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MIDI networking and file transfer on the Atari ST 

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@thetechnoshed
@thetechnoshed Год назад
Haha, I remember running a pair of 15m MIDI cables up and down the stairs to pointlessly save First Word Plus docs written on the downstairs STE on the upstairs Falcon's HD. 🙂
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit Год назад
Ooh. A wide area network 😂
Год назад
You have to select a drive icon first and then the menu item "Install Disk Drive..." will be enabled.
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit Год назад
Had to reconnect all the setup from this video to verify this and yep, you're totally right. Thanks for that. But why Atari, why!
11 месяцев назад
I think this is a bug.
@algizmo7079
@algizmo7079 2 месяца назад
Surely a 'bug' is an undocumented 'feature' ; )
@Storm_.
@Storm_. 11 месяцев назад
I think you need to select/highlight a drive icon in TOS to get the option to install new devices.
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for that it works. kind of sucky UI/UX but hey. It wouldn't be an ST without quirks!
@AdamKlobukowski
@AdamKlobukowski Год назад
You should try PARCP which transfers data over LPT cable (very easy to make) and ST can do 30kb/s using this. The only disadvantage - you do not map drives, but use dedicated program to transfer data.
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit Год назад
Thanks Adam. I'll definitely take a look at this.
@retrosim4197
@retrosim4197 Год назад
Definitely interested to see how this can be done using HATARI. I'm also using a Mac and have been wondering for a while now if it was possible to to use MIDI and/or serial over standard TCP/IP networking. Would love to be able to get some of the old flight sim games like Falcon and F16 Combat Pilot working over the network. Many happy memories of this from way back when I used to bring my ST over to a friends house. Stunt Car Racer was excellent as well. I'm also kind of curious to know if you can pass MIDI messages between an emulated ST in HATARI and a native MacOS application using Audio MIDI Setup? I'll also be going to the Cyber Legends event next Sunday. Looks to be very interesting.
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit Год назад
That's a first vote for a second video! On the subject of comms between MacOS and Hatari. I've not had any success with portmidi and qsynth or Munt. I get frequent Hatari Crashes. I've built the 2.5 develop branch on my Mac and I'm trying on that. So far, not so good! Hopefully will bump into you on Sunday.
@TPau65
@TPau65 Год назад
Oh, wow, 3KB/s! 😁 I remember a few Midi Maze sessions back then with up to 12 ST. That was so much fun... until the next boo-boo error! 🤪
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit Год назад
My fondest ST memory was five of my colleagues at Newcastle University coming over to mine one weekend day and filling the flat with extension cords, monitors and STs. Very happy days
@PooperScooperTrooper
@PooperScooperTrooper Год назад
I really wish I could add some memory to my 520STFM but my eyes are just no good and it requies too tiddly things
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit Год назад
In your position I'd post to the Atari Forums or on Exxos and as if there are any people offereing an upgrade service. I'm sure there must be. 4MB does make a huge difference
@stephenhookings1985
@stephenhookings1985 6 месяцев назад
I bought one and will be trying it out soon - got to clear some space. The Exxos instructions should really be updated for latest with older instructions available as revisions. You have to read the instructions in reverse.
@MissionEdPossible
@MissionEdPossible 11 месяцев назад
I remember back in the day, we would use a null modem cable to be able to play games like Stunt Car Racer. Didn't think about using MIDI!
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit 11 месяцев назад
THere was a comment recently (from adam I think) saying that the parallel port was the way to go (for speed) But... I always had MIDI cables lying around so it was the easiest solution for me
@MissionEdPossible
@MissionEdPossible 11 месяцев назад
I noticed you're using modern modern monitors -- what are you using for that?
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit 11 месяцев назад
The one on the left is a ViewSonic VX2239wm that I bought in 2010. It has a 16:9 aspect ratio so not ideal. The one on the right is a Dell P191sb Manufactured in 2012. Both have RGB input and both handle Atari ST Mono acceptably (Image a bit stretched on the ViewSonic) Neither can handle colour. I now have two of the Dells, as the friend who gave me the first, found a second :-) I think the Dellis still available (£239!) but you seem to be able to get tem second hand to £40 TGHese both run through Atari to VGA adaptors, in mono mode
@stephenhookings1985
@stephenhookings1985 6 месяцев назад
The GBS8200 can be modified to turn the 15kHz to 31kHz for more modern VGA. But these is a more expensive GBS that offers HDMI and is pre built. Likely well worth the £100 cf £25 GBS8200, £10 ESP8266, 74LS86 torture HV to complete sync, enclosures etc. I did the 4 throw switch converts RGB to Mono so one VGA can display low/medium or high. Picture is better than the old analog on my STe. STFM will need a bit more work but it is a refurbishment project.
@TanjoGalbi
@TanjoGalbi Год назад
I remember getting Midi Maze on an ST Format cover disk and looking forward to playing it only to be disappointed that although it ran fine on a single computer, the lack of AI opponents or other players meant a rather boring experience.
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit Год назад
I don't know if it was the cover disk version, but the version I use and it's v1.0 has AI opponents, their named drones in tha game. There are three types - Very Dumb - Plain Dumb - Not so Dumb and you can add up to 15 of them It must have been a cover disk free version limitation
@TanjoGalbi
@TanjoGalbi Год назад
@@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit Now that you mention it I think there was a later release after the version put on the cover disk. I think I remember reading about bots being added to it but I am not 100% sure. I do find it harder to remember written words over time being mildly dyslexic and we are talking 30+ years ago lol
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit
@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit Год назад
I think a lot of people in the retro scene aren't a young as once we were :-) @MarkPeterVargha answered my question about how you added a drive when it doesn't appear on the desktop in Vanilla TOS. As soon as he said you have to select a drive first I slapped my head and thought of course you do. Mind you I had to test it first!
@TanjoGalbi
@TanjoGalbi Год назад
@@commodoreisnottheonlyfruit lol I never had the money to get a hard drive for my ST so I can't comment on using them. I did later upgrade to STE and then a while after getting that I sold it to a budding musician and bought my first PC on hire purchase terms which took me into my programming career. One programming project I did on my STE that I wish I still had the disk for was a MOD music playback program that displayed live waveform displays of the left and right channels while it played. I had modified example code that just played the music with a white screen. It was in assembly. Had I been online at the time I would have released it as shareware lol
@algizmo7079
@algizmo7079 2 месяца назад
Half the fun was to be had just in setting up MIDI Maze, if I recall.
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