Mike Trout Has a Torn Meniscus; How Long Will He Be Out? Los Angeles Angels Blow Lead to Phillies

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The Los Angeles Angels got some bad news about Mike Trout yesterday, as he was diagnosed with a torn left meniscus that will cause him to miss some time this season. On today's show, we'll share reactions from Trout, Ron Washington, Perry Minasian, and others, and we'll discuss how the Angels will handle this moving forward. We'll update you on the roster moves they made in light of the injury, and we'll provide you a detailed explanation of Trout's options and when those options would lead to his return.
Plus, we've got your recap of last night's game against the Phillies that saw the Halos battle back from 3-0, take the lead, and enter the 9th ahead before Carlos Estevez blew the save and the lead. How did the Angels nearly secure the series victory before the Halos' closer gave up the win? We'll give you all the details in segment 3.
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@bhbecca Месяц назад

It's only May 1 and we are already done. Can Angel fans now stop blowing smoke up my skirt explaining how great our team is? Minasian is a genius? Arte's really a good guy? Rendon and Trout are out again in their usual order of disappearance. Hicks, who was good enough to be our opening day right fielder is now not good enough four weeks into the season. Canning & Sandoval have been Canning & Sandoval, which might make a great law firm, but not a rotation hammer. Estevez still isn't a closer. Reyes still can't get guys out. This is painful to witness!

@MiamiHeathaveL23 Месяц назад

if you were hopeful for a successful season, then thats where you went wrong. the season was over from the beginning. this is a developmental season for all our youngin’s

@thomasjoseph3488 Месяц назад

I read you loud and clear. As a Marlins fan, you know that I understand. To me, though, there's no reason to write off all value in the season. It can and should be used for players to get ABs/innings. try some role situations, showcase players for possible trades, and evaluate for next season. Sounds obvious, but I guarantee Washington has plenty of things he wants to do and plans to adapt for the long haul.

@nsanps Месяц назад

The issue is that this team doesn’t fully commit to the rebuilding process, most teams sell or trade for prospects and don’t bring hicks, they play their adells and moniaks to see what they are made of. By not fully committing they create this illusion that the team will go somewhere. Drury, Moore, ward, rengifo, rendon and even trout when health should be considered as trade pieces, if interest arises. The hope is for the future. Hope that some of the young guys can become good mlb regulars, hope that the angels draft well and a few years from now have a run, most teams have those cycles, the angels window ended long ago. It’s time to fully commit. Wait until the deadline and go get prospects.

@bhbecca Месяц назад

@@nsanps You are 100% correct! I've grown tired of Minasian's act. Listening to him explain we are built as a team and not built on one player is nauseating. How are we built? What trades did he make in the off season? We didn't sign a single starting fielder or pitcher and refused to sign a DH. We are trotting out the same players year after year. What pitcher have we developed with success? How many pitchers are we using frm the draft where we took all pitchers?

@bhbecca Месяц назад

@@MiamiHeathaveL23 There's a big problem when you say this season is about the kids because it's not what management has repeatedly said. They said we were going to be compete-- right? They said they were better overall without Ohtani. And when you talk about developing our young players-- if that's the case why was Hicks the starting right fielder over Moniak? Moniak has not been allowed to even play three straight games so far this season and he earned that right last year. They pinch hit for him on his third and 4th at bat. He came into the season full of confidence and the Angels have gone out of their way to torpedo the kid. If they didn't believe in him they should have traded him in the off season when his value was high. Moniak didn't play until the 4th game of the season. Adell is just now being allowed to play every day. Not exactly a method to develop young players. Who are the young pitchers on this staff we are developing? Soriano that they ping ponged back and forth between relieving and starting? Detmers and who else? Certainly not Sandoval and Canning playing in their 6th ineffective seasons? Who in the bullpen are we developing? Is there a single young stud reliever? We don't have a single young position player in the minors close to making this team-- not one, and certainly not as a long term solution. What starting pitching prospect is close to contributing as a rotation anchor? Our team ERA is second to last in all of baseball behind only Colorado that plays at Coor's field. This team is not close to being a winner or even having a long term strategy.

@JoshuaAaronLopez Месяц назад

Make the pain go away Mike and Jon. Make the pain go away

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

We wish we could 😩

@DavidGarcia-xo9yv Месяц назад

Wow what a surprise Trout out again along with Rendon,do these guys go on vacation together or what 2 contracts that have been a big waste of money.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Yes, vacationing all the way from the dugout, supporting their teammates.

@surfwriter8461 Месяц назад

I would like to be sympathetic to Trout's predicament with another injury, but it's also hard to avoid just confronting the reality that Trout has been injury-prone for the last four years or so and can't be counted on. As it stood prior to the injury, he was not exactly lighting it up as a hitter, though his HRs were eye-catching. So once again, we have Trout lost for at least a few weeks and Rendon out for however long it is on the current IL stay. Neither of them are reliable to stay healthy and contribute to a team that needs standout players. Rendon at least made public comments about how frustrated he is at being injured, as if he might actually care about being a contributor. Trout is obviously emotionally torn up over this latest injury. But it's become all too common for him to be unavailable.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

It's the reality of these guys playing into their 30s. The problem is, it doesn't seem to matter what they do (protect him, let him play with the training wheels off, etc.). The inevitability of injuries is all too real now.

@surfwriter8461 Месяц назад

@@LockedOnAngels I don't consider age a main factor in Trout's injuries. He's 32, trains well, and has been getting seriously injured for, what, four years in a row now. I know the risk of injury is there all along, but in Trout's case I say again, he's injury-prone. Others play into their thirties without the history of repeated injuries like Trout has suffered.

@gregpettis1113 Месяц назад

The baseball nerds love trout because analytics says there's no difference between a game tying homerun and a homerun in a ten run game. They also say RBI is overrated, but it's always the same guys who drive in a hundred runs every year. The guy had 10 homeruns and 14 rbi. I don't think trout has ever had a walk off. And he's always injured.

@surfwriter8461 Месяц назад

@@gregpettis1113 He had a period of years when he truly was one of the greats in the game, and I think he still has some greatness in him. But for the last four years he's been a drag on the team, playing in less than half the games and repeatedly getting injured. He stopped stealing bases after that injury to his hand, but this year he started stealing bases again. But I noticed the same thing you did--HRs almost equal to the number of RBI (Rs scored slightly more than RBI) So when he wasn't hitting solo HRs, he was having little impact on the team's scoring.

@angelicalop Месяц назад

Welcome back Jon! You and Mike make my drive to work less painful. I am sad about Mike Trout but I hope he is back this season!🤞

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Glad we can keep you entertained on your drive, Angelica!

@TroutWest Месяц назад

It's really tough to be an angel's fan at this point That is for sure. That loss last night was extremely hard to watch

@Max-qk3xi Месяц назад

Had it in the bag and just dropped it when Estevez went up

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Seriously tough, especially against a team like the Phillies. Angels were in all three games and let these last two slip away.

@KimoKapaku Месяц назад

I think Trout's time as an Angel is done. Look at his past 5 seasons. How many games has he missed due to injury? It's a sad commentary on the Angels front office on how bad this team has been managed. The lack of pitching and everything else. I have been a Angels fan since 1974 and at least I will have 2002 where there were no superstars, just guys who could do the job

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Wouldn't say that his time as an Angel is done, but we certainly can't rely on him for a full season anymore, unfortunately.

@je9237 Месяц назад

He has been done for several years.

@BryanH63 Месяц назад

Fan since 1968... I just can't with this team anymore. I am still a fan but not losing sleep (I now live in the Central Time Zone) staying up to watch the futility. Not putting off other things so I can watch the games... I and WE the fans obviously care more about the team than the ownership. I know it is a business and I know we can't just sign any players we want but this past off season showed how little effort was put in to improving this team. Now we are stuck going through another awful season. I just don't know what to think or how to feel anymore.

@jtaylorstudios Месяц назад

I let go after last season. Realized just how much I was letting the frustration affect me. This season I resigned that they won’t be a playoff team, at least this season. I expect the worst and enjoy the rare wins then I go about my other priorities in my life. So far it’s helped.

@BryanH63 Месяц назад

@@jtaylorstudios I was at the Sat and Sun games in Cincinnati... I usually go to a couple games a year when the Angels are in the Midwest... Wasn't a fun experience

@rollwithdynamite Месяц назад

Arte hates the Angels fans. the only thing he cares about his keeping his American Wife in his bed. hes not in it for the game.

@rollwithdynamite Месяц назад

Arte couldnt care less about the fans.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

You're definitely right Bryan in that we care a whole lot more than ownership seems to care, that's for sure!

@onnaquunevie9530 Месяц назад

Trout's idol is Derek Jeter. The Yankees of Jeter's era may have been worthy of loyalty. But his loyalty to the Angels, owned by Arte Moreno, is heartbreaking…

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

At the time that he signed the extension, there was certainly a lot of reason to believe the team could be good and continue to add what they needed. Unfortunately, Angels brass didn't hold up their end of the bargain.

@surfwriter8461 Месяц назад

@@LockedOnAngels What reason was there at the time? I think Trout's decision had more to do with blind loyalty and a desire to remain in southern California. I don't believe there was much basis for a pipe dream about the Angels becoming a serious contender, certainly not with Moreno as owner.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

@@surfwriter8461 A big reason? Ohtani. They brought him in to help the rotation, and by the time of Trout's extension, he had his first pitching injury with the idea that he'd be back the next year. They still had Skaggs and Heaney as pieces of the rotation and had the opportunity to add more in the offseason with Cole and Wheeler. But, Arte spent on Rendon that winter.

@surfwriter8461 Месяц назад

@@LockedOnAngels I see your point but don't think that should have given Trout a lot of hope for things changing dramatically. One or two additional players, even with a massive talent like Ohtani, would not turn a mediocre team around. I don't recall the timing but never thought the Angels were going big on high-caliber signings. I liked Rendon at the time and thought he could help, but it was another huge investment in a single player on offense when they've needed quality pitching for many years. Rendon, Hamilton, even Pujols--players who had seen their primes go by and were a dud compared with expectations and the excessive cash thrown at them.

@JohnRodney77 Месяц назад

MAY DAY... MAY DAY This is what I feared the most for this team. WE ARE IN TROUBLE. 1. Rendon- Left Hamstring 4/21 on a 10 Day IL 2. Robert Stephenson- Right Shoulder Inflammation 4/21 60 Day IL 3. Silseth- Right Elbow Inflammation 4/30 on 60 day IL 4. Jose Cisnero- Right Shoulder Inflammation 4/28 on 15 day IL 5. Stefanic- Left Quad Strain 4/30 on 60 day IL 6. Trout- LEFT KNEE MENISCUS TEAR 4/30 on 10 day IL 30 games done and this is what we got. I don't believe this medical staff saying Trout will only be out for 10 days. It's a MENISCUS TEAR! Sources say he will need surgery. IMO he's likely done for the season only playing 24 games. The time schedule for surgery and rehab all done in 5 months is pushing it. Wash just play the young guys everyday now. Kevin Pillar, Cole Tucker, Ehire Adrianza, and Miguel Sano are just delaying the youth progression. It's clear within the last 2 weeks of how Adell, Rengifo, Neto, and Schanuel are starting to produce again. Everydayers here just keep the Hopium and we'll get through this together. No Expectations remember...

@btrainbraydeboisseranc7570 Месяц назад

The Ohtani Curse has begun Thanks Arte

@rogerfortner3109 Месяц назад

@@btrainbraydeboisseranc7570we would have lost with Shohei! Arte’s boner was not trading Shohei in 2022. We could have cleaned out someone’s farm system.

@rogerfortner3109 Месяц назад

Who are the young players they are not using? If you look at the position players in AAA none of them are really knocking the cover off of the ball or appear major league ready.

@bhbecca Месяц назад

We're in trouble? That's a bit of an understatement. That's like seeing a man on fire and in flames and saying he looks a little hot.

@JohnRodney77 Месяц назад

@bhbecca Just pointing out the obvious of course. If you consider it an understatement, then that's how you see it. This coming from the person who told me Drury played 3rd base last year when he didn't. Yes, still waiting for that answer from you...

@rogerfortner3109 Месяц назад

Losing Trout is a tough blow. However, we will find out what Rengifo, Ward, Schanuel, Adell, Moniak, Neto and O’hoppe have. However, I do think we can score runs. Pitching is our problem as usual! If our pitching can fix itself who knows. I am glad we hired Ron Washington he is an excellent teacher of the game. Our young players will improve. I love Trout but he was 10-83 at the plate. However, playoff tickets are not forthcoming.

@mattosso7676 Месяц назад

We're going to see that placing faith in our young players is misguided. They aren't winning many games with this group. They could only manage 10 wins with Trout leading the majors with 10 HRs. if you're keeping track (and I am), that's more than Schanuel - 2, Neto -2, O'Hoppe - 2, Rengifo - 2, Moniak - 1 and Drury - , COMBINED. Since it's CLEAR the Angels pitching staff is incapable of preventing runs, the Angels need higher run productions. This means they need to go back playing Scioscia-style small ball. That means they need to have better, more quality ABs. They have the 9th most SOs in the entire league, but without Trout's bat, are ranked 27th in HRs. Usually high SO are a byproduct of being a power hitter. That's not the case. The Angels have no true power hitter without Trout.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Last night is a good example of a team that has the ability to score runs, but the Achilles heel continues to be the pitching, like you mentioned.

@mattosso7676 Месяц назад

@@LockedOnAngels Can we just all call this what it really is?? The Curse of Moreno. lol. That's the ONLY way to explain all the bad luck the Angels have experience since Disney sold the team.

@user-sq6yn8pj9k Месяц назад

I think specifically bull pen pitching that is reliable (we know who is reliable) can't go back to back days . Garcia and maybe Strickland have shown some of that stamina.

@carmenventuro5087 Месяц назад

At least last season we had 3 months of possibilities and this season it ends in 1 month. Bad luck

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

maybe the silver lining is that we don't have to have false hope for three months? 😅

@guillermomunguia870 Месяц назад

Wow trout is actually early usually after the all-star. Game he's done for the season.🤦🏻‍♂️

@joshuab3715 Месяц назад

LIKE CLOCKWORK

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Hope making this comment and the ten likes is worth losing our best player.

@SeeBSNews. Месяц назад

@@LockedOnAngels With all your glazing, just change the channel name to, 'Locked on Mike Trout.'

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

@@SeeBSNews. Never seen you once comment on our videos before, but sure, the channel that has said several times this year "Mike Trout needs to get Mike Trout to the playoffs" is glazing. Get outta' here with your bozo Gen-Z talk 😂

@SeeBSNews. Месяц назад

@@LockedOnAngels Bozo Gen Z?!? You assumed all that from one comment? I was born in 77 btw. You absolute 🤡

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

@@SeeBSNews. Then grow up and don't use the word, glaze, weirdo.

@yukongoldy Месяц назад

I feel for Trout, because he loves playing, but at his age, I would take the surgery that will be more reliable in the long run, especially with a contract that last for six more years. Trout should be thinking of the long term. If the procedure that takes him out for the entire season is more reliable, he should really consider that, because it could become a yearly problem in the future if he doesn't. Some of the young players have been really stepping it up and in fact have been producing a lot more than Trout offensively in the last three weeks.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

As hard as it would be to lose a season of Trout, they really have to think about his longevity and health, especially like you said with 6 more years on that contract.

@bplim5285 Месяц назад

This training/conditioning staff is still awful. This season is long gone. Perry needs to flush the rentals, get a good return, call up some of the prospects (would like to see Caden Dana and Cole Fontenelle), then just maybe someone in the staff (hopefully arte or Perry) makes the right decision in investing in getting a strong strength and conditioning staff, that’s been our Achilles heel for the past 4-5 years, like I get the body wears down but there’s a point where a player has to limit themselves to prevent that injury, then eventually have the time to get back to being 100%. I know these guys have no expectations, but at the same time, but this is not what they need, they have a tough schedule ahead of them, I know that Washington is doing everything he can to win games, and Perry’s trying to do what he can with the 40-man. I just hope that they can be smart down the stretch, they may suck unfortunately (knock on wood), but I guess it’s part of the process, but I’m here for it. Go Halos

@user-sq6yn8pj9k Месяц назад

I think you have hit in a good point. Especially with Rendons hamstring. If he had a really good stretch out routine would this have happened?

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

They've changed the strength and conditioning staff several times, including this year. The only thing that's stayed the same is head athletic trainer Mike Frostad, but even then, who knows how much of the budget goes toward actual good conditioning coaches.

@je9237 Месяц назад

Do you think the Angels will sign a any good starting pitching next year ? Also , how about signing a good shortstop and a second baseman that can play defense?

@levisouder5777 Месяц назад

I agree that I think Trout should try and move to 1st. It seemed to help Harper with lessening the wear and tear

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

It really is time that they have that conversation with Trout. Something has got to give.

@user-we9lz5mv6j Месяц назад

Trout is out until probably until first of August, Rendon who knows, Silseth is out for a while. Time to bring up the Triple A guys and see what we have. I feel like we keep going this year after year.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Most of the guys worth a look and seeing what we have are going to be from AA. The AAA guys other than Bryce Teodosio are not very good and are simply veteran depth at this point.

@thomasjoseph3488 Месяц назад

Watched the game today, Wednesday. Heard about some roster moves. I don't get bringing in journeymen like Calhoun. Isn't this a time to evaluate new talent?

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

He was signed as depth piece before Spring. He's not our first choice either, but they're just looking for bodies at this point.

@thomasjoseph3488 Месяц назад

@@LockedOnAngels Right. It appears to exemplify the shallow farm system since this is an opportunity to get the youngsters some ABs. If not now, when?

@Stephaniefyh Месяц назад

I haven't even been to the first game of my season plan, and all of this has happened already! It just that the whole "more of the same" is just wearing me out. This team is like a house of cards just waiting for a good gust of wind to blow it over. To be sure, I am so sad for Mike. He's a gamer, and our leader, and it's so frustrating that he'll be gone for awhile. Watching all of our young core get playing time, develop, and see who steps up from that group will be what brings me to the ballpark, but I'm afraid the halo will be dark more than it will be lit up this season.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

It's not going to be an easy season, that's for sure. However, like you said, it's time to watch these young guys develop, as they'll be the centerpieces for the team for years to come!

@addicted2baseballrgd21 Месяц назад

Phillies did it with Bryce Harper, we need to do it with Trout. 1B or DH. We can rag on Estevez, but he wasn't even supposed to be the closer. Stephenson was injured before the season even started.

@seco4life1 Месяц назад

Agreed. Hopefully the fact Harper went to 1B, will help Trout mentally get over not playing CF. Load management didn’t work, let him play didn’t work, DH or 1B is the next logical step.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Something's got to give with Trout, for sure. Problem is, he's still gotta run the bases and that could've hurt his knee as well, but, no sense in putting added pressure in the outfield, like you mentioned.

@user-sq6yn8pj9k Месяц назад

Ragging on Estevez won't help us. He is our ace closer right now and maybe in the future. But understanding his limitations is really important. I don't want to be the fan expecting him to come out and close the 9th every night if he just isn't built like that. Fans want a Mariano Rivera type that can save every night , but if Estevez can't do that the Angels need to adjust the pen by adding more quality. See what it takes to get Mason Miller from the A's

@warbirdtbf Месяц назад

Trout's injury is so disappointing. He was on course to have a productive season and a comeback season. I wish him a speedy recovery. Secondly, what a terrible loss last night. Estévez totally collapsed. The Angels really needed to win the game. Now they've taken a huge step back. Estévez is not reliable.

@Ibhenriksen Месяц назад

I had no idea Trump played baseball.

@mattosso7676 Месяц назад

Players don't get healthier as they get older. Ever. ESPECIALLY if they have been dealing with 4 straight seasons of injuries. This is who he and Rendon are. Older players who have become injury prone.

@mattosso7676 Месяц назад

@@BillStemil I joked that they should reassign Rendon to Salt Lake until his contract is up. Since he doesn't really LOVE baseball and his family is his priority, maybe he would just give up and retire.😂

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

So many times they had this Phillies series within reach and they let it slip away. Snatching loss from the jaws of victory seems to be the way of this team right now.

@warbirdtbf Месяц назад

@@Ibhenriksen I fixed it. Darn Google keyboard. 👌

@pwnage13371 Месяц назад

the last week marked every spot on my angels baseball bingo card

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

😂it's sad, but also funny!

@mattosso7676 Месяц назад

Moreno can't use injuries as a talking point if he refuses to sign healthy players. Rendon hasn't been healthy since he signed with the Angels. And Trout has also struggled to stay healthy for 3 of the past 4 years. This will make 4 years in the last 5, that Trout will miss significant time to injuries. This is who the Angels are. This is who they have been for the last 5 years. Only now we don't have Ohtani to single-handedly keep us in games. THIS is EXACTLY WHY Minasian needed to go big during the free agency. And, yet, with the exception of a handful of relievers, Angels management decided to stand pat. This is a failure to not only break the pattern that has kept them from competing, but to see the big picture ENTIRELY. No, it's not due to some brilliant strategy that fans can't see. No, it's not a result of some advance analytics that fans don't understand. It's due to arrogance and being too cheap too want to field a competitive team. It's due to an owner who doesn't give a sh!t about winning. If he did, he would do what other teams do: pay money for free agents and try to compete to win. Instead of swinging for the fences, the Angels didn't even try. No, it's not that they went down looking. It's far worse: They checked their swing during free agency. They pretended to try to improve the team, but couldn't fully commit. So here we are. Again. Almost 30 games in and the Angels have the 5th worst record in MLB. (And that was with Trout's league-leading 10 HRs.) Rendon is injured and Trout is injured. So is Stephenson, the ONE free agent that was supposed to make an impact on the Angels W/L record. Sound familiar??? It should. Just watch any of the previous 4 seasons and it's like watching a rerun. Only without the most electrifying player to entertain and distract us from the ineptitude of a franchise that is content to lay dormant in the mud and filth at the bottom of the league. By the time Trout returns, the season will be over. Hell, it's ALREADY over. So why even bother?? We all knew this year was going to bed a challenge. And we all knew that it was "iffy: that both Rendon and Trout would make it through the entire season. But this has been worse than any of us could've predicted. Realistically, this is likely going to the first year in Angels' history, where the team loses 100 games. All the hopeium in the world can't save a franchise with an owner who seems content to just make his money and go home. It's almost as if he HATES his own team and his own fans and is INTENT on punishing them year after year after year after year. It all starts at the top. As long as Moreno owns this team, this is what we can expect every season. Sorry for the long rant, didn't expect to write this much. But as a lifelong Angels fan, I needed to purge myself.

@je9237 Месяц назад

Same old angels. Done by May 1st.

@mattosso7676 Месяц назад

@@je9237 Sadly.

@14automan Месяц назад

The MIKE TROUT era is over. The best thing to do is to get really bad and get high draft picks. Every season we get a Mike Trout injury that ends up being season ending. This is sad. Please trade Trout for anything you can get when he recovers.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Trout's got to want to be traded, and that's a big part of the equation with his no-trade clause. However, the Angels have a lot of expendable players come the trade deadline that they should be able to get some decent pieces back when the time comes.

@thomasjoseph3488 Месяц назад

I hear what Mike is saying about using the big injuries as excuses. But, but.... having $75 million on the shelf is a real, substantial obstacle for any team.

@kylebarnhart3891 Месяц назад

2 players on IL make 75 million. Oakland A's entire payroll 60 million. A's have a better record ☹️

@thomasjoseph3488 Месяц назад

@@kylebarnhart3891 Yes, and less than $100m total payroll for my Marlins in the opposite end.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

It's true, TJ, it's just a shame that it's got to go down this way, especially when they had a lot more payroll space this year with Ohtani off the books and they didn't do anything to replace it.

@user-sq6yn8pj9k Месяц назад

Bro's. My theory is keep the powder dry. I see corbin burnes next year or Jordan Montgomery. Fact is our starters have been pretty good. Imagine the drama of blowing say 33 million on Snell + Rendon + Trout IL stints.

@thomasjoseph3488 Месяц назад

@@user-sq6yn8pj9k 💯

@CVBASEBALLCARDCOLLECTOR Месяц назад

NOW the new horses need to step ip!

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

They definitely have the chance to step up now and have the ability to score enough runs. Today was a disaster of an example though with their inability to drive in runners when they had every opportunity to do so. That's GOT to change.

@user-sq6yn8pj9k Месяц назад

The Angels always seem dishonest on reporting how long players will be on the IL. I expected Silseth back this month. Torn meniscus from what I read should be 90 days, but Angels management will probably say 6-8 weeks. We have some of our best players out for a long time. So "no expectations " will come down to dont expect to see all-star play till they return. Even then expecting Trout and Rendon to come back in top form is asking too much. The idea of Arte doing a huge teardown because he is sour grapes over his largest contracts spending the season on the bench seems real to me. So I struggle with the idea of whether the Angels can use this year to make necessary trades and free agency next year to have a respectable team next year. Or should we go into what the Orioles did 5 years ago where they did a complete rebuild from the bottom up. The Orioles pulled off nothing short of magic, where their entire system is A+ on a low payroll. That type of build needs a great architect and I dont know that Minassian alone could do that.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Hey Tony, some of the IL stints can be retroactive to when they first were hurt, so in Siliseth's case, the timing of his rehab starts should line up with the end of his 60-Day stint. As far as Trout, it seems like they might be opting for that short-term solution we talked about on the show today, and who knows if that's the right move or not, especially for Trout's longevity.

@user-sq6yn8pj9k Месяц назад

The short-term solution surgery, I would think at best a 45-day IL before return . But thank you guys for explaining short versus Long term surgery options. So the flip side of Mike being out is that I am hoping to see Jake marisnick who I like. But it sounds like Pillar may be the fill-in . Aaron hicks never met anybodys's expectations, and I am glad to see Adell playing every day and doing well with the bat.

@hashzbedu2-23 Месяц назад

Knee stuff 🥶 high possibly gone for the rest of the season

@mikemurray1506 Месяц назад

Just as I mentioned on Monday's episode, I didn't trust Estevez as a closer. Also in past episodes I thought that they should have kept Jake Mariznick. Now Trout is injured, also the cutting of Hicks, this is a perfect time to bring back Mariznick. Adell, Ward, and Mariznick should be the daily set outfield lineup, with Moniak as the rotating player. On the closer role. Matt Moore should be considered. Soriano would have been a nice choice, but Silseth's return is a question mark. Sandoval also isn't cutting it as a starter so Soriano is also needed to start.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Unfortunately, Mariznick has been on the injured list in AAA. He's someone we think would do well at the Major League level, but we'll have to wait and see what happens there.

@dalethums8418 Месяц назад

GREAT NEWS! IT IS NOW OFFICIALLY FOOTBALL SEASON 😢

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Don't bail on us yet, Dale!

@ajamusic7322 Месяц назад

Trout injured, because we werent bad enough. Estevez won me overlast season with his solid first half. The later half and outings like last night is losing me supporting him as our closer. I think Adel and Rengifo are showing up now

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

It's definitely going to be time for the young guys to step up in Trout's absence. They have the ability to score enough runs as long as the pitching doesn't give away the game, but they've all got to find a way to be better with runners in scoring position.

@normanobrien2323 Месяц назад

This gives the kids the chance to get AB's every day in the outfield with Ward, Moniak and Adell. Also could now be the time to use Matt Moore as a closer ? Back to back use of Estevez does not seem to work.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Makes you wonder if they'll make any back of the bullpen decisions soon. Estevez just can't seem to handle the responsibility.

@phillyray77 Месяц назад

Jon are you still sick? Your voice sounds different

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

I’ve been having really bad congestion and pressure on my ears, so nothing sounds right to me right now, including my own voice. Everything sounds high pitched to me 😬 But, hoping it clears up soon! I’ve been through the ringer the last three weeks 😅 - Jon

@CVBASEBALLCARDCOLLECTOR Месяц назад

Snake bite

@user-sq6yn8pj9k Месяц назад

Not being able to rely on Estevez or some other bullpen guys for back to back outings is a real problem. Some teams get lucky and have a Trevor Hoffman that rolls out day after day. . So we didn't build enough quality depth to allow Estevez to take every other day off or for Matt Moore to only pitch 1 inning every other day. I like our starting rotation except Sandoval. Solid starts for the most part. But we aren't going to get 6 innings of shutout baseball from these guys every week. That means we need a very good bullpen to back up the good starts we get plus the fact our run production is more average than extraordinary for the foreseeable future

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Not having Robert Stephenson left a huge hole in the bullpen, for sure. Zuñiga has been out for a while now, and Cisnero is also on the IL. Cisnero has not been what they've needed him to be, as he hasn't handled high-leverage situations well at all.

@user-sq6yn8pj9k Месяц назад

problem is the horse is out of the barn Rendon is back on the IL The idea of building the organization from the bottom up applies here. Training staff A1 important. I think Washington and the new coaching staff are a good start on a fundamental rebuild but there is more to do

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

They definitely have a long way to go, for sure.

@MessipawPress Месяц назад

To me this is year zero of a rebuild, the angels should trade everyone, outside of Trout and Rendon (since they are stuck with him) over 30 at the trade deadline to try to replenish their farm system and play the young kids as much as possible. Rengifo, Neto, Schanuel, O’Hoppe, Adell, Detmers, those are the cornerstones they need to continue to build around and for me I want Trout in an Angels uni for life like Jeter. They have to do it the right way

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

They have a lot of viable trade options come the deadline, especially out of the pen and someone like Drury, possibly even Tyler Anderson if he continues to have the season he is having. They could really net some good pieces back and maybe find a nice surprise like KC did trading Chapman for Ragens.

@billmorton7720 Месяц назад

Hi Mike and Jon !! Thank you for a great show that doesn't sugar coat what we all are feeling ! Frustrating and disappointing to hear Trout's torn meniscus news. I just keep shaking my head and can't believe, here we go again. Hopefully Mike's back by the All Star break, most importantly is not to push it and return when he's 1000% healthy. Mike like your family, my wife has had torn meniscus in each knee and had surgery. She still struggles with it, not any fun. After Mike's news, we all are down and the way last nights game got away from us just feels like baseball karma is kicking us all when we're hurting and upset. Guys, 1000+% agree with you that no one in the dugout knew Estevev had such a horrible record in back to back games or 4 out saves ?????? In the age of tech analysis of everything and this was allowed to happen ??? Wow !! Wash, please let Moniak be our centerfielder while Mike is recovering. He needs every day at bats to get his swing back. We saw what he can do last season when given an opportunity. Yes, have a day off when a tough lefty is pitching but no more b.s. that happened with Hicks here. Today's game Sandoval vs Wheeler. Wow !!!!! Patrick you gotta step up right now, you're facing one of the elite pitchers in MLB. Everyone we gotta stay strong, yes we are really hurting and upset but we gotta dig deep and stay positive and enjoy what Angel wins and bright spots we get. Sincerely I can enjoy this season ??? If we can play the kids every day and watch their growth. The 2024 season is a re build, I don't care what baloney Arte and the upper management call it. Angels fans aren't stupid, we know what's going on with our team and what's needed to improve. Take good care everyone, we will have better days. I know we're hurting. Go Angels !!!!

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Thanks for your thoughts, Bill! It seems that we'll be getting to see the young players get the opportunity they deserve since these injuries have occurred. It's the one thing we can look forward to as we watch them learn and grow this season.

@jjmailman Месяц назад

Moniak looked so uncomfortable during the whole game yesterday, especially at the plate! It was like he really wasn’t ready to step up, and then forced his at bats. His attitude seemed like “Oh God - Now *I* have to be Mike Trout” instead of just being Mickey Moniak. There was a lot of mental weakness shown during his “at bats”.

@mikes7446 Месяц назад

He hasn't been good at all this season.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

He could benefit from having some consistency at the plate, which he really hasn't gotten so far this season with how much Hicks was playing over him. At this point, it might be a similar scenario to Jo Adell where in a week or two after some consistent ABs, he'll start to find his groove at the plate.

@Luclidity Месяц назад

Not that this fixes it, but we really do need a better medical staff.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

It's frustrating because they've had lots of turnover in that department other than head athletic trainer Mike Frostad. Who knows how much the Angels are budgeting for competent medical and training staff thought.

@jackm4457 Месяц назад

ah shT.... just as the painful memory of the "AL-batross" contract was fading away, we now have to watch another of the baseball greats age poorly. The only difference (and it's a big one) is that Mike's glory years were for the Halos.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

The big difference between Trout and Pujols is that Trout continues to be productive when he's on the field and at the plate. Sure he had a slump before he got hurt, but that disregards the way he started the season and also the fact that none of his metrics are declining in the way most older bats do. It's purely a matter of staying on the field for him now.

@SeeBSNews. Месяц назад

@@LockedOnAngels His AVG with RISP last year was barely .200, and it's worst this year. Stop making excuses.

@jackm4457 Месяц назад

@@LockedOnAngels Even if Trout is able to come back from injury to play this year, his cumulative WAR for the past 5 years won't equal Albert's WAR in his first 5 years with the Angels -- and Pujols was 4 years older (probably 6 yrs older.) So, is your point that the BIG Difference is that Trout's injuries are severe enough to keep him off the field, entirely, while Albert's injuries -- plantar fasciatis -- allowed him to play at less than 100%?? That part is not in Mike's advantage, IMO.

@castmemberadventures Месяц назад

If you’re a true angels fan you’d agree that we suck.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

I mean, there's aspects of the team that definitely suck right now, but as a whole team, well, they were right there in those games with one of the best in all of baseball!

@kylebarnhart3891 Месяц назад

So sad for Trout😢. Leading the league in homeruns, he was on pace to hit career number 400. My thoughts were the same, they need to move him to 1B or DH. Unfortunately Angels arent doing anything this season, no reason to rush him back by July. I would sit him out the rest of the season. Bring up Rada to take over CF

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

In the same vein as not rushing Trout back, there really isn't a need to rush Nelson Rada up the Majors at this point. He's just now moved to AA this year, and he's the kind of player who's development you don't want to compromise by rushing up when there isn't a significant reason to do so at this point.

@jeffjones8866 Месяц назад

Trout needs to just DH when he gets back. Maybe for the rest of his career.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

It's a conversation they're definitely going to need to have, for sure.

@erkbzr Месяц назад

Send Estevez to the Dodgers and watch them turn water 💧 into wine 🍷

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

He'll definitely be on the trade block when the time comes!

@xozzyx319 Месяц назад

trout gonna win a ring like acuna on the bench

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Now you're talking! 😂

@charlesdinkel408 Месяц назад

Jon we know.... you aren't sick, your voice is gone because you've been crying. Sobbing, screaming, singing through a stream a tears with a bottle of whiskey. Big man sobs aka fight club... just let it rain. Seriously though, this Trout news is heartbreaking. Trout started his pro career very early, his body was able to generate tremendous torque and power and speed for a decade, but he's unable to stay healthy at this juncture in his career and we might have to accept that he has already given us all that he can, career wise. His body is broken because he carried this team on his back for a decade, he carried the dead weight of albert pujols, he carried Rendon's carcass, he carried the bloated overrated dysfunctional ego of Arte Moreno, he carried 3 million fan experiences per year, all the expectations with none of the support.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

It might just be the new reality that Trout is going to be productive... when he's on the field. Now we'll have to consider some built-in lost time each season that he's with the Halos, unfortunately.

@simon9285 Месяц назад

Over the last 10 years are the Angels the worst team at leaving men in scoring position?

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

That's gotta be something worth looking into!

@teemoney5970 Месяц назад

Only 29 games mike trout

@seekthao Месяц назад

Adell should not be allowed to steal bases anymore. None. No. No more. Nada.

@addicted2baseballrgd21 Месяц назад

Like Wash said in a prior game "got to get the bag"

@bretthutchison9245 Месяц назад

Agreed. Horrible base runner who has no speed

@frannypack8879 Месяц назад

Honestly you can't expect to develop the kids without letting them play and make dumb mistakes. It's just part of the process.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Why do you say that?

@seekthao Месяц назад

@@frannypack8879 There needs to be limits and he’s had enough mistakes. He’s running now for no good reason at all, got caught 5 times (1 was game ending being 1 run behind and the other could have affected the outcome last night). This was all in less than 30 days. Come on now.

@thomasjoseph3488 Месяц назад

Life ain't fair. This stinks. Hang in there, Angel fans.

@josezanora2022 Месяц назад

Esteves is fools good... point blank period

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Feels like it. Any other closer can go back-to-back nights and he should too.

@NobleRain_ Месяц назад

As much as it pains me to say it and I’ve been against it but I believe it’s time to trade mike trout while he still has some value its better than nothing and it will relieve the pressure of if trout will get hurt. Not much u can say for rendon u can only hope he comes back and plays more games or retires but imo It’s time for a full rebuild, it would have been better if it was before the beginning of this year but now is better than not while wash and the coaching staff is here to get the most out of a full roster of young players would love it if we can draft some really good young college players and let them develop in the minors and try not to call them up so soon. But as we all know in the end arte won’t let this happen he’s always against rebuilds.

@onnaquunevie9530 Месяц назад

Even if we can do that, we can say he will always be an Angel. And that may be the happiest way for us and him.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Trout's going to have to want a trade, as he has a full no-trade clause, so he's got to be part of that decision as well. He was building his stock back up before this knee injury, but again, it's entirely up to him at this point.

@mattosso7676 Месяц назад

@@LockedOnAngelsNot only that, but with his age, injury history, contract and NOW suffering a meniscus...he may not have much trade value left.

@theentity9120 Месяц назад

Mike Trout is just another Ken Griffey jr. two guys with so much talent that could’ve changed the world of baseball but got cursed with the injury prone bug

@simondaughtry4619 Месяц назад

When he was stealing bases this season.... I was dumbfounded....its a numbskull operation the Angel's formula.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

He hasn't stolen very many bases over the last few years and still got hurt, so there's not a lot of logic to that point.

@GareksApprentice Месяц назад

Assorted thoughts: - We all want to see what these young guys are capable of. All offseason long it was "Let the kids play" and "Assess what they got". Barring injury, we're gonna get a very good look at them over the next few months. Very few thought they were gonna be in contention anyway. No expectations, right? - Since the front office emphasized a healthy Trout and Rendon as the centerpieces for a competitive season, does this mean they'll finally drop the charade and call it what it is, a rebuild season? Listening to Angels Radio after the game, that narrative might already be forming (Without saying the dreaded R word, of course). - No disrespect for Trout. The injury sucks. But I'm tired of how its almost an Angels Season of Mourning the instant he's put on the IL. Same thing last August when he and Ohtani were put on the IL together and fans treated it like one of the worst days in franchise history. I long for the days when the season isn't declared over because one player is hurt. - Crowds might be more interesting now. Ohtani fans largely bailed months ago. Perhaps we'll be seeing more O'Hoppe / Neto jerseys in the crowd and less Trout jerseys? As someone who wants the organization to promote the young guys more, perhaps this will force them to do that. On that note, a bittersweet coincidence that Trout's placed on the IL the same day as Logan O'Hoppe bobblehead night.

@bhbecca Месяц назад

Oh, we're gonna get a good look at a lot of marginal young guys, you're right. Beyond Adell, O'Hoppe, Schanuel, Neto and maybe Moniak and Detmers, who are the other young guns? All that starting pitching we drafted? Signed? Who? This team is a mess. Moreno needs to have a 'Yard Sale' soon before it becomes a 'Fire Sale'.

@sonnycarter8447 Месяц назад

Let the fun begin.. $75 Mil+ in salary already at home.. So the answer. A guy who was just released by a team that is 6-24.. See ya next year..!! 110 losses, I still stand by it..

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Don't think anyone is clamoring for Pillar to be the "answer"; they need a fourth outfielder right now, and he gave Ward a day off his feet for the first time this season in today's game. That's when you're going to find him in the lineup.

@eddievaldez2155 Месяц назад

winning lineup rengifo adell trout ward rendon ohappe sano shaunel neto I GUARANTEE WINS

@mattosso7676 Месяц назад

Yeah. 11 wins. In 30 games. lol

@eddievaldez2155 Месяц назад

@@mattosso7676 not if they take advantage of their young speedsters

@mattosso7676 Месяц назад

@@eddievaldez2155They don't really have any burners. Rengifo leads the team in stolen bases and he's not exactly Ricky Henderson. 😂 Adell is probably the most athletic player on the team, but aside from them there is no speed. Neto, Moniak, Ward and O'Hoppe are average. Schanuel, Sano and Drury are slow. So aside from Rengifo and Adell, this team has average speed across the board.

@eddievaldez2155 Месяц назад

@@mattosso7676 THATS WHY THEY SHOULD BAT IN THE TOP OF THE LINE UP THAT WOULD BE MORE RUNS

@mattosso7676 Месяц назад

@@eddievaldez2155 Having those guys at the top of the lineup imight be a good idea in theory. But with Rendon and Trout out, the lineup you presented is moot. I like Rengifo as the lead off. But the issue is, after Adell, you have a dilemma. If you want speed, you go with Neto at 3. But Neto is batting .229 with 35 SO. So he can't be counted on to even get on base. Or do you go with Schanuel, show is slow as molasses, but is a better hitter than Neto. Or do you go with Ward at 3, who is there best overall hitter with the most HRs and RBIs? If you do that, who bats cleanup? O'Hoppe, who is more of a contact hitter, than a power hitter. And if he is batting clean up, the who can protect him in the lineup. Schanuel? Drury? Moniak? Sano? Tucker?Pillar? Calhoun? Doesn't matter how you shuffle the lineup, there's just not enough talent to take advantage of the TWO players on the team that have speed.

@teemoney5970 Месяц назад

I know something was wrong put him at DH for ever now

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

It certainly alleviates any injury risk by not putting him in the outfield, but he's still gotta run the bases, even at DH. There's not a clear answer for Trout right now.

@bretthutchison9245 Месяц назад

This team is truly cursed. Every year it's the same thing.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

It's just cruel at this point, Brett!

@Ibhenriksen Месяц назад

Griffey 2.0

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

It's starting to look that way.

@nathandalebout7523 Месяц назад

White flag 🏳️

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Never surrender!!!

@rollwithdynamite Месяц назад

this is.. really not good. we lost ohtani to the Dodgers... our bullpen gives up 10 runs a game... Our closer cant close a fridge door... Rendon refuses to like baseball... Our best player and heart of the team is undergoing knee surgery and likely will be on the IL until weeks after the all star game... and the team is owned by Arte Moreno. looking on the bright side; as long as there is baseball, we still have a chance. 👍 i hate to say it. but i like Mike Trout too much to see him being used this way for ticket sales. he needs to request a trade. ASAP. loyalty only works if its reciprocated. and Trout has been trying his heart out for 15 years!! and in that time, single handedly made this organization millions of dollars, while gifting the halo fans basket fulls of excitement and unforgettable moments along with the pride of having the goat on our team, because lets face it no ones been watching to witness the greatness thats happening in the bullpen, and all hes been getting in return is halfassery from upper management. he has earned the loyalty of the fans and while the angels organization wont follow him wherever he goes., the fans will! you can tell he's hit rock bottom by his interview. if this isnt his last year putting up with this bull, id be very suprised. here's a hint Mike. Stay in LA.🧢

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

It'll be interesting to see how it plays out with Trout. He really wanted to help this team go somewhere this year, and while they've been skidding to start the season, there's plenty of baseball left, but a lot of it's going to be played without him, unfortunately.

@ydg8915 Месяц назад

Why this golf businessman got hurt so early this season there is no more selfish player lock on DH?

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Not sure what you're trying to say but if Trout was even a full-time DH, he'd still have to run the bases and this could've happened there too.

@davidvargas8489 Месяц назад

injuries from last night and last year golf related.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Even the knee issue? Knew that the hamate bone one was a common golf injury, but didn't realize the mensicus could be too.

@gregoryantoniono3673 Месяц назад

I have a migraine. WTH? Another year of this nonsense? Are we the unluckiest team ever?

@user-sq6yn8pj9k Месяц назад

Luck is a roll of the dice. But good planning and a deep well developed farm system overcomes bad luck. For the Angels it seems we go to the waiver wires. Bringing in Jake Marisnick for Trout makes sense to me and instead they get Kevin Pillar?

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Feels like it, Gregory. 😔 By the way, thanks for the kind words while I was out! - Jon

@gregoryantoniono3673 Месяц назад

Cut Aaron Hicks & sign Kevin Pillar. Makes total Angels sense.

@timmusic7348 Месяц назад

Trot blows every year. He can now golf all day, again, while collecting 30M plus.

@LockedOnAngels Месяц назад

Not doing a lot of golfing from the dugout where he's there supporting his teammates. Sorry he personally took your $30 million you paid him.

@tomsmith522 Месяц назад

Sorry Trout is hurt...he is the angels... but he has been hurt for the last 3 years and now he is going to be out for most of the year... he is not a MVP player anymore and the angels should have traded him before this season started . Now he's untradable.. he reminds me of Fred Lynn who was a great player but was always hurt , this is what Trout is now a player who is always hurt 🤕... and without him the angels are now the worst team with the worst owner.. 100plus losses this year case closed 🔐😢

@GareksApprentice Месяц назад

"And without him the angels are now the worst team with the worst owner." Gotta feeling there's plenty of White Sox fans who would vehemently disagree with that statement

@frannypack8879 Месяц назад

Even before this season Trout's value wasn't that high. He's been injured for the past couple years already, and no team is going to want to take up his large contract.