MIG-23 | MACH 2 MISSILE DELIVERY SYSTEM 

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@Ilija Miljković But Mig 25 was faster then Mig 31

@Ilija Miljković They look the same but the 31 is far more advanced with a better radar, more powerful engines and a beefier airframe. But even then in order for her to reach the Black Birds speeds (which she could) the 31 had to literally burn it's engines up, requiring a complete rebuild on landing... That is how mother Russia chase away yankie eagle with titanium bear.

@@madkoala2130 So the legend says. F-15 was built to fight the 25. The fastest record speed for 25 was actually recorded on a broken up 25 in the Middle-East.

@@xxSWxxNINJA no, the mig-31 could NOT reach blackbird speeds. It had to intercept it and fire a missile to close the distance.

hahahaha but the radar ones are pretty darn good though

@@PhlyDaily true

@@PhlyDaily true

@@PhlyDaily phly please can you show your radar controls in next video, my settings went tits up after update and can't get radar to work

@@marekmazurek8459 I use multi-function menu for most of the radar controls other than locking radar and turning it off.

but foxxxxxbatt?

Ok

What about the flanker

@@PhlyDaily I give that one a close second B)))))

But the bison???

Except modern jets are also built for the within visual range fight, the MiG-23 was not, none of the jets of this era were, they thought within visual range was over for good. The Phantom is a perfect example of this on the American side.

@@evangalinsky2499 wrong, immediately after air combat started in vietnam phantoms were being retrofitted with guns and the world saw close air combat was still possible and followed suit

@@modernwarfare21999 Except I'm not wrong because you literally stated exactly what I said. Why did they need to retrofit Phantoms with guns? Because they thought that was over, and quickly realized it wasn't, that's why modern jets are built for the within visual range fight as well, unlike the Phantom. Thank you for further proving my exact point, while trying to discredit me.

@@evangalinsky2499 Things like the f14 and f15 were also developed in the late 60's, and DID incorporate maneuvrability as one of their key points. This is proven by multiple nasa reports and interviews of lead engineers. The mig 23 was also developed in the late 60's, yet competed with the f4 phantom, which was developed in the late 50's. Also, modern jets like the f35, are NOT built for dogfighting. They are multirole stealth missile delivery systems, NOT dogfighters. The f22 was, however less than 200 were made...

@@jonnyj. That timeline difference from 50's to 60's is exactly what I'm referring to, as there definitely was a shift in military doctrine during that time, eventually doing a 360 and reverting back to they ways of old, hence why modern jets are for the most part built for the within visual range fight (with obvious long range ability). But as you pointed out, yes the F-35 was not built for that, and thats because its not built as a fighter primarily but secondarily, it can hang just not for long like dedicated fighters. The 14 may have been an exception to the rule but you cannot deny that during the late 40's and most of the 50's the idea was BVR and that alone, its pretty clear, so I don't know why you're denying it, there are always going to be exceptions to the rules of the time, the 14 may have been built with agility in mind but that one example does not sum up the rest of what was designed during that time especially considering how different the 14 is compared to just about everything else even today. You're cherry-picking examples, instead of looking at the whole picture. the 15 btw is one of those modern jets I was talking about, same with the 16 and 18, that were built with within visual range as a strong focus, lessons learned from the F-4's of Vietnam.

Why acceleration? Shouldn't it help since the drag is minimal?

@@gato_capitalista this is coming from an armchair pilot who’s only experience is war thunder, so take this with a grain of salt. But I’d think that even though a full sweep would reduce drag, it also reduces lift which makes the engine have to work harder especially at low speed meaning lower acceleration than if the engine didn’t have to work as hard.

@@gato_capitalista Full wing sweep means less lift, which means a higher angle of attack for the same amount of lift, which means way more drag.

@@gato_capitalista Swept wings only really reduce wave drag, which happens at transonic and supersonic speeds. But a big source of drag at subsonic speeds is skin drag and induced drag. Skin drag scales with the surface area of an object, which is why subsonic airliners have round noses instead of pointed. Wing sweep on the MiG-23 doesn't really affect surface area, though, so it's not the thing to focus on here. Induced drag is hecka important. All wings produce some amount of drag to go along with the lift they produce. Except when transonic/supersonic, swept wings produce a much lower lift/drag ratio than straight wings. That means whenever the MiG-23 is below Mach 0.8 (roughly the threshold of transonic flight), you want completely straight wings to improve lift efficiency. In zero lift situations (0g ballistic trajectories as opposed to 1g level flight or >1g turns), swept wings might produce a very minor advantage, but most of the time you're at least pulling 1g to maintain level flight, so you'll want straight wings below Mach 0.8

@@gato_capitalista your angle of attack is not optimal resulting in more drag for you to overcome

Yes I thought the same!

Yeah it seems to be a case of just because you can turn that fast doesn't mean you should. It was interesting to see him take off with full swept wings, seems to defeat the purpose of having variable swept wings if they are just going to be locked to full sweep.

Defyn said the exact same thing in his video on the Mig 23.

If the maps and aerial warfare was realistic like in DCS this thing would be a beast

They didn’t nerf them yet?!

Already nerfed

What really ….. damn it is this why I’m having more success with the r3s than with the r13m1s is it cause I try to use it for the r13s

Hehehe

The official trailers are getting better and better

I need the intro song

@@generalkenobi5173 same

It’s not bugged. Gaijin intentionally holds free to play vehicles back so their premiums are more appealing to spend $60. Once the hype dies they return balance. They do this every patch. They build a patch around the item they predict will make the most money at that time and will quite literally shape the game around it.

But the mig 23 sucked irl and i dont want russia to be op

@@WayneGlensky_ yep i grinded the obj 430u just because of that

@@theverminator8048 russia needs Su-25 frogfoot for literal actual balancing of CAS being used against it... Su-25 has maverick equivalents... and other things... which Americans get as early as 8.7 like wtf

Historically, the mig23 was nothing special and missiles of that generation were complete crap in every nation. So, if say it's more historically correct but people want f22 performance and missile tech from a 2nd gen aircraft. Without googling from memory the mid 23 is a high altitude interceptor designed to shoot down nucular equipped bombers, whom were mostly sub sonic. The missiles are not designed to dogfight.

Yeah it's weird because it could carry flares IRL.

@@elliothagner only the versions after j35f the j35d was the version before they added flares to it

Agreed. But It’s not bugged that’s a lie. Gaijin intentionally holds free to play vehicles back so their premiums are more appealing to spend $60. Once the hype dies they return balance. They do this every patch. They build a patch around the item they predict will make the most money at that time and will quite literally shape the game around it.

@@Nicmower but if he turns with the wings like that the whole plane needs to turn, it will act like an airbrake (I dont even know if it's the case just made sense I'm my head)

eh, its phly. Hasn't had to grind a thing in ~4 years

@@Nicmower But at low speeds wings swinged 100% in actually bleed more speed, and make your acceleration worse

@@gato_capitalista Either way the entire plane is turning but also not really. Straight wings are better at using lift to their advantage and cause less drag at low speeds.

Good luck 🍀 👍

Do it dad

@@hanro7430 lol

Might as well just play DCS lol

But not for fox1

They really aren't fire and forget free kills you actually generally have to do a bit of brain work to use them. Especially after this patch where missiles got nerfed and flares and chaff got buffed. Missiles got nerfed enough that I do consciously have to change how and when I fire my AIM-9Js even. People say there's no skill to top tier but there really is. I used to think there wasn't until I learned how tf to play top tier and my KDR skyrocketed.

You even have to forget the plane x)

AIM-7 and R-23 is Semi Active Radar, they're Fox 1 code. Which means they use the radar from the plane to guide them their target. They're not Fire and Forget. The first fire and forget missile Fox-3 code was the AIM-54 Phoenix from the F-14 Tomcat that has an onboard radar inside the missile so they can just be fired and forget.

The MiG-23MLD also have access to more modern weapons like the R-73 Archer short range IR dogfight missile and the R-27 medium range types of missiles in which there are many IR and semiactive homing variants. It was also planned to install helmet mounted displays for the pilots for the R-73s in close range dogfights, but it was saved for to be used on the MiG-29 Fulcrum that replaced the MiG-23.

You got wait some more. Like a lot more

Your wait is over!

It’s not bugged or glitched. Gaijin intentionally holds free to play vehicles back so their premiums are more appealing to spend $60. Once the hype dies they return balance. They do this every patch. They build a patch around the item they predict will make the most money at that time and will quite literally shape the game around it.

@@maurice7433 I guess you are right, maybe I'm just expecting too much from the snail

You just fly away from a f5e, it cant follow

Probably because it was built as an interceptor.

Depends which version of the mig 23

and it actually has really good maneuverability when you unfold your wings, when they are completely folded back it doesnt turn and drains alot of energy, only use when going for max speed. 60 for high speed fighting 45 for medium and slow speed just unfold to 0. helps alot and you can easily outturn f4's

It's not missing any thrust. People are using the engine performance on a testbed and claiming it's the performance of the engine in the airframe, which is flat out wrong.

Yeah, compared to the tomcat the flogger is trash.

Yes

It’s not bugged. Gaijin intentionally holds free to play vehicles back so their premiums are more appealing to spend $60. Once the hype dies they return balance. They do this every patch. They build a patch around the item they predict will make the most money at that time and will quite literally shape the game around it.

@@maurice7433 it is dude, your missiles literally dont work in irst

@@SergeantArchDornan2242 your not getting what I am saying. It’s bugged. But not on accident. It will get fixed when the hype around the f5 dies

I hope it doesnt happen soon

MIG-25 would be garbage. Depending on the source, it either can do only 1100 kph on the deck or mach 1.01, so you're either caught by a MIG-17 or by a F-5. It's got a pitiful Thrust to weight ratio, and it's maneuverability is awful which can range from just 2g to 4G. Oh and it has no guns, good luck.

Wdym

Don't go to phly for meta. He does the exact opposite of meta.

@@setesh1294 by the time he plays it i'll be experienced with it anyway. Wanna see him versing yak38 with it tough

listen to this man!

@@stoiancristianflorin9027 I have literally tanked like 10 shots in the dicker max before I died at one point

If you think the dicker max is survivable, you should try the waffle tractor

It's all fun till someone goes up in a fighter to revenge kill, i do remember playing it what feels like 2 years ago and it was highly enjoyable when played right.

The 23 can easily beat al.ost anything american with the sweep wing used right

Except for the f-5s

I use my F-104S to bomb bases over mach and occasionally get a gun kill lol

@@mexicoj00 Me too, that is when I get the thing in the first place. My lineup is lacking

@@catmanlegions in ground RB it's fun but in air RB it can be fun with friends ... My lineup for ground is stacked so even if I can't get into a plane in usually good

Same it's going to be amazing in ground rb

It’s not bugged. Gaijin intentionally holds free to play vehicles back so their premiums are more appealing to spend $60. Once the hype dies they return balance. They do this every patch. They build a patch around the item they predict will make the most money at that time and will quite literally shape the game around it.

Stalking is bad mkay?

Who doesn't wanna go hunting with some random dude from Internet?

Exactly

wrong plane

Its war thunders way of "balancing"