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Mickey Bakers Jazz Guitar Book - Chord Analysis

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Checkout another course lesson from my upcoming Udemy course where I look at Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar Book and analyze notes of a D13b5b9 chord.
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@jamro217 3 года назад

Part of deciphering chords is to understand the context in which they are applied. The most obvious are the common notes ones such as C#/Db. Some chords can fit into multiple keys just by not identifying the root. For example: F, G#/Ab, B, D can be used as a transitional chord that resolves to numerous possibilities. Just about any chord one half step up or down from any of the notes will work. How you name it depends on the musical circumstances in which it is found. No wonder most people hate jazz!

@garethsigrist8714 Месяц назад

I just got a copy of Mickey Baker’s book as I dip a toe into the world of jazz (like a lot of people I heard this book referenced by Mr Robben Ford) and exactly as you described, I’m working through the chords at the beginning and get to that D13b5b9 and was very confused! “Wait a minute, where’s the root!?” 😂 I realise this video is a few years old but thank you for making it. I expected that learning jazz would be challenging but being presented with that chord on page 1 had me questioning everything I thought I knew 😂

@GuitarBasement Месяц назад

Glad it helped. Perhaps Mickey just had a sense of humor and threw it in to get a reaction!

@andrewmorley6559 2 года назад

In his book Modern Method for Guitar Volume 1(Berklee College), William Leavitt calls this same Chord Ab7(#9), page 121. It is used in a similar sequence at the end of Exercise 2: G, Am9, Ab7(#9) resolving to Gma7. Leavitt assigns the Root to the 6th String: Root 6.

@GuitarBasement 2 года назад

That's a good book too. I have the thick 3-volume set with all the pages falling out. You need a strong music stand and a means to hold pages open on that edition!

@ruipinto3499 3 года назад

Excelent! Very pedagogical explanation: thank you! Actually, Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar, for me, is "The Book" of jazz guitar. He doesen't exagerate in theory, focusing on pratice chord progressions, substitutions, intros, endings, and so on until you know it by hear. And he does'nt use too many chords: about two dozens only, in 3rd and 8th positions. This 1955 USA/Australia edition has some mistakes and there is a 20 pgs "errata" issued for free. In 1959 he issued the BOOK 2 of this MICKEY BAKER'S COMPLETE COURSE OF JAZZ GUITAR, (red and yellow cover), with 26 lessons focused on extensions and its aplications on guitar. This book 2 is effectively a more theoretical and advanced book. I got both of them some years ago, via amazon, but actually I knew Mickey Baker through some very old and incomplet (starting in lesson 12) copy version of a more modern corrected/revised version of that BOOK 1, U.K. edition, of 1973. Recently I also got this one (blue cover, with a sequence of black & white M.B. fotos), throught Amazon. Three days ago I decided to restart the study with this book (actually, my main field is classical guitar). I hope, this time to go until finish the second part of book one, that is the solo part. Regards from Maputo, Mozambique.

@GuitarBasement 3 года назад

Thanks Rui, for your kind comments and for the interesting history of the editions. I hope you gain a lot from the book...Regards, John

@bullcrapitis 10 месяцев назад

I got Book 1 way back around 1975 and I still study it occasionally. There is a lot to learn, but it helped me tremendously. I bought Book 2 awhile back, but I haven't spent much time with it yet. Regards, from Warner Robins, Georgia, USA.

@Poopyheaddd 3 года назад

googled this chord since im working with this book and glad I found this video! I was thinking how is this a D13b5b9 if there's no D in this chord and having you explain that the d is omitted I was like 'AHHHH' makes sense. When it comes to jazz and when you're playing with a band most of the time as guitar players we're told not to play the root note in chords so we either leave out the root note since the root is being taken care of by the bass player or we use inversions. This chord can also be a G# Minor 7 Since we have G# (1) B(3) D#(5) F#(7)

@polymerclaymakes Год назад

Thanks for this. I e just started that book and was convinced it must be wrong (despite the book being repeatedly printed for the past 65 years!) Googled all over and you're the first person to explain this. Suddenly it makes sense!

@GuitarBasement Год назад

Cool. Glad I made sense to somebody!

@JoelSebastian Год назад

It's a tritone substitution, to achieve the descending baseline. You can also play a normal G#7 there, and it would then be a (rootless) D7(b5, b9). You can also play a C#maj7 instead of the Gmaj7 *after* this chord, and then it will indeed be a G#7#9 because now it functions as a dominant and not a tritone sub.

@GuitarBasement Год назад

Now you mention it Joel - yes that G# is the tritone of the 5 chord (D7). Thanks for pointing that out.

@extramile734 2 года назад

The great thing about Mickey's book is he shows you grips you alter with just two fingers. take the time get the book, do the first half at least.

@jonathanlee5907 18 дней назад

Thanks, it was only this morning watching another video, after having the book for 20(?) years that it functions as the V chord. I’m a bit slow on the uptake…

@arifq123 Год назад

I bought this book and number 2 back in the 70s - ambitious i guess; thank god for youtube! Thanks for showing us this.

@GuitarBasement Год назад

You're welcome!

@paulhicks3595 3 года назад

Excellent. Just discovered your channel looking for stuff about Mickey Baker. BTW I bought the Mickey Baker book in 1971. I wish I still had it now that I can understand it!

@GuitarBasement 3 года назад

Thanks Paul! I guess you could still get another copy. They go for about $10 or so.

@paulhicks3595 3 года назад

@@GuitarBasement thanks. There’s a chance, of course, that it’s in a random box in that attic, one of those that’s done several relocations without ever being unpacked!

@Ash-fm6ym 3 года назад

@@paulhicks3595 you can download it here mate kupdf.net/download/mickey-baker-jazz-guitar-book-1_58c9ab1edc0d604102339031_pdf#

@mecoun126 3 года назад

Yes, in principle, this is the right approach, but it is not best to build a house from the roof. The most understandable way to touch the guitar is to learn all the chords and their turns (quintakord, sextakord, quartsextakord) in a four-part arrangement, and only then create them from septachords, altera, etc. when it comes to passages. , alternating tones :)))

@GuitarBasement 3 года назад

Wow, is this translated from German? I am no musicologist so I don't know what to say. All I was trying to do was to show why the chord name that Mickey Baker chose for the chord in his book makes sense. I think we all learn and come to music in different ways and that is a wonderful thing. Thanks for commenting.

@mecoun126 3 года назад

@@GuitarBasement Hello, it's translated from Czech ... I hope it's understandable. I wish you a lot of success, especially at this strange time :)

@GuitarBasement 3 года назад

@@mecoun126 Well, music itself is a universal language regardless of words we use to explain it. Thanks for the wishes and I wish all the best to you too!

@gervamelo 2 года назад

this is madness. thanks for explain this, I tryed all day long understand that chord. I'm from Brazil.

@Mike-pv3hg Год назад

Dude....thank you so much. I about ripped that book in half

@GuitarBasement Год назад

Haha... yea you look like the kind of guy who could do that! Glad you found it useful.

@eohippusone 7 месяцев назад

The Baker books are:1) highly recommended, and 2) full of errata. Yikes! What a combination! I've bought both. Hope it's not a waste. (Incidentally, Randy Bachman said Book 2 inspired some of his Guess Who hits. Looking for that magic!)

@GuitarBasement 7 месяцев назад

I don't think it's a waste. That's interesting about Randy Bachman and book 2. BTW, the chord in the video isn't totally a mistake, it's just another (unexpected) name for the chord, even though it has no root note.

@friedcash9815 6 месяцев назад

Ty for analysis of the 'mickey baker chord.' 😃

@GuitarBasement 5 месяцев назад

Your welcome. Glad it made you smile!

@hgostos 4 года назад

At some point I'm going to take the plunge with Bakers' book. I play straight Blues so this will push me out of my comfort zone. Nice editing BTW.

@GuitarBasement 4 года назад

Cool... I love the blues!

@elvisbabah5281 Год назад

I've found a few of the misprints in the yellow book are corrected in the blue book

@GuitarBasement Год назад

That's interesting. Can you give some examples of changes?

@thomassawicki2065 Год назад

GB Whats with the colored dots ? They should have chord tones on them , like 3rd , 7th, b5 etc. Bu the way, the REAL best guitar chord method is in "Joe Pass Guitar Style" The big orange book.

@GuitarBasement Год назад

Hi Thomas. I used colors black for root, red for 3rd, green for 7th and other extensions in yellow. I'll have to check that out the Joe Pass book sometime. Thanks, John

@michaelchiasson9088 2 года назад

Why do you assume the open D string is played muted? It’s not notated that way in the book? It sounds fine played open. This jazz guitar is a trip!

@GuitarBasement 2 года назад

Without re-watching what I said in the video, I think you are referring to the way chords are written in the book. These days there is more of an accepted standard using an X to show muted strings. Since the chord shape for the particular chord type is to be used in different positions, by including open strings you will change the chord type in each case. Playing the open string is fine if you want to include that note in the chord. I hope that makes sense. John

@dougthompson8226 3 года назад

Great book and lesson however I would have showed the ii V I from the 5th fret am7 4th fret D13 flat 5 flat 3rd fret GMaj 7

@GuitarBasement 3 года назад

Hi Doug, thanks. I am not really following what you are saying though. All I was doing in the video was showing the chord as it is named in the book.

@travisporterdeleon2343 4 года назад

You can theoretically make sense of this chord- if you play a D in the bass it sounds terrible. I think it makes way more sense to think of it as a G7#9 (the Hendrix chord) - but could be used as a Tritone Sub for a D chord.. thoughts?

@GuitarBasement 4 года назад

Yes you are right Travis, the chord is easy to think of as - actually a G# chord - not a G. I misspoke in the video. And sure, you can think of it as tritone sub of D. In context, the chord functions as a dominant chord, which is why it can be thought of as a D7 alt. This must be Mickey Baker's reasoning. BTW, I like that dissonance with a low D (separated by couple of octaves on bass!) when it's played in context of a 1-6-2-5-1. But I understand that it's not for everyone! Thanks for making me think tonight!

@arijitsengupta9766 3 года назад

I was exactly searching for this when I came across your video. So, basically you don't play the root (D here), and the unmarked strings should be muted, right?

@GuitarBasement 3 года назад

Hi Arijit, yes you are correct.

@arijitsengupta9766 3 года назад

@@GuitarBasement Thank you 😊

@DennisReichel 3 года назад

In that book the chord forms are moveable so open strings are muted.

@bubu10435 Год назад

The very fact that the chord is 'rootless' makes the ensuing chapters more difficult. Because the author Mickey Baker goes through some chord exercises in the next two chapters and they require you to transpose this 'rootless' chord into the other keys. How does one do that? Provided that all the other 25 chords in the first chapter can be transposed easily I am stuck as to the dominant13b5b9 chord. Is there a way to transpose it to the other keys???

@GuitarBasement Год назад

Well, since it's the same shape for all of them, you can just eyeball the note that's one fret lower than where your 3rd finger is on the 5th string as being the root. Does that make sense?

@bubu10435 Год назад

@@GuitarBasement Well I thought as much. However I was intrigued because it goes beyond the usual conventions of chord fingering in that there are two notes on the same string (even though the root note is only visualized)...more so like an arpeggio. Besides I found a wonderful site dedicated to this book and it has ample notes to every chapter of the book. For the first chapter it has notes on each of the 26 chords and it says that one can visualize the D13b5b9 chord as an Ab7#9 chord with the root on the 6th string. Also it says that any D dominant form can be substituted for any Ab dominant form as the relationship of D to Ab is 6 frets or an augmented 4th/Diminished 5 interval. In modern harmony, chords that are a diminished 5 away from the desired chord can be substituted, usually with few limitations. So one can also envision it as an Ab7#9 chord with root on the 6th when it becomes a more pronounced moveable shape. Thanks for taking the care to explain an obscure concept from a classic jazz text...

@talezman88 4 года назад

Great vid!

@GuitarBasement 4 года назад

Thanks!

@tigerfightsmonkey9268 3 года назад

Very interesting vid - thank you for posting! Are there any example songs of this chord being used in this manner (i.e. as an actual D13b5b9, not as a G#7#9)? If it's not common - which, on first glance, it doesn't seem to be as this video is not the first example of people questioning this chord name/use - it's curious why Mickey Baker listed it as a need-to-know chord.

@GuitarBasement 3 года назад

Thank you! Actually the exercise that I played from Lesson 2 in the book is really a 1-6-2-5 chord progression with some substitutions in it. In the key of G, the basic 4-note diatonic chords would be Gmaj7, Em7, Am7 D7. So naming the chord a D13b5b9 would make sense from the context of how it was used in the place of the D7 chord.

@blinkie7 Год назад

That's how I interpreted it.

@mitreswell 10 месяцев назад

Why is the seventh left out in the name? Couldn't it be called D seventh thirteenth flattened fifth flattened ninth, or is that not possible? As you can probably tell i have very little knowledge of musical theory . . .

@GuitarBasement 10 месяцев назад

In naming chords it's understood that you are building on the 7th chord when a chord has a 9th, 11th, 13th etc.. If these chords do NOT contain the 7th they are called something different. In the case of a 13 chord, a 13th is also a 6th (remember that an 8th is the octave root note). So if you take out the 7th from a D13 it would become a D6. I hope that make sense.

@darrenjones417 3 года назад

What is the best Jazz book from this generation?

@GuitarBasement 3 года назад

Hi Darren, I am no expert on that, but I have watched other videos on RU-vid covering that topic.

@FrancescoCristian Год назад

What I understand from this video is that the position indicated by the book is wrong

@GuitarBasement Год назад

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "the position indicated by the book is wrong." The book is correct in it's use of the chords. However, since there is no explanation about using the name D13b5b9 as a rootless chord, it's just confusing unless you understand the concept of rootless chords. Of course in a band, the D in that chord would be played by the bass player. Does that make sense?

@richarddunn324 2 года назад

In my $1.95 edition I come up against it almost immediately when for chord 4 & 5, Ami7 and Ami6 is shown with a major 3rd. As a result I instantly lost faith in the edition and didn't continue. Is it a book worth returning to do you think? Or would my time be better spent looking at some more modern approaches?

@GuitarBasement 2 года назад

Other than lessons and courses I've taken, I have many books. From time to time I pick up a book and start going through it and usually get something valuable from it. When it comes to learning music I think we all chart our own course. Sometimes one approach may work better than another, and what we learn from one can help to learn from another source. I feel like I'm blabbing! Even though there may be mistakes in Mickey Baker books, I don't think you would be wasting your time going through them. Best of luck!

@WSR1967 4 года назад

Thank you for the video, but I’m still not sure where the D note is being played? I would like to better understand this as I just started Mickey’s book about two weeks ago. Thank you.

@GuitarBasement 4 года назад

Thanks for watching! It's a "rootless chord" on guitar. The D could be played by a bass player.

@dougthompson8226 3 года назад

In jazz players often omit the root in this case the D

@CrowMagnumMan2024 8 месяцев назад

Doesnt this just confuse students.....Im just learning jazz and I have his book and I put it down for this kind of thing.....or am I just that far behind......?

@GuitarBasement 8 месяцев назад

Honestly yes. But think of it like this: An apprentice learning from the old Kung Fu master doesn't know anything in the beginning, but over the years the "grasshopper" starts to understand. That old master knows a lot and may not be able to express it in words, but the dedicated apprentice will eventually learn by copying the master. My theory is that Mickey was more of a player than a teacher yet he wrote his method the way he thought best. He probably thought of that chord in context of the chord progressions where he used it as a substitution. We all learn bit by bit and sometimes, for me, pieces fall into place. I wouldn't get hung up over this chord and just keep moving forward. I think you'll find those pieces falling into place too.

@CrowMagnumMan2024 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the insight...I think I will pick this book up again after I progress further in the fundamentals@@GuitarBasement

@silasmoon 4 года назад

Working through this book, and this chord definitely confused me as to how it was written. Non-sequitur, but if you don't mind my asking, where did you grow up? Your accent is wonderful and almost a mix between Scottish and upstate New York.

@GuitarBasement 4 года назад

Hello Chris, thanks. No I don't mind the question. Actually you are pretty close when you said "almost a mix." I almost live in NY (actually New Jersey), and almost grew up in Scotland (actually Yorkshire, England...not quite as far north as Scotland).

@ronaskew 4 года назад

The chord is actually a Drop 4 and 2 Ab7#9. Used by Mickey Baker as an ultra dominant b5 substitute for D7. The net result is a D7alt.

@GuitarBasement 4 года назад

@@ronaskew Hi Ron, you look like an engineer I know on Long Island called Larry Askew. Are you related? Both of you are obviously very smart. I DID say that my first impression of the chord shape was a G7#9 in the video. Then, I corrected it to G#7#9 in a text note across the bottom of the video. In my own simplified way of looking at it, in a 1-6-2-5 progression I can see how you would want to name the 5 chord as a D7 with extensions. Perhaps that was Mickey's reasoning.

@ronaskew 4 года назад

GuitarBasement Yes. It is logical to interpret a chord with a dominant function as a dominant chord, even if that chord does not contain the dominant root note. The Ab7#9 doesn’t contain a G.

@andrewm3934 4 года назад

I've beenplugging away at this for a bit now. Some weird chord's

@GuitarBasement 4 года назад

Hahaa, well keep plugging away brother.

@JimmerSD 2 года назад

ARRRRGGGG!

@GuitarBasement 2 года назад

Hmmmmm?

@fretboardia 3 года назад

It took me some time to get used to the sound of this chord

@mikehaisell4301 3 года назад

So some chords have no roots?

@GuitarBasement 3 года назад

Yep. Sometimes the root will be played by another instrument such as bass.

@mecoun126 3 года назад

it's not about what you play, but about what's going on in the whole band :)))

@GuitarNerdTexas Год назад

It's not a G chord... It's an Ab7(#9), aka the Hendrix Chord. It's a simple tritone substitution for the D7 chord. You made a simple concept seem complex and didn't even touch the concept of tritone substitution nor why the chord doesn't need to contain a root. If you were my student you would get a C minus.

@GuitarNerdTexas Год назад

Mickey Baker calls it a D13b5b9, which is incorrect. When a chord can have more than one name, it is customary to use the one which is easier to read, say, or spell. Mickey Baker briefly mentions that chords can have more than one name, but never revisits the concept in any depth. Anyway, we know what he meant. It's not a hill any music educator would choose to die on. The harmony is not complicated. No reason to make it so.

@GuitarBasement Год назад

Well I can't claim to be an expert like you, but the point of the video was to decipher the name given to that chord by Mickey Baker. But speaking of the tritone sub, there are a number of exercises in the book where the chord (as Mickey named it) is playing the role of the dominant chord, but its root is not present. Thanks for your comments. C minus huh! I guess I have to improve!

@GuitarNerdTexas Год назад

@@GuitarBasement I'm not always a grumpy old curmudgeon, I just play one on the Internet. On second thought, I'm a grumpy old curmudgeon in real life too... ;-) As a black man in the mid 20th century America, it's likely that MB himself didn't have access to the materials that we take for granted today because of the Internet, He published this book before Johnny B Goode by Chuck Berry was popular. In context and in retrospect, it makes it an even more towering achievement. Kudos for your light hearted reply, but seriously, it's important not to perpetuate incorrect information. In my opinion, as a teacher, it's your responsibility to be concise. Namaste.

@donshekn9114 Год назад

@@GuitarNerdTexas i shouldve known he was black....explains a lot

@andreasschneider4859 3 года назад

I tend to name this chord "harry"- Much easier for me...

@GuitarBasement 3 года назад

Hmmm... wonder you call the other chords?

@GuitarJawn 2 года назад

It still sounds terrible in Lesson 3

@uhoh007 5 месяцев назад

Describing Mickey as a "Jazz Guitarist" misses 3/4 of his influence, LOL.

@GuitarBasement 5 месяцев назад

Yes you are right, there are a number of RU-vid videos that tell about Mickey's interesting story. Here's a video I really enjoy watching that sums up his career: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z6-UZP3_idA.htmlsi=H2jJZ21DJ73t8utX. Well worth watching. I didn't describe him as a jazz guitarist in the video, but he did write a "jazz guitar" book!