For me the Mido is the better watch compared to the Seiko. I prefer the Mido’s timing bezel to the GMT master-2 and similar 24 hour bezels, for me a timing bezel is much more versatile in every day life and combined with the screw down crown and the 200m water resistance makes this a true diving watch as well. The quick adjust metal bracelet in the Mido is simply amazing, much better than the rolex oyster bracelet quick adjustment IMO, and one of the best quick adjustment systems out there. The movement is amazingly accurate, it’s regulated in factory by robots using a laser to cut the length of the spring, and in my experience, offers close to COSC performance in all its versions. The powermatic 80s is one of the few movements at these prices ranges I never feel a need to regulate myself or have someone else do it for me (although it’s not as easy to manually regulate a powermatic 80 it can be done). Mido uses the 800.611 version with Nivachron (no plastic parts) and although this version is not as resistant to magnetism as the silicium oscillator that comes with the COSC certified version 80.811, it offers good magnetic resistance nonetheless. My MIDO has remained well within COSC parameters (as are my other 3 watches with powermatic 80s) after I demagnetized it after arrival. I have the blue version, and the color scheme both with the blue strap and the metal bracelet from Mido work for business casual environments as well as sporty. This watch for me is a good one-watch-collection candidate.
Thanks for your comment! I feel that the timing bazel is more useful than a rotating 24-hour bazel as well However, I'm not sure having the 24-hour marking on the chapter ring helps the GMT hand with readability That's my only gripe with the mido... It's not very good at being a GMT because it wants to be a diver, and the GMT feature is a bit of an afterthought Except it's not ISO certified, so while it has decent water resistance, it's not the best diver you can get for the sticker price So after owning both the seiko and the mido In my mind, the Seiko is a better gmt, and the Mido is a better sports watch, but it falls short of being a proper diver like a seiko king samurai or king turtle In the end, everything in life involves compromise We have to choose the one that seems like the least compromising to us My favorite diver is my white dial king samurai on a strapco bracelet with a ratcheting clasp. Very similar to the Mido but with better quality and build, my seiko sharp-edge is my favorite gmt and is the most elegant watch in my collection, and the Mido (currently on my wrist) is the go-to when I want both, and I’m willing to compromise a little on elegance, diver prowess, and gmt readability to get that all in one feel Thanks again for the great comment! Enjoy your Mido, and wear it on good health!
I live in Croatia and I have just bought Mido Ocean star 600. This is my first watch. Price is just above 1.100 euro. I dont know much about it but I feel it is good quality. This one looks very nice though
I narrowed my search for a true GMT down to this Mido and the Presage. I decided on the Seiko. It's such a beautiful piece in every way. Love it! I might circle back for the Mido as the price continues to fall. I'm seeing the Mido for as low as $850 now. Beautiful watch as well. The two watches truly live in two different worlds. As you said the Presage is more dressy. The Mido you wouldn't hesitate to hit the beach or dive with.
Great choice! I got the Seiko first, and I don't regret it The Mido is great, but I force myself to wear it. Every time I reach for it, I see the Seiko and second-guess myself I love them both, but if I could only have one, I would choose the Seiko 😆 With that said, if the mido falls below 800, it would be foolish not to pick one up It's such a great value, lol
I think the Seiko Presage is the most beautiful of the two, but the Mido is more rugged :) The one downside of the Mido is the GMT hand is tough to read under most llighting conditions due to the 24-hour markers being on the chapter ring :(
I am looking at a true GMT and was searching reviews on the Mido, when found this video. I really like your down to earth review which gives good, genuine, honest vibes. Its all subjective but your unfiltered feelings gives food for thought and for that, thank you. I really like the first reaction and then 1 week opinion, again so down to earth helpful and great common sense approach to a review. Super helpful, Well done.
I’m kinda a 4hz snob as well, so I tell myself it’s a 4hz movement which they slowed down to 3hz to assist with the 80hr power reserve. I love my Ocean Star GMT. I love that they kept it as diving bezel as the rehaut has the 24hr scale, best of both worlds imho. Just can’t track a third time zone but I’m not a jet setter so that’s not a problem for me 😂. Great review.
Thanks for the comment! I'm a big fan of the timing bazel However, I do find that the 24-hour markers on the chapter ring make the GMT hand hard to read under certain lighting conditions But I think that's an ok trade-off for this watch Miyota has a 4hz GMT starting to show up in exclusive micro brands. Don't be surprised if La Joux Perret borrows the design to make a 4hz travel GMT with an 80-hour reaevere :) It should be interesting to see what happens in the next few years Hopefully, we have an explosion of affordable true gmts in the market
@@LosNTime Good point! It does seem a bit hard to read the 24scale in the chapter ring in certain conditions. I thought it was just my bad eyes lol. That Miyota movement had added some excitement to the micro brand world. Boldr & Jack Mason already have true gmts on pre-order using this movement. The Jack Mason will be good for those with smaller wrists or those who like smaller watches. At $999 though, I think I got a better watch paying a little more for the Mido.
I’ve had the Mido for about 6 months, and I like it. The legibility and lume aren’t as good as my Cheap old SKX Seiko, but it keeps better time. And it’s handsome.
Yeah, it’s nice Now that I’ve had it for a bit, I think the sharp edge is better I don’t know what it is, but when it comes down to it, when I reach for one of the two, I reach for the Seiko 😂
So was going to buy this- having just bought the sharp edge at a bargain price, I got offered this new for £500 ($646) but after doing some research I ended up buying its sister watch the Certina DS Action GMT Powermatic true gmt in green/pvd for £350 ($450) I couldn’t say no to that! On its way to me next week. Can’t wait I’m usually a Rolex / omega guy but fancied a couple of different types for my collection.
Certina is awesome Did you see my review on the action diver? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4Hi-puA45-o.htmlsi=xA4fGMUI-s7w-eT5 Sound like you got a great deal!!!
Yeah, the Mido is a hell of a deal, I would take the Seiko Sharp Edge GMT Over the Longines tho... The Zulu line doesn't do it for me Longines does have some interesting column wheel chrono tho Cheers!
Excellent review. I have a Mido and agree with you on the Powermatic being a meh movement However, the bracelet is amazing and the design is spot on! Best value GMT for under 1000.😊
Hey, thanks for the comment! The clasp is my favorite part of the bracelet I already scratched the heck out of the polished center links tho 😆 Thanks for the comment!!!
Hamilton also has a true GMT in the Broadway GMT Worldtimer although over $1000 retail can be had for under $1000 grey market. Mido is often overlooked but excellent quality overall
Almost everything about this watch is perfect. Fantastic build quality, well-priced and good looking. The one thing that is devastatingly wrong though is the hands. The GMT hand is far too large for its function as a secondary complication. It should be much more discrete. The skeletonizing of the minute hand reduces its legibility even in broad daylight. Viewing the time in the dark is almost impossible. The huge lume section on the GMT hands obscures the applied markers, and the lume potion of the minute hand gets completely lost in front of the markers, and is outshone by the GMT lume. I bought this watch because I like Mido, they are good watches, and I needed a diver/GMT for my diving trips abroad, but I’ve found that I don’t like it much because of it’s legibility.
I found the hands to be phenomenal My only real complaint is that the 24-hour markers on the chapter ring are too small and are hard to read That’s the only issue I found with legibility Did you check out the Ocean Star 600? It’s not a GMT, but it’s a fantastic diver And the lume is face-melting :) Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. I appreciate it 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
Those big date watches are awesome I want the limited edition day of the dead one Super cool. I think swiss vs. Japanese is something you should choose on watch by watch basis The Seiko sharp edge is a much more excellent watch in almost every way But the Mido is awesome too. Thanks for the comment!
Yeah, it's a great value, Man, but I do love the Seiko as well tho 😆 I need to do long-term reviews of both I can't help but reach for the seiko more often I kind of have to force myself to wear the mido
I have the anniversary white dial Seiko. I removed the bracelet and use a navy blue elastic paratrooper band which is my default now on all sports watches. It's now so comfortable. I'm losing about 8 seconds day. My father wore Mido dress watches when he was a stock broker in the 1960s. They were very big in those days as dive watches and suits were not really accepted.
The white dial is wonderful! i think my Seiko looses about 8 seconds too. I've been meaning to regulate it but i love it so much i don't want to risc it lol
@@LosNTime i was concerned with the lack of ceramic on the bezel but looking at all the used ones on Ebay over the last year it seems that Seiko Diashield isnt just some marketing nonsense. I was also concerned about the anti reflective coating on the outside of the Mido GMT but owners say its not been an issue. The resale on the Seiko GMT has been pretty soild I was expecting most would be sellon 50% off the original MSRP by now but after the intial 30% discount new and used listings are fairly close. Well maybe that will change with crypto collapse taking down the mass produced expensive watches a few big notches. This Seiko has made me seriously consider a Grand Seiko if the prices do take a hit. That new GS GMT peacock indigo blue is a banger the green bamboo one too.
Yeah, I think the Seiko has held its value better than the Mido, at least in the gray market And the steel Bezel is pretty tough Mine does have some micro scratches around the 24-hour marking, but I can only see them with a Lupe under certain lighting conditions My opinion is that ten years from now, the seíko will still have a following. It will be a watch that’s more revered the more time passes by The Mido is fantastic, but it will come and go with much less fan fair As I mentioned in happy to have both tho :) Cheers 🍻
Thanks for the comment John! Unfortunately, Sellita doesn't make a True GMT Only Caller GMT The movements are not the same Nothing wrong with homages tho But if you want a true/travel GMT complication (jumping hour hand) Even in the micro brand space, you are looking at around USD 800
NO PLASTIC ESCAPEMENT/PARTS Tissot uses a titanium and nickel alloy termed 'NIVACHRON'. Tissot has managed to create an effective machine that not only is magnetic resistant but that also boasts 80 hours of power reserve, much more than the usual 42hrs of movements of those early days. The way I see it, the Powematic 80 is actually an evolution of the mechanical movent, so I wouldn't call any Powermatic 80 'lower' grade. My Certina DS-1 has been running within COSC parameters for over 10 years without servicing. And yes, the movement can be regulated if it needs be and is not disposable, another running misconception.
sorry that's not correct, there is more than one type of power matic There are 3 basic grades. Powermatic 80.601 (ETA C07.111) Powermatic 80.661 (ETA C07.651) Powermatic 80.811 (ETA C07.811) C07.111 is the lowest grade and it has a plastic palate fork which is why it's noted to have 2 fewer jewels (23 vs 25) the C07.651has normal palate fork and 25 jewels being the mid-grade movement The C07.811 is the highest grade movement with a normal palate fork 25 jewels and a Silicium hairspring for better anti-magnetism So look closely at your watch, as it will be different depending on the brand and watch you get. for example, based on the Tissot website, the PRX has a C07.111 (23 jewels), but the gentleman has a C07.811 (25 jewels) look at the movement section on the Tissot website and you will see these tow matches don't have the same jewel count.
The issue with the Seiko is its a Seiko lol. Spending more than $500 on one is just a no from me. Don't get me wrong I like the brand, I recently bought an SSK for example and I obviously can only speak for myself but there is no Spark when I wear one, like putting on an Orient or even one of the decent Timexs. Grand Seiko is a different beast. I do hope my SARB keep gaining value though haha.
We will have to agree to disagree here :) The sharp edge GMT is like 80% of a grand Seiko at 1/5th of the price There's a lot of spark on the sharp edge for me But if it's not for you, then items not for you Thank you so much for taking the time to share your opinion 🍺
Where could you possibly find it 'under $900'? I had one for $1100 and that was like months of searching and waiting. Even used all of them are over $1K. Oh, you don't pay taxes. My bad.
Hey! Sorry for the confusion! There are sales taxes in the US I think in my state, it's 8% I must admit that culturally, in the US, we take sales tax for granted and often do not discuss it I apologize for taking that for granted Finally, the price out the door on Jomashop was 1005 USD 899 + 76 (Rx) + 29 (shipping) Thank you so much for commenting 🍺🍺🍺
@@LosNTime When you have 20% tax it's hard to ignore it ) I can fly to NY, buy a Rolex and spend a wild weekend in Manhattan and it's still be cheaper than ordering the same watch online.
Thank you for the feedback! I usually throw dimensions and specs as “scrolling text” during the intro I figure people would pause the video and check them out if it's what they are into I usually have so much to say, and the videos are much longer than I want them to be, lol I'll consider your feedback for the following review and see if I can make it work Thank you so much for taking the time to comment 🍺
@@CristianQuinteroIt still serves me well. I wore it a lot in the summer, went to Vegas with my family, and spent a reasonable amount of time at the pool The blue and red colorway is my favorite at the moment It doesn't hurt that it comes with a second strap (matching NATO) Definitely worth picking up :) Thanks for the comment 🍺
IMHO the Powermatic is not a “meh” movement. I have two Certinas and one Mido and are my champions in precision. For example I have an A Lange & Soenhe Datograph with an incredible finishing on the caliber and overall but still keeps a deviation of +30 seconds a day which I find non acceptable for that kind of price. The Powermatic 80 compete in precisión easely with Rolex or Omega
Hey, thanks for the comment! My issue with the Powermatic is that, in my opinion, it is a downgraded 2824. It's simply harder to work on for the sake of cutting the cost of production 2824 are awesome I really love them I'm currently reviewing a chronometer-grade powermatic, which so far has been the most accurate movement I put my hand on Who knows, maybe it will change my mind With that said, I would steer away from the lower-grade Powermatic (c07.1xx) with the plastic escapement, but this is just my opinion. I'm more open to c07.6xx and above Cheers to you, my friend 🍺
@@gustavofischer9657 some are, some are not so much, check out my reply to your other comment, you can learn about the "different types of powermatics"
I prefer the Seiko. But I like both. What kind of games do you design btw? I'm a gamer and I enjoy a mix of JRPGs, platformers, fighting games as my big ones. but I play a bit of everything. If you haven't already, I'd love to see you review the Seiko.
I don't blame you! I prefer the Seiko too Their both good But the Seiko is just so much more refined, lol I work at Bethesda, so BRPG? 😂 I did not review the Seiko when I first got it, but I’ve been meaning to do a long-term owner review I need to find the time :)
@@ColinLack Of all time? Man, that's tricky... Ghostbusters for the Sega Genesis and Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out for the NEs are games I still play today... I love arcade basketball so so the OG “Run N Gun” gets a lot of play on Mame I also have many good memories of Sega CD titles like “Raise of the Dragon.” Early RPG would be fantasy start on Geneais and final fantasy seven on PS1 Favorite contemporary games I like uncharted/the Last of us series a lot and played tons of cyberpunk. Lol, oh, an spider man miles morales 😆 Two games I'm trying to play now are Dead Space Remake and HiFi Rush 😆 I have had much time to make videos or play games, tho, lol
I have this Presage and while it’s definitely “nice” ….it’s just wears a bit too big for my smaller wrist. As such it kind of does a poor job in being a sporty travel watch. Another Nitpick: those sub dials are not very useful , and worse, break up the star of the show: that dial texture ! In retrospect, I should have probably just picked up the three-dial, slightly smaller version of this watch, (despite smaller case , probably still gives you more clean “dial area” to enjoy)…. And shopped for a GMT elsewhere.
Fair enough I find the date dial pretty useless But I like the power reserve I have a 7.5-inch wrist, so the size doesn't bother me What did you end up getting instead?
@@LosNTime Nothing yet I still have it lol. I’m tempted by the Bulova oceanographer GMT or the new Alpinist GMT . But I need to get an example of the former on my wrist to give it a test drive first
Today I went to test the Mido GMT and I found its GMT hand didn't really align to 24hr markers. I tested with three colors of this model blue, black and two-tone and they were the same.
After you mentioned this, I went ahead and checked mime, and at first, I thought I was seeing what you mention However... In the video, I show the hands on the mido have a lot of play when they are being set, which means depending on the direction you are moving the hands, things might not always look like they are lining up However, when you push the crown in to set the time, the hands stiffen and line up precisely with the marking on the chapter (at least they do on mine) If you get a chance, test the watch with a good amount of wind and see if they line up at the time of pushing the crown in Let me know what you find out, and thanks for the comment
I can literally see the gmt hand jump into the correct alignment when I push the crown in 100% I'm curious to know if you find it to be the same for you
Yes it does Sinn and Oris are great watches I'm not sure that they offer true/travel GMT complications, but they make some great watches none the less Thank you so much for taking the time to comment. You rock 🍺
Just do what I do Eat more cheeseburgers It works. I have the 8” wrists to prove it :) If you want an affordable swiss diver at 38mm, look at the latest glycine 👍🏼
Thank you for the feedback Check out one of the newer videos. Let me know if it sounds any better I have been working a lot on improving the sound of every video Also, thank you for bringing this up. It helps in improving the videos 🍺
ETA is the only Swiss Manufactured making a true GMT movement under 1k, and it's limited to power matic movements, which are exclusive to swatch brands The Ocean One Gmt is a “caller GMT” not a “true/travel GMT.” Caller Gmt and travel/true gmt are functionally different complications Thanks for your comment
Claro que tiene futuro Hay mucha jente que no quiere relejos de menos de 40mm Por ejemplo mis muñecas miden 20 centímetros El 44mm me queda perfecto 👌 Pero bueno no todos van a tener muñecas de carnicero como yo, pero eso si, no soy el único 😂 Gracias por la nota! 🍺
@@LosNTime hi, take a look at 2:40 if I didn’t mistake, there is a gap between the end link and the lug.Anyway, I am owner of Mido Gmt two tones since the first day it was introduced, still keeping great time.
Oh yeah! You know, looking at my Mido, the gap is about the same They both have a good amount of light lick, in my opinion. But not as bad as the helm Miyako I reviewed some time back :) I'm glad you like your Mido It's a great watch I love owning both :)
I like the timing bazel a lot buuuuuut I agree that having the 24-hour markings on the chapter ring makes reading the GMT hand much harder! Thanks for the comment 🤓
@@danielday7033😢 Thank you! Music will stick around for sure I think music, in general, makes everything better 😆 I want people to enjoy the reviews, but I also have to stay true to myself Thank you for taking the time to share your opinion. It means a lot!!
I would buy a Mido if they offer me a No Date version. I hate so much Date on a watch, looks asymmetric and it’s useless with a phone in your pocket nowadays. I buy watches as a luxury thing, visual, not for functionality.
@@LosNTime Then you are part of those snobs that pretent to travel 60 times a year and can't allow 30 seconds on the plane to adjust the gmt hand? Good to know.
@@TyphonLeTitan I am sorry I am coming across as a snob. I think that anyone that wants a caller GMT should have one I recently reviewed the Christopher Ward Sealander GMT, which is a caller GMT, and I think it's pretty nice The reason I prefer the travel GMT at this particular price range is simply that it is a more niche movement vs. the caller GMT, which is just a tiny modification to a day date movement ( day date happens to be a pretty inexpensive complication) Check out the following two videos if you have the time. Hopefully, you will see I am not trying to be a snob or poop on anyone's preference 🍺 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CZYhREpQmA8.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mucYMAr2bcc.html
Mido tends to be a bit bland in general But I think that this GMT is the best-looking watch in their catalog Overall swiss watches take a lot fewer chances, and while they are not ugly, they can often feel a bit bland and uninspiring If you break down watches into three categories, affordable, high complication, and stunning esthetics, the reality is that watched can only live in two out of three of those categories The Mido is affordable and has a high complication (travel GMT), so it should be allowed to be a little rough around the edges :)
I have not opened it up So I can't tell you for sure What I can tell you is that the 6r64a is a high-grade 4hz true GMT movement that has a much cleaner finish than the nh35/36 movements found in more affordable Seiko watches The striping and polishing look great through the display case back, even under magnification
