@@libanzihlalu2715 Relax, Robby will just be a leader, but Miguel is the one who will really be a champion, the series made Robby win so much that Robby's fanboys cried 😂😂😂
I like how Robby started winning once he sees Tory. It’s like Chozen’s lesson to Sam in Season 5. “I was fighting against. Your father was fighting for.” Miguel in this instance was fighting against an obstacle towards Stanford. Robby was fighting for Tory and his promise to stay by her side at the Sekai Taikai.
@@legendseeker6944 Miguel and Robby are equal bro 😂. Miguel had alot on his mind going into this fight with the worry of college and still got two points on him while Robby got determination and more balanced once he saw Tory . But Miguel and Robby had always been each other’s equals .
@@ccl7983 and robby didn’t have a lot on his mind? you miguel fans are hilarious always trying to make up for miguel the dude lost and robby won getting 3 points one after the other and having alot on his mind clearly didn’t affect him to the point he couldn’t fight so your points are horrible
Robbie and Miguel's fight is always so intense because you can't root for one of them, because you know what path stands behind each of them and empathize with both. Unless you're a fanboy, of course.
Robby vs miguel s1: robby was injured physically but mentally well Robby vs hawk s4: Robby was very well physically but mentally not well Robby vs miguel s6: now robby find the balance and focus and was motivated, beating miguel in fight captain fair and square
I can admit I’m a Miguel fan, but I was really happy for Robby in this scene. He’s come a long way since the first season and they both did great. I’m excited for Part 2 which will be a few months from now
Its only fitting that someone who started from Miyagi-Do is the captain of team Miyagi-Do. Robby sure used all of the fighting techniques. but he looked so comfortable using OG Miyagi-Do karate.
The dude is always at the bottom and never given a chance to really shine and be on the top. Even Kreese recognized his potential because the blood of his best student ran through him.
Excelente! O Robby está de parabéns, mandou bem, até porque manteve o seu equilíbrio durante a luta e também tenho que parabenizar o Diaz que mostrou o quão perigoso ele é, mesmo estando desequilibrado conseguiu manter uma luta e quase vencer o Robby que estava equilibrado.... E pessoal, não fiquem chateados, pois vimos aí o quão igualados esses dois são e que qualquer um poderia vencer aí. Agora provavelmente alguém vai me atacar aqui.
Miguel é o melhor adolescente da série quando se trata somente de Combate, Falcão é o mais experiente deles por ter treinado no Presas de águia, Miyagi-do e Cobra Kai, mas o Robby tem como vc mesmo disse o equilíbrio e mereceu vencer. Esses 3 são mt equilibrados e a série já deixou claro que qualquer mínimo detalhe decide a luta quando eles tão lutando
@@miguelsouzadias15 tá doido mano kskksksksks, miguel que é o mais experiente entre eles, ele e o robby estão quase que igualados (miguel um pouco acima ao meu ver) e o falcão tá abaixo dos dois, sempre foi assim.
At s5 alot of people thought robby would win at the miguel vs robby fight cus at the trailer it showed robby kicking miguel with a wall boost And at season 6 trailer miguel was kicking robby but robby won
I don't understand why people are so upset with the result. It would be boring if Miguel never lost for six seasons. If he always won it would deprive us of debating who is the best, and still since Hawk was weakened all the rivalry is limited to two characters, where it was always Miguel's top. Secondly, it was a really good fight that could have gone both ways, so it won't be a flaw on reputation like Hawk's loss to Kenny, when it was a total plot armour.
The reason people are upset is because the writers made it so that only the captain can fight in the finals, which has made every person rooting for Miguel to win in the finals angry since he would not even get a fighting chance in right state of mind in the tournament unless he decides to join cobra Kai or if Robby gets injured.😢
Hawk hasn't really been nerfed he has just become softer, I mean one advantage that cobra kai hawk had compared to miyago do hawk was the fact that he would show no mercy and finish off fights. With Kenny ref sabotaged him and he also held back and with demetri he again didn't finish him off... I mean it's not like he is losing in a straight fight, gotta admit I was really pissed with demitri when he cheated...
I'm a fan of Miguel, and I believe he is "better" than Robby, however, in this fight Robby was much more motivated to win, and that's why he won... The 2 best (in terms of fight) facing each other is very good to see!!
Miguel's motivation: Going to college, earning money for college, the whole future of his life. His words that he had to win above all else. Robby's motivation: He saw his girlfriend. What a lame excuse to justify Miguel's defeat.
No Miguel was not in the right head space how many times has he beaten Bobby and save him from Kenny and his brother and Kenny on finale.he cracked he seemed nervous the whole episode.you could tell after that kick by Bobby and his frantic desperation. He's a very confident fighter,
Exactly!! I'm a of Robby but i agree with you in 100%. Both of them are the best! But Miguel is less motived because he wants to go to Standford. And in this case Robby has Tory as a motivation and himself. I wonder what's happen in the second part when she isn't with him anymore.
Finally, cause Robby has the greatest potential, I hope that in season 6 he will develop it more.He was always the best, but for some reason and due to circumstances, Robby was losing....
I agree. He has trained a lot with all of the senseis and it would be logically storytelling to let him win finally, because now he fights for the right side.
@@BlsckAngel38 Não, no primeiro campeonato o Miguel venceu, na escola o Miguel ganhou e no final só caiu do 2 andar pois, teve compaixão e o Robby "jogou sujo", na quinta temporada o Miguel desceu o sarrafo no Robby e só não jogou o Robby da escada pois, teve compaixão dnv então tá 3x1
many say that Miguel was unfocused and Robby was in absolute balance, but that differentiates a great fighter from the other, the ability to maintain balance in those types of situations.
@@gjjijji what do you mean to make this kick perfect , the actor who is playing robby needs to kick miguel actor really but it will hurt actor miguels
@@MY_VERSUS please don't be stupid, it was edited bad cuz if 3 reason we space between kick and the actors face, the actor had already completed the kick then Miguel actors reacts to it. Also the second frame where we see Miguels back why be zoomed so far out
@@Goatleonaldo please don’t be stupid, I said NOTHING on this comment tread about winning and losing. I talked about kick being poorly edited but ok be dumb
I find it hilarious how Miguel fans will whine about plot armor favoring Robby when the former never lost a fight so far whereas the latter lost two tournaments in a row. So it makes sense for characters like Johnny or Daniel to practice karate at a high level after leaving it for 30 years, but God forbid Robby beats Miguel because he started karate a few weeks after him. Robby deserved the win, period. Another Miguel victory would have been boring, repetitive and predictable. We've seen it a thousand times, let's not fall into redundancy. Some biased fans can't handle Miguel's status as an undefeated fighter being questioned.
Exactly and besides, Robby could be an excellent sensei in the future. Miguel instead, wants other things and it's ok too. Robby has 0 oportunities in life and even with karate i love the way they did justice with his character after all. I hope in the second part maybe he will win this but it will be difficult! I love the way Tory and Robby are conected, i only dislike that Robby didn't go after Tory when they found out her mother is dead😢
A focused robby vs a focused miguel miguel wins all the time....which is why I hope the sekai taikai is a 3 point thing i think it's obvious in a all out fight miguel wins based off season 5
Bro the Miguel fans just didn't want to accept that Robby was always the best. Tanner himself said that if Robby is determine and focused he's unstoppable and Xolo, Mary, Ralph and Jacob agreed based on their response.
@@tahjbrown7471 that is so biased its crazy miguel was better from season 2 to season 5 not talking about this season but saying robby was allways the best is straight up delucional
Eu torço pro Robby, mas tudo indica que isso é uma deixa pro miguel vencer no campeonato, já que seria + "interessante " pra série fazer o lider perder na semi final em um plot contra o inimigo e deixar a responsa pro miguel
@@pedrosilva-dj5ktambos merecem muito, reginal não é um mundial são diferentes o peso é muito maior Miguel ou Robby aiai quem vencer ta bom pra me torço pelo jhony não pelos alunos
@@pedrosilva-dj5kt então, acho o roteiro genial, tudo pra galera pensar que o Robby vai ganhar o sakai, mas não kkkk, aí acontece algo e o Miguel ganha
In my opinion they are equal fighers everytime they faced each other it would go either way.In this fight for example robby was more focused than miguel was (he was also focused) and had more motivation
No technically Robby is better I feel like in this fight they gave Robby this win Miguel hasn't really been training lately he is less motivated but tbh they nerfed tf outta Miguel it's getting annoying
@@lolboy223exactly my thoughts. Even though Robby won in a point match doesn’t mean he would win in a street fight. Miguel wins if it’s a real fight (no point system). Tournament style can always be either way.
@@javondargan3269wym he’s nerfed? He hasn’t lost until this part of the show lmao. Season 2 doesn’t count because he was caught off guard and season 4 he was injured. This very fight is his first fair and square Loss. Y’all just get mad when your favorite loses for once 😂🤷♂️
@@_justlucas Porque tem um monte de acéfalo que tá chorando como se não tivesse uma justificativa. Já é nítido a tempos que em Cobra Kai só ganha quem tiver focado.
Meu amigo, esses fanboys do Miguel são muito hipócritas véi. Agora existe o roteiro, agora existe desculpa do Miguel não estar focado. Beleza seriam desculpas até válidas se não tivessem passado anos tirando sarro de quem dizia que o Robby tinha perdido antes por lutar lesionado ou sem foco nos torneios anteriores. Se Miguel pode perder e desculpa de foco é usada pra explicar derrota dele, o mesmo pode ser feito com Robby. De qualquer forma, vão ter que engolir que o Miguel foi derrotado pelo Robby agora kkkkkk
Isso é comum no roteiro né Lucas? Engraçado que quando a gente dizia que o Robby perdeu ambos os torneios na S1 e S4 por estar lesionado e sem foco eramos feito de piada por não aceitamos a derrota dele. E aqui estamos hoje com essa fanbase em peso do Miguel alegando que ele perdeu por não tá focado. O mundo gira. Agora tu teve que ver seu favorito perder e ser superado indepedente da desculpa que o tal roteiro criou KKKKKKKKKK
@@scruffd0g193because she was going through a lot after losing her mom and then still got kicked to the curb by being told to sit out the tournament like y'all really gonna sit here and pretend you wouldn't have done the same we know tory ain't staying there and that the writers are building up her inevitable redemption arc where she finally finds inner peace and ends up cutting ties with cobra Kai for good we have seen this type of story play out before they have already teases this in the first part with robby saying him and her will win together coming full circle cause that's called intelligent writing
Makes sense with her mon dying and grieving. Don’t think it will stick though wether its to sam or some other event think robby ends up winning it all for her.
no cap even though Miguel got wooped he still a good fighter also sam is a W Gf for telling Miguel everything will be okay that's a real one right there
This season shows Miguel kind and calm but his aggressiveness damn man last fight in season 5 Miguel vs robby that was our Miguel Aggressive Miguel >>> any student 😈
Those two getting along finally plus it's best they both get along for their new sibling coming soon and they might even become Brothers if Johnny proposes to Carmen they both have two wins it's tied they both are skilled fighters no doubt about that they got a reason to fight now for Sam and Tory to make amends
Mano essa luta foi a melhor deles ate agora, ambos com motivações pessoais e querendo o resultado a todo custo, com foco no objetivo e postura centrada, isso sim é a essência do karate.
Why are Miguel fans crying. Hawk fans accepted kennys win against hawk. Robby fans accepted his lose against Miguel in season 5. Miguel fans need to understand that being a sore loser is much worse than losing itself
@@Dinetioneditz123stop lying, go to the comments section under that season 5 fight and everyone is glazing Miguel bruh. Robby fans got used to losing, and hawk fans also. Miguel fans can't even accept other characters winning. Y'all make the show unwatchable. The show is called cobra kai , Miguel Kai
Even going back to season 1, the only thing that has ever held Robby back was himself. When he is balanced and in the right headspace he is just as good as Miguel if not better
Miguel will probably win the sekai taekai because Robby is the captain which means he will fight the new guy first and will probably lose and then Miguel faces the new guy in the final and wins
No the captains are the ones who fight in the finals. So if miyagi do makes it to the finals, it’s robby who fights. But I do think miguel will somehow be the one to beat kwon
Eles não aceitam porque essa fanbase do Miguel é formada em sua grande maioria por crianças egoístas que queriam que ele continuasse sendo o imbatível e nunca perdesse. Se dependesse dessa fanbase do Miguel o Robby nunca ganharia nada e sempre seria o segundo lugar.
Para aqueles que estão dizendo que agora o Robby é mais forte que o Miguel, uma coisa: OS DOIS ESTÃO NO MESMO NÍVEL Tanto um quanto o outro estão no ápice do seu treinamento e a única forma de um superar o outro é por um treinamento muito mais árduo e trabalhoso que demoraria muito mais tempo. A galera fica falando que um está mais forte que o outro só por essa luta, mas sinceramente, é bem claro que os dois na verdade estão muito equilibrados. O Miguel não estava lutando por alguém, ele só estava pensando em passar em Stanford, já o Robby só ganhou essa luta porque a Tory tinha chegado e começou a lutar por ela. A diferença do resultado da luta de um para o outro só se dá pelas motivações que cada um tem. Eles são como Daniel e Johnny que lutaram na 4 temporada e o resultado empatou (assim como na 5 temporada o Johnny ficou motivado quando viu a foto do ultrassom do bebê dele)
Me gustó que robby le haya ganado a Migue y mas cuando puso su mente en blanco me hizo recordar la primera temporada cuando robby aclaró su mente para hacer la patada doblé con una sola mano .
If we comparing at their best, Robby is the better fighter this season because at first he wasn’t focused that’s why Miguel score two points so easily. Once he see Tory, he started winning. But this is just part 1, they might fight in part 2 and 3
@@lucasssdrum Mas o Robby vai ganhar. Não deram todo aquele trauma dele ser sempre o “segundo” a toa. Pra encerrar a história do Robby só ele sendo campeão agora
Miguel was actually focused to the point where he landed 2 points whilst Robby was actually unfocused. Miguel lost 3-2 becuz he got arrogant whilst Robby became more calm, balanced & focused
I rewatch this a lot cuz I like how Miguel destroys Robby at first. Miguel is the best fighter out of everyone. Robby is going to get injured and Miguel will triumph. Miguel vs Axel will definitely be dope too.
Robby finally beat Miguel. This time it's fair and square and Robby didn't need Miguel to show mercy for it to happen. It was all clean and obvious. I can't think of any excuses for Miguel's loss. But this just means the fight can go either way, hence proving Johnny's statement in the last season.
I honestly think the two boys will always be equal and it will be a hit or miss each season, one lad might be better than the other one season so let’s say Robby in season 4, Miguel in season 5, it’ll always just be a hit or miss.
fora que provavelmente só deram essa vitoria pro robby pra darem destaque pro miguel na final do tornei, kwon vai macetar o robby e a responsa vai ficar pro miguel, pode anotar
They were both unbalanced. The two fight for different reasons. And the two of them were thinking about that reason while fighting. So no, they are both the same.
Todo mundo sabe que o Miguel é o melhor até pq ele é o protagonista né mas nem o melhor lutador ganha todas as lutas,então mesmo se não fosse roteiro teria como sim Robby ou outra pessoa ganhar dele
A melhor parte dessa luta é que a vitória de qualquer um dos 2 era merecida e foi justo o Robby vencer, até pq empatou o placar de lutas entre os dois, o que deve ser decidido provavelmente no torneio mundial também foi interessante pq serviu pra mostrar o porque os 2 são os melhores lutadores jovens da série
No es que Robby mejoró cuando vio a Tory, es que Robby no podía pelear bien mientras seguía pensando en su ausencia, para ganarle a Miguel tenia que centrarse en la pelea y por eso una vez que llegó Tory pudo hacer lo que mejor sabe hacer... Ya viendo todo esto quedó claro lo que muchos no nos quisimos dar cuenta, entender que Robby para nada se queda atras contra Miguel, ahora son como hermanos pero la rivalidad sigue intacta
Franchement les gars qui sont pas content que robby gagne, faut arreter. Le personnage de robby meritait sa victoire, et le combat était plus équilibré étant donner n'étaient pas prit de colère tous les 2.
@@HAWBBYCKforam 15 episódios, eles já terminaram as gravações. Lembre-se que nesses dois anos, ocorreu a grave dos roteiristas, que atrasou muitas séries, esse foi uma delas.
bro god can we ever get a break without yall fighting that who one like damn they aint actually fighting they just fighting for the captain is all plus miguel wins all the time and robby never won and we all know that they both have alot on they're mind that they are fighting for tbh robby was losing bc he was worried about tory and havent talk to him for like a day or two and miguel was getting in to much bc he wanted to improve himself that he could win in the tournament bc he needed the money for the college like godly we already know if they had everything settled the fight would been longer atleast
Qué bien hechas están las coreografías, Miguel alza la rodilla 2 ó 3 veces seguidas para una patada frontal pero se arrepiente al ver los reflejos del oponente, me pasó mil veces, el kumite es tal cual así. Hay algo de fantasía pero es bastante fiel a la realidad del karate.
Pra quem ta achando que robby e melhor, não ele não e, miguel tava desesperado pela vitoria, robby tmb mais assim que tory chegou ele se concentrou totalmente, ele teve base pra conseguir lutar tranquilo, miguel não teve base nenhuma
Forçado foi o Miguel quando venceu o Kyler na Casa dos Larusso. O Cara tinha acabado de sair da cadeira de rodas, Mal conseguia executar um chute, apanhou a luta inteira (Inclusive Tomando golpes nas costas), e de repente vence a luta sem nenhum esforço. E o Robby por vencer uma luta justa é Forçado?
@@henriqueandrade4380 oxx aquilo foi roteiro até eu acho, e sim e forçado sim cara os dois foram forçado não e só pq um foi e disseram ND que esse n vai ser forçado, o Robby era pra ter perdido mermo, plmds, e luta Miguel tava desesperado por causa da faculdade, e Robby tmb tava desesperado até a tory chegar aí ele encontrou o equilíbrio e ganhou sendo que foi forçado, e a luta do Miguel vs kyler tmb foi forçado já que Miguel lutou bem do ND por uma motivação, kyler era claramente mais forte mais subestimou e perdeu
@@henriqueandrade4380 Você gosta de argumentar né? Vamos lá.: 1° Robby é MUITO mais novo que Miguel no karatê, então nada mais justo que o mesmo seja o 2° lugar (ainda tem Falcão). 2° Miguel ganhou os regionais pra Robby e agora o Robby vai ganhar o mundial? ????? Não faz sentido nenhum, como o cara ganha 2 regionais e perde o mundial pra Robby? 3° Miguel é mais experiente do que o o Robby, além de ter treinado tanto o método do punho quanto o miyagi do.
It's just my personal opinion, but Miguel is still better, it's just that he was too confident and he wanted to beat him too much. He was trying too hard to beat Robby even though Robby was more motivated than him.
Mano, para mim a luta no geral teve um roteiro super mal escrito,nunca que o Miguel fazia dois pontos contra Robby sem dificuldade, e nunca que o Robby empataria com Miguel faltando dois pontos e só fica pior quando ele ganha, ent pra mim a luta teve um roteiro ridículo.