So I saw Midsommar the other day, and it was absolutely terrible. Buckle up, because I'm going to town on this one. Want to support my channel? Find me on Patreon: / thecriticaldrinker
The fact that some of you people believe that the film ended on a 'liberating note' is terrifying to me. That means that the film effectively brainwashed you just like the cult brainwashed the vulnerable protagonist.
Movie: Is about a woman who is so emotionally damaged by the loss of her family that she would do anything to feel loved, to the extent that she kills her own boyfriend and joins a cult. Critics: It's about female empowerment.
@@waynedas873 actually that reminds me of something. During the Women's right's movement in the 1960's a person the protesters used to as a symbol of female empowerment was Lilith. Adam's first wife who kidnapped and killed children. I don't know who though that was a good idea but it's hilarious. It would be like if for Pride Month they made Jeffrey Dahmer their mascot
@@angel_of_rust Because I didn’t pick my name and was a Catholic because my parents were. It’s this new thing called LEARNING. Once you LEARN more about something, you can make a better informed decision. Like, if you stopped eating bags of d1cks, like we know you love to do, would you change your name from Richard to something else? Nope, you’d still keep eating bags of d1cks, like you do, with your same name. Maybe one day you’d LEARN the irony of your name and your favorite food, bags of d1cks, and stop eating them. Did I explain that for you okay or do I need to break out the crayons and markers?
@@reddotsxul8166 Of course! Death is easy and too quick. No, it does something much worse. It keeps you alive and fills your mind with doubt, makes you believe that you need it and have to give it money, that it doesn’t need, or you are going to suffer for eternity by the very same hands that love you and created you. All the while, cherry-picking only the verses that suit the narrative and leaving context on the floor. We have more proof of aliens, than most religions have of their religious icons and you don’t see SETI starting an inquisition. With that said, I will gladly fight anyone that wants to stop people from wanting to do that. Just don’t make me conform to you. Thank you for coming to my TEDTalk
I thought it was pretty obvious that the whole movie is about the main character being sucked into the cult and that the ending isn't meant to be positive.
Funnily enough...the entire Swedish population got dragged into a suicide cult, that is the swedish inmigration policies..and now, with the prospect of being the place with the highest rape statistics in all Europe, I'm pretty sure the guy being burned alive its a metaphor of the native swedish (particularly girls) who are poor enough to be unable to leave the country..And of course, Dani its the feminist swedish girl who got away with destroying their own country, and moved to Norway...where they are planning to do the same...for a sequel
Shocking anyone would be stupid enough to think that a tragically grief afflicted person getting sucked into a horrifying cult would be intended as some message of empowerment. This review is embarrassing
Honestly this is what I got from the movie. I think dany as a character shows the weaknesses that allow cults to prey on people and ultimately make them feel empowered by the crazy shit they do in them.
She is technically 'empowered'. Dani finally found people who are willing to tolerate her, accept her, love her, most importantly, a community she *feels* she truly belongs. And yes, whether she knows it or not, her identity was assimilated by the cult.
@@afbriant They singled her out from the start. Dani was the one that the cult was able to elicit reactions the most and her emotional fragility isn't very subtle. Her rocky relationship with her boyfriend made it easier to sever her tie from the outside world
The ending wasn't supposed to be liberating. Danny smiled because she had been manipulated to stay in the cult. It was a really horrifying ending, and nothing to celebrate over.
@@marcoreynolds9340 Where the fuck do you live mate? Keep the far-fetched political comparisons away. All this whining. You're as bad as those social justice warriors. What a piss poor take.
Nobody ever mentions the awful fact that they have to trick people to come to them just to have sex and they likely do that quite often and kill tons of people after tricking them into thinking it’s an awesome oasis community and having sex with their women and kill them just so they get their babies, because they have become so inbred they can only reproduce deformed children like the monster guy who kills the prick and wears his face to kill the other guy.. so the cult must have realized this a long time ago so now they have to trick people all the time just so they can get healthy children. They probably got a kid from Christian and they have a new outside member and she will end up with kids too, and who knows if the two other guys that got killed had sex before that... they never actually say anything about it, but in my opinion it’s implied by showing the deformed guy and the fact how small/ how few people live in the community/cult, so they all must be related at that point and it’s why they all get excited about new people coming to visit... they have probably been needing to do this for a long time at that point, I’m sure the deformed guy wasn’t anywhere near the first and they probably had tons already die which was part of what led them to realize they were all too related and too inbred and had to resort to only getting kids from people outside the group, so they’ve likely killed countless people at that point, year after year to get their women pregnant and hopefully tricking new young vulnerable girls to join them, as they wouldn’t see the cliff jumping grandparents for a long while until they’d been fully a part of them, anyone they came with to visit they would lie and tell them they gave them rides home lol so any new outside girls would spend their first years thinking it’s a perfect community, and any guys that visited would get to have lots of sex and maybe they’d let them join too, at least at first and kill them later after using them... but who knows at that point. But anyway so I think they’ve had a perfect system of doing that at that point for so long that the only deformed person left alive is that one guy. But yeah it seems like they made this movie slow on purpose to build suspense, but it’s basically their only move, so they’re constantly using the same trick of going really slow in each scene to build suspense to the next jump scare or next creepy part, they do it to a point where the movie is just crawlingly slow dragging on and on soooo sllowww... they had some good parts and were so close to having a fantastic movie... I felt like they were just a few things away from that, but instead it’s a super super slow movie that drags on and on but the good scenes are just good enough to get lots of people to like the movie... but it just could have been so much better...
@@dannybeads3672 i feel like a fast-paced horror movie with scares and shit is good for some, but personally this movie did something that no other horror movie's ever done for me. The slow parts made me feel way more uncomfortable for some reason, and at one point I even had a very hard time breathing. I think it's ok if you dislike this movie, but a thing everyone needs to undersand is that the cult was never meant to be painted in a good light. The ending isn't a liberating moment. It's a psychological horror that leads you to a false sense of security.
@@storminmormn6283 they knew it was a "commune" which normally has a less negative consonance than a cult but a commune normally isn’t religious or into rituals and such while a cult is a little more hardcore so in a way they didn’t know
I think Midsommer did a pretty good job of showing what it's like getting sucked into a cult. Beautifully filmed, I liked that most of the horror happened during the day, which is unique.
@@teebeedahbow Yes, I've seen the OG Wickerman a bit too campy and disco porn to be terrifying 😆 But yeah it's a classic that holds it's own. Still prefer Midsommer. The cinematography is much better.
I think the movie manipulated even some of the audience. To say that a mentally unstable girl got her revenge, that Christian's death was well deserved, that they like Pelle because he actually loves her...to hear all of that frightens me at how a vast majority of people really are not in their right minds at all. I think they would be easily manipulated into joining a cult.
the most horror thing is how a grown man wrote that movie and not only did nobody tell him it was dogshit but they gave him $9 million to turn it into a movie and none of the however many people who helped create this dogshit excuse for "art" told him it was a disaster either.
I thought the movie painted a picture of how vulnerable people can get sucked into these things. And how people can and will take advantage of individuals who are deeply suffering (or cast them out).
And how the movie quite literally brainwashed us into “justifying” them killing the other people as they disrespected the cult, even though they were going to kill them anyways, and even with danis boyfriend they made us really feel bad (at least I did) for him at the end even though he’s such a toxic piece of shit lmaooo and then at the end to make it seem like oh Dani is happy she the queen! Yay! Good ending!
the movie didn't paint that. that's just what happened. no critical thinking by anyone, even the non-vulnerable people. no actual sentient beings exist in the movie at all. it's just a bunch of arbitrary, scripted behavior that only feels authentic or deep to people with limited life experience and/or poor education.
Nah, it is the idiot plot. Actual cults promise an escape of their circumstances and many real, rich, intelligent people are vulnerable. In this one, all the people who went there are too stupid and lack skepticism or self-preservation instinct. The movie is so bare, people had to make justification for it.
Guys, this is not how we celebrate Midsommar, just thought I'd put out a disclaimer, we celebrate midsommar by dancing around a giant cross made of flowers and getting piss-drunk from schnaps.
@@WhatisReal11 That's basically what this channel is. Either the thing he's reviewing is phenomenal or it's the worst thing ever made. There's never any middleground and it just leads to all these toxic reviewers online who have to exaggerate everything for views
@@MrPhbahiayes. The cinematogeaphy nice. The art direction superb. They belong to a better story. The characters are too inhumanely moronic to care for. They are basically fish watching their fellow fish getting caught in a clear and obvious fisherman hook.
@@DrunkenPoetic lmao right. This guy here seems to have trouble with any movies whose depth transcedes star wars cartoons. I enjoy his thoughts on kids movies or action flicks and the like, but anything more demanding really is not suited for his channel. Not really surprising that his core audience has a pre schoolers understanding of academia.
@@BigKnecht He's just an arrogant little sci-fi nerd who think he's got it all worked out. Scorcese and David Lynch had praised Midsommar, but Critical fucking Drinker and his fans are the real experts round here
It was deliberate. The giant pyramid, the human sacrifice, the May Pole, the Cremation of Care, and the feminist message of abortion. This movie is about Illuminati worshippers.
I was trying to cold-Turkey a drug habit when I watched a double feature of Hereditary followed immediately by Midsommar. Maybe it was the ultra sensitive nerves in my weak body combined with the waking hallucinations of a nasty opiate withdrawal, but these movies hit different at that moment. I felt every ping of emotional dissonance in this movie and the contrasting darkness of the opening scene with the brighter images of the festival left me haunted. So all in all I enjoyed it on a surface level but also felt a deeper connection to what was happening in my life at that time. What I’m trying to say is I actually liked the movie.
Cold turkey or not. Those are just really great movies. This guy has no patience for anything good. This the type of guy to give fast nd furious and transformers movies 10/10 because they scratch his smooth brain.
@@anthonyflory1063A 2-hour long wickerman that's utterly predictable (with very shallow charicature characters) is a good movie? Just no. BTW, I agree with your point about dopamine fiends who can't sit through a slower non super action packed movie being a common thing, but Midsommar is just bad. Its some style with poor substance. Hereditary is better, but I wouldn never call it great.
I would say the same for all horror movies. Here, let me give you a review of Friday the 13th “They go to a strange camp. They walk around, they look at stuff, talk to each other, and then they die.” - when dude said that I laughed too.
@@JohnnyFromVirginia well yeah, but Friday the 13th is a campy horror movie that alongside other pioneered the slasher genre, it’s not being touted as some art nouveau film with a higher meaning like midsommar is, that’s the difference. That’a why those flicks get to get away with generic plots, because they created them, this one is not good as a campy horror movie and it’s even worse when tried to be seen as a serious one to.
Dani is the antagonist. She sort of goes on the inverse Hero's Journey. Worst case scenario, Dani is guilty of murder after watching her bf get drugged and raped. Best case scenario, Dani is an accomplice to murder.
honestly its just these ''dudes'' that cant accept a happy ending for a female character same how the critical drinker didnt like barbie because its ''sexist''
I must admit my interpretation of this film was that it demonstrated how a cult can break down the mind of a weak and vulnerable person to the point where they kill the person closest to them and smile whilst doing it. As it goes on, more questionable situations occur that the protagonist becomes increasingly accepting of which is the unsettling part. Not a conventional film by any means but interesting for that reason imo.
Unfortunately, as much as that would make at least a bit of sense, that is not what the director had in mind. He openly said that Dani is the hurt protagonist we are supposed to root for and Christian is the villain.
@@haneskuchar3998 fun fact, florence Pugh and the director ari aster had a big differing opinion on the ending; florence believing that its bittersweet due to the her being fully indoctrinated into a cult, and ari aster believing the empowering angle. I think its valid to interpret it in both ways. Sometimes a directors intent turns into something else. First time i saw it i thought the first thing, it was good for the character, she found a family. But a second watch and more thought it became apparent to me that Dani's vulnerability is key to why she's happy at the end, and why it's not a good thing
@@haneskuchar3998 lmao. No. This is so wrong. The movie was attempting to make you sympathise with the twisted insanity of Danny and the cult. He wanted the audience to feel conflicted almost as though they had been indoctrinated by their dogma
@@yertbert1211 I'm only repeating what Aster said. If you wanna tell me that the director was wrong about his own movie, it's of course up to you how you wanna look at it.
@@haneskuchar3998 you mussinterpreted what he said you donkey. You are supposed to root for them but the point it that you are meant to feel conflicted by the moral dilemma. Dumbass
The problem here is that everyone think that the movie purpose is to be scary which is wrong. I think it’s just tried to be weird and unsettling not scary.
the point of dani(?)'s character is that she's the perfect candidate for a cult initiate. Her parents are dead, her only connection left is her awful relationthip with christian, and to top it off she happens to be very agreeable and manipulable
Indeed...that is the horror element. She joins the murderous cult. She becomes the monster. The whole horror of it, like in Wicker Man, is that the crazies win. It may not be for everyone, but the failure to mention even once what the movie is actually trying to do...
Despite missing the point of the film, which is understandable considering how nonsensical it can be at times, this review makes a lot of good points outside of that mistake. So everyone saying this is a bad review because the point is actually about cult manipulation and not female empowerment is wilfully ignoring every other point Drinker made. He is right: the characters have no motivation, they do just walk around and talk to people and then die, the pacing is so slow and honestly frustrating at times and its so dense in details it's hard to watch and understand what's happening which is not the mark of a well-constructed "modern classic." If a film is made to be re-watched in a way where an audience can keep finding new details and new context, then fine (that's a great thing) BUT a first time viewing should still make sense then subsequently deepen from there. 'Sixth Sense' is a decent example of this. I don't believe one should need to watch a film multiple times to understand what the creators were going for. Arty film or not, I think Midsommar got a bit caught up in itself and it suffered, but got away with a lot because the core idea is good and people will forgive just about anything "arty" as long as it has hot people and decent cinematography.
@@jeremyusreevu237 I appreciate when a film has subtext that you can sink your teeth into but your film needs a foundation before you start adding layers Midsommar is supposed to be dense and feel like an acid trip in a way, fine, but no one is really acknowledging that a good concept doesn't always make a good film
I dont think the idea is to be sympatethic with the girl and "empower" her but to show how cults can manipulate people into damaging their most beloved ones.
Kurt Adams he’s essentially the inverse of Quentin reviews but the only thing they have in common is that they’re annoying, insufferable assholes that shout their unspecial political opinions out WAY too much.
Drinker I think you missed the message of the movie, which shows a fragile woman's descent into madness and brainwashing in the face of forces that provide what she's missing; love, support, family and stability.
"Hours of people sitting down to dinner, chanting in a language we don't understand, and doing rituals that are never explained or put into any kind of context" So like visiting my relatives in Louisiana?
Yea, I used to get hopeful with hype like way back when and yes there were occasional let downs, but damn. Nowadays when something gets hype train behind it I get suspicious and almost automatically lower my expectations.
Can we talk about how when a man is rufied into what is essentially a rape scene, it's "omg girl he aint shit, he just a cheater queen" pretty sure it would come off differently in reverse, a truly disgusting double standard
You don't need our consent to raise a topic conversation. But yeah, good point. It isn't about equality, or even equity between the sexes - It's just about which gender gets to be the boot.
There are some unsettling comments. There is nothing empowering about being manipulated. Manipulation, brainwashing and MURDER is not empowering. Seek counseling. I personally hate the movie and I also dislike the setting being based in beautiful Sweden, mostly out of a personal distaste of horror films taking place in European countries, because it’s become so overused, it’s messed up. That and it can easily leave a bad impression and image on the country due to how impressionable people outside of it are, and I personally feel it’s disrespectful.
@@solofilmproduction Yup, and probably more stable weather in Hungary as well. The weather in Sweden during midsommar can often be shit. Not as good, stable, and bright as in the movie, at least. (I'm half Swedish)
"Son, if you resent me, just say it to me, insult me if you need to, I am man enough to take it, you didnt need to insult me for 2 hours with this boring POS" - My dad after watching Midsommar
3 things, 4:42 she’s literally been drugged too, and coerced into this whole ritual thing, hardly an empowerment moment but more of a slip into some sort of insanity of an already traumatised person 6:15 just feels like you’re saying there isn’t any of the usual cliches and tick lists that horror usually has, surely it’s a good thing that it’s not same old same old 7:00 she’s had her whole family killed and been gaslighted all movie, it’s a deeply traumatised character, what do you expect her to be like?
u forget this guy's one consistent thing in his reviews is labeling every female lead as a failure to empower women and some feminist agenda, cuz he can't see women as capable of having deep and complex characters.
@@hardsalami105wrong, the reason why he labels most of the modern female leads as woke failures is because they are exactly that. Furthermore, in this very video he shows scenes containing Ellen Ripley and Sarah Connor, which he considers to be two of the most complex characters in any horror/action movie ever.
@@NingenSucker exactly, he only ever applauds older films for female characters, even when films like this have perfectly fine and complex characters, he either refuses to recognize it or is putting on an act for his sexist audience
I love this movie because by the end, Danni has become a mad villain - her sacrificing her ex and being all smiles is a BAD thing, not empowering! She turns into a brainwashed bad guy. I'm sorry you didn't like the film, but I enjoy your take on it and thank you for the review.
Yes! The actual movie is a bit too hyped, but I love it because of the many people who saw it and thought it was a good place and a good ending. Just shows that anyone could become part of a cult without ever realizing it until its too late. It's kind of fascinating.
@@matildeg.g.4262 why wouldn't u want to live in this cult in midsommar. If you think logically. Dani is far happier in the cult, the cult is environmentally protective, they share in the pain. One may be freaked out by what the cult does but its a more cohesive society. BTW i'm not making the case for cults in general but thats just the logic in the film. Compare that to Dani at the beginning of the film, where after going through something so horrible is left isolated and unsure in a cold and sterile American world. The problem with this review is that its just him bitchinig about female empowerment narratives, seeming to suggest that people love that Dani breaks up with her shitty boyfriend.
@@joeshimwell1269 "Why wouldn't you want to live in the cult in Midsommar?" Seriously??? You would want to live in a cult were they kill anyone who slightly indispose them or just because they need people for their rituals? A cult that knowingly attract strangers to use them as sacrifices? I seriously hope you're not serious, otherwise you need help
I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one that thought that this movie was the most overrated film ever. The eerie mood at the beginning seemed promising but, as always happens in the movies of the last decades, the events and reactions of the characters are completely forced and ridiculous, so my suspension of disbelief always drops to zero. A stupid plot sprinkled with the most respulsive gory scenes, just to amaze the audience the cheapest way possible... Can't stand that people that watch a movie like this and thinks "oh, it's a very deep movie with a lot of hidden symbolism to be discovered".
… Okay, so I’ve never seen Midsommar, but I do know what exactly Dani’s sister did to herself and their parents. And… come on Drinker… “Six months later and she’s still whiny and needy. UUUUGH, get over it already!!” Dude, I probably wouldn’t be over THAT horrid event in six YEARS, let alone six months.
I probably would not have been done mourning the parents but she continues mourning her sister more. She literally murdered their parents. Screw the sister. I would be done mourning her the moment I realized she murdered them in their sleep
I actually liked that the movie is not too formulaic, sometimes Hollywood movies are too templatey, and it often feels bland and annoying. It does have its flaws, but overall it's a decent movie. Btw the real theme that is being explored imo is clinging to someone that doesn't want you, and the subsequent breakup that follows. He is burnt at the end because it's the girl's process of letting go of that person.
@Adolf Hitler's Ghost I have almost purged myself of their influence, porn is a hard one (half-pun intended) and malicious, and my talmudphone still kinda ocupies my time, but inam getting there. Stay strong my brother and never forget; it's always darkest before the dawn.
Not being over grief and trauma after 6 months? People typically take a long time to recover or don't do it at all. There's one guy who's parents were mugged and murdered in front of him as a kid. He deals with his pain as an adult by dressing like a bat to fight crime and supervillains.
I personally loved that the person who we were made to care about the most was the one who became the monster. She is the only one who chose the death of another of her friends, truly becoming one of the cult.
I don't think she became a monster as much as it was stockholm syndrome. She would've been sacrificed after that too. The ending was the opposite of empowerment. It would be like saying the guy screaming in pain as he burned to death was empowering
@@IncredibleGoliath Yeah, even though I personally liked Midsommar, I thought 1973's Wicker Man was the superior telling of a similar story. Wicker Man did more in far less time. Midsommar has no reason to be as long as it is.
Not her husband. I thought at the beginning they were together for like a year and a half. When i found out they were together for over 4 years.... i was like damn. Shit or get off the pot, mate. And how your relationship was going and portrayed, he should have gotten off it a long time ago
I had a completely different outlook watching this movie, i never saw this as some kind of female empowerment message where the main female character grows out of her shortcomings and ends up a better version of herself, Dani was never shown as strong throughout this movie, she started out as weak and dependant and stayed that way, she even loses herself to the insanity of the cult who she believes is her new family, they have succeded in manipulating her and turning her against her boyfriend, who, while he was not best companion he could have been to Dani in her moments of need, did not deserve the horrible fate that upon him. I do agree when it comes to the characters being too stupid to avoid obvious danger, it was fairly easy to predict what kind of shit they had gotten into as soon as the double suicide happened. It wasn't the best movie of 2019 but i found it decent, anyone with a properly functionning brain could tell the ending was not supposed to be a positive one (just like Hereditary's ending) and at worst it could be seen as a boring predictable movie.
See but, I think it's really easy to be sitting here on youtube, never having experienced something like this, thinking that moment should have been the clear queue to leave. First off, the dumbass character who pissed on the tree- he wasn't even there for that scene, so he wasn't going to leave over that. For Dani, and the two British friends who are- they DO want to leave after that, and they try. Dani gets manipulated into staying and the other two get killed. It's really just Christian the bf and Josh who don't freak out, but they're anthropology students, thinking they totally know all about this ceremony, and aren't they kind of bad ass for actually getting to see it. Whether watching the Stupah (however you spell it) makes them want to leave or not, they all face the same problem. The cars, that seem to belong to the two Harga brothers- not the British and Americans, are parked in a field, a distance away on a path through the woods that their Harga "friend" lead them on while they were still kind of tripping on mushrooms. It does seem there's a road, as the Harga allude to taking a truck into town- but we never see that road or that truck. We see the drive in and they're clearly miles from the nearest town, AND it's pretty light out 24/7, they have no cover of darkness to sneak away in. Lastly, they're in a foreign country with only the friends they came with, so they don't want to split up. Leaving would have been hard, and the characters definitely knew that. There's also the fact that none of us walk around expecting to get murdered. It's just one of those things that doesn't seem real, like it always happens to someone else. So, even if you see a ritualistic, assisted suicide take place in front of you- it's still going to be really hard to feel like YOUR life is at risk. After all, these characters see themselves as the temporary guests of a very different, long practiced culture, and they see this tight knit community practicing long held traditions that they, as outsiders don't understand and are not part of. They WERE told about the Harga's beliefs regarding life stages as well, if they were trying to think what risk the Harga might pose to them, they'd probably assume that since they were in the prime of their lives according to Harga ideas, and NOT 72, that they're heads are not on the chopping block. On top of that they've been told BY THEIR FRIENDS that they're visiting for a celebration, they've been looking forward to it for months, they see the overall festive, cheery clothes and music and games. And then there's the fact that the Harga are reassuring them, calmly, in total seriousness- that this is their way of life. There's the fact that Pelle and his brother- their good friends were so excited to bring them there, and they've brought them all this way- none of us wants to let our friends down, or accuse them of something horrible without proof. I think that actually, MOST of us would stay, whether because we were unsure what to think and how to leave, or because risk of danger from such seemingly kind, welcoming people- literally our friends and their families, would not even occur to us. I think that's part of what makes Midsommar so scary.
I know, at the end of the day it's just a movie. But one of the things that really haunted me after watching it was that Pelle and his brother could go out and live normal lives, make friends and be good friends with those people for years, make all those memories, have all those deep talks, be there for people...all the while planning to trick them into coming back to your commune to murder them in horrific ways. Some terrible people DO actually do things like that, but most of us could never. That's what would make it so unbelievable to think that you were in danger, even if your gut was telling you to run.
I really don't think the movie should even be classified as a horror. At most it's a low psychological thriller. Me and several friends who are really bad with actual horror movies watched this no problem.
Idk how someone wouldn't be horrified by the things happening in the movie. It didn't have a dark color palette or any jumpscares. It wasn't *scary*. But it is definitely horrifying.
It's not really misleading though, I think most people would know from the pagan aesthetics that this follows the Wickerman or Witch style of horror. The most misleading "horror" ever was the abysmal Babadook, that should never have been classified as a horror.
Yea, I would consider Hereditary, Midsommar, Suspiria, Lighthouse as "dreader" instead of horror. These don't make me scared but just just induce constant waves of dread and disturb imagery.
That's funny, I'm good with regular horror movies but the movie had me tense the whole way through. I'd say it's a psychological thriller, and the way it handles suspense is totally unique. The way the people act in unison builds tension and mystery against its beautiful and picturesque aesthetic creates a contrast that makes the tension from the cultlike behavior that much more uncomfortable
@Stix N' Stones I feel like he was doing it in a comedic manner too, and if he wasn't, who cares? It's not a non fiction film and he wasn't hurting anyone. I get there's some psychological meaning beyond what's being presented with cults and brainwashing but theres no reason people can't poke fun at it when it's not based off real events. I didn't know Redditors could be so sensitive towards darker humor
@@snort_that_pasta5555imagine saying this when there's no point to where he says himself that this is a joke. You're making that up because you can't stand the Critical Drinker taking criticism, which is ironic asf
I agree but you did like The Menu?!? The Suicide Dinner Party Play, nihilism in it's most vapid form. An exercise in increasing shock value by way of irreverent masochism. That movie sucks
Christian’s only mistake was that he didn’t dump her when he wanted to. Just goes to show you how much of a useless emotion pity is and that sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind.
AnAnomalousSmell he’s not wrong though. As harsh as it sounds. In a situation like that its between dumping her there and then or stringing her along to both their detriments.
I’ve known three people who died like the parents/sister at the beginning of this film. One was a classmate in high school whose bedroom was above her garage. One night she came home, accidentally left the car running in the garage, went upstairs, and collapsed and died from carbon monoxide while brushing her teeth. The other was the bass player in my college band. Years after I had lost touch with him, he and his best friend made a suicide pact and sealed themselves behind a tarp in a hotel room where they suffocated themselves with gas masks pumping in nitrous oxide. The story was a minor national news headline because they left an envelope taped to the tarp with a huge tip for the maid service and a note that said, “Don’t look behind the tarp. We’re dead inside.” Like I said, I had lost touch with him; but one night I was just scrolling my news app and I happened to click a headline about a “bizarre double suicide” and as soon as I clicked it, there he was. The first time I had seen or thought about him in years, and it was by chance in a news article about the strange way he and his friend killed themselves. That was like a month before I saw Midsommar. So the beginning just fucked me up. It was so much more horrifying than a masked killer because I was thinking about the way these people I knew had died.
Dude those guys who disliked 💀fr if you honestly liked the film check ur mental health as fast as possible you might become dangerous. btw the relationship between dani and christian was not even abusive ain't no way killing the dude made absolutelly no sense 💀 plus people in the movie were nothing different than horror movie characters who witness horrible scenes but dicide to stay because of the stupidity in their heads and because the want to study 💀💀💀
@@seabear9530 There are definitely movies I love that critics don't and movies I hate that critics love but I wouldn't say it's a general rule that if critics love a movie I will hate it. I'd say in most circumstances it's the opposite. But me and you probably have different tastes in film.
@@brandonkelleher2651 Is every film critics praise bad? No, of course not. But too many are. I'm pointing out that professional critics are completely unreliable to use to judge a film.
Damn were you wrong about this one mate. I finally watched it yesterday, and it was a very good movie. Films don't need to have a basic Star Wars-like structure of plot and people journey to be good, they have the right to do their own things at their own pace. I really don't get the fuss that people made anbout this movie, in retrospect now. I guess some people need every movies to be very basic ?
I can't find it now at a quick search, but I remember reading before that there is some ABBA fan event in some Swiss village that happens like once every few decades or something, which is fitting since this is supposed to be a festival that happens only once every like 8 decades or something. So, "alt-canon" now: Midsommar is a group of ABBA fans gone wrong?
Bryan Es Wow now I see where all the low life trailer trash bigots that follow trump and serious alt right go to talk about their movie ailments. Yipee. These attitudes create ulcers. And kidney stones. Enjoy your fucking bitterment, sheep cucks.
I completely agree. This movie was actually trash. All the plot and character-induced stupidity just makes it feel too contrived to take seriously whatsoever.
I don't think the movie wanted to make us feel like her boyfriend deserved death, in fact, during the entire movie he is shown being comprehensive and the only times he "cheats" on her, it's not real cheating because he was on drugs. The fact that she makes him killed it's not showed as an empowerment at all (did we watch the same movie?) but it's actually very tragic, you said that she's a stupid and emotionally weak character and you're completely right, in fact people like her are the most likely to be taken by cults (very lame and weak, no family left, no affective bonds). She let the poor guy die because he is the only bond left between her and the cult that gradually imposes itself as a new family (the scene when the girls share the pain is very clear). The movie ends with her, smiling like a crazy person who will spend the rest of his life chained and controlled by a religious cult, where do you see the empowering message in this?
Ahh. Now that makes more sense. If that's what the director was meaning, then fair enough. Because she clearly was sucked right into a very twisted cult.
@@Redrosewitch I hope there would be a sequel where the whole cult, including Dani, get blown to pieces by vengeful family members of either Christian, Josh or Mark. Hell, just have Rambo like character go raid the whole cult and that would make for a satisfying revenge movie. Of course it's just wishful thinking, but it's fun to imagine something like that to happen.
Well, with most Stories and movie you can find and argue for the existence of different messages and themes, and both yours and his take seems to be backed up by the content of the movie so i would say that they both valid in some way.
@Craven Moorehead hawhaw... I... already saw the movie, yes my ass might be shitty but id say it was well worth it, ....draws you in, the soundtrack was amazing, the story , i thought was purposefully predictable, how could it not be, its a horror flick with subtle twists that make you question yourself, i've seen so many movies im rarely surprised at storylines...the last time i was surprised was when Game of Thrones quickly gift wrapped thier shit story with memorable characters and cgi and kicked it out the door, now THAT was something i would be willing to unwatch
Christopher Jakel Nope, there are plenty of people that love the craft of Filmmaking that have been well aware of this movie, and are introducing it to others
Why are you whining that somebody didn't get over their family's death after 6 months when you are still salty about the last jedi being bad after 5 years?
He is not whining that someone didn’t get over family’s death after 6 months, its about she got codependent on chris for everything rather than going to therapy and having healthy dependency and coping mechanism , making the relationship more toxic.
Yeah because people always choose the most rational options like that instead of attaching to the only person they have left in fear of being completely alone. @@sukuna-
@@sukuna-not knowing how to cope with grief doesnt make her a bad charater, it just makes her more realistic. in real life people aren't often going to have the thought process "my whole family just died and i feel responsible!! better make sure i am on my best behaviour"
@@sukuna- So instead of her being manipulated by a cult, you think it would have been better if this movie, a HORROR MOVIE, wrote the main character just…going to therapy?
Hilarious, but I don't think the film was saying that she was empowered to kill her boyfriend. I actually thought the point was that she had become some kind of a sadistic monster, with the power that had been bestowed upon her by the cult, coupled with the trauma she endured at the loss of her family. Not sure her empowerment was the point at the end, but rather, her sadism. She WANTED him to suffer, she wanted to annihilate him...and he didn't deserve it...not even close. The film was visually stunning (you have to give credit where credit is due), and there were some intriguing parts but it did end up being a bit of an incoherent mess in the end.
What a wonderful thing to do...have a jealous and unstable woman get her ex-boyfriend stuffed into Barney Bear, then burned alive! How's that for empowerment!
B/c the woman is killing the man, and the man isn't a PoC, so it's "okay". What a shitty movie and a waste of visuals, it's even worse than Blade Runner 2049, which was another waste of nice visuals.
@@chivalryfutures3666 "its for the gods" oh thankfully they did a lot of explaining about who these gods were and why a sacrifice was necessary. I feel a lot more informed knowing "its for the gods. Great story telling
6:01 … The movie literally explains them, characters, out loud, say exactly what these rituals were. How were you paying so little attention to the movie?
You’re wrong on this one man, I think you have the god-tier mental gymnastics to make even shawshank redemption, the dark knight or the godfather look and sound like bad films, but this movie is not worthy of this level of harshness, it may well be not up there with horror master pieces but is the definition of a decent horror movie.
Naw, it was bad. It had a great concept and idea, which was disturbing but it executed it horribly. Just the entire premise of people not leaving the festival was really stupid writing. Just watched two old people Kermit off a cliff and then get Gallahgered the head in and not leaving was shit. Again, had a great idea but poor landing.
@@randyx007 They had no reason to leave, they were not in any danger, it is clear they were sledgehammered because their custom applied to old people only, and they are social scientists, their life revolves around understanding their culture, you can nitpick some things about this film but they not running away from an unexisting danger (to them, at that time) is not one of them.
@@jdanielortega they didn't really go there to study them either, which is another funny part. They wanted to party then it turns into a sociologist expedition half way through? Like what the f*** is going on? Is this a vacation, because that is how it paints it at the beginning...
