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Today we find out how durable the Surface Pro 2 really is! Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at www.stamps.com.... Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Dual screen phones have alway appealed to me. Maybe because Ive always had dual displays for my desktop PC. But.... This Microsoft Surface Duo 2 (running android) doesnt really move my meter. I wish Microsoft would do something new in the moble space... like make a pocket sized computer. What do you think? Let me know down in the comments.
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@Caesar.X 2 года назад

i was about to comment "why didnt you do the bend test for the hinge?", then i remembered that it folds 360 degrees lol

@SToXC_. 2 года назад

lmfao

@E-hab 2 года назад

Man.. you answered my question 😂

@drink_water. 2 года назад

🤣

@hansaparkfan-epfan7375 2 года назад

Same man lol

@Error_code_1001 2 года назад

Same lol

@czkawka1984 2 года назад

"The sides of this $700 smart phone in 6 months are made from plastic" this killed me hahaha

@keenobservations3050 2 года назад

I had to process that for a moment to get it. And I agree, the truth

@erickromero8587 2 года назад

Facts f***ing Microsoft be charging 1500 for a plastic phone

@keenobservations3050 2 года назад

@@erickromero8587 they are charging for the privilege to steal your money

@Jaslath 2 года назад

Pfft. There are some places where you can get a Duo for under $450.

@harushinwhatever 2 года назад

How bout 900$ phone like duel legion

@randaranatunga7259 2 года назад

“Like the tears of duo owners after seeing the price drop” Gottem lol

@blacklemarlonsofficial 2 года назад

😂😂😂

@Mark_badas 2 года назад

@@CanadianBakin42O looks like we found one

@FreshNutz 2 года назад

@@CanadianBakin42O that's what a duo owner would say

@wildboyz359 2 года назад

@@CanadianBakin42O checking your comments on the channel, you need to grow up first

@Not_Claptrap 2 года назад

@@CanadianBakin42O "You kids need to grow the fuck up" Says the one who cant even keep it in his pants anytime zacks wife is even shown

@wotan2383 2 года назад

I'm thinking the new hinged devices are going to need a twist test in addition to bending. Hold each half on opposite sides of the hinge and twist across the hinge itself.

@alec4025 2 года назад

Seems obvious that this is required !

@NehemYah810 2 года назад

Agreed lol.

@KleversonRoyther 2 года назад

While I'd certainly like to see a bit more carnage, I have to ask: what real-lkfe situation would this try to simulate?

@wotan2383 2 года назад

@@KleversonRoyther twisting a hinge across its axis could be a result of sitting on it while open on something soft like a couch

@KleversonRoyther 2 года назад

@@wotan2383 good point!

@billdoolinofficial 2 года назад

Bruh, "Like the tear drops of surface duo owners after price drop" "If you have a magnifying glass you can see a little clock there" 😂

@billdoolinofficial 2 года назад

😨 I got likes? Wow. Thank you all. 🙏

@arthurmiklaszewski6217 2 года назад

I totally agree with the software part. Windows in such a device would be awesome. Add another USB port and you have yourself almost a laptop replacement.

@NoNonsense316 2 года назад

Even just a second USB-C port with OTG would allow you to charge it and use a USB hub at the same time. It would be awesome.

@Potatoechip203 2 года назад

But like zack said if Microsoft did do that then there would be no need for laptops, and ppl would just buy the phone.

@DoctorNemmo 2 года назад

@@Potatoechip203 nah

@Leona_tf 2 года назад

Well, I wish it was that simple, though. Windows is a bit finnicky in a tablet form. Not to mention Windows on ARM has a horrible compatibility issues with many apps, since most Windows apps are designed for x86.

@ianfahrizal85 2 года назад

@@Leona_tf not that horrible as it still can run those app. Windows 11 also bring x64 support. Windows on arm need powerful chip as MacBook does

@muditahlawat 2 года назад

7:47 "The corning glass is the only thing holding this thing together cuz It sure isn't android." I actually laughed out loud on thaat😂

@AverageAlien 2 года назад

What?

@splashkid007 2 года назад

He said "cus is sure is an Android" turn on "CC" for subtitle 👍

@themisterx8660 2 года назад

@@splashkid007 Subtitles also say "mircrosoft surface 202"... they aren´t that trustworthy, because they are auto-generated

@thaer_me 2 года назад

Same

@splashkid007 2 года назад

@@themisterx8660 Well that's also plausible,but i believe it got the first one correctly 👌

@KleversonRoyther 2 года назад

Hey Jerry, it'd be interesting if you did a bend test with the screens folded outside. I imagine people may leave the phone unfolded while in the pocket to respond more quickly to calls and it doesn't seem like it's gonna handle it too well

@nemiesis 2 года назад

His name is Zack :)

@KleversonRoyther 2 года назад

@@nemiesis it's a meme, bro. He even does it himself sometimes

@Dimondminer11 2 года назад

I dont think you realize how large this thing is unfolded. You can only fit it into large guy pockets fully unfolded

@KleversonRoyther 2 года назад

@@Dimondminer11 I don't mean unfolded (non-native English speaker, sorry), but folded all the way so that the screens are exposed

@nalistergaming7658 2 года назад

I was about to comment the same thing. It feels like half the vid is missing without it.

@dantheman13371 2 года назад

I actually had a 2 hour long rant to my coworker once about the duo, how they could run "windows on arm" on it, and miniaturize the stylus to fit inside, make it a but thicker for battery, and they'd have created a totally new type of phone. But they won't do it.

@oneillc.8446 2 года назад

Chicken and Egg problem: Not enough duos out there to go that far because the duo isn’t selling well.

@Lorentz_Driver 2 года назад

Give it a headphone jack and I'd totally snag one up. I'd love a phone/computer/drawing tablet Frankenstein I could fit in my pocket

@gamingpriests 2 года назад

Every version of windows and it's programs chug too much battery life for a pocketable form factor, it's impossible.

@eiv-gaming 2 года назад

They tried with 8 and the market didn't want a third OS. Not to mention a full version would destroy any battery life. Sounds like a fantastic idea until you have to plug it back in every 2 hours.

@armaan_bruh 2 года назад

@@gamingpriests well windows on arm is pretty good with battery life just look are the surface laptops with arm processors

@gdlywom 2 года назад

I’m still rooting for these phones. I had their Windows phones back then and absolutely loved them.

@henrychua7451 2 года назад

If LG didn't pulled out of the phone game, they can match this with their cover with matching 2nd screen at a much, MUCH cheaper price.

@maanavtriestuff 2 года назад

True

@th3juic3man 2 года назад

Agreed💯

@gregoriolorenzo8771 2 года назад

Wouldn't match the desing and the hardware quality though

@corktail7900 2 года назад

they were so close but had to make the screen with rounded corners

@vladdx 2 года назад

I would prefer a rollable phone over a foldable and LG who invented rollables could've definitely pulled it off

@mollerbt 2 года назад

A full Windows experience on a device like this would be absolutely sick! I can see if standing up vertically, text document on one side, research articles on the other. As well as connected to an external monitor via HDMI. That would be sick

@mirek190 2 года назад

Widows on mobile device ??? Haha .... they tried windows 8 / 10 mobile and was really bad to use .... Not proper designated 99.99% apps for touch and worse dual screen. Windows is good only with keyboard and mouse.... a lots of memory and fast CPU.

@Emerald_Night 2 года назад

@@mirek190 I have a laptop with a 7" screen that runs full Windows 10; it runs well enough for basic tasks. It's also not even the most powerful device of that size available. Microsoft Duo would essentially just be replacing the keyboard with another screen. Win 8 and Win 10 mobile were far from the same as Windows on desktop. Using that as a comparison is a meme and a half.

@mirek190 2 года назад

@@Emerald_Night Windows 10 desktop on 7 inch screen ...basic tasks ..suuuure. No counting that 99 % desktop apps are not designed for small screen . ...no comment ... It's masochism.

@divyangverma9880 2 года назад

@@mirek190 but you do realise windows 11 can use Android apps on it's operating system.

@mirek190 2 года назад

@@divyangverma9880 x86 android apps compatibility is poor ...and not count you can't use Google play .

@mikebutler9332 2 года назад

I think android is capable of a Windows like experience if MS was willing to put some work into it. Samsung DeX was able to do it and MS partnered with them to make the office apps a better fit for it. Not as flexible as full Windows, even an ARM version, but a modified android is light enough for what mobile can manage currently.

@krisshietala2119 2 года назад

Samsung sex was a variation of Microsoft continuum from lumia.

@nekoyd 2 года назад

@@krisshietala2119 u mean samsung dex?

@snookiewozo 2 года назад

If you actually used Samsung Dex, you'd know how insanely limited it is compared to even Windows XP.

@DaleRossNET 2 года назад

No, Android just isn't there. It needs full Windows 11 to get there.

@DaleRossNET 2 года назад

@@1050-Argon Continuum was great, it didn't fail, the device failed in the market. Porting that technology to Android, no telling. It might happen. Or Android might be a short layover to a full Windows 11 experience.

@SalemTechsperts 2 года назад

To answer your question, yes, I would absolutely rock a pocket laptop. I think that's where mobile tech is inevitably evolving towards anyways, but, like you, I think this process is being stalled because it would cannibalize their already existing mobile laptop market. Kind of like why Apple still doesn't have a touchscreen MacBook.

@Xshunin 2 года назад

I am also a Duo 2 owner and I love it so far. If people want small sized Windows PCs, why isn't GPD as successful as they would be if this was true? Don't get me wrong, I also love GPD devices but I prefer something between 10-12" for mobile Windows.

@Tiamorg 2 года назад

The ones that like gpd products - buy them. And in "niche handheld/umpc" devices, gpd has a pretty good succes. You sure can't compare the number of people who will buy lenovo legion 5 for 1k usd and play games on high settings with people that will spend the same 1k usd for a umpc with "draws" that comes with small size. And i have the ms duo 1. Got it on high price cut, and i love the design as much as i hate the software.

@me2olive 2 года назад

Yeah, exactly this. The Dell Venue 8 was probably the best known 8" Windows tablet when it launched, but Dell don't sell anything that small now. Even Microsoft's own Surface Go's screen has grown from its initial 10". Full fat Windows apps just aren't designed for screens that small, hence we got touch-friendly UWP apps... which did the same things Android apps did only worse. Outside of specialist devices like the GPD or Steam Deck, I don't see small screened Windows devices making a comeback.

@vladdx 2 года назад

Does GPD offer 5G, or even 4G? If not, it's not really comparable.

@Dare2Blink 2 года назад

Jerry two things: you can easily leave the phone oppened in your pocket if you dont want to open it. Also outti g full fledged windows on a device this small is just no realistic for a couple of reasons. Firdt snd foremkst windows obviousky was not designed for screens this small and wiuld never be usable, notto mention all windkws programs that also were not designed for small screens. Therefore your proposition is a non starter. Microsoft would love to be able to their own software on a pocketable device that is what windows phone was for. Unfortunately lack of developer suport killed it. I am a surface duo 2 owner and i absolutely love it. It definitely does not have bugs like the first one had. I came from a candy phone android device straight to this and its awasome. Its exactly like the dual screen analogy you mentioned.

@ryu_798 2 года назад

GDP? I've never heard of it, nor seen this being sold in my country.

@J_shw 2 года назад

6:17 - I could imagine the lag, running resource hungry Windows 10 or 11 on this phone 😂

@soufiwail5337 2 года назад

Zack just fired the whole Surface duo 2 software engineering team haha

@beans0022 2 года назад

Your Art Class With Jerry Tshirt is amazing, although you need to get your drawing of Mewtwo on there!

@vladdx 2 года назад

I own a Mate 40 along with a MateView, desktop mode on a phone is a really great feature to have. I use it pretty much every day.

@Dimondminer11 2 года назад

samsung also has a similar thing; Dex

@vladdx 2 года назад

@@Dimondminer11 Yeah I know, I actually tested Samsung DEX on my MateView using a pal's Samsung phone. Huawei has an advantage though when connecting wireless, it uses it's own protocol which supports native 3840x2560 resolution while Samsung DEX is limited to 1080p.

@scaryifliteral 2 года назад

Hard disagree on "is as finicky as Duo 1," otherwise great stuff. It held up pretty well!

@Coda-Ch. 2 года назад

I personally would buy this instantly if it had full windows experience. Would be such a useful phone for work. Android is definitely holding this back. Then again, MS hasn't even made the phone available here so...

@Funnyandcutepets_ 2 года назад

If you need a phone for work ios would do much better than shitdroid. I owe both tho (ios & android)

@dreamsider 2 года назад

They were going to make a windows 10x for a device like this called surface neo, but seems like they scrapped it.

@Coda-Ch. 2 года назад

@@dreamsider yeah sadly so. I was really looking forward to it.

@jasimaneesahamed1033 2 года назад

@@dreamsider Exactly, because Windows 10X's fate itself was uncertain The Surface Neo is basically a bigger and better Surface Duo. I do hope they plan on releasing the Surface Neo with like Windows 11 and an x64 CPU (or a powerful ARM CPU)

@Coda-Ch. 2 года назад

@@Funnyandcutepets_ you must be kidding, right? I have Apple devices and I love them, but they wouldn't work nearly as well in a work environment like mine. Android can be shit, but so can iOS. They both have very big problems, but I would never use an iPhone at my work.

@HeartFire_ 2 года назад

Honestly I prefer the duo concept with two screens and a hinge over the folding plastic displays, like yeah its a cool gimmick and sure the break in the screen is a bit of a bummer. But I know a plastic display wouldn't last a week for me without getting scratched and that's just not something I could get behind

@alannotemo2835 2 года назад

Jerry rigs everything more like jerry breaks everything😂

@A145 2 года назад

@@breadcraft3605 ummm any problem?

@DemonDog17 2 года назад

@@breadcraft3605 roblox pfp

@quietflint1 2 года назад

@@breadcraft3605 haha that's true mate

@Doman9191 2 года назад

@@DemonDog17 bro theres literally shit on your pfp

@samlung2724 2 года назад

He rigs things to break

@rakshitgupta8341 2 года назад

1:56 Jerry showing off 😂😂

@jaws10278 2 года назад

I agree about Android on this phone. They should bring Windows Phone OS back!

@redstone_orange 2 года назад

@Weemizo yes and no. Microsoft is known for the fact that that they bring out good and then bad and then good operating systems. Microsoft can learn from there old mistakes and make a Windows phone OS that is as good as Windows 7/10

@gregoriolorenzo8771 2 года назад

@Weemizo It really wasn't. I've had 3 windows smartphones with pretty humble configurations and they worked flawlessly (at least performance wise).

@faisal-nl2vf 2 года назад

@Weemizo Nope. The only problem was the lack of apps. And most OSs today are inspired by windows phone and windows 8's flat UI, so MS was way ahead of their time

@vladdx 2 года назад

Only if they can pull of x86 emulation properly

@fortheloveofmusicandphilosophy 2 года назад

It still baffles me, that in times where being environmentally friendly, companies refuse to work on a 1-for-all solution. Samsung Dex comes close, but is still weighed down by Android, the same issue that the Surface Duo runs into. Apple's getting closer to perfecting the iPad as a 1-for-all solution, but even with that M1-chip in their Pro models, they still left out some features that would have made the iPad a fully fledged, smaller, lighter laptop. Pretty sure it is no coincidence. These companies still prefer we carry around 3 different systems with us, whilst trying to come across as caring for the environment.

@rishilandra 2 года назад

The thing is, though, that often there’s need to use multiple devices simultaneously. But you do have a point, some people would benefit from an all in one depending on lifestyle and career

@realsecrets1 2 года назад

Lets not forget the repairability, hard and software restrictions

@MrM3drvr 2 года назад

Been waiting for that exact thing myself Jerry. A tablet or dual screen device of this size running full fledged windows. Productivity king and i could replace nearly all devices with that single one since its so much more capable. Having a 4G or 5G connectivity with windows in a nice package would be awesome especially now with windows 11 enhancements to touch.

@TheArQu 2 года назад

I guess you gotta get not-that-smol surface now

@faizanqasim4499 2 года назад

Bro you have handheld touch full fledge windows 11 with mobile graphics cards available

@MrM3drvr 2 года назад

@@faizanqasim4499 not anything worth pocketing and using for daily use.

@starflyr57 2 года назад

and windows 11 running Android apps

@MrM3drvr 2 года назад

@@starflyr57 personally I couldn't care less about android apps. They're basically is a native app or webpage for everything already. Android apps are at the very bottom of the list of things to be excited for with windows 11

@LionelGeek 2 года назад

Thanks for the video. I currently rock a Z fold 3... it's been great, and has held up well. After using it for a year though, still think I'd find multitasking Microsoft's dual-screen setup more effective. I'll wait to see what the Suface Duo 3 brings to the table later this year (or in 2023).

@randaranatunga7259 2 года назад

To anyone who is rea ding this on a a surface duo 2 do I h ope that youre Having a great day, as you can see I Have kept spaces in o rder for y’all to read it properly, cheer s (Spaces in order to be inclusive of the gaps in between the t wo screen components) (This is just a joke and I’m sure the device is good for those who know how to use it :))

@leo77hunter57 2 года назад

XD it doesn’t work like that but nice one 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@sanjacob 2 года назад

wow. that's how it's done. relaxed speech, no exaggerated volumes, super clear image and very personable performed. high class!

@Tomcoma2832 2 года назад

I really like the no screen when folded. Most people buying a $1400 phone are going to have a smart watch and can use that to view notifications

@mahfudmahmuddin3161 2 года назад

Most high end phone users like would rather use high end automatic watches compared to smart watches

@albertdiehl1298 2 года назад

3:47 “The sides of this $700 phone in six months!” 🤣😂😂😂😂

@zoladkow 2 года назад

Absolutely! It would be amazing to have an actual Windows machine this size! I sometimes use the Dex mode on my S10 and I always wish it was actual Windows OS... or at least pure Linux desktop xD

@mirek190 2 года назад

@AloyGallium 2 года назад

Zack finally finds the actual issue with this device that other tech reviewers didn't. What a legend.

@sayididit2930 2 года назад

I don't think Android is holding Microsoft back. I think Microsoft can't get their act together and optimize Android for their needs. Other companies managed to do it and Android is pretty solid.

@hachimaki47 2 года назад

Yea.. im sure you'll going to have a very bad time if its run windows with that spec even with windows rt..

@sayididit2930 2 года назад

@@VISHVplus I'm not familiar with that specifically, but Samsung, Motorola, Huawei and (heck, even novice) Royle have managed to produce fully functioning devices. And even closer to the Duo is LG with their Dual Display case (which wasn't even physically attached to the device) and did not suffer from the problems Microsoft is having with both Duo 1 and Duo 2.

@YasinHasan 2 года назад

true BUT windows is way better

@sayididit2930 2 года назад

@@YasinHasan I like Windows a lot but recently I've been using my Android smartphone for everything and basically don't use my computer anymore. I guess if I needed to do real graphics or editing (basic I do in my phone and works great) I'll need to get out my PC

@sayididit2930 2 года назад

@Kenny Kolodor I was referring to Android and foldable devices. Samsung, Motorola, Huawei, OPPO, LG and others managed to make decent (or great) foldable phones on Android while Microsoft can't seem to pull it off.

@ryu_798 2 года назад

Microsoft if you are somehow watching this, for your smartphone variant have the start menu screen as the screen of these phones. The issue with your surface series is that they do not have specs of modern devices, it overheats while being idle, and you're charging apple prices for Apple level hardware. You can only pull what apple does with a reputation, so make really good products with hardware of a modern Laptop. People will live with its thickness, no matter how thick. Make it durable and Repairable. This is doable, or you can wait when everyone is doing this, years down the line and keep chasing their tails.

@awesomesauce8151 2 года назад

Android is open source and fully customizable. If Microsoft wanted a smooth running Duo with Android you'd have a smooth running Duo with Android. They just don't put the effort into it

@bocahdongo7769 2 года назад

Microsoft Android already improve a lot before this one is release. The problem now is for the 3rd party app

@benjaminballa5783 2 года назад

Remember the time they made windows mobile lol

@alex15095 2 года назад

Didn't Google prohibit vendors from forking Android or else they can't have Google services on their phones?

@awesomesauce8151 2 года назад

@@alex15095 I don't think u know what fork means

@KenjiPN 2 года назад

Best way to start my bday, watching a new jerryrigeverything video! NICE!

@MEDIAFIRR 2 года назад

I got the galaxy z fold 3

@composimple364 2 года назад

Zack your head is so round, very satisfying watching your video and watching you 🙏😄😂

@masterquake7 2 года назад

I really like my Duo 2 so far, software oddities aside. The software bugs are nothing huge. I like that this is different, and the screen aspect ratio feels better than the ultra wide of most phones. That long, skinny brick design is getting old. I don't mind at all that the phone needs to open to answer. It auto answers if you flip the second screen all the way around. Being that it feels like a book, reading books or comics on this thing feels great. If there was one real criticism from me it is that the default Microsoft keyboard, which you basically have to use, leaves a bit to be desired and needs more customization options.

@paullasky6865 2 года назад

Why can't you use the Google keyboard?

@MelodicMethod 2 года назад

Jerry's voice is so smooth, I even enjoy the commercials

@mausambhandari9729 2 года назад

this phone would be totally different if it had windows as its OS but now it is just another big phone with dual screen... when will MS learn to take advantage of its product without fearing the current trend.

@maccrazy7335 2 года назад

Definitely wouldn't want windoze on a phone again but a full version of linux would be interesting with a decent phone plus externals...

@Siddharthsirsate77 2 года назад

Level 6 with deeper grooves at level 7. My ears waiting this to be different. What is the next level?

@markasKCI 2 года назад

In 2 or more years

@cocotug0 2 года назад

@@markasKCI i say 5 years for it to be at mid-high range, but you sure covered all alternatives with your last statement lol

@kurts.5140 2 года назад

I know it'll be similar, but I can't wait for the teardown. I'd be interested if you test the water proofing to see if it can withstand something higher than its rating. And or if there's a way to water proof it I could do if I get the phone! Excited for a teardown tho

@fshah4802 2 года назад

why no teardown:?

@Timmie1995 2 года назад

7:18 My knees accidentally slammed together when you slammed the phone shut.

@benbenoy4419 2 года назад

I would absolutely love a windows version with ryzen 5000U series mobile chip in this thing. 5000U series processors are made for thin and lite laptops while having double the core counts and integrated graphics of equivalent intel chip. So if they make it a inch bigger and lil bit thicker they can definitely fit that chip, get rid of the camera bump and a lil bit more battery maybe. It'll be the best selling foldable.

@Bathna33 2 года назад

that tap at 8:19 makes me wonder how many people are you keeping in your basement Jerry? HOW MANY PEOPLE?

@jacksagoe810 2 года назад

Hey Jerry, I was expecting you would have bent it also from the inside out or the other way round if that's how you will call it. Just curious about what will happen.🤔

@gusmartin6053 2 года назад

I agree, it would be soooo cool to have a full windows PC in that format factor. Come on Microsoft!

@Raksh95 2 года назад

Agree with Jerrys comments here, Microsoft should never have shelved windows mobile. It is by far the best mobile operating system even by today's standard despite the fact they haven't worked on it for a while. Android and iOS use similar kernel design so they are kinda alike in ways. Windows wasn't and Microsoft had an amazing team during its time, best cameras, smooth phones even on 512mb ram and imo the best user interface for a phone, app tiles were so good and intuitive, None of this boring app icons bullshit. The app problem would have been solved now with their appstore solution that's just out for windows 11. Just port it into the mobile.

@optimusprime1201 2 года назад

See that spiderman on the t-shirt? - From the Ipad Pro video. The ant, as we all know, is from the pixel 6 pro video. And yeah, the house? - from the Pixel XL video. 😂 I definitely need to go out more...

@BEAT.SWEATS 2 года назад

im surprised manufacturers don't leave a little dent for the bump to fit in when folded. it would work so well and make a really cool connection

@alfredsoyemi6425 2 года назад

I have been thinking so much about that. All they had to do is plan for it during the development and not after thought. Design the motherboard such that that space for the camera inside the frame is deliberate. I bet they can find a spot for a smaller pen design like those of galaxy notes. I think once AMD's NUVIA arm SoC comes out, a Windows Os version of DUO should be very practical and they MUST use USB4

@thawurdsmith 2 года назад

I have thr device and am very happy with it tho I always have two devices I also know android 12l will supposed to give native support to folding and dual screen phones which I think will make it even better.

@me2olive 2 года назад

Windows Phone... didn't exactly go so well though. If Microsoft had stuck with Windows Mobile and made improvements maybe things would have been different, but now in 2021 it really doesn't make sense for Microsoft to have yet another crack at the phone market, in software terms. Remember, Android apps are coming to Windows 11 so you will get interoperability on that front. As for whether it would sell, the Dell Venue 8 was probably the best known 8" Windows tablet when it launched, but Dell don't sell anything that small now. Even Microsoft's own Surface Go's screen has grown from its initial 10". Full fat Windows apps just aren't designed for screens that small, hence we got touch-friendly UWP apps... which did the same things Android apps did only worse. Outside of specialist devices like the GPD or Steam Deck, I don't see small screened Windows devices making a comeback.

@KissMyAss 2 года назад

3:46 I pretty happy that this phone have plastic frames xD

@benjamindbarr 2 года назад

8" windows tablets werent ready for prime time... with windows 11 supporting android apps natively i feel you are exactly right. I love my Duo 2 but its not my only phone and i would much prefer it to run windows. I think a flip and duo with windows would be the ultimate perfect work and personal phone pairing

@mirek190 2 года назад

@benjamindbarr 2 года назад

@@mirek190 windows mobile and and windows on a mobile sized device are two very different conversations.

@mirek190 2 года назад

@@benjamindbarr I was using full windows some years ago on tablet ( windows had such era around 2015-2016 era when tablets were really small and fancy ... much better than nowadays ) everyone thought I will be great idea .. "Windows on small tablet ! That's Android killer! " - everyone were saying that ... So ? What happened? Was too heavy , to slow, using almost any app on touchscreen and windows was a tedious experience. It was great idea in mind but reality was totally different. That's why we don't have windows tablets anymore ( only Microsoft producing hybrids with keyboards ..not ONLY tablet .) On the other hand Android was projected for touch screen from beginning like every app for it ... That's why you newer need keyboard. Windows is good only with keyboard and mouse plus big screen because almost every app on windows was projected that way for windows... Stop already dreaming please . We had such dreams 10 years ago ... but it appeared a bad idea and everyone wanted forgot.abour it.

@LexTNeville 10 месяцев назад

I've had a Surface Duo 1 for a couple of years now - I've not been ind to it. It has not bent out of shape at all. The back glass is cracked, but DecalGirl sent me a really nice skin so I don't notice that. It is THE best device for navigation and music in the car. Couldn't care less about the lack of cameras - the Surface Duo pairs well with dedicated camera apps and is supreme for photo editing with sRGB screen support and all that real estate. The hinge gap is no bother. The initial software bugs are mostly resolved now. My finger scanner has broken, so I am going to buy another Surface Duo. Best phone ever.

@papierkorbknackwurst 2 года назад

Watching on amazing z fold 3

@pll__skip 2 года назад

cuber?

@Sofisasam 2 года назад

cubers unite

@Lol-rv5bv 2 года назад

Waste of $

@papierkorbknackwurst 2 года назад

@@pll__skip yes, from German, 12,01 Pb AVG5 17,68

@papierkorbknackwurst 2 года назад

@@Lol-rv5bv I paid € 1300

@brianwolters7560 2 года назад

I have the Duo2 and it took a very short fall to a carpeted floor while in "laptop mode" and bent and knocked the hinge out of place at the bottom...it still opens but yout have to manually push the henge to get the screens to fold evenly when flat.

@JerziTBoss 2 года назад

MS has all the tools to make Windows work on ARM and on devices like these. Windows 10 on phones and Windows Phone 8 had a good things going for it but MS botched it and then dropped the ball with it. MS Office suite on Windows Phones was way behind Android and iOs apps and that's the first party app! Notifications were a nightmare on Windows phone devices and they never did work properly and settings on Widows Phone 8 was just menu with random items. It did get better with Windows 10 but a lot of phones were cut from support even if they had performance to support it. I do agree that MS Duo 2 is being held back by android since windows already has wonderful multiscreen support and yes the lack of outside screen makes that more like foldable tablet rather than foldable phone.

@Mac3Ent 2 года назад

What if you could take various parts from all the phones you have taken apart and make a brand-new phone? What would that phone be like?

@srralias 2 года назад

If Qualcomm can actually come out with a M1 competitor and Microsoft can manage to put into a Duo 3, I can't see why we can't have a windows 11 mobile Duo in the future. I'd upgrade to something like that.

@seventyseven1403 2 года назад

Jerry needs his own Bullet-Proof Windows 11 phone!!

@diareuse 2 года назад

Blaming Android for incompetence of Microsoft devs on this particular product is just gold 😂

@alfredsoyemi6425 2 года назад

I see his statement not so much as blaming Android, but stating the short comings of Android for any foldable mobile device in general. Think about it, why did Android started the development of 12L? They knew foldable will not be successful on current Android design. I think Android 12L is the beginning of robust Os design for foldables such OEM can just do HW, skin the Os, but let the Os do all the heavy lifting that will make foldable do good stuff and solve problems that single screen Phones can not do. All current foldable phone manufacturing are doing independent codes additions to show what foldable can do which might not help Android Os in terms of fragmentation. Let the Os direct and standardize the best use and features for foldables and OEM can add there own values and extras.

@whiplashxe 2 года назад

I'm so glad you did a Teardown skin for this model, have had it on mine for a while now!

@nickthaskater 2 года назад

Full Windows 11 on the Duo is entirely possible and would be amazing. I would buy it instantly. As an Android phone I couldn't care less about it.

@NandelsWoking 2 года назад

yeah it all cool until your phone need activation lmao

@nickthaskater 2 года назад

@@NandelsWoking how is that an issue?

@mirek190 2 года назад

@nickthaskater 2 года назад

@@mirek190 Windows 8 and 10 Mobile were not full Windows operating systems. Windows 11 ARM is a full Windows OS. Windows 11 also works well with touch and can be run even on old slow hardware - my Note 10+ is more powerful than my Surface Go, yet my Go runs Windows 11 just fine.

@mirek190 2 года назад

@@nickthaskater What's that point if you do not have any touch apps for win 11 mobile . Apart from that windows apps are heavy .

@OPTIMOsolutions 2 года назад

Finally! I waited a long time for this video. Thanks! 👌

@technologyisawesome6913 2 года назад

I don't understand why some big companies sometimes lack the ability to make the right decision. Why can't Microsoft just decide to use the Windows operating system for their Duo 2? It makes no sense to use Android when you can use windows and make this duo 2 a portal computer.

@Astro.004 2 года назад

What you said about Windows on the surface duo 2 makes perfect sense. Especially now that Android apps are supported on Windows 11

@purian23 2 года назад

"Luckily we have 2 screens to burn, so I can keep on talking"! 😁 😅 Also yes having a Windows build on this phone would be amazing. I have this device personally and it's very much improved over version 1.

@Dimondminer11 2 года назад

Not to mention the plastic frame now. Last year's frame was aluminum.

@darthmortem585 2 года назад

@@Dimondminer11 literally nobody cares

@baldone45 2 года назад

The software has vastly improved via various updates since this aired

@muralisharma7077 2 года назад

4:04 😂😂

@edwinlemus15 2 года назад

Can’t wait for my shirt and knife to arrive super excited

@stevenrogers5366 2 года назад

Your thoughts of the full fledged windows is so epic imagine just carrying a Phone to college and boom you don't need your laptop

@PAVNEET203 2 года назад

I always needed full fledged windows on my phone but i guess it's still a dream only

@_DreamzGaming 2 года назад

Hi Zack Plz bring your knife in Black

@fallenravenclaw3870 2 года назад

You just a full stop for no reason

@jordawesome1716 2 года назад

I love your videos man!! they're so satisfying to watch

@that_green_neko 2 года назад

"They should release a phone with a Windows operating system. Microsoft would crush the mobile productivity space in ways no one else can." ...They tried that already and failed.

@leyzic9272 2 года назад

Yeah, Microsoft should not even bother if this is their final product

@MikuAuahDark 2 года назад

Yeah because it wasn't full powered Windows. He's talking about full Windows 11 that can run PC apps

@syedammarkhalid3695 2 года назад

Thing was, the ms phone didn't allow basic apps to run on the phone, like yt and all that.

@Dimondminer11 2 года назад

Microsoft has a great track record at releasing a very innovative device, not committing, and loosing an absolute boat load of money.

@user-zb6gt7og9q 2 года назад

@@Dimondminer11 With how often that happen, one must wonder whether they're doing it intentionally or not

@RAKillerful 2 года назад

When you will do Surface Duo 2 teardown video!?

@GAMERIN-rn6dj 2 года назад

*“Everything is good but the bezels ruins it”*

@evilbeardedman 2 года назад

I would definitely think about bying one of these if they managed to run Windows.

@Akegata42 2 года назад

I think this would be abysmal with Windows 11. It would however work perfectly well with Linux. Even Microsoft realizes Linux is a lot more usable when you don't have a huge amount of processing power and/or memory (or just want to run thing efficiently in general).

@10p6 2 года назад

The Duo not having Windows as you mention, is the same as Google Phones not allowing HDMI to protect Chromebook sales, even though every chipset (minus Pixel 6) used in Nexus and Pixel phones supported HDMI out which Google disabled.

@Diegovelha 2 года назад

Definitely android is holding it back. It would be much, much greater and more powerful if it ran windows. Specially now that windows 11 runs android applications by default.

@ipscone 2 года назад

God! Longest ad I have ever seen before the actual video. Must really need the money.

@dmz_videos 2 года назад

The camera bump actually broke the glass on the back if u put pressure on the camera inward the glass will crack. Not even that much force so don't squeeze the bottom part together when you're folding it open as one display.

@elvanvans885 2 года назад

love the shirt, legendary drawing

@paulteran6924 2 года назад

I’m liking how this phone has the two screens and it makes me things about using it for Microsoft word

@ThegirlAlaina 2 года назад

I like that you start your videos with you featured in them now😊🎀✨

@warrenbadze 2 года назад

Am I the only guy who wants to see this guys channel evolve to only focus on those bigger projects like the EV Hummer , I love that series waiting for the next episode notifications are on only for his channel

@warrenbadze 2 года назад

Not that I'm implying you should stop these smaller videos , just I hope you start making more money with those videos that it makes sense to do the shift.

@taotao98103 2 года назад

I'm a Duo one user. Having the phone folded all the way is actually pretty important. Since there is no outer screen on this phone, you have to always open the phone to read notifications. What I do is to fold the phone all the way over permanently. Plus when you take a call, you have to flip the phone all the way over as well.

@eddiegreif2715 2 года назад

As someone who was a windows phone enthusiast for many many years, their move towards embracing an Android operating system was necessary. I ended up leaving windows phones behind specifically because no app developers would go out of their way to make an app compatible with their operating system. If you're talking about putting a windows operating system similar to the tablet on there, people would get it like it's a laptop. But since it's a phone people would want the same phone-specific apps that allow someone to feel included in the app trends that made me feel alienated to miss out on. There weren't even major social media apps available that weren't made by third parties

@victor5954 2 года назад

I can tell from his smile he became dad 😁❤️

@matt33876 2 года назад

I did swap my android s20 to the duo 2. I'm writing this on the duo 2. Great phone. Tons of productivity. Even better once the modders finish the windows 11 software that's coming for the duo phones. Good bye android. It was nice knowing you. Cause no one will need a laptop or desktop soon.