Usc Ucla is awesome as a season ticket holder …. The schedule has been stale the past couple years but now all the home games will be much better moving forward
Awesome...so you can play Indiana, Iowa, Minnesota, Rutgers, Northwestern, Illinois. All junk teams, that are only happy to go 7-5 in a good year. The only viable programs are Ohio St and Michigan.
@@A1Googler you didn't just don't think that your bottom half could easily walk over the Big 12's bottom half. The bottom half of the Big 10 is hot garbage.
@@unc0mm0n2 rofl. I knew it wouldn't take long before someone said it's always been a business... Of course it has dude. That's how colleges made their money off of sports back in the day. They give players a full-ride scholarship, and in return use them to make money off sports. Re-read what I wrote about a modern-day business. It's a corporation now. Not just a business.
@@gabeswitala2292 nope. I never personally wanted a playoff system. It hasn't been the past few decades. I knew it would eventually ruin the game. Now look at it. Another NFL. Conference realignment. Transfer portals. Paying players millions, ect.
@@atrain132 Damn dude, you're dated. It was an even more corrupt business before the modernization. It was just easier to get away with the BS. A full ride is not enough for a football player spending 40 plus hours on football then being expected to go to class FT. That's insane, and it's not just the football players, the other athletes as well. The old college football model was robbing from peasants and feeding the rich, willfully and for too long the AP and Coaches decided a NC - what? GTFOH! Since you're a Michigan fan like me, tell me we didn't screwed after tying OSU in 1973. Alabama gets a share of the NC after losing to ND in the so-called title game? PSU was undefeated that year and didn't get a chance to play for NC? And mind you, that's when Paterno was in his prime and still great high school football in Pa. Change man, stop living in the past.
Nebraska makes more sense than Maryland and Rutgers? Let's negate the fact that so many Big Ten alumnus settle in the Northeast and signs big checks whenever alma mater visits.
Michigan fans are just worried that Rutgers and Maryland will pass them. Especially Rutgers, which is close to explode on the scene due to market and size.
Big business is killing college football just like it did for the NFL. I no longer watch the NFL and I fear college football is headed down the same path.
I have been a Michigan fan for over fifty years and I am excited to see the four Pac12 schools play in the Big10. It will increase the ratio of good games to blowouts. So the competition will be much better.
Love your guest. Rarely hear someone inside the P2 - much less a voice from one of the blueblood programs - speak with such humility and disdain for the business of realignment. Regionality and tradition have died.
I can't help but feel like if FSU joins, they'd be the destination trip all the big10 fans would want to go to and as an fsu fan I'd love to visit the big cities of the big10..
I grew up in B10 country, graduated from UMN and even spent a summer at UW- Madison. Mi is my favorite B10 football program then MN (underdogs now), WA, and LSU. I remember Woody v. Bo, heck I remember Bama's goal line stand against PSU. Your guest is stuck in the past. The sport is national. There have been way too many teams in FBS for decades. The old way of crowning a NC even up to BCS era was absurd, typically unfair, almost always controversial, and is even more dated now. I do love the college spirit ethos, but such can change and reflect new teams and cross-regional cultures. I don't give an F about exclusive regionality anymore. I fought for this country as a whole, not the Midwest, Northeast or Southwest, etc. Give me the best 68 FBS programs historically, split them between 3 conferences, have a 16 - team playoff, cap NIL, regulate transfer portal and have a damn draft since the kids are getting paid. Recruiting will be viewed as dated within the next decade. It's so silly and impossible to uniformly regulate recruiting, especially with NIL and transfer portal madness. If your guest wants to go back to the original B10, even before PSU - good luck. The high school talent is predominantly down South now. If back to the old B1G10, instead of Michigan waiting an average of 40+ years between titles in the Poll era, first round exits would become the norm. Younger kids actually want to see the greater nation and world - travel. Yes, I get parents would feel the pinch of travel. But I don't think the players would mind. The BIG is now national. Let's keep it that way and simply have a FBS premier division that models the NFL. My only problem with my wish list above: how do we make it fair for FBS teams with half the seats in their stadium compared to the likes of Michigan, Bama, FSU, UGA, USC, TX, OSU, Tenn, etc. - huge stadiums. In the professional leagues of Canada and USA, stadium uniformity is pretty close.
Hey, I have no problem with adding those West Coast 4. I’d like to see Utah and San Diego State too. As well as Florida State, Miami, and Notre Dame. Top off at 24. Go to a 16 team playoff. Have the SEC pick up more schools and the ones they don’t go to the Big 12. Get to 3 big conferences with a 16 team playoff among themselves. It’s the reality of the legal and marketplace landscape.
This is a goofy episode. Two ppl complaining about bygone eras instead of looking forward to what’s going to happen and how it could benefit their school.
It was changing so the conference joined in. I'm personally happy with the 4 West Coast teams joining in. The season will have more entertaining games instead of blowouts. All this being said, I hate the end of our conferences and traditions. But, things evolve for better or worse.
Right now college football is unbalanced in favor of those large universities who are basically diploma mills with good sports programs. Think Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, LSU, and others where you don’t really have to be all that bright to get in and where with the 12-team playoff, deep-pocket donors for NIL, and a transfer portal as well regulated as our southern border you’re basically guaranteed a playoff berth just for showing up. Anyone who thinks expanding the playoff solves anything has too many valued customer stars punched on their dispensary cards. Instead of “Should 1-loss Alabama get in over undefeated FSU,” you’ll have “Should 3-loss LSU get in over 1-loss Duke,” and the answer will be “Yes; they’re more talented!” Until the playoff has an objective scoring system (like the BCS), and NIL and the transfer portal are regulated, it’s really just pay for play for the schools who can afford it. Everyone else is just a farm system for those schools.
Sure it’s a sad to see conferences go away but revenue sports are all about making more money and realignment inevitable. If players get paid, then we can no longer feel sorry for scholar athletes.
Spot on! It’s annoying that Notre Dame is being “holier than thou” when it comes to joining the Big Ten. As a former Michigan student, it would be a natural fit to have them join, but I think if they did- then it would be a rude awakening because they would be crushed often more in the Big Ten. The schedule is more rigorous than the lame teams they play year after year. Fun fact, I live in south Florida (Miami area). I would rank ACC teams based on academics- NOT money… remember that higher education is about learning and not about making money. Tied for #1 are UVA & UNC, #3 Miami, #4 FSU. There is not #5 because there is steep drop in academics and revenue… sorry Clemson.
It’s college sports. The fan bases are replenished yearly with new fans who attend the college and no one really cares about the feelings of fans that graduated 20 years ago. The games are multi-hour commercials for universities to drive up applications. Donors should probably be placed on some watchlist for being insane.
Yall be itched for decades about having a consensus NC. No split honors for multiple groups of college students who accompanied great things seperstely. Now you got what you wanted and now yall just be itch even louder as if yall didnt think there would be consequences to your demands.
I think alot of sports media want at the end of the season a bunch of undefeated teams who played 1 good team all year so they can have an endless debates for off-season content that why alot of them went from "omg kids aren't getting paid" to "omg kids r getting paid"
The majority of fans think the super leagues are great and want to watch the Bluuuuuueeeeee bloods play each other yearly! FSU and Clemson should go to the B1G! Would love to have UNC as well Miami in the B1G! But the sec wants UNC and skanky and patootie have been talking allot in the past months and I'm sure they agreed to split the big blue blood in the acc, so FSU to the B1G and UNC to the sec, is the most likely scenario.
Your guest is suffering from an adjustment disorder. He hasn’t made peace with the reality of the change and what’s driving it. It’s the law, court cases, player compensation, media markets, and recruiting grounds. To a much lesser extent, it’s academics/research compatibility. The only thing in life that doesn’t change is change itself. When a person isn’t accepting and coping with change it’s called an adjustment disorder.
You can tell how a guest will answer based on when they started being a fan. Michigan was one of the teams against PSU joining claiming travel difficulties among other things.
Can you explore the chances of Antitrust lawsuits and the chances of the courts breaking the Big 10 and SEC up, if they cherry pick the Big 12 and ACC?
It appears that your guest does not feel that lots of money is needed to keep sports going. Without lots of money, many Olympic sports might not survive. Is it best for the fans for smaller sports to die? Does he understand that Rutgers has brought tons of extra money to the B1G since day one. The huge new TV contracts specifically included comments about having the NYC market. NYC to Chicago to LA. No RU or Northwestern, no NYC or Chicago. Obviously without USC/UCLA no LA. B1G would get tens of millions per team less. Goodbye to some sports. Sounds like an arrogant Michigan fan. He knows ND fans, so they are OK. Does he know that the University of California has not joined the B1G? He does realize that UCLA is a different school, I hope. Why is Miami, a private school with small alumni base, feel natural for the B1G?
Eventually the only schools with Non-Football/Soccer, Non-Basketball, and maybe Non-Softball/Baseball sports will be those with money left over to sponsor them. Schools will not give up their Football and likely Basketball programs. This hurts other sports way more than it hurts college football.
UF will block FSU to sec and Sankey does not want the headache of their athletic dept I think big 10 will pursue UNC because of academics My guess is the sec won't pick up more than 2 schools, likely Clemson being one of those schools, but they will be depleting their overall talent level to be adding more than 2 or so schools. More schools with less talent does not equal more tv dollars....
@richardhead-sw2qc With the addition of ND and FSU, FOX is prepared to pay the big ten as much as $100 million per member per year. espn couldn't even come close to they. So bite me.
Michigan voted against PSU joining along with Indiana and Michigan State. Michigan never believes expansion is an option. The irony is they were not a founding member, they left after becoming a member due to their arrogance and then rejoined. When Michigan is good they think they're kings. When they're bad they think athletics is beneath them. There's a reason the "Big House" sounds like a library most of the season. I don't pay attention to any opinion UM has on any conference expansion matters.
There's nothing tragic about business models changing. Tradition is nothing but a nickel holding up a dollar. Grow the hell up. You act like big ten schools 10 capitalized recruiting to Northeast 😂
