@@ReturnofBojangles-zt4vo guy was talking about video length being 4:20 because 420 is a funny haha number, not his performance, miles aged out with the blue devils in like 2018.
Not sure if anyone is going to get around to reading this, but for what it's worth... The cut out rims are intended more as a learning tool than a practical "scrape crutch". When you play scrapes you naturally rebound off the head enough to get over the rim. You hit the rim when you come down on it vertically, and there is still metal where the cut outs are. Therefore, it is still very possible to hit rim. People keep dissing the user for either hitting rim even when "there are none", or they diss the user for not hitting rim because "there are none". I'm sure many people are hating for the sake of hating, but it's simply not true. Take it from the guy who has used these drums more than anyone in the world. They're not perfect, but give it a break please. Miles is the best quad player I have ever marched with. When you hear him play scrapes and not hit rim, it's because his accuracy is way better than any Call of Duty MLG (not sure if that's saying much). Trust me, if I played my I&E on these drums, I'd still start as many fires as I did on the Pearls
The way i see it, i feel like if it was used as a learning tool then why should it be used by a top tier drum corp that knows what they're doing. Just something to think about. Also might I ask, what corps did you march and what did you play? Not trying to jab at you or anything, just curious.
Mark, I should have also included that despite what I said, there are slight benefits to using it. For the music that we play at the Blue Devils, we do benefit slightly from using the cut outs due to the nature of how we play and the music we perform. At some point, we may miss the rim due to the cut out because we play low scrapes and play with a lot of motion. But those moments are seldom. If those moments were more frequent we would definitely hit less rim but as the videos show, we definitely catch metal here and there. Like I said previously, the nature of playing scrapes and scrape-like arounds still make it very possible to hit rim despite the cut outs. So yes we use them because we do benefit from them to a small extent. But we are also still learning, and using the cut outs as a learning tool is not above us by any means. We are far from perfect outselves. I see your point though thank you for that.
And to answer your other questions I play quads. I marched with the Blue Knights 12-13, Blue Devils 15-17. Thanks for not being aggresive with your comment :)
RebuffedAsh I still don't understand how miles lost last year. No disrespect to the winner last year but in my opinion miles just blew him out of the water.
Okay all you guys throwin shade, I wanna see you guys play this shit. Regardless with rims or no rims he's still playing really really difficult material. He's expressing himself through an art form that 99% of earth's population doesn't even know about. No matter what, he has real courage to even go up there and play just one note. All you guys just talkin shit just run your mouth. How about you fuckin play what he's playing and actually have the chops to join a world class drum corps then maybe you can say something. But you dont see anyone in this thread from BD Coats SVC etc. talkin shit. You know why? Because they understand how difficult it is to be in drum corps alone and then to add an I&E solo you have to write and learn while you're on tour, I don't even know what that's like. I most you don't even know what it's like to do this. So what if he hits rims. EVERY I&E someone hits rim atleast a couple times. Get the fuck over it. How about instead of talking shit, go fuckin practice and be like them if you think it's so fuckin easy. Cuz when you aren't allowed to march anymore it's going to fucking suck. You're gonna miss it so bad that all you can do is watch videos and just remember the feeling you get when you're with a line.
System blue is good, but their tenors aren’t very good sounding. The rim cutouts are a cool idea, but you can audibly hear the difference in sound quality from regular rims. I would personally get Yamaha with the corps clear. They sound amazing with really good clarity and not much overtone. Every other drum of theirs is really good though
One thing I have noticed on the cut rims is the presence of more overtones and sounding more "live" to my ears. I like the open sound from these drums.
Hell of a solo Miles I loved it. Glad you got first and no matter with rims or not I think it was a great solo. Seriously both of his BD solos videos are full of hate comments about "Oh shit that's so easy cuz there's no rims" and "that's cheating" but I read @Ghost 17's comment a little further down and I can agree with him. If it's so easy to play with out rims stop giving shit and go make a solo yourself, and at least try to under stand how difficult DCI can be
Diego Aviles 1243 i think it’s cheating but that doesn’t mean it’s easy. Scrapes, and certain cross overs are pretty hard, and even without the rims, can sound really bad if you don’t have proper technique. The reason I say it’s cheating however is that it’s a pretty unfair advantage; I don’t see any other drum corps without rims, and I’d say either all of them have to have no rims, or none of them have to have no rims.
@@0Aquamelon This is two years late, but as someone who marched DCI (admittedly on the hornline, but I was very close with the tenor players), I HAVE seen some corps that I interacted with who had cut out rims. Plus, as you yourself state, it's very possible to hit rim. I am a halfway decent snare player, as I have taken lessons. I decided to play on a Vic Firth quad pad one one of the members brought, and as soon as I tried to do scrapes it went awful. That's with ZERO rim. Like Scojo said in the video from 2016, the cutouts are there to show where to cross over, and again, if you would have hit rim on a set of tenors with no cutouts, you will on the System Blue drums.
EmperorOfGaming yeah, two years later, I don’t necessarily think it’s “cheating” but I myself wouldn’t enjoy playing on system blues. But yea, after marching DCI in pit, I think talking about this sorta thing is trivial, and I wish ppl would stop talking about rims or no rims and just enjoy music.
Aquamelon! To be honest, I’m glad to see your opinion has changed haha. Thanks for voicing your opinion respectfully all those years ago. Where did you march, and what specific instrument? #MarchOn
Everyone should stop giving him crap. This dude was on the winning corps quad line. So he knows his shit. These are the drums BD gave him, not like he had a choice. Yes he didn’t have rims but he was doing so much that he was bound to hit the edge of whatever. He did an awesome job
hey to anybody that has seen an I and E tenor solo in person, are the tenors loud in that big room? I'm just curios because I haven't seen a drumline up close in a while
Rims are honestly something you run into on every type of marching drum. You hit them on accident, it’s a thing. I just want every person who has gotten on Miles back about rim hitting to play the solo perfectly, and never hit the rim.
I see lots of roasting on how he shouldn’t have gotten first with all those rim ticks and stuff but the way I see it is that he’s definitely a great player. He’s brought something new and refreshing to the I&e table. A good display of chops while still being really interesting, interesting and groovy. I like it but that doesnt mean other people can’t. I get why people prefer the more classic chop outs of scv style players and stuff where it’s more about perfection. I think this solo is less about perfection and more about bringing a new difficulty to i&e that is theoretically possible. I like it
Jjynja the difficulty/demand of the solo is really high and I agree with what you say. However, these solos should be heavily based on execution as opposed to trying to play 90000 beats in under 5 min. Idk Maybe I’m being harsh but I don’t think this shoulda taken 1st .: too many mistakes that take away from the solo itself
@@alexramirez2998 I think judging something like this will always be just a bit subjective. I see what you mean but I feel as though the judges sometimes have to make a decision between execution and demonstration of skill. To me, the fact that this solo pushed boundaries in solo tenor playing makes up for the few points of missed execution. He didn't get a perfect score he just happened to score better than anyone who competed. Thats what I think. I also just enjoy this solo and what it made me believe is possible on tenor drum. This and SCV solos are so coool in different ways and I love it
Jjynja I watched the other two runner up videos and I take back what I said; he did beat the other two tenor i&e’s lol .. some years are just better than others I guess .. that’s what I revert my comment to. And yes absolutely agree with the SCV stuff 🔥
@@alexramirez2998 I gotta say I respect your openness to my view because alot of comments on blue devils videos are just ripping on them for one reason or another. I like the Blue Devils but I also Like SCV it's not like I have to only like one or the other ya feel? Its just art in the end
Everyone is talking about the rims, yet I haven't seen anyone at anything about how his drum closet to his knees than his waist😂 he has to bend over to play😂. I'm not sure if he just 7' tall or this is the new way to play but that's not how I was raised🤷♂️
All y'all hating on the rims but it's more of a trademark to be different. They don't even have cutouts anymore and they showed y'all up by playing just the same good so go away head asses😂
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