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Miitopia - Fast/Easy EXP Grinding Spots & Farming Methods 

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This is how I farmed EXP during my playthrough, do you have other good tips & tricks to gain EXP? Make sure to post it in the comments!
*Vampire Snurp Farm Demonstration:
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@wyalex019
@wyalex019 7 лет назад
For people who are starting out or have level 1-5 people, go to the cave in Greenhorne
@TheIcedPenguin
@TheIcedPenguin 7 лет назад
Where?
@TheIcedPenguin
@TheIcedPenguin 7 лет назад
I played the game and finished the game and I didn’t see a cave in Greenhorne.
@Chillwave6
@Chillwave6 6 лет назад
Junubugs The Beast WELLLLLP "Riverdeep Cavern" and you have to fight through it, surrounded by Banshees, in order to fight the Imp Cheery Granny.
@jarriel088
@jarriel088 6 лет назад
@@TheIcedPenguin Riverdeep cavern.
@swagmudkip2065
@swagmudkip2065 3 года назад
The nightmare tower is good too
@cristianooliveira1723
@cristianooliveira1723 7 лет назад
Just a tip on the Snurp thing, If you sprinkle the hyper sprinkles on your units, they will do 3 damage on rare and very rare snurps. It will take 2 hits like this to kill rare snurps and 5 to kill a very rare snurp. If you have a few relationship interactions, you can kill one Very rare snurp in one turn for 20,000 Exp!
@TheIcedPenguin
@TheIcedPenguin 7 лет назад
Or just get a the vampire class job and they have to learn curse so when a vampire gets hit by a very rare snurp or rare snurp it does half damage of what they hit you.
@P_araps
@P_araps 7 лет назад
But then again, they could just disappear.
@TheIcedPenguin
@TheIcedPenguin 7 лет назад
IcyThaCreamDog Also put hyper on all of them and put shield on the 2 people that are not vampire and put someone in the safe spot so it hits the vampire more.
@tapwater9435
@tapwater9435 5 лет назад
Dude! You’re awesome! Thanks for the tip
@diarrheacheese
@diarrheacheese 5 лет назад
Whaaaaaat!
@lazybones8962
@lazybones8962 3 года назад
Huge tip: the vampire's curse ability let's you basically one shot a very rare snurp.
@cyanide4211
@cyanide4211 3 года назад
🙏 ☺️thank you
@teamawesomeness7137
@teamawesomeness7137 2 года назад
But very rare snurps always vanish and never attack
@Cicine59
@Cicine59 2 года назад
@@teamawesomeness7137 sprinkle your characters
@UltimateTheZekrom
@UltimateTheZekrom 3 года назад
oh god.. my chars always get sick ALSO WHOS HYPED FOR THE SWITCH PORT? i cant heccin wait! :D
@commissionswampert
@commissionswampert 3 года назад
One day left
@benbretz892
@benbretz892 3 года назад
@@commissionswampert we already got it and it’s safe to report that it’s even better than the original
@frogchamp286
@frogchamp286 3 года назад
i will say it isnt a port, its a remaster
@bmoney1227
@bmoney1227 6 лет назад
For the Rare and V. Rare Snurps use the Hyper Spinkles
@kerryvanauken3419
@kerryvanauken3419 5 лет назад
Agreed
@shinyminunthetheatregeek2036
@shinyminunthetheatregeek2036 5 лет назад
That doesn't always work. If you have a mage on the team explosion is very useful.
@ClepticTheIdiot
@ClepticTheIdiot 4 года назад
And vampire to since if they have curse they will do half the damage they did
@ChristopherWilliams-jb7jq
@ChristopherWilliams-jb7jq 4 года назад
Yeah but they can run so hyper is a good idea but it might be worthless
@ChristopherWilliams-jb7jq
@ChristopherWilliams-jb7jq 4 года назад
I suggest having a mage and have them get giga explosion
@xernexx9723
@xernexx9723 5 лет назад
It will only do 1 damage to the rare snurps no matter how strong the attack is. *Does 3 damage*
@Erupizu
@Erupizu 4 года назад
That’s where critical hits come in play
@JrfrsdCereal
@JrfrsdCereal 4 года назад
And the team attacks
@casanuvawithaidslovesgroudon
@casanuvawithaidslovesgroudon 4 года назад
I can do *6* DAMAGE
@swagmudkip2065
@swagmudkip2065 3 года назад
Vampires: Are you challenging me?
@sansibit4706
@sansibit4706 3 года назад
lmao “cocaine powder”
@swagmudkip2065
@swagmudkip2065 4 года назад
Btw bring a vampire to the snurp hunt. Why? CURSE. Curse does half the damage dealt to the mii. Rare snurps only have 12 health. They usually do like 50 something damage. So if the are attacked the attacker is DEAD.
@thepikazapper0522
@thepikazapper0522 7 лет назад
The dark lord was easy af
@Chillwave6
@Chillwave6 7 лет назад
The Dark Lord? Not the Darkest? Yeah.
@thepikazapper0522
@thepikazapper0522 7 лет назад
Both were rather easy, but on the darker lord my team was really underlevel
@celestixal
@celestixal 7 лет назад
I was like nòooooooooooooooooooooooooo we ain't gonna do dis battle with the dark lord cos we were all dead but me and my bestie were relation level 45 so we rose from the dead kinda and I won
@EmeraldOnSwitch
@EmeraldOnSwitch 6 лет назад
We need updated dialogue
@EmeraldOnSwitch
@EmeraldOnSwitch 6 лет назад
Most characters still talk abour the dark lord
@danzemanatee
@danzemanatee 6 лет назад
In the demo the best grinding spot is Riverdeep Cavern
@mm-gy5ir
@mm-gy5ir 6 лет назад
Yep
@Musica-fj9uw
@Musica-fj9uw 5 лет назад
Yeah
@kirbygod2790
@kirbygod2790 5 лет назад
Its a great place to grind relation ship levels too if your a warrior
@shinyminunthetheatregeek2036
@shinyminunthetheatregeek2036 5 лет назад
I went there all the time in the demo. Over. And over... And over...
@pokefan3030
@pokefan3030 4 года назад
I got my characters to level 20 and got Max HP and MP sprinkles
@plohka1141
@plohka1141 5 лет назад
For the rare snurps, try using hyper sprinkles. You will do 3 damage instead of 1.
@eeped
@eeped 4 года назад
If you have high level persons, some attacks does also 3.
@utimate_luk5470
@utimate_luk5470 2 года назад
I always do 3 damage
@allingbrodniak8819
@allingbrodniak8819 3 года назад
I don't know if you found it out already but the best money grinding spot is in Galados Isle in Wetland Marsh, with 2 encounters the first being 1 Pufferpole, 1 Snapperpole, and 2 Twergulls, with the second encounter being on the Gold path at the crossroads, this will be a 50/50 chance between two spawns, which is either a Lion Snail or a Rich Snurp (20,000 Gold)
@aidenhoggart2243
@aidenhoggart2243 3 года назад
For anyone who is grinding in Krakatoa the spot with the chest in karcaton has a 10% chance to encounter a rare snurp which gives 3000 exp
@zirinblossom
@zirinblossom 3 года назад
Thank you
@aidenhoggart2243
@aidenhoggart2243 3 года назад
Your welcome 🙃
@speakycreeperbd820
@speakycreeperbd820 6 лет назад
There are 251 enemies in Miitopia and the last enemy in the monsters book is the Dark Sun
@eeped
@eeped 4 года назад
He is ez to kill.
@eeped
@eeped 4 года назад
Yes, he is. Best team: lvl 50 cat, lvl 50 mage, lvl 50 imp, ans lvl 50 scienist. If you have this team, then its really ez. You can also use vampire, and put cat away. But, you need to control the cat/vampire. Note: I noticed that you can change the imp/scientist for a cleric, they are good to.
@eeped
@eeped 3 года назад
Me 100
@Blackaj53
@Blackaj53 3 года назад
@@eeped dark sun is difficult no matter the team you use
@eeped
@eeped 3 года назад
Nope. Just accept the fact that I always kill him. I only died once to him, and that was because I was trolling, and I went with my noob team to him. I even did the tower of dread 20 times.
@ilu-icey
@ilu-icey 7 лет назад
I have another way to get exp... It happens to be the level just before the boss battle which will give you the elf class. 4 battles, with one of them (the third), giving you around 10 000 bonus exp, for one of your characters. Just be warned, it's better to have high lvl or relations with some of your characters in your team...
@celestixal
@celestixal 7 лет назад
I do these are the average levels for my team yours can be different
@davidnguyen8939
@davidnguyen8939 6 лет назад
Hi, I’m don’t know if you’ll reply but which boss is it? The darker lord? Becuz I’m stuck at that
@jarriel088
@jarriel088 6 лет назад
@@davidnguyen8939 It's after the darker lord
@da_musical_sof931
@da_musical_sof931 6 лет назад
I did it with my level 20 team, and the first hit from one enemy almost 1 hit killed my healer
@marx67
@marx67 4 года назад
Da_musical _Sof HOW
@ravedjhotgarbageedition492
@ravedjhotgarbageedition492 3 года назад
Who is here for the switch version?
@AlexSpy3DS
@AlexSpy3DS 3 года назад
Me
@noticical3245
@noticical3245 6 лет назад
Thank you for this! I need to grind for the Dark Sun and the Tower of Dread.
@olly_lmao
@olly_lmao 5 лет назад
Same, currently grinding two lvl 49s, a lvl 46 and a level 34.
@eeped
@eeped 4 года назад
Mmmh, i gat 4 level 50’s
@endlessdreaming328
@endlessdreaming328 3 года назад
I killed the Dark Sun and beat the Tower of Dread in one try and in less than one month of gameplay. (used lvl 50 mc that’s a princess, lvl 50 cat, lvl 50 tank, and lvl 50 flower all with legendary gear)
@weirdmansamuraioflegend1238
@weirdmansamuraioflegend1238 3 года назад
@@endlessdreaming328 ya I doubt dat
@luna-ev6sv
@luna-ev6sv 3 года назад
Omfg same 😭
@eeped
@eeped 3 года назад
I defeated the tower of dread with only 2 people. Feeling Good. (Duo: Level 50 cat & level 50 mage)
@dabomb3221
@dabomb3221 4 года назад
I noticed you had 99 relationship levels with one of your teammates. What is the best way to grind relationship levels in Miitopia?
@certifiedidiocracy8036
@certifiedidiocracy8036 4 года назад
Grind in riverdeep cavern every day for a year before you get the full game, that's how I started the full game with all my miis having high relationship levels, spoilers for post game if you press read more still stuck on ToD apex, it is insanely hard
@AuraPhotonReality
@AuraPhotonReality 3 года назад
I have a good way but it requires patience, timing, and good memory ( memorising speed ) NOTE: ONLY FOR MC FRIENDSHIP GRIDNING ( Main Character grinding ) So find a level where there are a bunch of enemies, I recommend the level with the jade butterflies. MAKE SURE TO NOT HAVE ELF OR VAMPIRE IN THIS ( and make sure it's a good level ) Set yourself as a supportish type class ( a support mover user ), I highly recommend Scientist for cure.exe as it heals HP and MP. So enter the battle with you and the person you want to grind up. Then keep spamming the support move on them but with cure.exe use it on yourself when low on MP. AFTER YOU USE IT, Move the teammate to the safe spot, wait for there turn, and take them out. Let the enemies damage you - if you are stronger than them, they will barley damage you. NOW, your goal is to NOT kill them. So let them damage you but I recommend doing this with like higher friendships. The Warning or Concern will help give friendship. IF you level during battle you get healed so that helps restore your hp.
@spencerreidswife
@spencerreidswife 3 года назад
some great ways i use to grind relationships are: - using game tickets for the jolly jaunt tickets, this can increase friendship a lot depending on how good the ticket is. every time you enter an inn, check the wheel and if it's good rates, spin the wheel, don't spin on ones with small percentages for the tickets - room the two miis you want to be close together so every time you enter an inn they'll interact - (if it's your main character) use skills that can boost friendship. one i reccommend is high tea for the princess class, it regenerates a lot of mp and boosts friendship levels - there's a higher chance of miis becoming close with kind miis because they do a lot of things for them, (for example, kind miis will donate items like mp candy or hp bananas, take hits for them, and other things) so i reccommend you change the personality to kind! hope this helps!!
@lord_berkut2426
@lord_berkut2426 3 года назад
@@spencerreidswife I spammed Playful antics on it as you can use it with full mp on both party members and it takes no mp
@cocostar319
@cocostar319 2 года назад
I beat the darkest lord with relative ease and thought I was well prepared for post game I was very wrong
@matthewwoods1032
@matthewwoods1032 6 лет назад
How do you only have half your team yet you’ve beaten the game 7:33
@celettucelondonburger2025
@celettucelondonburger2025 6 лет назад
Matthew Woods I wanted to know that too!
@jarriel088
@jarriel088 6 лет назад
They are probably in the Villa. (Unlocked after beating Darker lord)
@matthewwoods1032
@matthewwoods1032 6 лет назад
Jarriel08 oh didn’t think about that lol And I know what the villa is I beat the game
@eeped
@eeped 4 года назад
You can delete caracters.
@yaboihuey5298
@yaboihuey5298 3 года назад
Boulders.
@adensmigovsky3788
@adensmigovsky3788 4 года назад
I'm doing this for the Darker lord lol
@hazelstoriesva1047
@hazelstoriesva1047 4 года назад
I’m doing this for the DARKER lord :)
@SodiumNuke
@SodiumNuke 2 года назад
Wanna farm a job fast? Let’s take vampire for example: Go to the snurp and gold area in the other world and choose the snurp path, play as a vampire and try to find rare snurps in that area. Level up fast! If you want to get better gear faster, finish a traveller hub quest and invite them to your team, then go into the catalog and purchase the gear you want! Hope this helps!
@y.9645
@y.9645 2 года назад
What other world are you talking about???
@SodiumNuke
@SodiumNuke 2 года назад
@@y.9645 the otherworld where the skyscraper is, it’s the place where you face the darker lord
@kaycee7738
@kaycee7738 Год назад
Do you have to change job to vampire or just a teammate vampire
@SodiumNuke
@SodiumNuke Год назад
@@kaycee7738 any option will do!
@ENA_Lia
@ENA_Lia 3 года назад
Does anyone have that 1 really weak member that still somehow survives?
@mewocore
@mewocore 3 года назад
yep... and it always ends up with said weak member being protected by every strong member on the team to the point they all end up dead.
@ENA_Lia
@ENA_Lia 3 года назад
@@mewocore The only thing I hate about good relationships is how they sacrifice, such as.. there will be a warrior and a flower on my gang, the enemy is charging up a F A T A L blow, and then the enemy swings and then the game says: *F I R S T A S S I S T!!!1!!1!!1!* And then next thing you know, my warrior takes the hit. He dies. Then my Thief sacrifices. He dies. And then, same with my mage.
@yaboihuey5298
@yaboihuey5298 3 года назад
@@ENA_Lia and then the one left.. The one you were just bringing along because you changed their job and wanted them to lvl up
@ENA_Lia
@ENA_Lia 3 года назад
@@yaboihuey5298 My piece of advice?? *R I G H T E O U S A N G E R*
@yaboihuey5298
@yaboihuey5298 3 года назад
@@ENA_Lia only takes out one enemy and misses 65% of the time
@JSG_Reactoria
@JSG_Reactoria Год назад
Currently trying to 100% my main switch savefile, and in that I have to get my main Mii to Level 50 in all jobs so this video really helped me out, thank you. :)
@damonfryman6451
@damonfryman6451 5 лет назад
in my game in my first run of Dark lord i did not even FARM AT ALL and i beat him to me it was end but now im off FIGHT the darker lord no demo i got it by buying it from my mom its real fun to me :D
@eeped
@eeped 3 года назад
Bruh, I have vampire, but my defense and my armour is to good, so i get 1 damage, -_-
@ernestaskriunas6021
@ernestaskriunas6021 6 лет назад
when i faced the dark lord, I killed him my First try
@bgaming2297
@bgaming2297 6 лет назад
Ernestas Kriunas Pretty sure a majority of people did. You're not special.
@damonfryman6451
@damonfryman6451 5 лет назад
same thing but i had to use healing i think i did fine don't send hate to me plz!
@ClepticTheIdiot
@ClepticTheIdiot 4 года назад
Damon Fryman everybody has to heal at one point
@eeped
@eeped 4 года назад
Same, it was so ez.
@eeped
@eeped 3 года назад
Me to, It was so easy.
@DanaTheNintendoLoverGirl2011
I Love That You Have Lucina On Your Team! 💙🦋💙
@yourlocalegenderfluidgamer1772
@yourlocalegenderfluidgamer1772 2 года назад
I neat miitopia in 3 days and didn't die alot
@determinedsans4707
@determinedsans4707 6 лет назад
I cant defeat darker lord aishi... Too hard... I also dont get this cheat
@dzelkva5489
@dzelkva5489 4 года назад
aw i was hoping for 15,000 exp per battle :/
@frogchamp286
@frogchamp286 3 года назад
why would that happen
@Marcusverse
@Marcusverse 5 лет назад
My way: Be cool and use a save editor
@ClepticTheIdiot
@ClepticTheIdiot 4 года назад
More like cheat
@swagmudkip2065
@swagmudkip2065 4 года назад
How do i do that? I want all my miis to have max gear so when i encounter bosses they will be like: " This beautiful face is awsome. And im strong so I can kill you- *sees level 50s with max gear* And my miis will say: You know the rules. Its time to die.
@DJAZURE105
@DJAZURE105 3 года назад
😎
@blackclover3360
@blackclover3360 3 года назад
Literally me with citra:
@regrubmaH
@regrubmaH 7 лет назад
So good 👍👌👌
@JAProductions494
@JAProductions494 4 года назад
What’s the best place to grind if you’re trying to get to L50
@ivy.person
@ivy.person 4 года назад
The wheel
@AnIdiotOnYT
@AnIdiotOnYT Год назад
Also unexplored galapgos (the level before the boss) with bonuses you'll get 69000+ exp every time you play it FOr bonuses you must be below the required average of PArty level (2 of level 50 and 2 of level 1 to 24)
@Blackaj53
@Blackaj53 3 года назад
Does this method work on the switch port?
@y.9645
@y.9645 2 года назад
Yes
@benbretz892
@benbretz892 3 года назад
I really enjoy the tips and tricks, thank you!
@ChristopherWilliams-jb7jq
@ChristopherWilliams-jb7jq 4 года назад
My luck was insane with the snurps I had two big rare snurps and two rich snurps
@SkellyG444
@SkellyG444 7 лет назад
Get snurped
@jokejfjwkr
@jokejfjwkr 3 года назад
is there any place better for after the dark lord because karkaton just gives no exp
@maturemousepads.com_
@maturemousepads.com_ Год назад
The snurp thing in otherworld
@kindsteel5
@kindsteel5 3 года назад
I found a bad fandom member.
@snapppyturtle4412
@snapppyturtle4412 4 года назад
Omg thank you so much for this ive just beat game and now need xp but thos really helps now maybe i can get lvl 50 with my princess also whats the best job in your oppinion?
@ilyssabedreaming4052
@ilyssabedreaming4052 4 года назад
Depends for the snurps one the princess is perfect. They can do regal dance which will sometimes prevent the snurps from leaving.
@Chillwave6
@Chillwave6 7 лет назад
S-Support Lucina.
@Deimos_PeanutFlavour
@Deimos_PeanutFlavour 6 лет назад
Chill T YEEEEEE
@austinthomson2839
@austinthomson2839 2 года назад
I got it 1 v.RARE 2 RARE 7 NOMOL
@kevrea22
@kevrea22 3 года назад
What is the max level caracter
@yaboihuey5298
@yaboihuey5298 3 года назад
Max lvl is 50
@NoodlesTheSquishy
@NoodlesTheSquishy 3 года назад
I use riverdeep cavern on demo version of miitopia
@matthewdiaz1678
@matthewdiaz1678 3 года назад
Same I got my party to lv 20 before the game was released
@NoodlesTheSquishy
@NoodlesTheSquishy 3 года назад
@@matthewdiaz1678 mine got to lvl 25
@matthewdiaz1678
@matthewdiaz1678 3 года назад
Dam bro. I've already beaten the game like 4 days after it came out loo
@politelydecline
@politelydecline 3 года назад
omg thanks i need to level up my miis for the darker lord and have changed my main character from a cat to a vampire so i need to level up him and the others I CANT THANK YOU ENOUGH :DDD
@comemonster7528
@comemonster7528 3 года назад
Me: dark lord's are ez Hell dogs: hello Me: *what the actual fu-*
@TheGrassySceptile
@TheGrassySceptile 6 лет назад
What about low levels?
@jarriel088
@jarriel088 6 лет назад
Riverdeep cave. (In greenhorne)
@kittyboi9
@kittyboi9 5 лет назад
Are yo able to pull an animal crossing on new lumos?
@shinyminunthetheatregeek2036
@shinyminunthetheatregeek2036 5 лет назад
What is that?
@mrepicgamer42o87
@mrepicgamer42o87 3 года назад
what were you supposed to grind?
@awesomenoobman6587
@awesomenoobman6587 3 года назад
Does the refresh strat work for wanting gear as well?
@casanuvawithaidslovesgroudon
@casanuvawithaidslovesgroudon 4 года назад
For me treasure overworld can farm,aliens are piece of cake kills
@missingtextureqz6257
@missingtextureqz6257 3 года назад
I got 8 rare snurps in the other world 2 minutes after I watched this, thanks!
@missingtextureqz6257
@missingtextureqz6257 3 года назад
The eight turned into 2
@crunchycakegaming1507
@crunchycakegaming1507 3 года назад
you hit for 3 because buffed moves for some reason have a base minimum damage of 3 instead of 2 for some reason
@IceAddictedBall
@IceAddictedBall 3 года назад
Could you seek for one that will help new players get levels? I'm new at the gamę and i got stuck at the golem boss
@thomaslocaltwat81
@thomaslocaltwat81 3 года назад
If you still need help, banshee cave is s good spot.
@asterlovesfrogs
@asterlovesfrogs 3 года назад
FIIIIIINALLY!!! SOMEONE I CAN ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND!
@Cicine59
@Cicine59 2 года назад
Thanks!
@Andrew-qh3by
@Andrew-qh3by 3 года назад
A few years later and I decide I wanted to take on this game with only one person in the party excluding forced companions...
@yaboihuey5298
@yaboihuey5298 3 года назад
@@marxgalacticambition7023 *Thank god those dudes aren’t mandatory enemies before postgame*
@progsogs9858
@progsogs9858 3 года назад
ah i see u have a crush on lucina
@Dink_Lover
@Dink_Lover 3 года назад
Hi
@genshinimpact_sucks4578
@genshinimpact_sucks4578 3 года назад
who tf is lucina?
@SasukeUchiha-tu4ei
@SasukeUchiha-tu4ei 5 лет назад
i subd just coz of of the flower
@Aphroditzie
@Aphroditzie 3 года назад
The second area is the one I used for grinding before the second final boss
@AmillyReal
@AmillyReal 4 года назад
I also used that :D
@gachatengo238
@gachatengo238 4 года назад
This reminds me of the European version ahaha
@genshinimpact_sucks4578
@genshinimpact_sucks4578 3 года назад
You play Exos Cheesy Heroes ahaha
@MrH9919333
@MrH9919333 3 года назад
i need how to grind levels for switch
@kyon9898
@kyon9898 3 года назад
I started Miitopia on Friday and beat the main story with a one Level 40, one level 30 and the rest high Level 20s, it isn't easy grinding but you'll find spots. You just have to trust your senses when you find a decent spot to grind.
@TS0D
@TS0D 3 года назад
Y u have 5 peol
@Karen-n5o1u
@Karen-n5o1u 6 лет назад
Darker lord isn’t the final boss :P
@yuditheinari8284
@yuditheinari8284 5 лет назад
For the main adventure
@shinyminunthetheatregeek2036
@shinyminunthetheatregeek2036 5 лет назад
Dark sun is postgame soooo...
@thegreatkingdedede7391
@thegreatkingdedede7391 6 лет назад
Hi
@andrewthurgood3184
@andrewthurgood3184 6 лет назад
:)
@eeped
@eeped 4 года назад
Your team is bad.
@SasukeUchiha-tu4ei
@SasukeUchiha-tu4ei 5 лет назад
is lucina the one off smash bros?
@olly_lmao
@olly_lmao 5 лет назад
Nope, she's from Fire Emblem
@GoroAkechi_
@GoroAkechi_ 3 года назад
@Kirb Da Best yeah but she’s originally a fire emblem character
@felipedestickman
@felipedestickman 7 лет назад
Cringe
@danzemanatee
@danzemanatee 6 лет назад
please stop describing your channel :)
@shinyminunthetheatregeek2036
@shinyminunthetheatregeek2036 5 лет назад
@@danzemanatee Hope they have enough money for ice packs.
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