Mike Dean grilled on comments about Anthony Taylor VAR controversy! 

Mike “ManYoo” Dean

Unless it applies to though , and you'll protect anyone you like

The logic doesn't even track, if he wanted to protect his "mate", he should've sent Taylor to the monitor so he could rectify a clear mistake and that would've been the end of it. What he did made zero sense whichever angle you look at it.

Isn't it the same thing if a player professionally fouls to protect the team, & doesn't honour the rules?

@@r4h4al no it's not the same at all

The PGMOL needs to be disbanded.

future younger mini mike deans to be petrified of

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Y the hell his license not suspended? It needs to be

Cos they're not mistakes. He is admitting knowing in the moment what he should have done, and choosing to do something else. It would be naive to think this is the first time

but it's not a mistake he made a conscious decision not to tell Taylor it was a penalty and a red that's cheating my friend not a mistake

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@@p-money33Exactly. See how he brushes off Tuchel getting sacked. He puts his mates ahead of integrity. I just watched United and Forest and looking at the red card and penalty, I feel these guys called refs are there for their own interests

Did you not watch the interview ? He did it on purpose.

He's already retired so not much they can do

100%, they’re an absolute disgrace and massive “mistakes” like this go unpunished every single week

@@georges4835he isn’t, he still does the VAR

​@@barry4649he is retired. He retired because he didnt want to do VAR.

He works for Sky now.

Cos they’re probably in on it aswell. Why do you think none of these poor ref decisions haven’t been overruled yet? Because they’re applying what Mike dean said about “constantly sending them over will make it look like he’s having a nightmare” even more than last season. So basically any clear pen that’s not given is likely to stay not given and vice versa. They’ll do anything to protect their mates

*programme

If they sacked him, then they wouldn't be looking out for their mate and we now know that is the number one mission of the PGMOL. Protect your mates first, officiate the rules of the game second. The entire organization needs to be restructured, bring in some talent from other countries and have them run the system.

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Have u ever tried reffing?

100%, that could’ve cost one of the clubs millions based off it impacting where they finished

Absolute

Baldy must have been gambling on tottenham

@@barry4649only Chelsea would’ve been affected by it and they would’ve finished 11th instead of 12th that’s something that this game directly impacted as a definite, with football tho we’ve seen it so many times a team has bad luck gets a good result and then roll on from there yes Chelsea was awful last season but who’s to say they wouldn’t have had a bounce back after beating a local rival?

@@Lfceva well I’d say with almost certainty that not winning that game cost Thomas Tuchel his job and I am certain we’d have done much better with him still in charge than Potter

I’d say corruption sold as incompetence is the real problem. There’s no way the best referees for the biggest sporting league in the world can be this bad if they’re actually the best available for the job

I’ll wait for you to go out and give it a go then

Yeah, protecting his mate when that protection will obviously get him more abuse screams of a lie

What's the difference to Roy Keane selecting full MU team in a greatest LIV and MU team he openly admits he wouldn't betray a lad and will always have his mates backs. Refs got the same culture it's them against everyone to get through a toxic and negative job role on a Saturday afternoon. It's unprofessional of him to refer to his colleagues as mates but understandable.

Are you joking? The difference is the segment Roy is doing is just for fun, the referees doing that costs peoples jobs

@@EKensaiRoy Keane picking a team full of united players in a combined 11 vs an official not doing his job protecting his mate & costing a team 2 points. It’s incomparable

⁠@@JordiBoy_Chelsea were up 2-1 at that point and spurs were allowed to retake the corner which resulted in a goal. If the right call was made, be it a foul or a pen, it would’ve at least been Chelsea’s ball either way and we would’ve won the game.

They spent millions on a spa for old men, the VAR decisions are secondary

Exactly. When he said the Liverpool Macalister wasn’t a red because he can see why the ref gave it in real time. That’s not what it’s there for. You’re supposed to watch the replay not just protect the on field ref. Appalling.

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Exactly, if you pull someone’s shirt or a body part it’s a foul why isn’t someone’s hair

@@user39265 According to the rules pulling someones hair is a foul is exactly the same as pulling someones shirt, it isn't considered a violent act though. We may not like it, but that is what the rules currently say

@@ultrademigod Yeah but it’s still a foul and should give a free kick to the opposition

Well, what's the difference in pulling someone's hair, & pulling someone's shirt?

@@r4h4alhair is physically part of someone. A shirt is not.

Listen to the podcast mate. He's openly said that referring is going in a positive direction its better for the game it just wasn't for him being in the VAR room.

And honestly that's dumb to think that. As just a fan, IDK how the officials get it right on the pitch ad much as they do. Seeing things that happen in a split second and getting it even 75% right is quite frankly amazing. VAR is there to help you with the rest. I don't get upset at an official that doesn't get it right on the pitch. But when another official has access to the replay and can't even get clear and objective calls right, that ticks me off.

But ironically if they used it as intended then thered be no issues. Human error happens as we all know, but then being able to go back and correct a mostake but no, They dont.

Exactly! Why does Dean think sending him to the screen is an insult? How is he “helping” the ref by not sending him over?

​@@EKensaibecause he's incapable of pointing out other refs missed something because they all see it as a personal attack on thier abilities.

Stop being so dramatic. Cantona literally assaulted a fan and never got a lifetime ban. Zidane headbutted an opponent and never got a lifetime ban

Why would sky get rid of him when he's bringing in new viewers ?

@@Camden0800 very different situations and I would argue those were insufficiently punished anyway. A closer (but not direct) comparison is Tim Donaghy who served prison time and was banned from the nba after admitting spot fixing certain decisions in nba games.

​@@p-money33 nah mate, the NBA situation was criminal because money and betting was involved. This is poor judgement...that's it.

@@p-money33 but this isn’t match fixing. Therefore that argument doesn’t work

He’s trying to back out of it but still can’t say why he didn’t send him to the screen.

U speculate

@@michaelwallden7261 no. i think.

Absolute corruption

Then he would have no need to come out and admit it. Humans are humans, they make mistakes. It's that simple. His honesty is actually admirable

@@robbo512 yeah and it’s weird he tries to compare it to footballers doing stuff to protect their teammates… I mean if a player intentionally did something that would lessen the chance of his team winning just to ‘protect’ one of his teammates from embarrassment, then that would also be very wrong and I’m sure his manager would be furious. They’re there to do a job, and for the referees that is to officiate the game and make the right decisions. Letting protecting your colleagues get in the way of that is surely not right, but throughout this video Mike dean seemed to not have much of a problem with it 🤔 Tbh I hope more come out and say this sort of stuff just so it can be more open and we can see the truth behind decisions. I still firmly believe all VAR communications should be broadcast, I can’t really think of a good reason against it. It would at least make us see the reasoning behind each decision even if we don’t agree with it. Because at times people are left wondering just how they have arrived at certain decisions.

@Drenwickification there's plenty of times players do things and other players back them but privately would disagree its called being united as a team. Mike has pointed out that he addressed it privately and Mr Antony Taylor told him he was wrong. If you watched his actual full podcast with Mr Jordan you will see Mike Dean found it difficult the introduction of VAR and ultimately decided he couldn't do it and retired. He's said that the full communication is coming 100 percent referring is changing and for the better he even said this. I don't think at any point Mike's said he is happy with the decision he made. All this uproar, for a man that is like anyone else made a human mistake and admitted his errors being roasted for it.

The way he talks and carries himself as well. Yet he's supposed to be the authority figure on the pitch? Give me a break.

Exactly mate I’ve been saying this for ages, just send the ref to the monitor

This is where his defence falls apart imo. You can in a way feel for him if he’s saying he wasn’t good at the job and that was the problem (albeit it still throws the system into complete doubt). But he’s basically said there that VAR is gonna protect the ref over actually refereeing the game properly proves it’s a disgrace. It pretty much contradicts everything he’s said in his defence, and implying he’s just trying to make excuses (which refs love to do when justifying decisions btw)

No, you overrule the ref when it's blatantly obvious. You only send the ref to the screen when you're unsure yourself, and want a second opinion (even though you have 6 or 7 other people to consult with in the VAR room).

He has totally undermined himself and made himself look like a fool. At least he is centre of attention though hey.

Literally, didn't have to come back on this type of platform

@@thatheat1914 was always anti-NUFC

He just loves being the centre of attention.

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Need to sack the lot and start from scratch

They would have finished 10th.

They'd have finished 11th instead of 12th.

They probably went to dinner together later

He thinks we'd just take his word for it..not take his other words for it 😂

Match fixing is premeditated for personal gain, knowingly making an incorrect decision to potentially take some heat off of a colleague (taking him at his word) is nowhere near as malicious, to claim the two are equivalent and should be punished in the same way is ignorant and reactionary. That being said, the sheer number of questionable decisions which seem to be made each week does lead me to think that an independent review of the entire refereeing body and their processes is definitely warranted to ensure that there is no malicious intent when those questionable decisions are made.

Lol that didn't contribute to tuchels dismissal. Chelsea had a right mare last season even with tuchel. Yeah it won't have helped but Chelsea shouldve been more clinical in that game. But everyone saying it contributed to him losing his job are living in cloud cuckoo land

Shut man, a red card doesn’t suddenly make his team good 😂

@@billybobthornton9668yeah your right, they need to have a complete separation between on field officials and var officials to remove the potential of "favoritism" in attempts to protect colleagues. I wouldn't call it match fixing either but its still manipulation of a result by not following the integrity and rules put to them. He keeps saying If I hadn't of said friend or mate and just colleague it would have been forgotten about which is him trying to deflect responsibility of his inaction, still gives VAR a bad look and will 100% make all previous questionable decisions be looked at with even more distrust.

Finally….. Mike Dean is the soul reason for Chelsea’s demise. I can sleep easy

Exactlyyy what I thought. We all can see the replay. If the ref makes a wrong call and correct himself with VAR, I dont see anything wrong at all. Its all about getting the right decision

The fact that the refs view it as something else makes me all the more for it. Unfortunately, you kinda need the refs to implement the VAR.

Cause they’re insecure

Saying my mistake is quite literally taking accountability.

@@Kuziph your comment is funny

@@Kuziph so it's fine then? everything worked out, now? we lost Tuchel because of this, 100%

I didn't hear an apology anywhere in what he said.

The book stops with me. Easy to say that now when he's no longer working as a ref and can't be held accountable. He was so infuriatingly dismissive.

100%, and I’m just waiting for them to be investigated because I can’t believe they can be this bad even with technology helping them see blatant decisions over and over week in week out, and the referees never getting punished for their actions. I mean Thomas Tuchel had to pay a 50 grand fine after this game for calling out the referees for this mistake but Dean didn’t come out then, he instead let him pay the fine and then came out when the incident was out of sight out of mind

match fixing i believe

You heard Dean, favours for mates, everyone has mates so plenty of favours, no wonder there's so many bizarre inconsistent decisions.

Too many grey areas still when it comes to football rules

@@chrismcmurtry935 Indeed, cricket is also a stop/start game that lends itself to set pieces.

@@chrismcmurtry935 Cricket has grey areas too. But they just call them "Umpire's Decision" and stick with the original call. For example, this could be used for offsides. Instead of spending 5+ mins working out a toe over the line, use a thicker line and if both players are on the line, stick with the original decision..

@@Richard3261 yeah I agree for offsides but the problem comes in with handballs for penalties which seems to change game by game for what the ref will give or not, or how much contact when a player goes down in the penalty area, every weekend there's a controversial decision, which is not the case with cricket, but definitely could be more efficient with offsides

@@Richard3261 but also offside, as annoying as the line drawing is, there is no debate, it's all the contentious handballs, diving, was the defender too close when the ball struck him in the hand, I think that's why it took so long for VAR to be introduced because it just makes more of a mess, too much left up to interpretation

Mike “ManYoo” Dean

Reminds me of the Spanish ref at the World Cup with Argentina-Netherlands. Very clearly wanted to be the star of the show and overshadow other players such as Messi and VVD on the pitch. The fact both countries after demanded he got sent home from the tournament and not officiate a match of such magnitude spoke volumes.

This is a point that no one is highlighting. He’s openly admitted to purposely cheat a team. And he sounds so nonchalant in doing so. No one in the FA to come out and punish this guy. Players now can’t talk to a ref now without facing a fine or a booking. But refs can get away w openly cheating. Refs trying to make it about themselves.

Right? All because Anthony Taylor is a friend 🙄 He's another referee that needs to go. He's often caused problems for Chelsea.

Mike Riley used to be head of the PGMOL. 🤣

Me too, i even remember thiago silva getting armed across the back of the head from that West Ham striker anthony, i think is his name that wasnt blown either

Not true with Chelsea being cheated out of VAR. No doubt the big clubs get far more decisions than the small clubs, Chelsea may have lost out in that game but they arent the losers in the big picture. Its the little clubs in the prem who lose out

@@hobben01 shall I remind you of the game against united at the bridge where maguire clearly kicked batshuayi and got away with it and then a goal ruled out for nothing?

He still hasn’t apologised to the club

2002-2007 was the most elite time in the premier league imo

Nah 1930’s

@@kofijack5257 true

@@BlitzMCR People back then made the exact same arguments. "game is gone", "too soft these days", "all about the money", "bring back the 90s". In 20 years time we'll all go on like this era was amazing too...

@@robbo512 I’m a city fan so I should love this era but I dunno there was just something about the 90s/early to mid 2000s that was special

The big six has nothing to do with being a so called "big club" it's to do with money. The big six are just made up of the six most successful clubs and the six richest clubs.

@@RoyalRegimentofScotland villa and Newcastle have more money then spurs and more trophys so that has just killed that argument

@@BG_MKY They just quite literally don't 😂 villa and Newcastle both don't have more trophies the last time Newcastle won a trophy was like 30 odd years before spurs last won a trophy. Only Newcastle is richer than spurs out of the two