Geheyah Huh? How? I don’t mean to seem mean but they’re so different story wise. & If you mean a song series, there’s plenty song series especially Vocaloid song series. (This isn’t to be mean, I’d love to know what reminds you of it! ^^)
Yep this is the strangest concept for me also.. but there's exist experiment with the same name as this channel name (Milgram)... So the concept probably come from that experiment
Wiat what even is this? I mean I understood the video but overall what is this trying to do? I watched a video with the pink haired girl just now that popped up in my recommended and I'm confused...
I feel like the name of the project is an enormous taunt towards us, the audience. It is probably named after the Milgram Shock Experiment wherein the participant is raised to the position of a teacher and asked to punish their students (administer an electric shock to them) whenever they answer incorrectly. The experiment aims to find out if people would be willing to perform violence simply because someone told them to. Similarly, we are raised to the position of a judge, thus playing right into their hands. It is up to us to punish or to forgive the prisoners (the students in the actual Milgram experiment) and we think that grants us authority. However, we are simply obeying the people conducting this Milgram project. The more interesting thing is that in the actual Milgram experiment, the student was actually an actor, who would pretend to receive an electric shock every time the participant punished them, such that the person being punished was actually innocent and unharmed, but the participant thought their actions were affecting the other person. Many such participants delivered fatal shocks (or at least thought they did) to their students. So perhaps there's way more to the story than what we're being told. Maybe Es (that's us) is the one being tested and all the prisoners are actors. Perhaps they're all innocent and our verdicts won't do anything to them. But we're still gonna judge, aren't we?
I was thinking along the same lines. The prisoners might be guilty or innocent, but the "true" purpose of this experiment might still be to see how we (in the role of Es) react to those people and their stories. Which would probably make me NOT vote at all in such a situation, or if I can't help but voting, to vote innocent on all of them, no matter what I think of their crimes. Like... I'd refuse to be the judge as I'm not qualified to be one, so whatever I feel about their crime is unimportant.
The name of the project is making me think they're all innocent. They're doing their own experiment to see how cruel and petty we can be when given authority.
All of them are guilty coz they “sinned”, but it’s up to us if we want to forgive them or not, like you said we can be however we want when given the authority
@@ray3341 I think that "Crossark" said they might all be innocent because in the original milgram experiment (explained by Chris just 3 comments before mine), the "teacher"/judge didn't know it but the "student"/sinner was actually acting: the student wasn't telling the answers he thought true but the ones he was told to tell and didn't get the punishment but acted as if he was; this way, the songs might not be telling the truth but just created stories and the sinners might be acting too. When seen like that, all the sinners are innocent
Holy! Someone in the comments said a theory that Es might be one of the prisoners but doesn’t know it yet. When they were showing the layout of the prison there were 11 rooms and not 10.... What if one of those rooms is for Es?? I have a feeling that these trials would lead to a death sentence and it’s because of Es’ choices thus making them a murderer??? Also damn I love the concept of this!
Es must have some kind of connection to the prisoners, I feel like it would be pointless to have the MC be a stranger with no ties to the prisoners. Although maybe that's reflective of how we, the audience are complete strangers? idk lmao
@@kurootetsuro9342 To be fair, Es is/we are in the role of a judge, who is suppose to be impartial in their decisions and not have any ties to those being tried. People have been speculating, however, that Es isn't in as much control as we're led to believe; after all, this is named after the Milgram Shock Experiments. Plus, even though Undercover is something of the series's main theme, it's also Es's own song, extracted from the box we see at the beginning and end
Real late reply, but Kotoko's newest song has her calling Es 011... Sounds like Es might really be in it too, and Kotoko knows more than we initially thought
Just a friendly reminder that this music series is created by the lord of depressing, abusive & toxic relationships in Vocaloid songs using Hatsune Miku himself, DECO*27. I don't trust this project to have a happy ending.
I thought I'd clear up that the guilty and innocent is more of a misconception it is better to say the system is forgiveness and not forgiving instead, since this is sort of a social experiment and building trust is apart of it since all of them are criminals
at 1:35 there is a symbol of a ram and a sheep (?) on a scale. sheep symbolize knowing your place/ obedience to a higher authority while rams symbolize the power to overcome/ break through and it is also the icon for action which is the 5th element of heroism. the entire concept itself draws parallels to the milgram experiment (an experiment to see whether evil was drawn out of the need to obey a higher authority). + es may also be a prisoner too (they lost all their memories 0:11)
I agree with you, Es may be a prisoner At 0:58 there's a 000 cell that might belong to Es, that's why there are 11 rooms instead of 10 at 1:03 Also Jackalope says he is Es' "caretaker" 0:30 (Just think of me as your caretaker) but I think he hides the truth and he is actually his guard (Sorry, I'm not a native speaker, hope you understand me)
thank you so much for the english translations! I can't wait to see more from this project! anyway is there any english community for this project? I would love to join in for discussions and stuff :'(
milgram is a new collabo project by DECO*27, Yamanaka Takuya, and OTOIRO. it's an interactive music series. we judge the prisoners based on their PV via their website.
I just want to say “Es” is the original name for ID in Freud’s theory of like the Ego, Super ego and the ID The ID is basically your desires or impulses, whatever they may be, something banal like food or something darker
OH! I haven't thought of that... I was merely thinking that it's interesting they named them Es, which is german for "it". I heard of Freud, but I didn't make the connection at all. There could be something to that!