Mikey is the glue of this family 

Right ^^ And Raph is the muscle and Leo's the face

@@hanakosan4404 id wager raph is more than the muscle... But alright.

@@blankedeye1451 Raph is the shield. Protective and can smash stuff.

I love the fact that you didn t say the "brain" but the one and only braincell lmaooo fit pretty well-

@@blankedeye1451 You're right. I was following the body organs theme but Raph has much more to himself than his physical strength, that's right

Lol same

What is kin???

@@thelostdeadkid Kinning a character means to heavily relate to them.

@@voidpunkhours1133 ouh thank you

I have doctor delicate touch in me

Their*

And every mikey needs a mikey, the loop continues

I am the Mikey... which makes a lot of sense.

@@TheWr13r thank you, english isn't my first language

I've never watched any of the other iterations before, but from what I've gathered, in the 2012 version at least, mikey is regularly belittled, dismissed and verbally/emotionally abused by his brothers throughout the series. While we see raph infantilise him a bit here, that's purely out of concern and not because he doesn't think Mikey can do things on his own. We really get to see him be himself, as a confident, emotionally intelligent, acrobatic artist because he was brought up in such a positive and supportive environment :) Him strong-arming draxum's redemption though... I get its necessity plot wise, but it still wasn't really deserved. Anyway, love this version of *everyone*. Mikey may be my least favourite but I still love him just as much as the others!

@@blankedeye1451 I suggest you to watch all the cartoons, depending on the tone you prefer. They're all pretty good in their own ways. Yeah, the Draxum redemption didn't felt really earned. I guess the showrunners only had to make it happened fast, being so restricted in number of episodes (😢) And yup, except for Donnie, right now, I can't think of any moments where Leo and especially Raph weren't unnecessarily dismissive or downright mean to Mikey in the 2012 series, especially past the third season. Rise is overall my favourite TMNT show and I honestly can't wait to finally get Netflix to see the movie (no spoilers please)

YES! even when I really love the 2012 version (mostly due to nostalgia cuz I grew up with it) I’m in love with this Mikey, I remember the first time I watched ROTTMNT, I thought “Oh, he’s actually… useful” Not that 2012 Mikey was useless, but his brothers made it look like he was, and in the 2018 version, his brothers respect him, listen to him and show him love. Mikey is smart and his bros never make him feels that’s he’s not, but they still look after him and are overprotective cuz he’s their kid brother and that’s normal. All the relationships in this version are really healthy AND I’M HERE FOR IT

Rise Mikey is the most emotionally intelligent, Rise Donnie is the most factually intelligent. It’s a match made in heaven.

I agree with you, this version of Raph and Mickey is way better in my opinion. Raph is no longer the hot-headed one that gets into fights with everyone, he is somewhat level-headed and tries to figure out other ways to solve issues. As for Mickey, he isn't that dumb. He has common sense and he is very level-headed and optimistic.

morally? sir did i hear morally? dr delicate touch would like to have a word

The thing is, Shredder did get his redemption in rottmnt so Mikey would probably try to help 2012 Shredder too(

@@rustygateofme There’s kind of a difference between being conscious of your actions and being influenced by a cursed armour. And the “redemption” took place after he murdered his daughter. Honestly, it’s more like an exorcism which he ultimately died from. Or being put out of his misery like Old Yeller. Finally, maybe we shouldn’t put the pressure on the 13 year old to redeem grown men when the only one who can do that is themselves. And also because the people they affected may never move on due to a lack of closure.

There may not be a 2012 crossover series... But there are plenty crossover fics lol

To be fair I think showrunner planned a seasons worth of redemption arc but have to rush it due tk you know...Nickelodeon.

@@berilsevvalbekret772 Oh I am aware. Unfortunately, what was present was rather.. dubious at best. I mean, if there was an episode where Draxum had to make an anti ooze, that would’ve been at least something.

Yes! When Mikey was having dinner with Baron Draxum he talked like a mom.

I’d argue Mikey is the most mature out of everyone for his age but aight-

@@redballoon9007 Yeah, Mikey seems very mature for his age next to Raph. Even though Mikey has his moments where he does things without thinking, he knows how to handle family conflict.

@@redballoon9007 He did grow up watching all the ways his brothers have messed up so he now gets to benefit from their experience.

You think keep can be bipolar or is he just depressed? But so far we have ADHD Michelangelo, Autistic Donatello, and from what I gather egotistical insecure immature manic depressed Leonardo. If Raph the only one without some type of deficiency??

this is one of the reasons why i kin mikey

Omg! Same! Yes, exactly!

@@ToxicMayhem we’re people people lol

Does he have it in Rise too?? I wasn't sure if it was canon or not

I'll take both

SRSLY LIKE A WHOLE FUCKING SKYSCRAPER

yup and a bus #amazingMysticmikey!!🐢🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡

He definitely needs to grow up more before even begining to take on leadership qualities, he has potential, just needs to mature and get proper training

@@BunnyStarTelevision like Leo was?? I think not.

lmao ironic isn’t it

Hahaha turtle neck...go gosh oh oh irony hahaha 🤣 God is good hallelujah onto thee Jehovah Jirah thy Father 🙏🏽❤️🙏🏿🙌🏾✝️🙌🏾✝️🍷🍞🔥🐟

If you're familiar with the comics, you'd know that none were jokers at all. They changed that and gave them 4 a complete overhaul making them way more likeable and kids friendly. Then through out the years this had gotten to the point of being way too silly even back in the 90s (Tmnt 2). The seriousness and hostility and violence was dropped for sillyness slap-stick comedy and fun. I'd seriously be interested in seeing a series or movie of the original Turtles from the comics (the earlier ones before it went south with the unbelievable and bizarre). I'm more grounded, and though triceratons rock-soldiers the kraang are ok.. that's how far I'd go with the sci-fi. Though I don't mind the zany, like the Bruce Lee Hun of the purple dragons, and Bebop and Rocksteady. But the 2003 went way overboard, as did the 1986 red sky episodes, in the stupidity and I didn't like it at all.

I thought Splinter would cycle the leadership through his sons as they needed to grow and develop.

lmk if you find out where to get one. i want 20 mikeys 😭💖

Thank you ❤️

Oh my gosh same 😳 i have already watched rise tmnt 3 times in a row...that is just not healthy. I need a season 3 and more!!😭

yup BABY!!!🐢🧡🧡🧡🧡

well i mean he *is*

You're just the previous 2012 I'm assuming. My in aaalll the way back to the 1986 cartoon. I didn't like this at all, but as I'm watching the clips they are starting to seem ok.. especially with the autistic Donatello and Adhd Michelangelo. I get why they made Leonardo insecure egotistical immature and depressed.. can I say bipolar here?? And Raph being the oldest, as I've ALWAYS assumed he was in every show and movie, was the natural head of his siblings as the elder. This explains why he was always rebellious and hostile with Leo. And this explains his being more loner and his own company too. But his anger I see they dropped. In the comics all were antisocial violent and hostile, who lived in the shadows and went after Shredder purely for revenge for Splinter's mutation. That was true while existence. Later on they became crime fighters and relaxed a bit with humans to interact with them. So even then they eventually were watered down, though I hate what some comics did to them or how overboard they went. But this is all versions.. sadly. I'd not mind a movie of the original comics Tmnt, where they mutate, grow up, are trained, then hunt down and go after the Shredder. The dark gritty Turtles we never got to see on the screen.

@@k-dogg9086 yeah that'd be cool.

Did you already watched Rise? 👀

same

The original comics Turtles did, in the very beginning, before they too were watered down and censored, they were very antisocial, hostile, and violent. They were crude rude sarcastic and didn't care. They drank smoked cursed and gorged on food. They were very good skilled and fast fighters, and were the most 'ninja' of any version out there. They were the shortest but stocky and strong. They had the same colour bandanas.. red I think. They decimated Shredder in the first episode, very brutally btw, and forced him to honour kill himself with Leo giving the final fatal blow. How would these guys do on the big screen in a movie?? I'd be interested. They certainly were not pc "kid-friendly" silly comedic "emotionally sensitive" or goofy. Nor were they the type that would seem "normal" "tame" or even "safe" to society, especially this "soft and sensitive" generation of people. Yet later in as they mellowed a bit they had human friends, April and Casey being the closest and two original. First they had the mission to hunt Shredder (Saki Oroku) to avenge Yoshi Hamato. That was their whole existence to repay those that mutated them in the first place. Later they became crime fighter vigilantes against the purple dragons, and too, as they found out more about the ooze and the kraang later on. This would be cool to watch. Def different from what we've seen, though story wise already known; just the Turtles were way more mature and serious, and thus, different. These guys were tough and hard.

@@k-dogg9086 all I said was that it's funny what people have to do to get the video from getting banished to being on RU-vid kids, not for this fan base in specific but just in general for any animated media Thanks for the lore, but you didn't have to go out of your way to comment what appears to be a short essay on how dark the origins are. I'm confused as to what prompted this. Also please know I bear no hostility to you, I'm genuinely confused.

@@mysteriousmimick5172 you mentioned swearing so I thought I'd tell you that the Original Turtles (or Turtles Prime.. see, I'm doing it again so I'll stop short.. lol) they cussed as well. I'm a journalist at heart and love detail and a good story. Sorry Pal. 😊

@@k-dogg9086 usually when people respond with such long paragraphs they're upset, so I panicked a little as this didn't allign with typical internet behavioral patterns im familar with. Thank you for confirming you are not upset with me. Also, I'm in the process of checking out the rest of the franchise right now, and your explanation has served to make me even more interested in seeing how it has evolved through the decades. What has been changed and what has remained consistent is something I always love to explore in any series! I'm sorry for potentially coming off as rude. Thank you for taking the time to respond.

@@mysteriousmimick5172 why would you assume I was angry or something?? This is online dude. But I'm glad I calmed your worries. You have a good one Bro

I will not be bamboozeled again!!!

SRSLY LIKE MY MOM AND DAD DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT

oh that’s so cool! which are you? :)

@@aarasko ✨ m i k e y ✨ 😂

The thing that annoys me the most is them flagging all cartoon content as "for kids"