Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 ALPHA vs 2020 - Flight Model, Weather & GRAPHICS (SO FAR)

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The ultimate comparison between Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 (Tech Alpha) & 2020! In this video we compare flight modelling, graphics and live weather. The results are shall we say, VERY interesting indeed...
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@kevinbrook7033 2 дня назад

Phenomenal video Steve, appreciate you taking the time to do this. I think it's clear looking at the tin, that, at least in this alpha version, the world terrain DEM hasn't changed, I was hoping for more accuracy, measured in cm rather than m. At places where this is achieved, such as the Grand Canyon, the differences are emphatic. The lighting and 3D ground details are massively upgraded however. As someone primarily interested in flying to places and walking around in VR I can't go over how much better the ground details are. I love the trees, beaches, river banks etc. I think it's going to be easily worth £70 and will get better and better over time.

@djtaylorutube 2 дня назад

Hi Steve, are there any improvements in seaplane characteristics? They never really floated in 2020.

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

@@djtaylorutube Not part of the Alpha, unless I tried a third party airplane, but then, it might not be ready just yet.

@Zeeflyboy 2 дня назад

@@djtaylorutube it was covered in one of the recent bits and Seb mentioned that water has totally changed - previously waves etc didn’t effect the aircraft, now you have to pay attention to max wave heights etc or else you’ll have a bad day. Can’t test in this alpha as there are no float planes, but expect significant improvements in water physics

@djtaylorutube 2 дня назад

@@Zeeflyboy Thanks, sounds promising 👍

@Lukeduke7773 2 дня назад

Speaking as a real world pilot, the airspeed fluctuations seem much more realistic which is incredibly important. Energy management is everything. The airspeed still fluctuates but not as sporadically and seems to “settle back to the mean” like irl.

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

Really good to know thanks!

@4secsharkmr352 2 дня назад

Everything regarding vegetation, lighting, weather, clouds is so much better in 2024. Love the Walk-around and the cliff textures. And of course the trees. Did I mention the trees. I am in love with the trees😂

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

😅😅

@GulfCoastTim 2 дня назад

Absolutely and well said mate. The trees and up close graphics are stunning now. I love MSFS2020 but...2024 is a huge step up in every last category. Even flight planning, massive improvements from what I saw. I just love everything I see here in 24.

@ansisklaips74 День назад

Really??))And how about sea waves,in the last minute??🤣🤣🤣But,I want more reality feels in the cocpit.Terrain quality from 100 feet altitude,It’s not so important, since when approaching the descent, all attention is on the runway.

@StormyCC 2 дня назад

What I like the most about 24 is actually the gaps between buildings. In 20 it looks much more like just a mass of buildings whereas in 24 they seem much more 'independent'.

@EmesiS День назад

I pre-ordered 2020 and I pre-ordered 2024. I will continue to support Asobo no matter what direction they go with flight simulation. I think a lot of us OG simmers forget the time when Aces Game Studio came to an end and FSX died. Then the pursuing struggle to work out the issues with P3D and hoping for something new. Asobo was a breath of fresh air and forever changed the landscape of flight simulation. They brought me 4 great years of pleasure with their software and this hobby, so I have faith they will continue to push the bar. Cheers!

@VRFlightSimGuy 23 часа назад

Great post thankyou! I wholeheartedly agree.

@briank3754 2 дня назад

I hope the new lighting improvements carry over to VR.

@dtrjones 2 дня назад

It's the same renderer. I don't understand what you mean. I have noticed using DLSS more so but also TAA, details in the background don't look quite as sharp in MSFS 2024. That's going to have an impact in VR for sure.

@b.s.7693 2 дня назад

It just looks very promising! ...and our graphic cards will hate it as the VR button shows up 😂

@armandvzyl 2 дня назад

Way too early to draw direct comparisons TBH. Rather wait until 2024 is fully released and then do a comparison, that would be fair.

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

Why not do both, 99% have enjoyed it so far and seen it for what it is, a bit of fun. I highlight, more than once, it's a tech alpha. However, I do focus on areas I feel won't change much, given we are only 1 month away from release. Thx for watching.

@meuhey 2 дня назад

were a month from release, nothing will change.

@arcrides6841 2 дня назад

Doing both is fair. Calling it the brutal truth seems unfair but wouldn't surprise me if they release this junk.

@SightCentralVideos 2 дня назад

Realistically, very little is going to change from the alpha to release.

@armandvzyl 2 дня назад

Not sure why you guys are saying nothing will change before release, so what you are saying all the missing content will also be missing during full release? Yeah sure, it does not make sense, but anyway typical flight simulator community negative mentality. This was CLEARLY stated as a tech alpha, meaning they are testing the technical back end side of things. This was NOT a content or functional test alpha, so almost all new content was deliberately excluded.

@nzbankboyinvr4713 2 дня назад

Appreciate the effort that must of taken to put together! Can’t wait for the final product and updates overtime! It took some time for 2020 to get where it is today, so guess we can’t expect everything to be perfect on day 1! Lovin the 🌴’s!

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

Much appreciated!

@ImHavingaCoronary 2 дня назад

Not sure what you're talking about with regards to the visual fidelity. Images are sharper, render distance is greater, colours are more complex, reflections are better. Should have atleast uploaded in 1440p, I think the differences would have been more obvious. Also, you said it wouldn't be fair to compare frames per second, then you immediately compared them?

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

I talk about the performance, but I don't focus on it by comparing raw FPS numbers. Everything else you said I also say in the video 🤔

@b3lt3r-t8q 2 дня назад

The interesting things here for me were the trees and especially the water transparency at the shore - that was night and day different. I'd like to have seen a side-by-side looking at night lighting. On other streams the road traffic at night looks so much better with way more realistic head and tail lights. Still somewhat weird driving but again, the lighting engine makes a huge difference. As an example of "hang on it's tech alpha" - other streams I watched showed weather. My biggest gripe in 2020 is rain appearing to be inside the windshield or on a HUD even. I *believe* that is addressed in the new render engine but someone said that the 172 did not have water effects added yet so actually rain was not visible at all on the windshield. This is a useful video but clearly what was pushed out this weekend is a cut-down version so nowhere near definitive. The recent MS SDK stream made clear that for a plane to benefit from the new features these is a significant bit of work required by devs and that was confirmed by all the streamers dropping existing planes into the alpha's community folder. They appeared and sorta kinda worked but not really.... Let's be honest - we're all going to buy it whatever whining we do now :-)

@Jon_Follett День назад

RECOMMENDATION: The majority of humanity, besides being right-handed, also has a dominant right eye. Therefore, if you want to make it easier to view comparative content, the new content should be on the right side of the screen and not the left. Unless you want to make the comparison more difficult so that people looking back give you more video interactions, which will then be subtracted in the future because they will see other people's comparisons before going back to yours, looking to the left and having the left eye vision off the screen. Do what you want, but the recommendation is very legitimate...

@yowie69 2 дня назад

Thanks Steve, did you upgrade the DLSS from v2.4 to 3.7 for this? I felt the performance was vastly better. Virtually no stutters, crisper visually. The Super Hornet model seems more weighty, it is not supersonic in dry thrust in real life like this is. I have flown backseat in a real classic Hornet and got to fly the trip, it's too pitchy on takeoff, flaperons are all wrong but roll rate isn't far off. I did alpha and beta on 2020, this is better at the equivalent point.

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

Cheers mate. I didn't have chance to change DLSS files, although I'm using TAA here.

@GulfCoastTim 2 дня назад

I just absolutely love what i see in 24, such a massive step up. I cannot wait for this! Oh and just think...trees that look good even up close, live ship and boat traffic, improved weather (can't wait to see tornadoes), wildlife that roam around, and all the rest of the good stuff. So if i need to do another gpu upgrade, I won't hesitate to do so, no expenses spared. It's worth every cent for me as this is what i do, and the sky is calling.😀🛩️

@Lonsome1223 День назад

I like when in drone mode when you look down you can see your feet moving and making footstep sounds you can even run Presumably you could do a walk round check the controls etc then enter the cockpit. Cool!

@mammid9622 2 дня назад

You often compare them when looking at cities and airports when you know that they made virtually no changes there

@Belthorian 2 дня назад

Doing the same thing around NYC, I was getting about 20 FPS more in 2024 than I was in 2020.

@Paul-T 2 дня назад

Are you at all concerned by the fact that VR has apparently been viewed as not being "essential enough" to be included in the Alpha and by the fact that it appears to have been easy enough for MS/Asobo to exclude it? To me, that makes it look like VR is still not an integral part of MSFS.

@arcrides6841 День назад

MSFS 2020 gives me motion sickness in VR so I only play in 2D. With DCS however VR is incredible and I can play for hours without motion sickness.

@Paul-T День назад

@@arcrides6841 I'm lucky, in that I've never really suffered from VR sickness, but my son has and his experience appears to suggest that the better the VR performance, the less likely he is to get it. That sounds like it might be what is affecting you too, with DCS usually being a far smoother experience in VR. Hopefully, FS2024 will be closer to the DCS experience.

@arcrides6841 День назад

@@Paul-T fps is definitely a huge factor. In this case it's not relevant though as both DCS and MSFS run at 90 fps. Running a 4090 with 13900 and g2 headset. Both butter smooth but there's something not quite right about MSFS. Something about the 3D scaling or the rotational geometry if that makes sense. Can't really describe it.

@Paul-T 23 часа назад

@@arcrides6841 Maybe that is a symptom of the point I was making in my first post, in that VR doesn't appear to have been built into MSFS, when it appears that it has with DCS? Maybe that concern is not correct however, and you might get a better experience in FS2024. We can but hope. :)

@arcrides6841 23 часа назад

@@Paul-T yeah I definitely believe it's due to not being properly built in. I don't mind because for MSFS I prefer the amazing graphics and relaxed atmosphere you get from a 4k screen rather than being in a headset for those long civilian flights. DCS however benefits hugely from being able to look around. Also the depth perception makes things like aircraft carrier landings much easier than with 2D. DCS is far more realistic with regard to physics than MSFS therefore I think it makes sense to keep the realism up by running it in 3D. They've really done it well, it's just too bad DCS graphics aren't very good.

@rudyvinck1447 2 дня назад

The trees are the big improvement also and the feeling of land in different surfaces

@johnjacobsen4003 2 дня назад

What about the cows in the fields, better? 😂

@MoMedia1 2 дня назад

Bit of a strange video. You can't do a comparison video when the thing is in Alpha. Frame gen in TAA is disabled in MSFS24. All the ground vegetation, rocks, etc. is not enabled either. Wait until the thing is out then do a comparison video.

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

3:50 - Thanks for watching, love your channel btw, I used to watch many years ago.

@alanunruh7310 2 дня назад

that may be but its still a great video to showcase the progress being made and the small changes as they go along. i think it was a great video

@MoMedia1 2 дня назад

@@VRFlightSimGuy I thought I recognised your username 😊

@zzzzzzz1zzzzzzzzzz1z День назад

yes and no, they won't rewrite the engine from alpha (even if it is an older build) till release (and obviously they didn't)

@Belthorian 2 дня назад

I will also say that the rudder pedals in 2024 are WAY more realistic in my opinion. In 2020 I was not able to keep an aircraft strait on the runway because even a little rudder had a large effect on the plane. In 2024 the rudders seemed much easier to control the aircraft with very small corrective inputs.

@DMan-ud6bt 2 дня назад

I definitely agree that the lighting and colors seem to be better in 2024, which is great. Something else that I hope isn't just my imagination is that 2024 appears to be displaying everything smoother than 2020, so less juttering as you fly. This is a major pain point for me when I fly in VR, since I don't want to reduce graphical settings and I can't seem to get rid of it in 2020.

@GD-lv8cc День назад

This is where the real difference lies. I'll be able to crank up the resolution and make better use of my Pimax Crystal Light.

@lexustech48 2 дня назад

Dont forget, on a complex add on like the PMDG Boeings, the amount of behind the scenes physics and systems calculations also eat up the single thread calculations in 2020. The 2024 Multithreading should absolutely improve the frame rate issue and stuttering on final approaches. 5800X3D and a 4090 here.

@itwizpro 2 дня назад

The game changer is the walking mode in 2024 which is funny to say in a flight simulator. 🚶

@Moonmonkian 2 дня назад

I never got out of my cockpit when it was added to Elite

@Kingnothing75 2 дня назад

Great video Steve. I have a feeling they will have a separate photogrammetry city payware for London, which is why the city looks sonbasic and autogenerated in FS2024. I also hope the trees are all the right height and not overly large. Also I always thought the ocean water was too still and reflective, I hope that's not the case in FS2024. Still , it's a huge improvement from 2020

@casstephens3124 2 дня назад

The thing Is about the flight modeling is the cessna is pretty much the only aircraft that got the flight model updated with all the new features. So there shouldn't be too much difference

@OllyO-gt8pg 23 часа назад

i downloaded rex atmos for 2020 and it flashes up a white screen for about a second then closes down, i've emailed them about 2 weeks ago....nothing.

@poolhallshark 2 дня назад

Great video, Steve! I am absolutely sure that the total immersion will be a lot greater with the new sim. All the minute details combined, in addition to the major changes, WILL make a huge difference I think. We also have to vector in that the new sim is in its infancy, tech wise, and that things will keep improving a lot, and quite quickly. I think we're in for an amazing experience 🙂 Let's hope that VR will be issue free from the get go. I'm very excited to try out the full release soon 👍 Have a great week ahead. Much love from Norway ♥♥♥♥♥

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

Totally agree with you buddy, imagine what Norway is going to look like in this sim!

@poolhallshark День назад

@@VRFlightSimGuy 😋😍🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴

@BrianMoon-u9t 2 дня назад

What stood out to me the most at first were the shadows on the water

@ScoobyToursXL 2 дня назад

Thanks for the great comparison video. I prefer 2024 but at the end why are the waves in 2020 much better at the same wind speed ?

@rogerwennstrom6677 День назад

Had the same thought! 2020 looks more lively and real somehow.

@WillisKeeper 2 дня назад

No surge at the beach ist a bit disappointing.

@Test.Unknown 2 дня назад

Yes, because this is not microsoft beach simulator 2024

@vracan 2 дня назад

cant wait for your vr comparison when its released esp performance-wise

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

Thx mate

@rolandgardiner3059 2 дня назад

Thanks for taking the time to make this comparison video. The ground details do look impressive in 24. It is going to be interesting to see how download speed will affect this.

@Hudd22__ 14 часов назад

Will I need to purchase Rex also to go along with 2024 ?? Or is the weather the same in 2024 to Rex.

@Tiber234 2 дня назад

Well done sir - your efforts are highly appreciated. I shall wait till alot of the teething issues are dealt and enjoy the viewing the on-going vids that will be produced over the next few months and then decide if /when I do take the jump.

@acratone8300 2 дня назад

The Thames in the first flight would look more blueish on the left screen (2024) if you reset the calendar to May. The drab color of the river is seasonal. Also the brownish tint on the buildings is a Fall (Autumn) coloring.

@9livesReset День назад

Agree, "the star of the show is the lighting". My hope is there is enough "room" in the new technology to allow vast improvements in the autogen of the scenery over time. It certainly seems like they have left opportunity for FS Realistic to improve on cabin shake and vibration once again. Thanks for the vids

@jensleck547 2 дня назад

Question is: how did it looks on my SeriesX🤔 Finally: SX is no HighEndPC and works until some years with same Power, no Hardwareupgrades...will they bring comparable on SX as PC on it👨🏼‍✈️🖖

@10KenHall 2 дня назад

Appreciate the effort Steve but the tech alpha is missing so much, I noticed during your wind on the trees segment there was little effect on the water, most likely the tech alpha is a very early build where wave action has not been implemented, the main purpose of this alpha was to test the servers. Cheers, gotta love Scotland

@martinhsl68hw 2 дня назад

Very interesting video - thanks Steve! I have concerns on how much of a hit ray tracing would have on fps - do you know if it was an available setting?

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

Cheers Martin, I reckon ray tracing was having a big effect on my fps in this video test :)

@burtleboeuf1429 2 дня назад

I dont really think the comparison is doing 2024 justice visually. If you make full use of the updated weather and lighting system, for example, setting up more heaily clouded scenes interspered with light rays and wet conditions after rain, at sunset/sunrise, you are going to see a huge difference visually. I mean, 2020 is very good and particularly I dont think you'll see an enormous difference with the cities but for the landscapes, they've already said they have introduced much higher res satellite imagery plus accurate elevation maps.

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

I don't think you appreciate how much time that would take. In this scenario, I'm just using live weather, like I normally would. I'm not trying to make 2024 look any better, since that would be bias. I'm merely uisng both sims like I normally would. It's a fun comparison, nothing more, nothing less.

@bennyp8212 2 дня назад

What are your thoughts on the feeling of inertia in the sim?

@wiejag 2 дня назад

On my GTX 1660 and i5-13600kf I lost as much as 20 fps. And what did I gain? Career mode?

@ResetXPDR 2 дня назад

Interesting comparison. What display resolution were you using?

@PaulMcDonagh-rv6vc 2 дня назад

Hi Reset.....will your app work on 2024 mate? Thx.

@ResetXPDR 2 дня назад

@@PaulMcDonagh-rv6vc Not in its current form. Shouldn't be needed for 2024 anyway.

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

only 1080p using my monitor (I also have a 4K monitor I sometimes use)

@PaulMcDonagh-rv6vc День назад

@@ResetXPDR Thx. Surely it wont work for VR and fps caps. Theirs is a form of Auto-fps, not Auto-tlod is it not?

@ResetXPDR День назад

@@PaulMcDonagh-rv6vc I don't know. Let's wait and see how good it is in the release version.

@kevinsaker-o6i 2 дня назад

Great video, however my mail concern is the ideal download speed at 100 mbs, a lot of folks cannot get more than 50mbs , so we need o know what performance we can expect . Even on a high spec machine this could be a real problem.

@ColinDyckes 2 дня назад

I was running full 4K Ultra on my 76Mbps Internet over London and even the Grand Canyon. It does cache the data.

@sky173 2 дня назад

Now disconnect the internet and see if we really can play what we paid for. At least MSFS2020 will start and is use-able. Will 2024 do the same?

@hanswurst3811 День назад

Did you say you got 120fps in msfs2020? With what settings?

@paulmann8675 2 дня назад

Yes the colour of the thames stood out for me looks a lot more realistic and of course the lighting And the trees look nice It’s just great to be able to get out of the plane I find that one of the biggest new features And I’m sure the career option may be interesting

@dtrjones 2 дня назад

Nice one Steve, unfortunately for me my 13900K and RTX 4090 are just crashing within a few seconds of entering the Tech Alpha. As you also have a 13900K and 4090, did you get any crashing issues when using the Tech Alpha. For me I can't get the simulator to stay up long enough to even configure my HOTAS.

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

Sorry to hear that, the only issue I've had is when sometimes quitting the Alpha, my PC freezes for about 10 seconds.

@WolFoX28 2 дня назад

Interesting video. After watching others, I don't share the same conclusions as you. You talk about updates here without mentioning the career mode and activities, which will add a lot of content to the game. Also, the comparison on London doesn't do MSFS 2024 justice since there aren't really any updates in that area. I hope the autogen will be implemented next year, though I doubt it. You should try to show us the evolutions across the season, fields, snow, extreme weather effects, to compare it with 2020. That would make the comparison more meaningful in my opinion.

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

Thanks for your comments, I personally have little interest in the career system. As for the London comparison, neither does 2020 as I made sure it was bare bones, warts n all, unlike the trailers.

@kevinbrook7033 2 дня назад

@@ammodawg4587 I think it was pretty clearly intended to be a brief comparison of the game's visuals, weather and flight physics, the clue is in reading the title.

@ammodawg4587 2 дня назад

@@kevinbrook7033my apologies, watching on my phone didn’t see the entire title before commenting.

@gracebyseven День назад

Thank you very much for this side by side comparison, great job! I think the advancements are absolutely stellar!

@VRFlightSimGuy День назад

Much appreciated thankyou!

@pj8227 2 дня назад

Is an 7900 xtx good for MSFS or DCS in VR, or are there problems with AMD cards over Nvidia?

@knivesout33 2 дня назад

Just saw on the official page that the ideal specs for testing this alpha version mentions Windows 10! How come?! Does Windows 10 run better than Windows 11? Am I missing something?

@andersonconlag День назад

1:40 In addition to the obvious improvement in colors, I see a higher density of buildings. I am a person who usually flies VFR, so for me it is a must buy. Adding to that the best quality of the trees, I love it.

@androidfarmer8863 2 дня назад

Can visibility be set in 2024?

@Glider324 2 дня назад

Nop. I know. Very weird. Also only 3 cloud layers in presets.

@ronkramer3476 День назад

motion in the trees is amazing. (from the wind) lighting yes and they corrected out the DRAB GREEN cast from 2020.

@Secretgeek2012 2 дня назад

Is it me or is the cockpit on 2024 less visible? As in more difficult to read?

@DreLewis-q9x 2 дня назад

Awesome job! I'm new subscriber! I like the new sim and feel they will add so much more in the future.

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

Thanks for subbing!

@Ryorr 2 дня назад

What about performance in VR mode?

@martinhsl68hw 2 дня назад

Not available in the Alpha

@PhotoJohn80 2 дня назад

I don’t care so much about framerate if the frame pacing is much better. 2020 sometimes has some bad frame pacing issues over large cities

@blackhero911 2 дня назад

I was hoping that the FPS would be better because of the online cache system. Can you fly vr on the alpha?

@midas_9648 2 дня назад

Water looks awful in both. Is it so hard to create transparent water in 2024? Istead of oily wet reflective stuff...

@04boogie-t14 2 дня назад

The water is clear when you get closer to it. Look at other videos

@joen7521 2 дня назад

Fantastic to see the side by side; thanks!

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

Glad you liked it!

@robertrent5218 2 дня назад

Thank you, thank you, this is the video that folks are looking for. Liked and subscribed

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

Thanks Robert, really appreciate it ❤️

@thatguy7085 2 дня назад

The water and tree effects in high wind is cool

@Kingnothing75 2 дня назад

I really hope we can start a flight right on water anywhere! That water makes me want to go boating and swimming!

@mauritsbol4806 2 дня назад

Believe it or not, this talk reminds me of the 'debate' in the summer of fs2020, and xplane 11. I don't see it as a debate. I think you are overvaluing the use of a tech alpha vs a finished product. I think you can expect +20fps on the finished products, no obvious bugs (but other less obvious bugs), and 3rd party content. I assume there is going to be a transition period, but before Brazil everyone is onto 2024.

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

I've already stated that in my video

@justbrowsing5279 2 дня назад

There is an obvious bug. The scenery completely refreshes periodically. This is the case in other youtubers videos as well.

@tf51d День назад

Since when is photogrammetry not stock in 2020?

@VRFlightSimGuy День назад

I explain why I turn it off at the start, basically, in order to give a fair comparison at this stage.

@tf51d День назад

@@VRFlightSimGuy I don't understand this logic! A fair comparison is what 2024 looks and acts like compared to what we have today in 2020 especially when it's free provided by Asobo themselves, not what 2020 looked like 4 years ago! It's like all those FSX vs X-Plane 11 videos comparing against 10 year old stock scenery instead of with the Ultimate Terrain or Ground Environment scenery of the day, At least the argument there was even though most simmers were using them they were still payware addons. That's not the case here! A comparison with photogrammetry in 2020 would have shown not only the true current state of the Sim, but might have explained the huge performance hit in 2024 (Although I think some of that might be attributed to all the telemetry logging they were doing during the test period!)

@cbcdesign001 День назад

@@tf51d PG is not working in the alpha so its perfectly logical to do a comparison with it switched off in 2020 so we can judge the differences without getting influenced by the more realistic detail that PG provides. It is after all a test alpha, not the release version. The time for 2020-2024 comparison with PG on is when both sims support it.

@andersonconlag 2 дня назад

I was really looking forward to someone making a video like this. Thank you so much

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

Glad it was helpful!

@timelordflight851 2 дня назад

keep your gun powder dry until 2024 is released and a few months old.. then have another look at the 2 games at the moment i would wait until I spend a lot of money on the new one. There is not a giant leap in the 2 games keep your money in your pocket for now.

@richardeaton2469 2 дня назад

How can you say there is little difference with stock settings, the details and additional buildings etc in 2024 is so visually obvious, not sure what you are looking at....

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

The autogen looks exactly the same to me in this tech alpha 👍

@alfaV6boy1 2 дня назад

Its almost like gamers forget, don't care or ignore that devs happily sell back the same game again and again, look at the F1 games, MotoGP games, Forza games...... FSX to MSFS 2020 was a true huge leap, and this is nowhere near that leap, no where near, without doubt, it is the same game with a few tweaks here and there and some career mode that some will love and others will not care for like me. Each to their own for sure but people are kidding themselves...

@wout123100 2 дня назад

and so are you, there are lotsa changes but ok, some people have poor powers of perception.

@cjmillsnun 2 дня назад

FSX to FS2020 had to be that much of a leap. By 2020 FSX was 14 years old. We're talking about a 4 year difference. Compare FS2000 to FS2004. That's a fairer comparison. Also the difference is hopefully going to be loading times and a lack of stuttering as we won't be CPU bound by the main thread. In the first scene the resolution was noticeably higher and the graphics smoother. That to me is a significant improvement.

@ColinDyckes 2 дня назад

Flight physics and lighting/weather are night and day better IMO 😊. I'm really impressed.

@TheDigitalFlight 2 дня назад

A bit confused you are testing a alpha build against a fully fledged build the alpha will clearly not be optimised or polished in any way where as 2020 is a fully finished will be a optimise build

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

3:50

@brandyballoon День назад

8:50 Firstly - wow! My mouth actually fell open when you showed us the trees. But... something that I saw straight away with the motion is that the whole tree is stiff and moving like it's hinged at the base. Real trees bend like a fishing rod. If they're going for ultra realism it's things like that which ruin it.

@timrashleigh2984 2 дня назад

You said it yourself. How can you compare an Alpha to a 4 year old sim? Its not a full release and it does not have everything operational.

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

99% have enjoyed it so far and seen it for what it is, a bit of fun. I highlight, more than once, it's a tech alpha. However, I do focus on areas I feel won't change much, given we are only 1 month away from release. Thx for watching.

@Skauber 2 дня назад

There was one of the content creators that went to that MSFS2024 event in the Grand Canyon that said the build they got to try there was more mature than the tech alpha, so I think this version we got as "alpha" is really a cut down version, not meant to showcase anything, just intended to test something for Asobo.

@brendandurham5878 День назад

That would make total sense, coz that terrain mesh looked worse than 2020's and we were all told it had now been modelled into feet not metres.

@jonorgames6596 2 дня назад

Plot twist: Left and right screen switched.

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

lol

@adkmtb5046 2 дня назад

Im confused. The city autogen looks like a step down from 2020s photo telemetry and world updates etc. The terrain detail looks better but anything with citys isn't great. Is the tech alpha missing a setting or is this what we should expect at release?

@yeruschmift8422 2 дня назад

My guess is that they'll carry it all over some time later.

@euanservant7862 2 дня назад

As far as I'm aware photogrammetry is just not in the alpha version, but I'm sure it'll be in the final sim

@ishiddddd4783 2 дня назад

photogrametry, grass and a lot of details aren't enabled on the alpha

@caaront 2 дня назад

I am not expecting the night/day difference in 2020/2024 as it was with FSX and P3D/2020 but I imagine I will love it and appreciate the differences.

@brucetrathen8011 2 дня назад

The saturation is much more realistic especially in the green tones. Look forward to flying in it!

@jakub-kube День назад

it's worth noting that MSFS 2020 on high settings does look better than MSFS 2024 on medium, while still having significantly higher performance

@ft6755 2 дня назад

An excellent video thanks mate I agree with what you said, it's hard to compare performance wise but I do wonder if the raytracing is having a large impact. In one of the Q&As they said there was more optimisation work to be done, so I expect 2024 to run better on launch and improve into the future. I am a bit concerned about the amount of scenery pop-in I've been seeing, hopefully that is just due to the alpha and not because I'm on less than ideal 60mbps.

@tb100 2 дня назад

Yeah looks the same to me. What I'm hoping for is a flyby view, much faster start-up time and getting rid of that white glare in FS2020.

@belgeode 2 дня назад

I am noticing an awful lot of pop in from LOD to actual models. Hmmm...

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

Yeah it's a weird bug (I hope)

@EmeryE2 2 дня назад

This is an alpha, it’s not like it’s going to be there on release

@justbrowsing5279 2 дня назад

@@EmeryE2 Yeah but actual release is pretty close. I wouldn't expect much improvement between now and then.

@EmeryE2 2 дня назад

@@justbrowsing5279 this is an alpha! This version is older than the one at the Grand Canyon event.

@acurisur 2 дня назад

@@justbrowsing5279 The alpha is a different build to the finished product, the devs have already stated this. The only reason the tech alpha exists is so they can stress test their servers. We were never going to get a build similar to the finished one, this is a curated and very limited version of the final product. I enjoyed my time with the alpha this weekend.

@cosmic4037 2 дня назад

VR I'm waiting for VR comparison.

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

Me too!

@lukeyguy965 День назад

Very hard to do this right now when most servers wasn't turned on. Planes, Ship, Ground etc... Only thing I feel that can be talked about are the planes & weather stuff.

@bakzetary3145 2 дня назад

Nice comparison Steve! Looks interesting but only way I will make a change is if the multicore/threading improves performance or not. Otherwise will wait till 50 series GPU's come out and I get my hand on one the 80's or 90's. Trees do look very nice though, BUT at what cost???????? He, he, hate to be a naysayer but old age experience has value.......

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

Cheers mate appreciate your comments. Hopefully I'll be able to make a VR performance test once the final version is out on Nov 19th :)

@joeynuggetz 2 дня назад

Why no night or dusk comparisons?

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

Time my friend...

@tubzvermeulen 2 дня назад

Thanks for the video

@stoned_kakapo8736 2 дня назад

I actually do appreciate a very early comparison with alpha vs 2020. There is a place for it, while yes, release version would be a fair comparison, i do love how youre showing what is available in just alpha and comparing it to 2020. I can make decisions on re-buying commercial flight sim peripherals based on whats in alpha ahead of time (sold all my peripherals to buy more combat oriented peripherals for dcs)

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

Thankyou 👍

@belgeode 2 дня назад

That Scottish beach!!! Holy crap, night and day difference!!!

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

I just want to set camp there for the night!

@belgeode 2 дня назад

@@VRFlightSimGuyi would too!

@kevinbrook7033 2 дня назад

@@VRFlightSimGuy That's surely going to come. I can totally see a fishing simulator and camp building add on in MSFS's future!

@bwjbrown 2 дня назад

The eye-candy is great, but it's the flight modeling that will ultimately settle the sim vs game controversy. I'm really hoping for a closer to realistic aerodynamic responsiveness that makes chair flying with MSFS 2024 worthwhile between real-life flying.

@spacedock873 2 дня назад

Two things bother me. Firstly, this is an Alpha, with the finished product only weeks from launch?! 😲 Secondly, all this extra eye candy such as more detailed trees, clouds and shadows means a helluva lot more information for the rig to process meaning that the full effects are going to be unavailable to anyone without a top end rig. Even then they are going to kill frame rates to the extent of being impractical for day-to-day simming 😔

@knivesout33 2 дня назад

The new ground level details won me over. But overall, the colors of 2020 look more convincing to me so far.

@BuntyDave 2 дня назад

Just going off your vid, there seemed to be moments in the 2024 version where there was a wave of detail changing, spreading out from your position. Like we could see an areas detail loading in. Looked odd. Edit, sorry, you mention its the autogen resetting.

@avi0nic_ 2 дня назад

The new UI and flight control configuration now on a per plane basis alone will keep me from going back to 2020, that drove me crazy

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 дня назад

I actually hate this in 2024

@RJN82 2 дня назад

I was glad to see that the ships (HMS Belfast, etc.) weren't all sitting below the water's surface as they are around London per my MSFS 2020 although your video appears to show them floating in both versions. Maybe something's changed since I last visited.