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Midjourney is Way Too CENSORED! I Tested The FREE Alternative 

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@aisamsonreal
@aisamsonreal Месяц назад
Flux Schnell is all about speed, and Flux Dev and Pro are for quality. I’m working on a new video that dives deep into these head-to-head comparisons, including how Schnell, Pro and Dev stacks up against each other and MidJourney. Stay tuned-it’s going to be an exciting week! Which do you prefer?
@huwhitememes
@huwhitememes Месяц назад
Yes
@microfx
@microfx Месяц назад
@@huwhitememesSame
@mofo6666
@mofo6666 Месяц назад
Flux. I have it running in ComfyUI on my struggling 8GB 2070 Super with the Dev model. It does take some time to create an image, the one I just did took 150 seconds. I lost interest in Midjourney when each new iteration seemed to restrict the content I wanted and the characters looked nicer but more generic with the same prompts I had used previously (also couldn't be arsed with the subscription costs).
@iUnlikelyEnd
@iUnlikelyEnd Месяц назад
Midjourney is one of those things where no matter how many people compare it to others midjourney is still “years” ahead of everyone. And the personalize feature is disturbing.
@LouisGedo
@LouisGedo Месяц назад
👋 Dall-E 3 was always better than Midjourney for 90% of my usage. I haven't used Flux enough yet to say the same thing but right off the bat, I love open source and local install so right there, that's a big plus!
@_EternalWanderer
@_EternalWanderer 25 дней назад
The censorship in Midjourney is now so exaggerated that every square centimetre of skin is immediately cancelled. A summer outfit? Not possible. A beach scene in swimwear? Not possible. At some point, all the models will be wearing burqas. Midjourney is no longer an option for me.
@DAB009
@DAB009 17 дней назад
Middle East Journey 😂
@SprattyD
@SprattyD 12 дней назад
I am finding this too, I feel almost explaining anything to do with a womans body size or clothing gets an instant flag at this point. I slap the same prompts into the bing one lol and it generates the image, not at the MJ quality but it wont have an issue with it while MJ does.
@btCharlie_
@btCharlie_ 8 дней назад
I remember trying to create a portrait for my barbarian character in a DnD game and I got bonked once for asking for "prohibited" content 😅 In the end, I was able to produce a partially shirtless dude, but it was only by inherent associations of the model itself - I couldn't use any such keyword in the prompt, only by the nature of what barbarians in fur clothing and no armor look like, the model inserted the very little amount of nudity on its own. That was more than a year ago though, haven't been using Midjourney for a good while.
@paradigm-gauge
@paradigm-gauge 2 дня назад
Well, I’ve generated thousands of fantasy images that are nudes, by teasing it out of the results instead of explicitly asking for it. You have to keep tweaking via inpaint mode about a hundred times and bouncing back and forth between 5.1 and 6 (because 5.2 will block the output even if you’re not even trying to get anything nude). But at some point (after about a year of doing this) I got a heavy-handed warning and the entire account froze up until I re-read their no-nudity FAQ and agreed to it. (I got busted!) So I read it and agreed and moved on with my other fantasy images. But in general I wish they did have a mode that allowed me to do what I want for my own purposes. I wasn’t even trying to get sex scenes, just natural scenes of fantastic human creatures, and it’s quite a fight sometimes. And since I give them $600+ a year, with privacy mode turned on, you’d think I’d have that luxury. But no.
@thewitchdoctor8855
@thewitchdoctor8855 Месяц назад
MJ is not for artists, the very fact it is so heavily censored means it can never really be an artists tool no matter how good the images it produces.
@Broockle
@Broockle 8 дней назад
it's good for amateurs 😅
@Jamaicafunk
@Jamaicafunk Месяц назад
Midjourney has a 'look'. You know an image was generated with it as soon as you see it. Which in my opinion is not a good thing even if it is aesthetically "better".
@williamlocke6811
@williamlocke6811 Месяц назад
Flux Schnell is substantially inferior to either Flux Dev or Flux Pro. The reason it exists is because it's fast (the word Schnell means "fast" in German) reasonably good images generated in only4 steps. I'd be surprised if Schnell could beat Mid Journey in many head to head comparisons. Flux Dev and Pro can easily match and often beat Mid Journey
@karlpj1
@karlpj1 Месяц назад
Its surprising he tested the worse quality version
@user-gh3di2rc3o
@user-gh3di2rc3o Месяц назад
Das ist funkspeil.
@user-gh3di2rc3o
@user-gh3di2rc3o Месяц назад
Schnell, meinen üntermenchen, schnell!
@southcoastinventors6583
@southcoastinventors6583 Месяц назад
@@karlpj1 Not surprised at all it meant to be run either through a cloud service like runpod or locally and if you where actually using you would run 10 images not 1-4 . Plus the prompting is all wrong for this model it uses descriptive prompts like Dalle or ideogram
@lineardrift
@lineardrift 28 дней назад
I agree - why did he test the worst version of FLUX LOL I use PRO and it is amazing!!
@truepilgrimm
@truepilgrimm Месяц назад
You should do a Midjourney vs the Flux Pro video. Comparing MJ to the Flux Schnell is like comparing David and Goliath. Try Goliath vs Goliath.
@southcoastinventors6583
@southcoastinventors6583 Месяц назад
.5cents per image is kind of steep better of using pro or a fine tune on CivitAI
@KOSMIKFEADRECORDS
@KOSMIKFEADRECORDS 28 дней назад
I know what you mean... hehhe.... just remember david kicked goliaths ass? And personally, even in this vid, flux managed to smash goliath for me at least.
@truepilgrimm
@truepilgrimm 27 дней назад
@@KOSMIKFEADRECORDS So it is written... 😂. I was a born again christian for 31 years. The bible is not the Word of God and it is historically hogwash but it contains spiritual secrets that are mostly unlocked by spiritualists rather than the religious.
@MrMattberry1
@MrMattberry1 27 дней назад
Yeah, I didn't think it was a fair test
@thegyrfalcon65
@thegyrfalcon65 7 дней назад
@@truepilgrimm Sorry to hear that. But you are dead wrong. Pun intended. The Bible IS the Word of God wether you like it or not or agree with it or not.
@allday2772
@allday2772 Месяц назад
King did have 5 fingers, 1 was going up the sword handle
@Didi_Meow_Records
@Didi_Meow_Records Месяц назад
A much thinner finger sticking out of the pointer finger tho
@nwdreamer
@nwdreamer 21 день назад
Yep. Came in here to mention this! Also, it's possible that the first "four finger" image has the so-called missing finger holding the left side of the camera. Also, the Flux King had a nice crown while the MJ one did not...
@ArielConstantinof
@ArielConstantinof 20 дней назад
i was searching for this comment
@martinbowyer7906
@martinbowyer7906 13 дней назад
​@Didi_Meow_Records It's not thinner, it's just partial behind what the hand is holding. All of the hands shots from Flux looked done right. there is a difference between not visible in scene and not physically there. I was able to creat similar looks with my hand. He is definitely biased to MJ.
@djbosco29able
@djbosco29able Месяц назад
I think comparing the lowest model of Flux with MidJourney is a bit biased... intentionally.
@Ordinator1
@Ordinator1 Месяц назад
His comparison between MJ and Dall-E 3 is also very biased towards MJ. I stopped watching after the "Pixar"-prompt... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AXv5sgIoPnc.html
@FlynProfessor
@FlynProfessor 25 дней назад
Right, he’s very biased IMHO but he’s not claiming to be totally objective. He doesn’t try to hide his bias. 😂
@buvx
@buvx 17 дней назад
Also, he is choosing one of four images for Midjourney and is comparing it against the first generated with Flux 🤨
@iaincampbell4422
@iaincampbell4422 Месяц назад
14:30 seriously the one on the right looks far more stylish and suave the one on the left just looks scruffy. Also hate the fringe on the left. The left are just scruffy hippies with blue air
@user-np9hr3cf2r
@user-np9hr3cf2r 15 дней назад
I was planning to say the same thing. When has it become that junkie/homeless looking people are stylish now? These days you’re more original and stylish if you’re just yourself, clean and neat.
@Teneykio
@Teneykio 15 дней назад
Absolutely. I have no idea what he's on about the left couple being more stylish or more attractive
@JamesJones-zt2yx
@JamesJones-zt2yx Месяц назад
I can't agree about the couples, though maybe it's because I'm a boomer. The couple on the left look vacant and unaware of their surroundings, and slavishly follow today's conventions--tattoos, of course, though thankfully no piercings or nose rings. The couple on the right seem not only to be conscious, but actually enjoying the situation. I can't say their look is timeless, but I think, or maybe just hope, that the fashion adopted by the left hand couple disappears quickly.
@ElHongoVerde
@ElHongoVerde Месяц назад
I came to say the same. I totally agree with you, James. I hope is only sarcasm from him... Or he may need new glasses 😂
@AnthonyFransella
@AnthonyFransella Месяц назад
The couple on the left looks insufferable 😂
@thomasmann4536
@thomasmann4536 Месяц назад
@@ElHongoVerde nah, it's just that "visual quality" and "style" are quite subjective, and he is probably used to MJ more, and values this style more which is why he chose MJ over SD in the first place.
@Splincir
@Splincir Месяц назад
This definitely. The couple on the left looks insufferable and horrible.
@TheBann90
@TheBann90 Месяц назад
Yeah, I agree. The couple on the left also looked lgbtq and woke...
@olaart3223
@olaart3223 Месяц назад
In comparing Flux and Midjourney, Flux seems more grounded in reality for image generation. My experience in architecture makes the skyscraper comparison particularly revealing. The Midjourney building resembles a Christmas tree, lacking the structural integrity of a real building, specially with the floor levels. In contrast, Flux renders the floor levels and overall design more clearly.
@karlpj1
@karlpj1 Месяц назад
Midjourney certainly has no structure when is related to buildings with some exceptions. When doing panos is a bit better, I guess because it copy references que show more integrally the buildings. In everything else is structurally messy, but artistically inspiring.
@FlynProfessor
@FlynProfessor 25 дней назад
I agree. It’s far more accurate to reality. It’s training data is more reliable in my opinion. I thought the couple shown side by side were people I’d like to meet, whereas the MJ couple would prejudge me, and their expressions cold and aloof.
@Icecold_Art
@Icecold_Art 12 дней назад
As a human artist I am never censored, 15 years of experience of drawing boobs.
@aviskrich
@aviskrich 21 день назад
Thaaaaaats a huge exaggeration. 1) Used worst version from FLUX. 2) Most of times used just one result from it, but chosen one of four from MJ. 3) Used prompting style from MJ. How on Earth MJ will fail with this circumstances???? I have suspicion Samson is an advocate of MJ =)
@nexusknight7
@nexusknight7 Месяц назад
Midjourney is censored and they make your ai art results public for everyone to copy and use for themselves unless you pay extra $$$ for privacy.
@retroelectrical
@retroelectrical Месяц назад
well, technically it isn't your art. Midjourney generated it for you.
@cekuhnen
@cekuhnen Месяц назад
Further MJ does hardly have all the other tools SD has - why people are so crazy about MJ I will never get.
@nexusknight7
@nexusknight7 Месяц назад
@@retroelectrical Their terms of service says otherwise.
@beanbox6724
@beanbox6724 Месяц назад
Я из России, ни разу не видел своих работ в разделе работы пользователей) +50К генераций _ так что велком если вас это смущает)))
@microfx
@microfx Месяц назад
@@cekuhnen because it offers peoplet without a decent GPU-setup to generate images?! Not everyone is so rich like you
@tekmojo
@tekmojo Месяц назад
Flux has been great, installed yesterday. Low VRAM model FTW!
@Iriesu
@Iriesu Месяц назад
Does it work with 8gig vram ? The dev model ?
@silverstreetman
@silverstreetman Месяц назад
Could you please point us to an easy way to install it. Thank you.
@gaborkiss1425
@gaborkiss1425 Месяц назад
Can you use its API remotely?
@tekmojo
@tekmojo Месяц назад
@@Iriesu Will likely take 2-4 minutes to generate. I run 2k prompts on a 4080 super (16 gb vram) and it's less than a minute.
@tekmojo
@tekmojo Месяц назад
@@silverstreetman I used this tutorial for my Comfy UI setup and Comfy UI Manager + Stability Matrix: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aPQ8gvTNCKM.htmlsi=uWe2KThFMW5fgWHJ. So results may vary. There was one link in the description that was busted, but if you match the file names/file sizes you should be able to deduce what you will need. Hope that helps!
@Rasenschneider
@Rasenschneider Месяц назад
The people of MJ look often like from a disgusting advertising catalog.
@karlpj1
@karlpj1 Месяц назад
Yes
@daxtonbrown
@daxtonbrown Месяц назад
I'm doing a movie with AI and censorship is a huge problem. I'm doing a cross between The Matrix and 1984.
@thebossman6687
@thebossman6687 Месяц назад
Can't wait to see it!
@Jamaicafunk
@Jamaicafunk Месяц назад
Right. I did the same thing with a Superhero video. Characters fighting has always been a problem
@victororo462
@victororo462 Месяц назад
So what you're making is a thought provoking take in Matrix? Because I think if they did a really serious and thought and emotion take in Matrix, it would have been 10x the movie it is now. Dodging bullets and action is cool. But one that really makes you think about being in an emulation, and really digs deep down, and makes the viewer wonder, would have been a much better film.
@Comic_Book_Creator
@Comic_Book_Creator Месяц назад
yes lot of words are blocked,
@fonziebulldog5786
@fonziebulldog5786 Месяц назад
If i pay for it i use it as i want. But my payed AI video generator (of another brand) also allow me to do that and have done several versions and its sure fun. 😃👍
@insurancecasino5790
@insurancecasino5790 Месяц назад
I think they use the censorship as an excuse so they don't have to "work" all the data. IMO. They could easily make a section for adults only. All of them could. There are "R" rated movies and scenes in the real world. Are they serious about creating art or not?
@TheFeedRocket
@TheFeedRocket Месяц назад
I hope, just take of the guardrails for those that pay and sign off on a section saying we understand, also we should be able to flag something we feel is over the edge, I mean we don't want any pictures of violence against real living people, or nudity of real people, they can keep logs and kick off offenders after warning, and we too can flag stuff we make that goes off the rails. I had a few results that were like ummm I didn't ask for that, so the AI can if the guardrails are off do some really bad things, we should be able to flag and delete, and they should have ways to monitor, but you know it's not easy so I kinda understand, I guess if everyone was good about it, but just look at discord and what Dalle3 did initially, a few people ruined it for us, people tend to go to far to shock value, probably kids, it's understandable too. But yeah they make movies like SAW that are crazy sick, I can't even watch, but I don't mind, I just don't watch. But like we make an image with a person tied down at gunpoint for a crime comic cover or crime book and that's bad? I try to do comic covers like the ones from the 50's pre code horror and get BLOCKED. Open source will fix that, but I want Dalle3 and MidJourney to add R sections.
@gmcubed
@gmcubed Месяц назад
Before, I could at least understand it when it was using discord, but now that they have a version that runs off its own site, its increasingly strange to censor things to this extent. I guess the only reason they censor anything to to avoid getting into hot water regarding political figures, CP, and whatnot. But the idea that they cover women to the extent that they do is still baffling. I'm not even prompting for nudes, but it still refuses to show leg and shoulders a lot of the time.
@_EternalWanderer
@_EternalWanderer 25 дней назад
@@gmcubed You could be forgiven for thinking that Midjournbey was programmed by the Taliban
@archael18
@archael18 Месяц назад
You're comparing Midjourney's best model to Flux's smallest and least-capable model. The fact that Flux schnell generates anything close to Midjourney is a win for Flux. If you compared the Flux Dev model, it would be about equivalent and Flux Pro wins out.
@buvx
@buvx 17 дней назад
Another point is that he is choosing the best of four results in MJ everytime and comparing it to the first Flux image which was generated 😂
@ElHongoVerde
@ElHongoVerde Месяц назад
14:30 Bro... You need glasses. Please tell me you confused left with right.
@Nahkampfschaf
@Nahkampfschaf 29 дней назад
Was about to say the same, he kinda lost me there completely. Plus, this is absolutely subjective who is "more attractive", at least where I live, I would probably risk a beating going out like this.
@martinmoraga2220
@martinmoraga2220 24 дня назад
x2
@robertkruk8754
@robertkruk8754 21 день назад
big glasses lol "the couple on the left is more attractive"
@hatac
@hatac Месяц назад
Jolly kings crown is spelled wrong. lol. And flux still got it. The flux image has 5 fingers, one goes up the sword hilt. Same with the 4 fingered camera shot.
@MultiSteveB
@MultiSteveB 15 дней назад
13:26 It does appear that the Flux king has an index finger - but it is incredibly flexible to be in that position. IMO.
@kaizen5023
@kaizen5023 Месяц назад
15:42 -- i like the contrast and stark lines on the Flux city scene... MJ often adds TOO MUCH detail these days that clutters the image, unlike older MJ versions that are less "busy"... when i am compositing images together i don't want a bunch of extra "fake" detail that is just clutter... if that makes sense?
@TheFeedRocket
@TheFeedRocket Месяц назад
You can get around that a little with settings or prompts, but I know what you're saying, like it's trying to hard. But actually that is what I like MidJourney for, it's more artsy, more abstract and surreal, I feel like I'm creating art that doesn't exist. Now Flux better not go that way, because it's like earthbound dead realistic and amazing. So I use both, I hope MidJourney doesn't try to be Flux, I mean fix the body issues, but they better not lose the wild unrealistic artsy style.
@alexismedor6182
@alexismedor6182 Месяц назад
14:45 you mentioned that you preferred the image that MJ generated, but in the end, Flux followed the prompt faithfully, while MJ didn't. I don't think you noticed it, but you asked for a yoda motif on the t-shirt, yet MJ generated an R2D2 imagine on the t-shirt.
@DontBother_YT
@DontBother_YT 23 дня назад
13:45 - Schnell *did* include all five fingers. The index the right hand is hidden behind the scepter.
@AlbertHardyJr
@AlbertHardyJr Месяц назад
In both cases where you say FLUX only shows 4 fingers, I can easily see that there are 5 fingers, but one of them is not clearly visible because of the position of the hand. At t=50, the little finger appears to be wrapped around the camera the hand is holding. And at t=13:11, the right-hand index finger is clearly visible behind the staff. (You're paying $30/month for Midjourney and nothing for FLUX Schnell.)
@electrodacus
@electrodacus Месяц назад
Yes I see the same thing with some fingers obscured due to hand position.
@craigcohen3682
@craigcohen3682 28 дней назад
Exactly. How does he think the hand is holding the xcmera?
@craigcohen3682
@craigcohen3682 28 дней назад
You are the only one in the comments to have noticed this. Bravo.
@elricdotah
@elricdotah Месяц назад
So flux is the uncensored AI? Have you tried it? I have tried free implementations and NSFW content seems to not fly.
@valerymoyseenko
@valerymoyseenko Месяц назад
With such SFW demands would need to shut down 90% of Hollywood's studios, and with them half the city as part of their outside infrastructure. These restrictions apply not only to Midjorney, but also to most online AI-graphics services. For example, they refused to depict Madonna with a baby - child, partially nude, religious theme. That's why I balked at these AIs and bought an RTX 2060 (for the start). 8 GB VRAM and 32 GB RAM on an Intel Core i5 7600 is enough to run Flux.1 dev - runs an order of magnitude slower than the regular models, but the quality is significantly higher and - no restrictions on content. (Translated from Russian in DeepL)
@bartwfielder
@bartwfielder Месяц назад
How do you install flux to process on your own computer? I like the pictures from flux better.
@shawnvines2514
@shawnvines2514 Месяц назад
@19:57 I'm using flux-dev and flux schnell on my computer in ComfyUI with a 4060 Ti 16GB. On dev with a simple scheduler with 20 steps for 1024x1024 it takes about 50 seconds per image. On schnell with a simple scheduler with 4 steps on a 1024x1024 it takes about 9 seconds per image. I'm new to AI image generation locally but I'm very excited about what can be done on a ($450 retail) / ($250 used) GPU.
@KrugerFS
@KrugerFS Месяц назад
Same, i'm using Flux Schnell on 1650 4Gb 4 steps, takes 3 mins per image 640x360 but upscaling it to 1280x720, takes longer, but quality is still amazing.
@ScottLahteine
@ScottLahteine Месяц назад
Seeing similar generation times on a 64GB M1 Ultra processor. My fingers are crossed, hoping we'll see some optimizations soon!
@dwainmorris7854
@dwainmorris7854 Месяц назад
No that's not how I see it with those couples in the images, The MJ version looks like two left wing hippies, and the couple on the right look like conservatives
@northerncaliking1772
@northerncaliking1772 25 дней назад
I love watching your shows your humor while staying consistently serious is timeless and hilarious
@Redman8086
@Redman8086 Месяц назад
Fascinating - you think the couple on the left looks "much more attractive"? They look gross to me lol, girl caked in makeup, both covered in tattoos, guy's hair looks dirty and messy, and not a fan of the guy's outfit at all. I'd give one point to the left girl's shirt over the one on the right but that's about it from my perspective. From a technical standpoint though, the pic on the left is more photo-realistic in my opinion.
@wrOngplan3t
@wrOngplan3t Месяц назад
I thought he switched left and right (I know I do at times, but not this time. I think :) ).
@kenrock2
@kenrock2 23 дня назад
Wait.. he said the tattoo girl is attractive? My mind thought he said the other way round... Lolzz
@BrooksMoses
@BrooksMoses 17 дней назад
I'd take away your point for the shirt, because the prompt asked for a "Yoda-themed" shirt, and the girl on the left has an R2-D2 shirt instead. :)
@Redman8086
@Redman8086 17 дней назад
@@BrooksMoses Fair point!
@balkanart8596
@balkanart8596 Месяц назад
As good as it is, there's no way I'm using something that works through Discord. The end. 🤐
@darkregentt
@darkregentt Месяц назад
You know that there you can use MJ website after a 100 generated images, right? I no longer use Discord for a loong time
@DFMoray
@DFMoray Месяц назад
@@darkregenttyou mean you can start using it on a website instead of Discord after you create 100 images?
@nexusknight7
@nexusknight7 Месяц назад
@@darkregentt why won't they let users use their web app from the start?
@darkregentt
@darkregentt Месяц назад
@@nexusknight7 Dont know for sure but what I think the reason why is they still want to people to join the community through the discord, if somebody have a problem with anything, they ask through the Discord and they still want to expand the community here because of reasons(idk), so the 100 images condition is just because of that. On the MJ office hours they said that it will be soon that you dont need discord at all and open it up for more people, so thats it.
@HighTechAiHub
@HighTechAiHub Месяц назад
Fantastic video! 🙌 The way you evaluated the performance of Flux and Midjourney was both engaging and informative. I especially appreciated the detailed breakdown of the prompt battle and the visual comparisons. It’s clear that both tools have their unique strengths, and your analysis really helps in making an informed choice. Keep up the great work!
@punchtalestudio
@punchtalestudio Месяц назад
The platform that will master character consistency and very flexible policy content will get it all. Period
@Ittiz
@Ittiz 17 дней назад
I'm running dev on my desktop, works great! And oh, it's hard to forget it's FREE! Besides the cost of the watts anyway, but way less money and less restricted than other solutions.
@I-Dophler
@I-Dophler Месяц назад
I prefer " variety " to the more contemporary and often politicized term "diversity." To me, "variety" captures the essence of differences and distinctions more neutrally and inclusively. It emphasizes a broad spectrum of elements and experiences without the potential ideological connotations that "diversity" might carry in current discourse. By focusing on "variety," we can appreciate the richness of different perspectives and contributions without the baggage that sometimes accompanies the term "diversity." This choice of words helps foster a more open and straightforward dialogue about differences and their value to our interactions and environments.
@kaizen5023
@kaizen5023 Месяц назад
"Diverse also somewhat suggests / connotates "incompatible" or at least I think it has some of that baggage in common usage. "Variety" is not a bad synonym...
@I-Dophler
@I-Dophler Месяц назад
@@kaizen5023 Variety is inclusive and, importantly, not "WOKE".
@excelerator
@excelerator Месяц назад
This is a brilliant observation!
@I-Dophler
@I-Dophler Месяц назад
@@excelerator well thank you very much for this wonderful compliment. It really makes a persons day when somebody else acknowledges another persons observation.
@GreenAppelPie
@GreenAppelPie Месяц назад
Regardless of quality. I don’t do image generators that censor
@vrynstudios
@vrynstudios Месяц назад
Your comment on the couple does not seem right. Btw, i am 52. May be i am old.
@guillaumefournier
@guillaumefournier Месяц назад
In my test, Flux seems to be really good at creagting images that are easy to run into video using Kling.
@cekuhnen
@cekuhnen Месяц назад
Canva bought Leonardo and Affinity and what a dream would it be if Affinity could use Leonardo inside Affinity Photo or Designer !
@karlpj1
@karlpj1 Месяц назад
Leonardo is a basic Stable Diffusion with a fancy interface. I dont think it does any single thing better than everyone else.
@cekuhnen
@cekuhnen Месяц назад
@@karlpj1 I am talking about Affinity Photo etc getting AI inside their apps.
@cekuhnen
@cekuhnen Месяц назад
@@karlpj1 I stated imagine if Canva who know owns Leonardo and Affinity will offer AI inside Affinity apps like Adobe does. I think you did not understand what I wrote.
@selfpublishingempire
@selfpublishingempire 29 дней назад
Thank you Samson, I just Gave Flux Schnell a go for the things I use it for (elements for book publishing), and it's the ONLY text-to-image AI tool tool that rivals midjourney for me. Really impressed with some of the outputs. I like Midjourney for some things but this will become a regular too.
@treeoflifeenterprises
@treeoflifeenterprises Месяц назад
midjourney appears to be generating a more "atmospheric" picture, but it is compared against the weakest flux, so I would expect some disparity. with the couple picture, the one on the left was more in stylistic similarity, but the worman on the right was more natural, even if the man was a bit "painted" in clothing, and not so much pared in style.
@Tignite91
@Tignite91 Месяц назад
For me it feels like MJ just has its own distinguished style while flux needs a little bit more guidance. And the comparison feels very biased because you know how to prompt for MJ to get the results you like and apply these prompts to Flux. So in the end you just find out how well your MJ prompts work in Flux and are not really comparing the two models.. But I understand the lifecycle of YT doesn't allow for waiting until we figured out how Flux prompting works ^^
@Chrystalsdad
@Chrystalsdad Месяц назад
16:46 this is always a flaw in people's criticisms and or reviews of AI. As you have stated this is a German company if you look at the man and woman that they have created it is very German in its look. These are bias that are put into every AI whether it is an image generator or a chatbot. There is always a bias left behind by the programmers and those that engineer chatbots.
@johnleighdesigns
@johnleighdesigns Месяц назад
Fantastic stuff - Im a regular user of Freepik as its less sensored than Adobe and with my fashion model Photography work im able to successfully use Freepik with NSFW projects for retouch and expand and creative upscale all in one tool, whereas photoshop is painful and rather frustrating to try to get it working with any shot that shows more than a bare elbow. Additionally, Freepik just last week sneaked in the Flux model as part of their options and its a great addition
@ScottLahteine
@ScottLahteine Месяц назад
I've noticed that a lot of models will generate generic persons (without specifying race, age, sex, etc.) in a characteristic way because they've been trained on specific sets of provided images, possibly involving the hiring of models from the local region. Certain Stable Diffusion models (e.g., Deliberate V2) seem to favor Asian looking people, while Flux tends to generate people who look German. But they can be a little more creative and flexible with the right prompting. I definitely look forward to trying out LoRAs with Flux to see how well they help to steer Human characters towards a desired look.
@EminenShad
@EminenShad Месяц назад
Couple in left looks like they migrated from village in developing country,and showcasing themselves as "cool" and "style" while looking like people who are raised on tiktok. On the right-more or less normally clothed people with style (except for painted hair).
@GameArtsCafe
@GameArtsCafe Месяц назад
Runway also has major restrictions, no one can generate actual engaged battle scenes etc
@TheFeedRocket
@TheFeedRocket Месяц назад
Yup, it's very strict, I might jump ship unless they loosen up. You can't even do a normal woman in a bikini on the beach, or horror. I get some false positives too. But it's still crazy good.
@punchtalestudio
@punchtalestudio Месяц назад
@@TheFeedRocketwell I got censored for a drilling machine 🤓
@HolidayAtHome
@HolidayAtHome Месяц назад
you totally forgot to mention Stable Diffusion with its Loras. You can generate custom content that is 100% impossible with all the other tools ( right now ). Image your kids draw their own character in their own style. You can make a Lora of it let it go on an adventure =)
@mentalmoves6032
@mentalmoves6032 25 дней назад
I disagree with you on all the pictures but one - the skyscraper is better by MJ. And I think the FLUX hand does have the right amount fingers, but the pinkie is folded down. I am looking at my left hand right now and I can't see my pinkie.
@DrSid42
@DrSid42 Месяц назад
Flux isn't censored ? Haha ..
@gogoraz
@gogoraz 21 день назад
13:33 The fingers on the hand of the happy king are five and you can see this.
@BringThemBack2024
@BringThemBack2024 Месяц назад
Flux has good image quality, and it can do text and signage. However, Flux is also censored, and its generated human models still have six fingers and six toes per appendage. So not yet impressed. And I used the Pro. Let's see what happens in Pro.2
@finger00
@finger00 2 дня назад
I've been running Flux / Comfy UI on an rtx 3080 10g and it performs well. Loading a new checkpoint can take a while depending on the size, like flux-dev but once loaded rendering is fast enough.
@Michaelanderson1985
@Michaelanderson1985 Месяц назад
I just realized I no longer use my stock photos website I used to used, I kinda feel bad for them
@Tsuchimursu
@Tsuchimursu 17 дней назад
btw don't try to use flux for bare feet, especially the underside. You'll get the usual nightmares. Found this out by accident when trying how it understands different poses instead just standing straight. (not very well.)
@CringeCrafter-uv1lt
@CringeCrafter-uv1lt Месяц назад
I was just comparing Flux Schnell and Flux Dev on my local machine and my 12gb RTX 3060 and 32gb ram handled both fairly well in comfyui. Schnell took about 40 seconds at 4 steps and Dev took about 120-140 seconds at 20 steps. The Dev images were much more detailed and realistic, but took longer. That's the trade-off, I guess.
@gatwick127
@gatwick127 Месяц назад
and the big downside of not being able to sell them? I don't understand why commercial use is not allowed for dev......
@CringeCrafter-uv1lt
@CringeCrafter-uv1lt Месяц назад
@@gatwick127 You can sell your outputs. You just can't set up a service using the models or derivative models and charge for it. Here's the part of the license that talks about outputs: Outputs. We claim no ownership rights in and to the Outputs. You are solely responsible for the Outputs you generate and their subsequent uses in accordance with this License. You may use Output for any purpose (including for commercial purposes), except as expressly prohibited herein. You may not use the Output to train, fine-tune or distill a model that is competitive with the FLUX.1 [dev] Model.
@insurancecasino5790
@insurancecasino5790 Месяц назад
Most artists are actually taking data from movies, shows and other sources of art. We/they just don't realize it because we don't store that data like AI would making it easily retrievable. I know of well known artists in all fields that that are similar to other artists, but with their own unique style, and when you ask them what inspired them, they usually reveal the source. From there, you could find the similarities. Say the movie Pulp Fiction. Tarantino literally tells us his ideas came from the writer Elmore Leonard. And he's right. But should Elmore sue everybody that does similar things to his work? Who inspired him?
@thomasmann4536
@thomasmann4536 Месяц назад
how is this shitty argument not dead yet :D even copying a style 1:1 takes years of dedication, skill and effort, while also being a conscious choice. A person can choose a picture as reference, but they can also IGNORE a picture. AI does not choose what it trains on, nor can it choose to ignore certain pieces. also, as any experienced artist will tell you, the biggest inspiration of an artist is the real world.^^ btw, we store data, AI doesn't. We can recall an image we have seen and, if we are good enough, recreate it 1:1. AI can't, because it does not store images, it only breaks down every image into a vector with much lower dimensionality, trying to extract the most important features, then updating its model weights accordingly.
@insurancecasino5790
@insurancecasino5790 Месяц назад
@@thomasmann4536 We are a more "advanced" version. But you can train simple AI models, and draw a basic chicken. Then train the AI, like the artists have trained, to make it a different style. I'm an artist. I can draw. Just like AI I used a graph to get the 3D right. I even use my hand to make similar shapes of what I'm drawing as a reference. AI is just a "tool' It can't innovate like you or I can "yet". But, if you are an artist, use that tool. It can lessen the workload. Maybe learn how to train your own model just for you. It's pretty cool stuff. You can layer your models and advance your styles much faster.
@thomasmann4536
@thomasmann4536 Месяц назад
@@insurancecasino5790 my friend, what you say isn'T wrong, though also not fully right. btw, im a 3d animator but my academic background is in AI, Ive studied NLP under Björn Ommer, one of the creators of stable diffusion, and the tech is always fascinating to me. I actually made my own models, and tinkered around with the tech. The biggest difference between using conventional tools and AI is this: you can get really good at Blender or Photoshop and ten create EXACTLY what you want CONSISTENTLY. But no matter how good you get at using AI, you will never be able to generate exactly what you want consistently. it's just the inherent probabilistic nature of these models. ya, you can use them as base, or inspiration, which i often do. but in the end if you were to rely on AI entirely, youre just trading a skill limitation for a model limitation, which is one you can't overcome yourself.^^
@insurancecasino5790
@insurancecasino5790 Месяц назад
@@thomasmann4536 Depends on what type of art. If you're brush is random to see what might inspire you, AI is "perfect" for that inspiration. I generated a chicken with sunglasses. Welp, it put these giant sunglasses in front of a tiny chicken on a rock in a country style landscape. So, I asked myself, who does those glasses belong to? A giant? Then it gave me the surreal idea of a giant cooking his chickens with magnifying glasses that look like two magnifying glass made into magnifying sunglasses. You don't realize what's going until you look at the chicken, and notice it's actually cooking. I would have never come up with that without AI. And there's the surreal connection to "sun" glasses.
@thomasmann4536
@thomasmann4536 Месяц назад
@@insurancecasino5790 thats an unfalsifiable statement. nobody can prove you wrong on this because it already happened and now you already have this idea in mind. You might have not gotten this idea had you not used AI. But you would have probably gotten a different one. Maybe a better one?
@griptopia
@griptopia Месяц назад
thank you, been spending money and working these things out for myself so seeing what you think is cool.
@dj0ai
@dj0ai Месяц назад
Great show. I am gorging in it.
@holden2gether
@holden2gether Месяц назад
Thanks for a very subjective review of both, I do however find the Flux characters to be more photo-realistic. The first one of the girl, as soon as the MJ one came up, even though the lighting is superb and you could even see the tiny hairs under her chin, something about the skin just screamed "computer generated" to me (whether that was because it was too perfect and didn't have any imperfections in it?). She looked like a well modeled game character where as the Flux, whilst being 'scandanavian noir' as you put it, the skin tone and texture looked like she was real. The same with the couples, again the MJ looked like well modeled game characters and even though the rest might have looked funny, the Flux characters skin tones and features looked more realistic to me.
@GastonDeCardenasphoto
@GastonDeCardenasphoto 29 дней назад
Would like to see a head to head using actual photos as prompt between MJ and Flux.1 or a comparison of MJ and Flux.1 blending images together.
@fnunez
@fnunez Месяц назад
Extremely good at following specs and artistically spartan. Yep, it's German.
@MultiSteveB
@MultiSteveB 15 дней назад
I wonder what all the models produce when asked to do a self-portrait? What will AI think that AI looks like?
@leynadIX
@leynadIX 27 дней назад
12:38 it has 5 fingers, not 4, you can look at the finger behind the sword
@spacedinosaur8733
@spacedinosaur8733 20 дней назад
I'm going to have to give the win to Flux here. My promt "Space Sherrif T-Rex holding a Winchester rifle" gave me a dinosaur hold a rifle (granted, it was a shotgun) but still better than anything sfw/violence censored which at best made my dinosaur holding a parasol.
@James_m7
@James_m7 20 дней назад
How do you install FLUX on your own computer and what are the requirements?
@MartinNewton1981
@MartinNewton1981 Месяц назад
Your "subjectives view points" on the matter are shared by yours truly. Great video!
@aisamsonreal
@aisamsonreal Месяц назад
I appreciate that!
@GonzaChavz
@GonzaChavz 13 дней назад
In fact, in the architectural prompt, I really prefer Flux's result, because MJ's might look amazing, but it is a bluff in realism and actual architecture sense, if you would try to 3D model MJ's result you would suffer trying to make true, makes sense shape that can replicate that result. Where as in the flux result, the shapes are clear, defined and makes sense of how the building is constructed. I would much rather take the inspiration from flux than from MJ to achieve something "Real"
@HarryHeck2020
@HarryHeck2020 Месяц назад
Why did you use schnell? You should be comparing the pro models. Midjourney doesn't have a distilled model to compare it too.
@thenarrowgate3063
@thenarrowgate3063 24 дня назад
You misspelled crown on the film prompt, perhaps that is why midjourney missed it, but the fact that flux did is awesome
@emonhossain_pro
@emonhossain_pro 16 дней назад
Thanks for the insightful review!
@ApoMaTu3aTop
@ApoMaTu3aTop Месяц назад
With the advancements of softweare and hardware self-hosted AI servers will become a norm in the near future. This would be an amazing time for creative people =)
@Thedeepseanomad
@Thedeepseanomad Месяц назад
Flux uncensored? You seem to have been given the wrong information.
@marki2325
@marki2325 Месяц назад
Technically not censored but not trained on any nsfw content
@Thedeepseanomad
@Thedeepseanomad Месяц назад
@@marki2325 arguable the strongest form of censorship.
@Crystan
@Crystan Месяц назад
@@marki2325 That's incorrect. It has absolutely been trained on NSFW content. Certain prompts can still generate nudity, though this is mostly restricted to bottoms and breasts. As for genitals, it clearly has enough training data to accurately depict most of the groin, but the data has been adjusted to censor the naughty bits. So, yes. It's censored. Whether it's at the training data level or the way it interprets prompts it's still censored because it was an intentional decision on the part of the Flux devs.
@OlivePablo-ni4ur
@OlivePablo-ni4ur 11 дней назад
can you still run and install flux if you don’t meet minimum requirements (albeit slow speed)
@FaceI3ss
@FaceI3ss Месяц назад
They're both incredible
@DFMoray
@DFMoray Месяц назад
The photoshop one is annoyingly controlled. You can't do anything anatomy based or anything with a celebrity, etc.
@King_Alfred_849
@King_Alfred_849 23 дня назад
WTF is the point of it all really? 🤔
@hiro2protagonist
@hiro2protagonist 6 дней назад
Fun?
@edemiljo
@edemiljo 25 дней назад
Why use Schnell? It's not a fair comparison when Dev and Pro are the comparable benchmarks
@anthonydjavanharris1900
@anthonydjavanharris1900 29 дней назад
Good work again, towards the end what is the name of the software that helps with character consistency? Render something. Thanks much
@konberner170
@konberner170 Месяц назад
No point arguing about matters of taste, but I like the couple on the right better around 15:00. Couple on left looks shabby and trying too hard.
@lounatic8369
@lounatic8369 Месяц назад
yes it is free but NO, it is NOT uncensored
@joelface
@joelface 25 дней назад
Would have been more interesting, I think, to compare Midjourney with the Pro version. Sure it would be more expensive, but probably still cheaper than MJ and I bet the results would have been far superior. Anyway, still an interesting video and appreciated your examples.
@alphaomega154
@alphaomega154 Месяц назад
how many TOPS required to run it at minimum? i personally would probably never use it. im topless most of the time.
@candidtruthofficial
@candidtruthofficial 27 дней назад
"schnell means fart in German dont'cha know" is totally what I thought you said LOL
@dailyrd
@dailyrd Месяц назад
Why do you compared schnell to mid journey to start??? Make sense to challenge a payed subscription app with a fast free one? Ahahhah
@DarkPhantomchannel
@DarkPhantomchannel Месяц назад
Well... for the "censorship" part i found out that Flux (using it locally with ComfyUI) is ok with boobs and butts but doesn't want to draw the rest... so it isn't really uncensored; non totally at least
@slfanta
@slfanta 23 дня назад
"A rather large amount of digits"😂
@real-timelabel-freeimaging4653
@real-timelabel-freeimaging4653 11 дней назад
At 15:03 the left couple looks almost identical from face geometry and expression...
@mangodblackAI
@mangodblackAI Месяц назад
I used all 3 Flux, and I can't believe you made a whole video with its lowest level to go up against MJ. I must admit tho you got some incredible shots from Schnell. Flux Pro should be your next video. Even Flux dev is much better than Schnell too
@TopGyrlOfficial
@TopGyrlOfficial 28 дней назад
Why you didn't test any image reference features? Flux hasn't got image reference?
@KrugerFS
@KrugerFS Месяц назад
Flux is really amazing, being able to run it locally with 4Gb Vram and 32 Gb system ram it only takes about 3 minutes to produce very beautiful images. The NSFW does need a bit more development, but that's not what i'm interested in, i'm just happy i can run it locally and play around with it, oh yeah, and flux is free. Rating the images you created: 1. Flux looked more realistic than MJ. 2. 4 tries vs 2 tries might not be very fair, but hands are difficult. 3. You saw the result, but flux can mess it up trust me. 4. The king from Flux does look more realistic and both hands do have 5 fingers, MJ didn't show hands so hard to fault flux there. 5. The flux couple were prettier imo, but the background for MJ was better. 6. MJ had the better image, but again Flux Schnell is their lowest quality model and still free vs paid MJ 7. Both did well, Flux interpreted better but looks a bit 3 model like
@felipe21994
@felipe21994 Месяц назад
as an architect the Flux skyscraper makes more sense on the realism aspect, also the scale and proportions are more believable, the MJ is not bad but is more focused on digital art examples that I do like, but are not as detailed and as believable, also the king prompt in flux had 5 fingers, but one was behind the sword.
@JamieJamez
@JamieJamez Месяц назад
8:32 the problem I have with this photo, is that she is looking directly into the camera, instead of the other person in the scene
@jetnavigator
@jetnavigator Месяц назад
I guess it's all subjective. The couple you preferred are what I'd be happy with from a "garbage humans" prompt...oh well...
@udiorockmeamadeus
@udiorockmeamadeus 29 дней назад
I once was using DALL-E to make a cartoon, I had inigo montoya, and he was to look at his hand and notice that everyone is the six finger man.. But I could not get it to make a bad hand.. It blew my mind.. Cause it had been doing them wrong for a while and then it got upgraded and it started making correct hands.
@DigitalAI_Francky
@DigitalAI_Francky 29 дней назад
I would say that Midjourney is great to create graphics or characters for video games, a little bit like Unreal Engine. we cannot tell that the quality of the skin is photorealistic because it seems always a little bit synthetic. If you take a picture with a camera you will see the difference I think, very easily. But the artistic result is very good for sure with great DOF, color range, etc.. the example of the happy king, we can see that it isn’t realistic. If you compare the skin of the Midjourney King with a photo of Theoden from the Lord of the Rings movie, you can see the difference easily. For an animation movie or a game introduction, it is perfect, very artistic but I’m not sure that it would be good enough for a real movie like the lord of the Rings, or maybe for very fast and short scene where we cannot see the difference.
@fayemar86
@fayemar86 Месяц назад
I just had to laugh at how "schnell - fast" you pronounced it in German :D so cute. I'm curious to see what Flux is like, I'll give it a try.
@loxpower
@loxpower Месяц назад
Hey! Great video. Just a heads up, I noticed a few mouth noises that were a bit distracting. There are tools that can help clean up mouth noises and make your audio more polished (like iZotope mouth de-click, which it's very easy to use but I'm sure there are other ones).
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