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Mike D'Antoni on the Evolution of Offense | Thinking Basketball  

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Coach Mike D'Antoni stops by to discuss the origins of Pace and Space, the offensive revolution that has changed NBA strategy in the last decade. We discuss his influences in Italy and the ABA, his time in Phoenix with Steve Nash, the Rockets with James Harden and Chris Paul, and more. Support at www.patreon.com/thinkingbasketball
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Комментарии : 86   
@zoobiezaa
@zoobiezaa Год назад
so cool that you get to have this conversation with one of the most iconic coaches ever, literally the guy who invented the '7 seconds or less offense' that changed the nba
@yoyolol22
@yoyolol22 Год назад
Curry better
@zdthekilla6950
@zdthekilla6950 Год назад
What’s more legendary is thinking basketball was always apart of mikes story And Ben’s story
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 Год назад
And it's striking to see how indeed only Thinking Basketball could get, talk and enjoy a guest like D'Antoni. There would be no point to accept (and hell, he and his thoughts wouldn't get even called) the invite from the popular bums that yap about basketball on YT. It's not even close with how Ben's cultural value strikes compared to the rest.
@nonamewillbegiven6847
@nonamewillbegiven6847 Год назад
So funny you think he's iconic and he literally never won a chip due to having no defense
@nonamewillbegiven6847
@nonamewillbegiven6847 Год назад
@@zdthekilla6950 yawn
@willhooke
@willhooke Год назад
Always excited by the Nash Suns and Harden Rockets A bit of fortune and it nearly had worked against the lauded Golden State Warriors 🔥
@onelove2230
@onelove2230 Год назад
Loved hearing Mikes prescriptive on offensive efficiency. Though his ideas may not always pan out he has undoubtedly pushed the game forward.
@sorenwestwood1514
@sorenwestwood1514 Год назад
1000 years from now this will be more important than winning a championship.
@MightbePettingmyCat
@MightbePettingmyCat Год назад
@@sorenwestwood1514 even 100 years from now the NBA will cease to exist
@sorenwestwood1514
@sorenwestwood1514 Год назад
@@MightbePettingmyCat if people don't stop destroying the planet, that's probably true no cap.
@saehanbang1376
@saehanbang1376 Год назад
This is such a gem. Ben did a great job digging into one of the best minds in the NBA. Its such a shame that this doesnt have more views.
@josipmarasovic7084
@josipmarasovic7084 Год назад
Just shows that people are shallow and just want highlights
@pedrochorao8952
@pedrochorao8952 Год назад
@@josipmarasovic7084 But also Ben put this on his new channel which has still very few subscribers, if it was on ain channel probably have 10 times more views
@moreTB
@moreTB Год назад
We have a few sections coming up from this show that are enhanced for the main channel.
@thedarkfrost2351
@thedarkfrost2351 Год назад
Why is it a shame?
@BrothaGoneBased
@BrothaGoneBased Год назад
This is for the basketball history nerds. Super in depth.
@surenick3460
@surenick3460 Год назад
"Either guy (CP3 or Steve Nash) on your team, you're going to be a hell of a coach" every legendary coach needs their Pop "draft Tim Duncan" quote.
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 Год назад
Learning from the best attitude. Pop is such a great coach. Classic quote.
@williamblake7386
@williamblake7386 Год назад
Mike look just like in Game of Zones. What a legend.
@imhotepnixon
@imhotepnixon Год назад
Lmao 100%
@sophiawilliams8650
@sophiawilliams8650 Год назад
crazy how Mike basically just used intuition most years and always just did what was right for what he felt highlighted his best 5 never would’ve thought his philosophy would be as simple as he made it love the insight
@david.tousignant20
@david.tousignant20 Год назад
I love D'Antoni's approach. You don't force players into your system. You built your system around your assets.
@david.tousignant20
@david.tousignant20 Год назад
@Luke Walker Name me one coach who can develop 100% for every of his players? I'll wait... And you really named Howard at this point in his career?
@david.tousignant20
@david.tousignant20 Год назад
@Luke Walker Building around Harden was a problem. You are right. It didn't worked in Houston, Philadelphia and now in Brooklyn... 100% real
@david.tousignant20
@david.tousignant20 Год назад
@Luke Walker If you're bringing stats, you are the living proof you didn't watched those years. Howard admitted he wasn't himself after he left Orlando and he wasn't the best teammate (I paraphrase, but you get the idea). Howard collected problems with Nash and Kobe during his Lakers first tenure. You can't be in such denial. Howard changed after he rejoined the Lakers for a second stint. He admitted he had to change.
@david.tousignant20
@david.tousignant20 Год назад
@Luke Walker About Pau, he was the best defensive version of himself in the NBA, the best rebounder in the system and the second scoring option of the Lakers. You're playing with Kobe, what else were you expecting? BTW, after the 2009 NBA Finals, the best version of PAU Gasol was his Bulls days, then with D'Antoni. Don't forget Pau was crippled with injuries during those purple and gold days!
@thumpthumptv1651
@thumpthumptv1651 Год назад
@user-jt1fp8gq5y It is pretty common knowledge that Howard didn't want to be used as a roll option, so how do you work with that? There were a bunch of issues and t wasn't that he oouldn't outright use them.
@blacknetsmed
@blacknetsmed Год назад
22:38 Yes, it is cultural, mainly where people weirdly treat basketball as a 1 on 1 sport. If you want to look up highlights of a particular game many times the player's highlights are packaged as a "duel" between the other star player which I always thought was a weird way too present highlights. The team is dueling, but individual players are not really "dueling".
@jjopl
@jjopl 5 месяцев назад
Had to write this comment after 21:14, confirms everything I've felt about how superstars absorb every and ALL narratives around team success (or failure). The TEAM game aspect is highly underserved in NBA sports media. Hearing this brought up by someone of D'Antoni's status was fun - compared to normal media personality analysis.
@katinvidal7281
@katinvidal7281 Год назад
This was probably my favorite podcast to listen to. When i saw this on spotify my ears perked up. Imagine saying this when you were making non stylized thumbnails and the podcast didnt even exist.
@Homer-OJ-Simpson
@Homer-OJ-Simpson Год назад
The 2004 Suns were built for the post hand checking era. Run and gun offense. Even though they didn’t shoot as many 3’s as teams do now, their pace is now the norm.
@willhooke
@willhooke Год назад
Boris Diaw was magnificent for the Spurs Did well guarding LeBron too
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 Год назад
Diaw was pulling Horry-level type of values when he was focused.
@mostgeneralZ
@mostgeneralZ Год назад
This video better be recommended to everyone. It was excellent and very insightful. One thing i will say is, you did interrupt him quite a bit more than expected, but with great questions.
@Ycfia
@Ycfia Год назад
Love this ! Would love one on defense as well
@DrawQuick2014
@DrawQuick2014 Год назад
First George Lopez now D'Antoni no one has a wider audience than Ben
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 Год назад
Real recognizes real culture.
@jasonbrn8541
@jasonbrn8541 Год назад
This is awesome content!
@moreTB
@moreTB Год назад
Thanks!
@tucomtyler
@tucomtyler Год назад
more of these please
@xiAMGeno
@xiAMGeno Год назад
Great vid
@moreTB
@moreTB Год назад
Thanks Geno!
@injusticeanywherethreatens265
Thanks for this! Are we gonna get best players of 2021-2022? Please !? Please!?
@-piras
@-piras Год назад
I remember being 12 years old and a friend of mine admired boris diaw to like the highest degree, and always thought it was funny. guess he just saw something i didnt at the time
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 Год назад
It's that Fisher and Horry's fascination. Artest's too.
@willhooke
@willhooke Год назад
Ben we want an update of AD playing at the 5 Please 🙂
@moreTB
@moreTB Год назад
Working on it!
@willhooke
@willhooke Год назад
@@moreTB sounds good 🔥
@K-Dot94
@K-Dot94 Год назад
Wow!
@louloop9137
@louloop9137 Год назад
I was expecting some discussion about the Linsanity era on what went wrong and what went right 🤷🏻‍♂️
@benjihuynh2970
@benjihuynh2970 Год назад
Sweet
@ThePoker215
@ThePoker215 Год назад
How did you get this?
@louloop9137
@louloop9137 Год назад
18:00 *CARMELO* *ANTHONY* 👀👀👀🤔
@louloop9137
@louloop9137 Год назад
18:00 19:40 *CARMELO* *ANTHONY* 👀👀👀🤔
@philippewakim8385
@philippewakim8385 Год назад
19:39 : any idea who they are talking about specifically ?
@MrMatFuchs
@MrMatFuchs Год назад
I would imagine Kobe
@TheTomgrindley
@TheTomgrindley Год назад
Maybe Melo, basically any chucker though
@blacknetsmed
@blacknetsmed Год назад
Ben definitely thinking about Dominique Wilkins and maybe Allen Iverson, but early 2000s Jerry Stackhouse and Chris Webber in general fit this mold to a T.
@blacknetsmed
@blacknetsmed Год назад
@@MrMatFuchs Perception of Kobe's efficiency is so fascinating to me. Kobe has a higher Career Relative True Shooting Percentage in both playoffs and Regular Season than Dwyane Wade and Hakeem Olajuwon. Kobe has a higher Career defense adjusted Relative True Shooting Percentage in the Playoffs than both Larry Bird and Tim Duncan. Has the same Career Relative True Shooting Percentage in the Regular Season as Bird and Duncan. Meaning Kobe's efficiency was either better or the same as Wade, Olajuwon, Bird or Duncan, but for some bizarre logic gets viewed as some chucker by some, maybe it has something to do with people who still archaic junk stats like FG%.
@MrMatFuchs
@MrMatFuchs Год назад
@@blacknetsmed Thanks for taking the time to comment. Good insight!
@dereksupernaut
@dereksupernaut Год назад
fun fact: 3 points is more than 2 points... fax!!!
@chrismac3598
@chrismac3598 6 месяцев назад
Why is he not coaching still?
@dereksupernaut
@dereksupernaut Год назад
if u want to see Bananas Basketball they should get rid of the 3-point line making half-court basketball less productive and putting a premium on fastbreak offense like the early 1960s or the Showtime Lakers in the 1980s... fax!!!
@toteispoe4
@toteispoe4 Год назад
Totally felt the tension...😬
@dannyou2043
@dannyou2043 Год назад
what tension?
@toteispoe4
@toteispoe4 Год назад
@@dannyou2043 That was just me overreacting to D'Antoni saying that you can't judge coaches so easily near the end.
@alectateformayor5129
@alectateformayor5129 Год назад
Can you and jj Reddick make an episode togther. Is live to hear you to talk basketball
@JOHNNYPMUSIC
@JOHNNYPMUSIC Год назад
Why don’t you talk about Anthony Davis anymore
@MightbePettingmyCat
@MightbePettingmyCat Год назад
he doesnt play……
@tippylosojos
@tippylosojos Год назад
Don Nelson was better
@kamilebrahimoff3589
@kamilebrahimoff3589 Год назад
Mike D'Antoni had great offensive schemes for the game, but what about a defensive scheme? Other than more offense. This had to be the reason his teams did not win the NBA title.
@dylancnguyen
@dylancnguyen Год назад
I think going against the greatest team ever assembled probably has something to do with it too.
@back2back379
@back2back379 Год назад
He had a good defense in Houston when he had the personnel for it in 2018. If the players are bad defensive players, the team's gonna be bad defensively. It's about the players. Frank Vogel is known as a defensive coach, and had great defenses when he had the personnel for it in 2020, but the Lakers have been bad defensively the past 2 years because their personnel is just not good defensively.
@MrKrabs-ho6gz
@MrKrabs-ho6gz Год назад
Hoping he’s gonna ask him about being there helping to coach the big 3 nets🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽
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