Captain Dale Dye is the definition of the trope, called Cool Old Guy. He exudes seamless confidence, while at the same time, seeming like a guy you’d love to grab a drink with.
We were 19 when Platoon was released…I VIVIDLY remember going to see it having heard it was intense, knowing those soldiers were my age. I’ve seen it 50 times. Love this guy. Also glad a ‘younger generation’ got to see him in Band of Brothers.
Dale Dye is the real deal.He's been in many movies doing his part in Hollywood without being Hollywood.He's an underrated legend and yet a soldier doing his part.
+360SRH 2 exactly, lets put it this way -- Platoon is legendary, one of the best movies ever created by mankind, Band of Brothers is cool but it doesnt even touch Platoon
spearPYN Platoon is so good mainly because it's an anti-war movie, rape, drugs, racism, atrocities, fragging etc.. Hollywood would never support this, it's an independent.. Band is a pro war movie, it's good but made for TV
AllBrushed Models BOB was NOT a “pro war movie”. That’s an idiotic comment. It was the true story of men in WWII. Platoon was Oliver Stones biased view of a war he hated.
He did a great job. It sends tingles up my arms. Even to see that Tropic Lightning patch on their LEFT shoulder.... some colored red/yellow and some camo colored. It is the way it was...... I know. I was in the 25th Infantry Division and was an infantryman 1967-68. We swept 10 klicks a day..... I survived. 58,000 did not. That's sad. The movie is dedicated to those who fought and died in the Vietnam war.
well i dont know but i think i've also seen charakters with that 25th infantry division patch AND the patch from the 1st cavalry at the other sleeve.... is that even possible? oO did those two divisions work so close together that they mixed their men? :D
Geez.... A patch on the left shoulder means you are active in that unit... A patch on the left shoulder means you were previously in that unit .. Many guys did two tours in RVN and could have served with 1st Air Cav in the Highlands, came back for another tour and were sent to the 25th Inv which was south of where 1st Air Cav was working.. Those 2 units did not "work together" in the Vietnam war. Such is the case of Ron Kovic , a marine who came back for a second tour of duty. Sadly, his second tour cost him big time. From movie "Born on the Fourth of July". Hope this explains it Also Oliver Stone served with 3/22 Inf , 25th Infantry Div same timing as me ( his second tour). We were probably near each other many times especially at Fire Support Base Burt
peter rech In 69-70 the 25th Div, 1st Div,11th ACR, 1st Cav, 199th LIB, and 82nd Abn were all in III Corps. We crossed paths a number of times. I appreciated Platoon’s attention to detail with insignia, radio protocol, etc. It was obvious to me someone knew what they were doing. I attempted to comment on this in No Country For Old Men when several characters pronounced it Nam instead of Nom, as I heard it pronounced 100% of the time.
Platoon and Full Metal Jacket, and Saving Private Ryan, and BandOf Brothers are shows you can watch over and over. They are gruesome and bloody. And death is all around, but, you can’t get enough of the realism, and regardless of how you love peace, you live and die as you watch. You are mentally transported into that movie. If you watched them once or 5 times, you are completely submerged into the action. I am so glad for my 6 years of service, 2 years of National Guard, 4 years of regular Army Field Artillery. In Fact when I saw Full Metal Jacket I begged my National Guard First Seargent to let me go Regular Army. I had just graduated high School. I spent my junior year summer in Basic Training. I bought my first beer at 17, legally at Ft. Sill Oklahoma.
I was 14 when Platoon was out. Saw it at Christmas time with my dad (RIP, Dad). It sure made an impression. I knew that combat had to really suck. I had seen a few other Vietnam movies before, but nothing like this (i think i saw Apocalypse Now a year or so later on cable).
Had read his articles in SOF magazine in the 80's, then he' not in print, and pops up Platoon Fantastic job turning actors for this role. Met Franceso Quinn just before he passed, and he had his jungle boots on....................
Well thought out. "This guy knows his stuff". The psychology of warfare is "A truly unappreciated field of endeavor". Some people have strange ideas about this. Failing and Elimination. This results with the very few and even less in advanced skills, technology and equipment.
I thought the exact same thing. It turns out he's been trained in Arctic Combat with the RMC in Norway. Maybe they thought he was tough enough to pass the commando tests and so they awarded him with the Commando beret and cap badge. I love that he wears his Commando beret instead of something related to the USMC.
He presumably passed the All Arms Commando Course while on exchange, and was presented the green lid with USMC capbadge. Pretty common. Looks like RM capbadge here though.
this reminds me of another VERY well done French Indochina War movie, '317 Platoon", by Pierre Schoendoerffer (who, it must be said, was a French War Correspondent at Dien Bien Phu and was actually captured at the end of the battle, narrowly avoiding execution when a Soviet War Correspondent convinced the Vietminh not to kill him). Schoendoerffer, filmed his movie in Cambodia in 1964/65 during the monsoon season. He had his cast 'drill' in the rain. As he put it, a War film should not be made in comfort. He was fortunate that many of the Indigenous characters were veterans Cambodian soldiers serving with the French.
Barnes doesn't have a problem with you as long as you follow orders. If you don't, the machine breaks down. And when the machine breaks down, we break down.
@@ricomajestic Similar to George Clooney and Brad Pitt, Depp really did pay his dues and work his way up as an actor and people can forget that he was the teenager in Nightmare On Elm Street who gets eaten by a bed.
Why did they choose Bravo Company 2nd platoon for the platoon movie? David Dingle served in Bravo co. 2nd platoon as a Pfc rifleman foot soldier, point man for 12 months in combat in Vietnam & wrote his personal story about it. Title: I've served my time in hell.
Platoon takes place in 1967-68. When did dingle or what year was He with that unit? [( B co 2nd battalion 9th infantry Regiment of the 25th infantry division (electric strawberry)]
You take the cast of Dirty Dozen or a Bridge Too Far, many were WWII veterans. They didn't need to be coached. Honest portrayal is the least that can be done when evoking war. I doubt we'd get along :) but that's OK.
Of course they wrote the platoon screenplay etc. but the inspiration came from David Dingle platoons story written in 1976 NYC from his recollections. It was a Godly thing that cause the book "I've served my time in hell" to be written.
He did voiceover work for at least two of the original "Medal Of Honor" games. Also had a character modelled after him that shows up in the final mission in "Medal Of Honor: European Assault." He's done a hell of a lot of work on a lot of movies, and has even became quite an actor in his own right (re: Col Bob Sink from "Band Of Brothers"). In his commentary track on "Platoon," he tells a lot of funny stories, one of them being the brief scene he had with Berenger, Dafoe, and Mark Moses (the guy who played Lt. Wolf) right after the incident at the village: "So here I am in my first big movie scene: Tom Berenger, William Dafoe, Mark Moses...and broke-dick weenie Dale Dye with his hair colored brown." A lot of interesting anecdotes, observations, and historical context packed into that track. Dye definitely brings a shit-ton of authenticity as both an advisor and an actor; like the late R. Lee Ermey, he just gives off a vibe that you pretty much can't fake or learn in an acting class...you can just tell he's a guy who's lived the things he does in his movies. Though I will give props to Tom Berenger for getting about as close as any actor with no military background I've ever seen. I think a lot of it is that sort of Midwestern every-man quality he has; I knew quite a few NCOs and SNCOs in the Marine Corps like him (and Dye, for that matter).
No it isn't mate, it was written and directed by Oliver Stone, based on his experiences with the 25th infantry division near the Cambodian border in 1967-1968.
I'm not sure why you think he was an artilleryman, maybe you read somewhere he was in 3rd Battalion when he was with the 25th? Well there is a 3rd artillery battalion in 25th infantry, but he wasn't in that unit. He was in the 3rd battalion 21st INFANTRY regiment, a grunt, a rifleman. a large amount of the events depicted in the film Stone experienced firsthand.
harvey keitel what planet are you on? The Mountain leader course is one of toughest in the British Military. as indicated by its 20% pass rate. A Royal Marine Commando must go through an eight-month training course, starting with a week-long selection, in order to qualify as a Mountain Leader. If it's peanuts, then why does the Brigade Patrol troop, the elite reconnaissance unit of 3 Commando Brigade select Royal Marine Commandos who are Mountain Leaders, and not those who are just Commandos. Mountain Leaders are not strictly-speaking Special Forces, even though their standards of selection and training are considered by some to be as hard, if not harder, than UKSF units. Mountain Leader Training includes climbing cliffs free climbing (without ropes) mountaineering survival resistance to interrogation (RTI) training ice climbing arctic survival arctic navigation long distance skiing long range reconnaissance training
Do you even know what the final four commando tests are, you think Dye could pass all those in proper time? If not then he doesn't have what it takes to wear that green lid.. There's no strict time limits with your Mountain leader camping course.. That's why RMC entry age limit is 33.. It's fucking brutal. I love Dale but he's not a RMC
Nope RM tests have an age limit of 33, because they are backbreaking only Chris Terrell (55) did them all but that guy is a beast, watch "the 55 yr old commando" docu, and tell me if you think old Dale could do that, while being out of training for so long, and eating donuts on Hollywood sets, many people have died in Dartmoor during these tests. I can guarantee Dale has not ran 32 miles across Dartmoor with full kit, in under a STRICT time limit of 8hrs or swung around on the tarzan assault course, in a STRICT time of 13mins, there is also a parkour vid of those guys trying to pass it, it broke them.
I do not like Sheen in this movie. He doesn't compare one atom to his old man in Apocalypse Now. Running around like it's a water gun fight, hosing down VC at point blank range, no scratches, very cartoonish. Not convinced. Berenger and Dafoe carried this movie.
I loved Platoon but I agree that Charlie Sheen wasn't really that believable and convincing in the movie and he wasn't any more believable in Navy SEALs as a Navy SEAL or ''Team Guy'' but I do understand that the movie inspired a lot of people to join the SEALs( and other branches of the military besides the Navy).
I highly doubt he passed all four commando tests in his old age, only 55yr old Chris Terrell has done that being outside the 33yrs entry age limit... Dale is fit but he's not that fit.. Chris barely did it, he failed a couple times but finally passed.
@@ScreaminModelKits presumably did the AACC while serving in the USMC. He doesn't strike me as the sort of person that would wear something he hasn't earned.
He was the only competent officer in Platoon. A seasoned man in his 40's with the rank of Captain, which is what most officers from the beginning are from their mid-20's to mid-30's. He did his time as an enlisted man in combat. I loved his Captain Harris role in Platoon, but in Casualties of War? What an ass! A man whos rank and power went to his head and was more concerned about protecting number one!
