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Have you noticed this trend? Cringeworthy writing in video games and TV shows. Is it because it's written by millennials? or for millennials?
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@ShreddedNerd
@ShreddedNerd Год назад
Note: Charges made against Justin Roiland were dropped.
@MechShark
@MechShark Год назад
Respect. ✌
@alalmalal
@alalmalal Год назад
Gonna talk about the incredibly believable grooming allegations next?
@mastertubbily1812
@mastertubbily1812 Год назад
Dang it
@NickVS
@NickVS Год назад
that's not why he ended up canceled because he's a groomer
@Notchjrgaming1269
@Notchjrgaming1269 Год назад
Justin roiland could be a groomer but why only cancel him why not also cancel all the trans kids activist and drag queen that read books to children while showing off their balls
@josedorsaith5261
@josedorsaith5261 Год назад
The perfect examples of "safe-edgy". They'll mention wage-slavery, but stop before they offend their producers
@yavvivvay
@yavvivvay Год назад
Yes, they should starve to prove a point I guess.
@vladthedragon8250
@vladthedragon8250 Год назад
@@yavvivvay If they starved outside of their own 'wellness induced choice' they wouldn't be writing stuff like this because they'd have at least some lived context of suffering. They have none, so microgressions become a human rights violation.
@yavvivvay
@yavvivvay Год назад
@@vladthedragon8250 there is no hierarchy to suffering. Of course given that, there is a certain hierarchy of needs blocking each other. If you have issues in the lower needs you will think the level above is silly and ridiculous... until you get there.
@vladthedragon8250
@vladthedragon8250 Год назад
@@yavvivvay There definitely is a hierarchy of suffering. It's the very definition between a need and a want and the consequence of being deprived of it. Contrast is what gives things their definition, without a low end contrast and with the high end being so stable it's invisible you get progressives.
@yavvivvay
@yavvivvay Год назад
@@vladthedragon8250 well I don't think there is as i mostly agree with Edith Eger who spoke about her suffering in the concentration camps not being more worth or worse than the suffering her patients experienced. Moreover, people who literally have issues with getting food are sometimes the most optimistic and content individuals you can imagine - as suffering is complex and escapes easy definitions. But to each their own I guess. IMHO the problem is the writers write about percieved suffering of others, not their own. There are many well written stories about depression or discrimination out there. There are also books about experience of others that work really well - you just need to let them speak and pull your ego out. What I see in modern writing is mostly the unicorn upbringing of "you can be whatever you want" morphed into ego of "I never make mistakes" and "any criticismy of my writing is attack on the people who my agenda supports". The criticism then becomes an attack on your tribe, as you setup defenses of class/minority/identity around your work, unwilling to accept it might just be bad. Because when your work is good (Dead space remake) nothing of that matters that much, only fringe haters from both sides will blow up over it.
@notasovietspytrustme4392
@notasovietspytrustme4392 Год назад
The two rules of millennial writing: 1. The author is annoying 2. The writing is about themselves
@MollyHJohns
@MollyHJohns Год назад
I'm a Millenial but I don't claim these and Mindy Kaling
@ZyroShadowPony
@ZyroShadowPony Год назад
And there has to be a character with the shaved side swept to the other side style. For some reason it has to be included as if its something very important
@tn420animations9
@tn420animations9 Год назад
@@MollyHJohns she is gen x
@tn420animations9
@tn420animations9 Год назад
@@cold_static she's a gen x
@synestia4005
@synestia4005 Год назад
@@redwaytoo Found the fragile millenial xD
@p33ko81
@p33ko81 Год назад
The marvel cinematic universe and its consequences has been a disaster for the writing race
@TNDTKDTTDTID
@TNDTKDTTDTID Год назад
Snowplows and colon cancer have been a savior to the film industry
@MarkMightBeBetter
@MarkMightBeBetter Год назад
I miss old marvel movies man, they were better.
@EmilyKimMartin
@EmilyKimMartin Год назад
@@MarkMightBeBetter Same. Superhero movies should've never evolved from being a cheesy, aesthetically charming package filled with action for an hour and a half. Now you get this POG MULTIVERSE 🤓😲 crap with REFERENCES and MEMES and a lot of shitty lore that only exists to bait into sequels and spin-offs.
@Hot_SpicyGrill
@Hot_SpicyGrill Год назад
There are so many marvel movies they’ve told every single type of bad joke once. It’s just new cringe, simpsons did it frist kind of argument said by people who don’t know how to write.
@leiferickson1494
@leiferickson1494 Год назад
@@TNDTKDTTDTIDWhat’s the context for this?
@Atlasbr001
@Atlasbr001 7 месяцев назад
i always called it reddit writting
@Warwipf
@Warwipf 3 месяца назад
I think everyone did, before Gen Z was old enough to pin the problem on millennials.
@RAIN_2001
@RAIN_2001 2 месяца назад
soy writting
@moh.syafrianabie8899
@moh.syafrianabie8899 2 месяца назад
I call it Twittard writing
@elmochomo8218
@elmochomo8218 2 месяца назад
tumblr writing
@OnTheBackOfBullets
@OnTheBackOfBullets Месяц назад
@@Warwipf Theyre barely old enough to vote.
@EplusNis4ever
@EplusNis4ever Год назад
this writing style just screams ''im 36 and i never grew up after high school''
@EplusNis4ever
@EplusNis4ever Год назад
i forgot to add, i am younger than 36 and when i was a teen, i already avoided games like borderlands for having dialogue like this. i think mentioning even high school in the above sentence is too much of a compliment
@Hypnotically_Caucasian
@Hypnotically_Caucasian Год назад
Being younger than 28, I can also attest these millennials talk like this too. Untalkative aspies like me stick out
@Chamiliatic
@Chamiliatic Год назад
Because they peaked in high-school.
@trueblueclue
@trueblueclue Год назад
An average millennial
@Buckwheat0
@Buckwheat0 Год назад
@@EplusNis4ever you missed out, BL2 was so much fun
@dipjay8590
@dipjay8590 9 месяцев назад
Brian Griffin writing
@Hexarth
@Hexarth 7 месяцев назад
funniest comment
@EsteemedReptile
@EsteemedReptile 2 месяца назад
hey peeder
@kmajorleague
@kmajorleague 2 месяца назад
As annoying as Brian Griffin is, I do believe he is one of the most relatable family guy characters. Not bc we should relate to him, but bc he reminds everyone of someone they know irl and somehow every joke they make about him further solidifies that comparison
@Thefifthloko
@Thefifthloko Месяц назад
​@@kmajorleagueearlier seasons he was the voice of reason of the family, later seasons he became the liberal douche.
@kemix1006
@kemix1006 29 дней назад
Lets not forget giving a baby fucking HIV. ​@Thefifthloko
@skellt
@skellt Год назад
"They're not saying it because they think they have something to say, but because they think they have to say something." That's such a great way to put it.
@makutas-v261
@makutas-v261 Год назад
"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent" -Qui Gon Jinn See, an ACTUAL wise pop reference.
@xyouthe
@xyouthe Год назад
in high school i had a friend who dealt with autism and i noticed he was starting to think the same way. had to let him know that not everything that happens online needs your opinion to be put out there. if you dont have anything to say, dont force it because youre "obligated" to talk about issues, youre not obligated
@ab-gail
@ab-gail Год назад
Exactly! That’s exactly it! Cause that’s how School tells you to write.
@AVI-lh6rm
@AVI-lh6rm Год назад
@@makutas-v261 "You are made of stupid." - that one guy from command and conquer
@malcode9155
@malcode9155 Год назад
Plato: “Wise man talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.”
@M4ruta
@M4ruta 3 месяца назад
1. Ironic, self-defensive detachment from anything that seriously matters. 2. Self-centered story-telling: main character is a self-insert of the author. 3. Pop-culture reference, pop-culture reference, pop-culture reference, pop-culture reference... 4. Vanilla activism: "Racism bad! Capitalism bad! Politicians bad!"
@ChrisLeRose
@ChrisLeRose 2 месяца назад
Every generation is pulling this crap. Don't let the old fucks and young dorks off the hook.
@NBDYSPCL
@NBDYSPCL 2 месяца назад
It's not even "politicians bad" it's "your politicians are bad but I will willfully ignore or no-true-scotsman the flaws of my side!" It's disingenuous. There's no introspection or _genuine_ self doubt allowed.
@Flesh_Wizard
@Flesh_Wizard 2 месяца назад
5. Jokes that are unfunny and excessively drawn out
@dungeonmaster217
@dungeonmaster217 2 месяца назад
It's extra annoying when I am millennial, and also quite left-leaning and they turn the whole ideology into a cringy farce. How do they expect people to take them seriously if they don't take themselves seriosly in the first place.
@amadeusagripino6862
@amadeusagripino6862 Месяц назад
​​@@dungeonmaster217 don't complain, you are a big part of the problem, leftoid
@andreibaciu7518
@andreibaciu7518 Год назад
There's a small moment in GTA IV that is the anathema to the millenial idea of "trauma". When going out on a date with Michelle, she might ocasionally speak about Mallorie, saying she is poor, to which Niko coldly responds "You people don't know what poor is".
@Mabra51
@Mabra51 Год назад
GTA IV was something else.
@deriznohappehquite
@deriznohappehquite Год назад
The American Millenial conception of poverty seems to be “has some form of stress or mental burden due to lack of infinite resources”.
@BlueTyphoon2017
@BlueTyphoon2017 Год назад
@@deriznohappehquite I mean, not really, I think it’s just more so just stress. And what do you mean not having infinite resources?
@gamesux420
@gamesux420 Год назад
@@BlueTyphoon2017 like "having to get a job to affort living" as opposed to just having essentially unlimited funds to live and do whatever you feel like, like when you live at your parents place. Thats what a lot of the, quite frankly really retarded, "anti-capitalism" thing boils down to for these people "i have to work but i dont want to work"
@moister3727
@moister3727 Год назад
Modern poverty for americans seems to be that they can't afford the last iPhone Pro Max or whatever.
@FaithfulFumoFan23
@FaithfulFumoFan23 Год назад
1. Pop culture references 2. Characters that just won't shut up 3. Forced humor every 5 seconds 4. Everything is a "critique" of something 5. Cartoonish black and white morality The 5 Pillars of Millennialism. Also everything needs to be loud for no reason.
@thecompareablezombie
@thecompareablezombie Год назад
As A millennial I agree, that is what some of the most loudest Millennials in the America think.
@theALTF4
@theALTF4 Год назад
i like bocchi too :) AND your mockery of milenials as well 6.everything is toxo/phobic/blematic/soginistic and the author's massive ego si the solution 7.criticism toward the author's ego is rape-speech and toxoblematic and you shoud DO BETTER 8.any form of criticism is "acktualley *snort*🤓🤓🤓" bc you're speaking from your internalized ______phobia/giny/ism therefore your opinion is invalid (proceeds to seek validation in redditwitter...and to dogpile the critic)
@thehermit8618
@thehermit8618 Год назад
Millennial writers are chronically afraid of silence and letting people come to their own conclusions
@eren2519
@eren2519 Год назад
My millennial sibling mentioned there’s also a “millennial stare” scene a lot
@Juminocoreforeverahh
@Juminocoreforeverahh Год назад
Reminds me of yiik
@prophetofthecentury
@prophetofthecentury Год назад
to quote warren spector (director of deus ex) about politics in video games: “Some years ago, I gave a talk at The New School in New York and afterwards did something I never do - went out for drinks with folks who’d been in the audience. At the bar, one of them sat down next to me (he was a little drunk) and asked ‘how could you make that right-wing piece of propaganda?’. Before I could answer, another guy walked up and, having overheard, said ‘right-wing propaganda? It was left-wing from start to finish!” The fact is, they were both right I guess, based on how they’d played. I was really tickled by that.”
@Don-ds3dy
@Don-ds3dy Год назад
Its almost depressing what some people consider "left wing" or "right wing" these days.
@residentkrockhead
@residentkrockhead Год назад
@@Don-ds3dy to me it’s even more depressing that people consider these terms insults in and of themselves. They are two sides of the political coin. There is evil on both sides but most people on either spectrum of belief are not extremists at all
@residentkrockhead
@residentkrockhead Год назад
@Antonio Gramsci yes because societies on the right are the only societies to utilize segregation…are you kidding me? And America invented slavery too, right?
@morningwoody4514
@morningwoody4514 Год назад
@Antonio Gramsci Jesus Christ, shut up.
@K0sm1cKid
@K0sm1cKid Год назад
@Antonio Gramsci >Guy who has never had a genuine conversation with a conservative in their life.
@MTTMX
@MTTMX 7 месяцев назад
Gen Z here. Im so sick of irony poisoning literally every piece of media. Wish writers could be sincere even if its high concept or absurd
@MGrey-qb5xz
@MGrey-qb5xz 7 месяцев назад
stay in school kid
@AugustRx
@AugustRx 7 месяцев назад
​could be in his late 20s@@MGrey-qb5xz
@dejanjakobovic9803
@dejanjakobovic9803 7 месяцев назад
​@@MGrey-qb5xzeven the youngest zoomers are in their mid-teens now, so I'd assume he is in his 20s.
@TakonumeroII
@TakonumeroII 7 месяцев назад
​@@dejanjakobovic9803 Youngest Zoomers have between 9-12 years old
@dejanjakobovic9803
@dejanjakobovic9803 7 месяцев назад
​@@TakonumeroII 2012 was 12 years ago as of writing this reply. Gen Alpha started in 2010. This makes the youngest Zoomers around 14-15 years old.
@SavageFreddy33
@SavageFreddy33 Год назад
I love it when people known for mindlessly toxic consumerism make vague jabs at capitalism.
@chrisnichols9014
@chrisnichols9014 Год назад
Pure irony.
@honkhonk8009
@honkhonk8009 Год назад
Ong bruh. These peoples consumerims makes andrew tate look like Confucius.
@honkhonk8009
@honkhonk8009 Год назад
I knew this guy, who kept doing the same twitter-speak shit about capitalism almost all the time after watching Hasan. I said the military kinda has its own socialist economy going if u think abt it with their own in house barber shops and hospitals and stuff. This motherfucker deadass said (copypasted): "Thats not socialism. Socialism is classless, money-less society! Capitalism isn't when you use money! Capitalism is low pay, exploitative labor, and no unions!!!!!" Idk if this brainlet realizes that his description of capitalism applies to the USSR. Ion hate the dude, but he was a massive Elon Musk meatrider before Elon Musk started talking bad about democrats. Then he immediately switched his tone, and called him a capitalist grifter lmfao.
@darkzeroprojects4245
@darkzeroprojects4245 Год назад
Pretty much. It makes me groan every time.
@TheThreatenedSwan
@TheThreatenedSwan Год назад
You see if you make jabs at a vague system, you are free to make unethical consumption choices to your hearts content
@miketacos9034
@miketacos9034 Год назад
“You’re really good at that! Shooting things, that is.” This line right here exemplifies Millennial writing. Rick and Morty is like this too. I finally have word for this, thank you.
@Sorrowdusk
@Sorrowdusk Год назад
Rick and Morty was better at it though. The thing is you can't just imitate things. You've gotta actually do something original.
@Skelterbane69
@Skelterbane69 Год назад
I realize I often talk like that...... I feel like such a douche
@harambe4267
@harambe4267 Год назад
@@Sorrowdusk Rick and Morty isn't exactly the pinnacle of comedy either. It is the millennial humor before it got out of hand and spilled over everywhere.
@sayorikeychains1847
@sayorikeychains1847 Год назад
High on Life basically encapsulates everything wrong with Millenial writing in the worst way possible
@astronemir
@astronemir Год назад
@@Skelterbane69 you’re not a douche you just consume too much similar content by these writers or online in comments/twitter
@PossumReviews
@PossumReviews Год назад
This reminds me of when I was a kid seeing cartoons written by old people trying to be "hip" with the kids by featuring rap songs.
@JesusChrist-ey9qt
@JesusChrist-ey9qt Год назад
Hey possum didn’t expect to see u here
@StephonZeno
@StephonZeno Год назад
@@JesusChrist-ey9qt It's almost like RU-vidrs are people who watch youtube videos as well.
@JesusChrist-ey9qt
@JesusChrist-ey9qt Год назад
@@StephonZeno yeah but it’s never RU-vidr that I watch or care about
@taitos00
@taitos00 Год назад
Unexpected Possum cameo
@juliaturk7054
@juliaturk7054 Год назад
Holy smokes it's Possum!
@jpdawinna1
@jpdawinna1 6 месяцев назад
My favorite millenial writing phrase is "Well, that just happened"
@send_a_raven
@send_a_raven 3 месяца назад
i raise you: "yeah, because *that's* not totally creepy."
@ericrhodes5174
@ericrhodes5174 3 месяца назад
Or: "NAILED it!"
@jeffbecnel139
@jeffbecnel139 2 месяца назад
Mine is “As an xxx” or “Speaking as a xxx.” It’s as if they’re too timid to just come out with it and say “I’m (whatever). Here’s what I think.”
@johns1625
@johns1625 2 месяца назад
Or making the most obvious pun imaginable and then saying "I'll see myself out..." 🤮🤮
@eggnog52
@eggnog52 2 месяца назад
@@jpdawinna1 This! So much this!
@joshuab.3887
@joshuab.3887 Год назад
"Write what you know" works best when people actually know things
@Nukestarmaster
@Nukestarmaster Год назад
lol
@Remington934
@Remington934 Год назад
Then I dread the time when Gen Z humor is prévalant
@MidlifeCrisisJoe
@MidlifeCrisisJoe Год назад
Yeah all the old writers who tossed out that advice presumed people would live lives of struggle and meaning, not basically do nothing but look at social media all day. They really could not have foreseen just how dark the future ended up.
@LegendaryP-sl7gf
@LegendaryP-sl7gf Год назад
@@MidlifeCrisisJoe Another "social media bad" comment 😒
@omlo9093
@omlo9093 Год назад
I genuinely loathe these hack writers.
@maxtheawesome4255
@maxtheawesome4255 Год назад
"It feels like these stories only represent the experiences of young, wealthy inner-city tech people from the coastal cities of America." Exactly. That's the whole issue right there. It's an out-of-touch, self rightious, circlejerk perpetuated by a privileged isolation from everyone else.
@Sabamonster
@Sabamonster Год назад
Well articulated and incredibly accurate.
@d.d.7720
@d.d.7720 Год назад
Privaledged?
@grandevirtude9830
@grandevirtude9830 Год назад
Yeah, i just think that the majority of public is from these metropolis, like video games doesn't target Nigerian Radish Farmers
@jaretnegron6809
@jaretnegron6809 Год назад
Not just that, but maybe more specifically, "Hollywood" writing, written from one bubble of California
@Sabamonster
@Sabamonster Год назад
@@grandevirtude9830 It might not target Nigerian Radish Farmers but the majority of people in general terms, do not reside in high-society suburban homes on the outskirts of San Francisco. They live amongst celebrities and things of that nature and are heavily influenced by that culture, which basically means they are detached from reality as far as the "common person" is concerned.
@Dingbobber
@Dingbobber 6 месяцев назад
When he said "Maybe stop doing that problematic accent" I physically winced from cringe.
@Daralexen
@Daralexen 5 месяцев назад
The person who wrote that probably believes that United States accents are “normal accents.”
@3rdStreetAVolitionite
@3rdStreetAVolitionite 3 месяца назад
And they call people who oppose their views "racist". You cannot make this up.
@flowerbloom5782
@flowerbloom5782 3 месяца назад
The “straight fire” joke made my skin crawl.
@voctur
@voctur 3 месяца назад
​@@flowerbloom5782IMO that one is even worse because it was supposed to be a joke. Like, I imagine the team of writers all together laughing because how "funny" the joke was.
@dcl32
@dcl32 2 месяца назад
I just heard that part. My heart just stopped
@weedblaster2125
@weedblaster2125 Год назад
I love the Tweet that goes “all art is inherently political”, with the top reply being “what is the political message behind fat Pikachu?”
@simonpetrikov3992
@simonpetrikov3992 10 месяцев назад
@@whatev2453or that the lack of any immediate message is a sign that you support the status quo
@chrisa7134
@chrisa7134 10 месяцев назад
It’s fat shaming duh, and it’s highly problematic
@bosnia-number-one
@bosnia-number-one 10 месяцев назад
uhmmm the yellow pikachu actually represents the hyperinflation experienced in western montenegro around the turn of the 90's. but i would expect a FASCIST like you to know about it
@taterthepenguin
@taterthepenguin 9 месяцев назад
If it doesn't have a political message then it's not art. Pretty simple, huh
@m.infernal
@m.infernal 9 месяцев назад
It is a deep introspective look into the modern american life style and their over consumpsion of sugar and alcohol while living a sedentary life style causing most of the health problems, mental and physical, for everyone big and small. Yet it is being pushed under the rug as to not shame anyone... or something like that.
@Resvrgam
@Resvrgam Год назад
I disagree with Twitter being the genesis of “Millennial Writing.” I worked in game development before Twitter’s rise and had to endure insufferable Californian hipsters that spewed that awful snark from the narrative teams. Writers were often spoiled Millennials with a fancy degree from some overpriced Californian university. They all acted like uppity hipsters and many of the devs started becoming passive-aggressive around that time as well (2007-2014). All of our media and creative industries have been infiltrated and hijacked by these obnoxious cnts. It REALLY makes it difficult to enjoy hobbies I once loved. No wonder there has been such a renaissance in retro-gaming these past years.
@elisehalflight
@elisehalflight Год назад
And indies, don't forget about those!
@drunkencowboyagni
@drunkencowboyagni Год назад
Yeah, and don't think foreign games are safe. The translators are doing the same shit. No end in sight either.
@ChangedWinds
@ChangedWinds Год назад
@@drunkencowboyagni Me: enjoying an online game cause it's kinda fun and both my child and I can play it together. My child: Xinyan should've been more darker skinned Even casual foreign games with a half way decent plot are getting the nu-American writing style treatment
@theobell2002
@theobell2002 Год назад
@@ChangedWinds What the hell is the "un-American writing style treatment"?
@b1ackgamma
@b1ackgamma Год назад
you might be on to something, remember ad's that would target teen that tried to relate? those ads are cringe because it use millennial writing
@SilentInsanity369
@SilentInsanity369 Год назад
“they do these political things, not because they have anything to say, but because they think they need to say something.” perfectly describes this trend.
@wezerd
@wezerd Год назад
"Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something." -Plato
@DevineInnovations
@DevineInnovations Год назад
Because talking about politics makes them feel smart. Just like violence and swearing makes them feel mature.
@volundrfrey896
@volundrfrey896 Год назад
The funniest thing about it that they often pick "capitalism" to be the political boogie man. But they don't really understand what capitalism is so half the time they defend it half the time they oppose it. They just throw in some post-modern political terms to hope people will be too confused to understand that they don't know what they're talking about, because it works on them on twitter.
@End3rDJgaming
@End3rDJgaming Год назад
It comes from schooling. Along with intersectionality, they started teaching that saying nothing is agreeing with the status quo. So unless you wanna be the bad guy, you have to actively talk about how much you hate them and want progress. 's pretty fucked if you think about it.
@BigWheel.
@BigWheel. Год назад
@@End3rDJgaming I've always resented that notion and think people who follow it are unintelligent.
@ragnarcadogan4196
@ragnarcadogan4196 7 месяцев назад
I swear Borderlands 4 is probably going to have a skibidi Toilet easter egg
@eeyorehaferbock7870
@eeyorehaferbock7870 6 месяцев назад
Considering that you can already find loot in toilets, you might be onto something there.
@kamemesg2083
@kamemesg2083 2 месяца назад
No way, too funny for these people. Skibidi Toilet is problematic and racist.
@da_purple_lizard
@da_purple_lizard 2 месяца назад
That'd be gen alpha writing. And I'm not sure they'd be able to make a game more complex than the mobile hypercasual slop of "character runs through gates with numbers written on them".
@kamemesg2083
@kamemesg2083 2 месяца назад
@@da_purple_lizard Still better than what we have now
@guccimalcs
@guccimalcs Месяц назад
Let the kids have their skibidi toilet, man. It’s just a dumb joke. We had our own dumb shit we liked as well. Let them be kids
@igooog
@igooog Год назад
"The writers just expect that we care about these characters" That is one of the single most important roots to the issue, honestly.
@grimgrahamch.4157
@grimgrahamch.4157 9 месяцев назад
Yiik comes to mind. Especially when the writer for that game called the many MANY people who criticized his writing as children who want toys, not art.
@TaRAAASHBAGS
@TaRAAASHBAGS 8 месяцев назад
@@grimgrahamch.4157 Sounds like he was totally Yiiking out
@Krustyplayboy
@Krustyplayboy 8 месяцев назад
I don’t care about real people why would I care about your fake ones ya know
@publiusventidiusbassus1232
@publiusventidiusbassus1232 8 месяцев назад
​@@Krustyplayboythat's unironically what a millenial writer would say
@cam5816
@cam5816 8 месяцев назад
Good point!
@fbi3526
@fbi3526 Год назад
Millennial game writers trying their hardest not to create the most boring and unfunny characters for 10 seconds(very hard challenge)
@jonsnow9659
@jonsnow9659 Год назад
is what you said Millennial speak or Gen-Z speak?
@superbodoque7860
@superbodoque7860 Год назад
*dies*
@mightquinnable
@mightquinnable Год назад
@@jonsnow9659it’s millennial, cause the writers in question are in they early 40’s most of the time. It’s their awful attempt at appealing to zoomers.
@TacticalReaper56
@TacticalReaper56 Год назад
@@jonsnow9659 millennials ruined SM. I was born in the in-between stage of them so I got to watch all their BS unfold. They are a stain on this planet and ultimately can't do shit until they bitch or moan enough. That's just a fact, I've yet to meet a millennial that is emotionally stable or able to critically think about situations separating thought from feeling. It's disgusting and disturbing how up their own ass they can be
@Stryfe52
@Stryfe52 Год назад
@@mightquinnable I think he meant the meme, unless you mean the meme too?
@tonybamanabonitomatopowers6057
This modern writing reminds me of how 2000's Nickelodeon sitcoms were written. Everything is said with a quip on top of layers of sarcasm. Characters will sometimes just yell and the humor often relied on being weird instead of being funny. Only thing is, shows like iCarly and Victorious are meant for children in elementary school. All of the games that take this form of writing are M rated games intended for adults.
@rachelmayes3064
@rachelmayes3064 Год назад
The kids raised on that grew up.
@alrightsquinky7798
@alrightsquinky7798 Год назад
Good point. Thank God I never watched those shows. Even me as a kid thought they looked weird.
@HighLifeProds17
@HighLifeProds17 Год назад
These people probably never learned that that wasn't how other people actually talked in real life, they themselves being "keyboard warriors" and all...
@-lord1754
@-lord1754 Год назад
@@alrightsquinky7798 I was forced to watch it cause of my sister ive always hated it lol
@stockinganarchy4720
@stockinganarchy4720 Год назад
glad i grew up on south park and gta lmao (never thought i'd say this)
@null-xf9pd
@null-xf9pd 7 месяцев назад
"erm, morty, God is dead morty, the government is bad morty, *burp* people are never good morty, it's always for money morty. I'm so much smarter than anyone morty and I hate myself" they think themselves smarter than anyone, but still feel they aren't fully recognized for it. They're victims of someone who's stopping them from a potential they don't even know about
@foxboy6145
@foxboy6145 6 месяцев назад
We need more media that showcases hope and showing people who, even as their struggles drag them down, they still do it because either it's the right thing, or because they know someone is counting on them. We need more heroes who do things for others, not just themselves. Nowadays, we're getting nihilistic, narcissistic jerks who can't shut up and are more interested in their own self-interests.
@drumnbasssakuga9352
@drumnbasssakuga9352 6 месяцев назад
it’s because they see themselves as more sophisticated and less simpleminded than their boomer parents, but exactly like those parents they just regurgitate the consensus of their generation… boomers are always saying some bs about “the new generation is soft” and millenials are always saying some bs about late stage capitalism and developmental trauma
@ajasilikonreffkmimmon
@ajasilikonreffkmimmon 3 месяца назад
Born from their lack of goodwill, I assume.
@Grimmlocked
@Grimmlocked 3 месяца назад
@@foxboy6145 We need Superman
@flowerbloom5782
@flowerbloom5782 3 месяца назад
God I don’t know why so many commentary streamers sound like this. They do the burping too and it sounds so braindead.
@adamaccountname
@adamaccountname Год назад
It's basically people who don't read adult books writing. They've never encountered a moral quandary that they couldn't solve or a paradox. They read books like twilight and hunger games with no complexity or challenge
@PaladinHD
@PaladinHD Год назад
They learned how to "write" from watching Marvel movies lol. They have probably never studied the craft in any depth and are hired based on a diversity standard...
@adamaccountname
@adamaccountname Год назад
@@PaladinHD given how the new dnd movie is literally marvel with a coat of fantasy paint I agree
@coboby3347
@coboby3347 Год назад
It's mostly people in their mid to late thirties that either don't read at all or exclusively read YA
@adamaccountname
@adamaccountname Год назад
@@coboby3347 we're in the post hunger games and twilight years
@deriznohappehquite
@deriznohappehquite Год назад
DUDE i just LOVE the hustle and bustle of the big city, it’s so DYNAMIC and makes me feel like i’m in one of my favourite TV SHOWS. you should totally come on down to my studio apartment, it’s got EXPOSED RED BRICK walls and everything, we can crack open a nice hoppy ipa or three and get crazy watching some cartoons on adult swim! and dude, dude, DUDE, we have GOTTA go down to the barcade- listen here, right, it’s a BAR where us ADULTS who do ADULTING can go DRINK. BUT!!!! it’s also an ARCADE like when we were kids, so we can play awesome VIDEO GAMES, without dumb kids bothering us. speaking of which megan and i have finally decided to tie the knot- literally -we’re both getting snipped tomorrow at the hospital, that way we can save money to spent more on ourselves and our FURBABIES. i’m fuckin JACKED man, i’m gonna SLAM this craft beer and pop open another one!!!
@ManOfSdeel
@ManOfSdeel Год назад
It's not that millennials are bad writers. It's that millennials can BE as bad a writer as they want and still keep their job.
@JDoe-gf5oz
@JDoe-gf5oz Год назад
Oldest millennials are in their 40s now. Statistically there have to be at least some good writers among them.
@ahuramazda2252
@ahuramazda2252 Год назад
I think it's both. Mostly because of shitty culture that millennials grew up on unlike their predecessors.
@andrewarbeit5393
@andrewarbeit5393 Год назад
That’s changing as we speak. This strike is the culling
@jamesbackstar8285
@jamesbackstar8285 Год назад
Statement accurate asf
@TheGraveyarder
@TheGraveyarder Год назад
@@andrewarbeit5393the industry is just replacing them with ai machines who are programmed to steal the writing styles from the bad writers 🙃 we're still going to get millennial writing but its just written by a robot
@psully212
@psully212 Год назад
This generation is like what Monsters Inc would look like if the monsters all had to mine cringe to power their infrastructure instead of screams.
@garmmermibe5397
@garmmermibe5397 Год назад
Holy shit, lmaoooo!
@mrjohnnyk
@mrjohnnyk Год назад
Made me lol
@donweatherwax9318
@donweatherwax9318 Год назад
Pretty sure that actually happened. That's what John "Hugs Not Drugs!" Lasseter was warning us about in _Monsters, Inc.._ But we didn't listen, and now we're paying the price.
@Winasaurus
@Winasaurus Год назад
"This one's not giving us any juice!" "Don't destroy the door, get him a twitter account!"
@fojisan2398
@fojisan2398 Год назад
If they had to harness cringe then the Monsters Inc universe would be a utopia.
@sugreev2001
@sugreev2001 3 месяца назад
>character HAS to make a political statement even when it has nothing to do with the plot >mc is left leaning and antag is right leaning >black character can't go 2 seconds without mentioning white people >male nudity good female nudity bad >tradional gender role archetypes bad >villain is a mass murderer psycopath but draws the line at making racist remarks
@oongloose-moogloose-rl3dm
@oongloose-moogloose-rl3dm 2 месяца назад
sweetbabyinc just called you for a job interview
@jasperjackson8842
@jasperjackson8842 2 месяца назад
do you just want the enemies in videogames to start being racist out of nowhere? What does that even mean?
@jasperjackson8842
@jasperjackson8842 2 месяца назад
"and now my masterplan comes to fruition and I will cause global extinction! also its just a word! if they can say it why cant I say it?"
@kingt0295
@kingt0295 2 месяца назад
Lmfao true, a lot of writers genuinely think racism is an irredeemable character trait in a story then 5 seconds later redeem the murderous villain for example.
@nick-uh7cd
@nick-uh7cd 2 месяца назад
​@jasperjackson8842 yes that would be awesome
@dukedex5043
@dukedex5043 11 месяцев назад
Being quirky loses it's charm when it becomes vindictive and condescending.
@mohannadalshamrani199gmail
@mohannadalshamrani199gmail 11 месяцев назад
That's the best way to explain it, bro
@lasarousi
@lasarousi 8 месяцев назад
Evil can also be quirky, the problem is that these writers equate quirkiness with minorities and victims because they see themselves as anything but the bad guy.
@HiGlowie
@HiGlowie 8 месяцев назад
@@lasarousibingo. Too many people obsess over skin color/gender/orientation when personality and character is what actually matters and should be focused on
@JCTBomb
@JCTBomb 7 месяцев назад
Yes!! Well said!
@thequinlanshow3326
@thequinlanshow3326 7 месяцев назад
​​​@@S_F_SThis!!!! This!!!! This!!!! Shut up man Jesus christ
@nosleepgang3771
@nosleepgang3771 Год назад
The popularisation of dead pool humour and laugh tracks has done irreparable damage to society
@B_C1109
@B_C1109 Год назад
Yes, blame an actually funny character for society's bad humour now.
@aidanandreasen2611
@aidanandreasen2611 Год назад
What's funny about that association is that laugh tracks have actually declined in popularity. I think Deadpool-style meta humor is closer to a current generation replacement for what would once have been a laugh track.
@nosleepgang3771
@nosleepgang3771 Год назад
@@aidanandreasen2611 yeah I was mostly critiquing Big Bang theory which I think is one of the more recent shows that beat the laugh track to death and back
@nosleepgang3771
@nosleepgang3771 Год назад
@@B_C1109 dead pool is a great film but I think too many people thought they could finesse the deadpool humour in their own content and it falls really flat
@Shin_Mothra
@Shin_Mothra Год назад
​@Mirage Funny the first time, maybe.
@Ripotes
@Ripotes Год назад
The scene in Saints Row 3 where they rob a bank dressed in their own merchandise and Johnny Gat is wearing a mask of his own head to hide his identity is a more nuanced critique of capitalism than every single line about capitalism in the new game put together
@vinegar4556
@vinegar4556 Год назад
Same goes for the second game, with Dane Vogel. Not exactly subtle, but still manages to say so much more without ever having to explicitly call it out.
@ngmajora6986
@ngmajora6986 Год назад
@@vinegar4556 Saints 2 is literally a game about gentrification and a ton of other shit and handles it with significantly more nuance than nu saints ever could
@Pragabond
@Pragabond Год назад
@Antonio Gramsci I agree it should've been taught to blue collar workers instead. That's kind of the people who benefit from it the most and really the backbone to any meaningful change when it comes to working people being treated better. Which is also why its the most important group to keep uninterested in it because the only people talking about it are the complete opposite of them. People who want to sound smart more than they want to talk to a person like a person. No mechanic, no landscaper, no framer, no electrician I've ever met is going to be convinced by: "No you don't understand. Grasping the inherently exploitative nature of late stage capitalism and the class struggle between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie is vital to achieving class consciousness and retaking the means of production for the working class. You need to look at the imperialist cultural hegemony with a critical lens to free yourself from the WAGE SLAVERY INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM." "Cool thanks I am wildly not fucking interested in anything you said" "BUT DIACLECTIC MATERIALISM. LABOR THEORY OF VALUE. P R A X I S." It would be super helpful if people stopped talking about this shit entirely by smelling their own farts and hoping the other guy digs the smell too.
@thegrim418
@thegrim418 Год назад
@@Pragabond That's the issue though. The entire idea was made by lazy educated people who believed they were part of the lower classes because they weren't successful. This is why it always devolves into bloody chaos. Because it isn't about the poor being treated better, it's about causing enough discontent to get people to overthrow the existing structure so the upper middle class revolutionaries can seize power and promptly push their pawns back into their places.
@nopenope2550
@nopenope2550 Год назад
@@Pragabond There are ways to critique capitalism (which is just the communist scare word for the free market, but let's not get bogged down in that) without being anti-capitalist. I'm from the blue collar background you're referencing and I have plenty of critiques of our system, wealth inequality being a serious issue for instance, but that doesn't make me an anti-capitalist. Anti-capitalism isn't ever going to appeal to people like me because it's inherently a white collar ideology created by ivory tower freaks who've never done an honest day's work in their life. Pseudo-intellectualism isn't a bug of the ideology, it's a feature, and not even that we don't understand what terms like Praxis or Materialism mean either. We just don't care. We're not revolutionaries nor do we want to be. We just want to be fairly compensated for our work and left alone, that's it.
@7milesdavis
@7milesdavis 3 месяца назад
There is no sincerity anymore. Everything is sarcastic and quippy. If something is presented as sincere then it’s “wholesome.” Whatever the f@ck that means.
@7milesdavis
@7milesdavis 3 месяца назад
@Elemental627 Definitely, I skipped baldur’s gate. Chained Echoes, Sea of Stars, eiyuden chronicles, I skipped all of them because of the weird modern dialogue. It doesn’t work in a fantasy setting and comes off as annoying.
@plaguis369
@plaguis369 29 дней назад
I hate that fucking "wholesome" term
@randommadman7348
@randommadman7348 10 месяцев назад
"Erm. Okay. THAT just happened. Lets unpack this. (Insert meme/reference that either died 6 months ago or will die in 2 weeks here)"
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 8 месяцев назад
I cannot wait for the day zoomerspeak and zoomer culture is mocked just like millennial shit is.
@joshuafischer684
@joshuafischer684 7 месяцев назад
Yikes 100 Keanu Chungus Le Heckin Cuckolderino
@GuiltyNoticer
@GuiltyNoticer 6 месяцев назад
"lets unpack this" "hope this helps" "that's gonna be a big yikes from me dawg" "ok sweetie"
@schnek8927
@schnek8927 4 месяца назад
Six months? Try six years.
@helloneighbour2408
@helloneighbour2408 4 месяца назад
''jesse what the hell are you talking about''
@contrapposto4636
@contrapposto4636 Год назад
I’m sick of seeing cringey millennial quips and baby talk and annoying trends everywhere. It really annoys me and pisses me off
@deriznohappehquite
@deriznohappehquite Год назад
What being childless does to a MF.
@sintheemptyone8108
@sintheemptyone8108 Год назад
I'm honestly more sick of these people whining about me writing full sentences than anything else that comes out of their mouths. I can pass off everything else as much of my generation being social media & grass-addicted morons with no sense of sophistication or integrity whatsoever.
@forevertipsy3550
@forevertipsy3550 Год назад
literally i just cant. i dunno what yall problem is. yall be trippin LOL. i cant with this rn my sides my dude.
@AbrasiousProductions
@AbrasiousProductions Год назад
It sickens me and makes my hatred for society flourish, I'm glad I'm a recluse, it's better this way..
@forevertipsy3550
@forevertipsy3550 Год назад
@Elijah Boyd ^^^ This SO much ! Hot take bruh. Yall be impressin me wit dat literal cabbage vibez. Low key FIRE yall yall.
@pedrotbird5426
@pedrotbird5426 Год назад
I sure do love it when the greedy coorporations talk about capatalism
@Marcara081
@Marcara081 Год назад
By monopolizing its critique they're free to abuse it without fear of retribution. It's an old trick. This is why all the major criticism of government comes from secretly government-backed sources. In America, this is Daily Wire, MSNBC, etc. It bounds the narrative within controllable limits and ensure nothing effective is ever done (or realized).
@mrroger-t6m
@mrroger-t6m Год назад
It's kinda brilliant, they sell merch about "capitalism" to fund the capitalism , and the folk keep buying it xd
@pedrotbird5426
@pedrotbird5426 Год назад
@@ShowerCurtain1 Same I love it when they lecture about the importance of charity whilst sitting on more money a person could fathom 😍
@MelGibsonFan
@MelGibsonFan Год назад
@@pedrotbird5426I’m getting vague notions of a certain Turk streamer… Basan, Kazan…? Hmmm 🤔
@pfftnuffinpersonalkid1541
@pfftnuffinpersonalkid1541 Год назад
Marx actually made this point. Capitalism is so all powerful as a social system that it commodifies literally everything, even the movements that oppose it like Religion and Anti-Capitalist political movements. People are tricked into thinking consuming anti-capitalist products, is anti-capitalism instead of supporting it.
@LifeofSquidMann
@LifeofSquidMann 3 месяца назад
Imo it's the fallout of the 2010s' irony/cringe culture era. Fear of sincerity. Fear of being seen as "cringe" for caring.
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 Месяц назад
I am so sick of the "post ironic humor" era of memes and internet culture. I am so glad 2024 has started to show the signs of this era dying for good. its been years of this shit.
@whitemakesright2177
@whitemakesright2177 Месяц назад
​@@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 I'm a Millennial, and it seems to me that Gen Z are a more sincere generation than we were, both online and in real life. It's great to see. I'm also sick of everything being ironic.
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 Месяц назад
It's not just fear of sincerity. It's complete mockery of sincerity. Every potentially emotional moment must be ruined by a stupid joke. Everything in the story has to be slathered by a layer of metatextual "comedy" that ruins immersion. Heroism, family and basic human ideals must be mocked.
@Thetallguy_zz
@Thetallguy_zz Месяц назад
@@fattiger6957yeah sincerity would create stakes, which means these writers would need to take risks.
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 Месяц назад
@@Thetallguy_zz Yeah that is true. That's why so many movies written by these types feel so toothless. The hero (usually a women, "POC" or both) is flawless from the start and the villain is a one dimensional pushover. The conflict always seems to be, not the hero becoming better, but the world realizing how great the hero always was.
@Chrom4Prez
@Chrom4Prez Год назад
This is 100% a result of being terminally online. This is something I've noticed in practically everything. Hirohiko Araki (JoJo writer) wrote a book about how he writes manga and one thing that always stuck with me is that he mentions "he always take references from real life". If hes going to write about Italy he researches it, he goes there, has experiences and interactions. That was years ago, but for creators these days its not like that. If you've been steeped in your hobbies (video games, comics, the types of media were you see this decline) chances are you dont make a lot of time for living your real life. They end up emulating what they see and every generation past the original ends up as some kind of emulation of its predecessor. It ends up so far removed from what it originally was supposed to be that its unrecognizable. Being steeped in the culture of only your college, your friend group, or your discord server is going to ruin your grasp on whats truly enjoyable and leave you with what you've shaped your brain into enjoying.
@ChunkyWaterisReal
@ChunkyWaterisReal Год назад
*laughs in the byproduct of iterative design*
@MonkasHoode
@MonkasHoode Год назад
"The fourth stage is pure simulacrum, in which the simulacrum has no relationship to any reality whatsoever. Here, signs merely reflect other signs and any claim to reality on the part of images or signs is only of the order of other such claims. This is a regime of total equivalency, where cultural products need no longer even pretend to be real in a naïve sense, because the experiences of consumers' lives are so predominantly artificial that even claims to reality are expected to be phrased in artificial, "hyperreal" terms. Any naïve pretension to reality as such is perceived as bereft of critical self-awareness, and thus as oversentimental."
@lemmy154
@lemmy154 Год назад
Meh
@AllyMonsters
@AllyMonsters Год назад
No, this is 100% Joss Whedons fault.
@mihalekhale2590
@mihalekhale2590 Год назад
this quote is about anime but it sums up your statement "The problem with the anime industry is that it's full of anime fans" ~hayao miyazaki
@redtsun67
@redtsun67 Год назад
How ironic is it for a large profitable company to design, develop, market, and sell a product that says "capitalism bad"
@contramachina354
@contramachina354 Год назад
truly a mindfuck
@zachduperron8543
@zachduperron8543 Год назад
It’s like Diet Coke or Coke Zero, it’s marketed to be “better” than regular Coca-Cola but in reality they are worse than regular Coca-Cola
@JonnyHorseman
@JonnyHorseman Год назад
It's almost like they're being hypocrites on purpose and don't care when people "call them out" on it anymore.
@autokrator_
@autokrator_ Год назад
i fucking love the corporate aestheticization of resistance. they simply just pick up the ideologies of people who never really grew up, horrifically mutilate them, and then fucking SELL it back to them for extortionate amounts of money. and the fuckers they sell it to eat it up like it's fried chicken. we wouldn't have half the number of soyjaks we do without this.
@WhiteManOnCampus
@WhiteManOnCampus Год назад
It's pretty simple, honestly: communism is the best way to consolidate wealth and power while trapping everyone else in poverty and enslavement. These corporations are pushing communism not because they think it's a good system for their viewers, but because it's the best system for the wealthy to always remain in power: they're the Party leaders.
@rustyshackleford234
@rustyshackleford234 Год назад
I hate self-aware jokes, I hate meta jokes, I hate games based on LA culture, I hate modern social commentary. My main takeaway from this: I hate millennial writing.
@FerdarPleaseSubscribe
@FerdarPleaseSubscribe Год назад
I-I... yikes, you sweet summer child there's a lot to unpack here. Who hurt you baby?
@jackstraw4222
@jackstraw4222 Год назад
i hate it as well, thats why i dont watch any current shows on tv nor have i for years....but its also in commercials and music channels and that makes it even worse....
@xx-fz2ll
@xx-fz2ll Год назад
Meta jokes aren't bad it's just people forget the "subvert expectations" part of comedy like if u took 2 seconds to think of what the punchline is then you've figured it out it's only good when done properly... Shame it never is
@georgeschmall9254
@georgeschmall9254 Год назад
GTA San Andreas and IV were great though
@arthurpietrogarcia1057
@arthurpietrogarcia1057 Год назад
I don't hate this types of jokes normaly, Animaniacs(the original show) has all of this yet its Still Just as funny as silent cartoons.
@domi-no1826
@domi-no1826 4 месяца назад
toby fox/omocat did to indie games what mr beast did to youtube. they themselves didn't do anything wrong, it just worked too well and now we have...
@starfall179
@starfall179 Месяц назад
To be fair, Mr Beast studied youtube (like dream studied reddit lmao) and is able to utilize his knowledge about youtube to be successful.
@andrewsherman8574
@andrewsherman8574 Месяц назад
Yes Undertale did do something wrong. The moment a medium becomes about itself it fails to fulfill its purpose and disappears up it's own backside. Also its big takeaway is that players play games wrong. Completely insufferable. Really good soundtrack though.
@TheRealChrisHansen777
@TheRealChrisHansen777 Месяц назад
​@@andrewsherman8574 What do you mean, if you don't mind me asking?
@andrewsherman8574
@andrewsherman8574 Месяц назад
@@TheRealChrisHansen777 I'm sorry, you'll have to be more specific. Not sure which part you want elaboration on.
@TheRealChrisHansen777
@TheRealChrisHansen777 Месяц назад
@@andrewsherman8574 A medium becoming about itself, as well as a medium's purpose.
@SeasoningTheObese
@SeasoningTheObese Год назад
Politics in Metal Gear Solid: "The military industrial complex is a disaster for human rights, and one of the worst things to happen to the world. War is horrendous, and it's being marketed as a good thing" Politics in Millennial games from multi-billion dollar corporations: "Capitalism is bad, and racism is bad" *features a microtransaction shop, a literal token black character, and a season pass in a single player game*
@diablow1411
@diablow1411 Год назад
Exactly my gripe with "modern" games.
@evanabbott2737
@evanabbott2737 Год назад
Perfectly said.👍
@Dogy0909
@Dogy0909 Год назад
There’s a good tumblr post about Kojima that he created a brilliant series to comment on the horrors of war but ended up making everything look super cool as well because he has the mind of a 12 year old boy who thinks guns are cool
@adamiadamiadami
@adamiadamiadami Год назад
@@Dogy0909 That's the cognitive dissonance of the videogame media. It's fun to virtually point and shoot, unfortunately. I wouldn't put too much blame on that, however the symbolic/subconscious effect it has on people who play games is a bad thing - that's why the military industrial complex loves CoD. If I were a gamedev like him I think I simply wouldn't make games that involve shooting people, but that's not a way to solve the issue.
@anagoth9
@anagoth9 Год назад
Hot take: Kojima is a bad writer. There are certainly parts of each MGS where the writing really shines, but if you step back from the highlights and look at the games as a whole they are a needlessly convoluted mess filled with hours of exposition dumping. Kojima is certainly creative, no one can deny that, but the man is in desperate need of an editor and may be the victim of his own success in that regard.
@InkyBlitz
@InkyBlitz Год назад
>degree in English >butchers English on daily basis Can't make this up.
@SNC2319
@SNC2319 Год назад
Me fail English? That’s unpossible.
@astarteswillum5259
@astarteswillum5259 Год назад
An F in English? Bobby, you speak English.
@Nehfarius
@Nehfarius Год назад
Probably got that degree from a box of gluten-free Cereal(tm).
@brutusthebear9050
@brutusthebear9050 Год назад
What do you think modern English degrees teach? Not how to use English, but rather that any way of using English is equally correct. Except the correct way, because that implies you are better than others.
@InkyBlitz
@InkyBlitz Год назад
@Brutus the Bear I imagine it teaches rhetoric or newspeak if I might make a tasteless reference to Orwell.
@brycenlanager1216
@brycenlanager1216 Год назад
In terms of social commentary in games, I think it's the problem Tolkien brought up about hating allegory. He wanted his stories to have "applicability" so while you could see where he drew his inspiration from, the message fit in the world he created and didn't feel like a social commentary while you can see how it can be applied to real life. Now, modern writers don't have the skill to make something applicable without being a direct allegory or just saying it without even having an allegory.
@TheWeirdRealm
@TheWeirdRealm Год назад
I find that Tolkien's definition of applicability is so important for the audience or reader to feel investment or engagement with any given material instead of being bombarded with "propaganda" or just flat out flatulent noise. The former is how build a story and express themes while the latter is how you self-suck into hysteria.
@jesustyronechrist2330
@jesustyronechrist2330 Год назад
I think it's just the lack of structural teaching of writing. Milleanils get so many inspirations and tips and tricks from the internet that range from good to objectively wrong. Like what you're talking about: Allegory. While I do think there are allegories in Tolkien's work (in general the conflict between good & evil is an allegory), but Millenials make the connections to what the allegories are by the lowest commmon denominator a.k.a. the most lazily and generally applicable themes that you can say are "sorta similar".
@quinndepatten4442
@quinndepatten4442 Год назад
That's a really cool idea. I'll have to find that quote.
@HangmanOfIncra9
@HangmanOfIncra9 Год назад
This.
@BoleDaPole
@BoleDaPole Год назад
Ironic that Tolkiens work is now used in that very way
@felucca
@felucca 2 месяца назад
"It's very diverse... or rather, it reflects the demographics of San Francisco" THANK YOU. The fact that people in California make "diverse" media that looks exactly like what they're used to needs more recognition.
@somebodyfixmyinternet
@somebodyfixmyinternet Год назад
I've notice this trend in not only games, but movies too. Every line has to be self-aware, witty, and ironic. Nobody takes anything seriously. It drives me insane.
@axiss5840
@axiss5840 Год назад
The 'not taking seriously' is far and away my biggest pet peeve. Literally everything HAS to be sarcastic, because emotions are scary and we need you to have positive association with our product so you'll think it's good.
@krunkle5136
@krunkle5136 Год назад
@@axiss5840 so much this. It's truly a cultural cancer to have the irony throttle to the max all the fucking time. There needs to be poignant moments especially for characters or events the writer would least expect.
@taddonddat2217
@taddonddat2217 Год назад
What makes this worse is that all it does is pull you out of the fictional world they're trying to present. A glorified SNL sketch is what the story and its world become.
@NgaMarsters
@NgaMarsters Год назад
Taking anything seriously is boring these days apparently I mean seriously try and get a streamer to take a story based game seriously. It's a sad truth that most gamers want dopamine rather that something thought-provoking But it's been that way forever You better get over it
@krunkle5136
@krunkle5136 Год назад
@@NgaMarsters people should still always try to be better. It's harder to be unironic while maintaining a certain tone. Yes there's the real trap of being pretentious etc, but avoiding that's the skill of it.
@mr.peanutbutter6969
@mr.peanutbutter6969 Год назад
I love how you referenced Twitter and even 4chan, but you completely ignored the biggest elephant in the room; Reddit. The problem is that everyone wants to be the funny guy. If everyone is the funny guy, then no one is the funny guy.
@cheesegreater5739
@cheesegreater5739 Год назад
ThIs PosT RiGht HerE OffIcER
@mr.peanutbutter6969
@mr.peanutbutter6969 Год назад
@Cheese Greater it wasn't me. It was the one armed man.
@goobles3991
@goobles3991 Год назад
Pretty self righteous to think humor needs to be in short supply. It's not like a superpower which the original quote you referenced from The Incredibles is talking about (which btw is extremely redditor of you). I'm sure a ton of people can make you laugh, they're just not good writers. Conveying a humorous situation is what makes a comedian different from your hilarious friend. Reddit is terrible because there's no originality. I'm sure the first "this post right here officer" or "THIS SO MUCH THIS" was infinitely less cringe than the 5 trillionth time it was posted.
@mr.peanutbutter6969
@mr.peanutbutter6969 Год назад
@Goobles I wasn't saying reddit is a good place. I'm saying that's where you can find a lot of this cringe humor
@SirSaladAss
@SirSaladAss Год назад
@@goobles3991 Quoting The Incredibles is as far from Reddit-friendly as can be. That movie was inspired by Ayn Rand's books, and she's like the Antichrist for redditors.
@wtfduud
@wtfduud 11 месяцев назад
The "Problematic Accent" joke really pissed me off. Some people actually talk like that.
@Strix2031
@Strix2031 11 месяцев назад
That was the worse line in the video
@ZuluZizo
@ZuluZizo 9 месяцев назад
Italians are problematic now
@lonemaster9290
@lonemaster9290 9 месяцев назад
I'm sorry, but could you refrain from using language that may insult victims of beingbornwithoutabladderitis in the future? Saying 'pissed off' is like the N-word for the Non-Bladdered People.
@GayFrogsTho
@GayFrogsTho 9 месяцев назад
AY PWAULIE LOOK AT THIS FOCKEN GUY!!!!!
@Need_A_Newsted_Of_Strings
@Need_A_Newsted_Of_Strings 8 месяцев назад
​@@lonemaster9290 wassup pissed off
@Mac77_
@Mac77_ 2 месяца назад
The soyed-out rumpelstiltskin on the thumbnail sent me into the coughing fit to end all coughing fits. Before the video even began it was a 10/10
@Toactwithoutthinking
@Toactwithoutthinking Год назад
Man I sure do love everyone being a bitter 20-30 something urban millennial who lives in San Francisco, really gives immersion.
@horsemumbler1
@horsemumbler1 Год назад
Millennials are all 30+ now.
@wizajn
@wizajn Год назад
That would be 30-40. Millennials are old now.
@apuffin9545
@apuffin9545 Год назад
20 year olds do not talk like that
@sunsetman22
@sunsetman22 Год назад
@@wizajn in their own mind they're not
@pieterwillembotha6719
@pieterwillembotha6719 Год назад
20-somethings are zoomers you clown
@goodtaste2185
@goodtaste2185 Год назад
I think it comes from a place of being scared of authenticity. They have a desire to say what they think the audience wants to hear instead of what the characters would actually say.
@feluto7172
@feluto7172 Год назад
No you're completely right. Everyone is so scared of being themselves or offensive that nothing has weight anymore. It's like that uncanny 'camp' feeling you get from bad acting. How are we supposed to enjoy a story when the writers themselves can't genuinely say that they do?
@Jester4460
@Jester4460 Год назад
wheres herbert moon when you need him
@rustyshackleford5784
@rustyshackleford5784 Год назад
Redditors
@Dissenter
@Dissenter Год назад
I think it's got more to do with the type of people being churned out of these universities and cities (neoliberals). I don't think they can be authentic because most can't think for themselves, and those that can won't be authentic because of political peer-pressure. But some have very clear agendas that they follow in-tandem with other forms of media - and that's because of political activists and NGO's used by billionaires like the Rockefellers (and others) to force their politics into society.
@sacta
@sacta Год назад
Yeah. Seeing this video essay devolve into "It's the FBI, man!" was weird, although the initial points made sense. And yours is a fair extra factor. It's like how the MCU can't have emotional, vulnerable moments without undermining them immediately with a joke. Like they don't have the confidence to let the audience connect emotionally.
@ikhalid1418
@ikhalid1418 Год назад
this is a major reason why whenever a piece of entertainment shows any traces of good writing it's hailed as a 10/10 masterpiece.
@NicEeEe843
@NicEeEe843 Год назад
People are starved for talent
@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation
A drop of water for the thirsty masses...
@mrszmatan2727
@mrszmatan2727 Год назад
Sometimes all it needs are good graphic representations tbh, that's what happens often for movies or animated shows. Writing might be dogshit and generic but as long as it looks cool 20 iq amebas will love it, and they are millions
@ricovisscher5010
@ricovisscher5010 Год назад
like Billy Joel said: "I am, as I've said, merely competent. But in an age of incompetence, that makes me extraordinary."
@inendlesspain4724
@inendlesspain4724 Год назад
"In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king"
@commando6683
@commando6683 5 месяцев назад
I think you’ve forgotten another key social media platform that contributes to millennial brainrot: Reddit
@youngc570
@youngc570 5 месяцев назад
Much worse than tiktok.
@dejanjakobovic9803
@dejanjakobovic9803 5 месяцев назад
​@@youngc570both are just as bad as each other IMO. Reddit encourages mob mentality and circlejerking while TikTok fries your dopamine receptors.
@blok--head7472
@blok--head7472 4 месяца назад
Reddit should just be abolished.
@officegossip
@officegossip 4 месяца назад
It’s just a forum for hobbies.
@angel_of_rust
@angel_of_rust 3 месяца назад
Reddit was one-half of proto-TikTok, pre-exodus Tumblr was the other. Reddit only really became insufferable in the late 2010s though.
@ShreddedNerd
@ShreddedNerd Год назад
Forspoken is yet more confirmation.
@lloydpatam4189
@lloydpatam4189 Год назад
The fact that there is an option to disable the quips at all is funny. They know it would be a problem.
@MarkMightBeBetter
@MarkMightBeBetter Год назад
yeah, sadly. Sucks since the gameplay looks pretty cool.
@unknownwill4th549
@unknownwill4th549 Год назад
It will be "Forgotten" in a month
@ShreddedNerd
@ShreddedNerd Год назад
@@unknownwill4th549 It'll be unspoken because nobody's talking about it
@MoronicRoc
@MoronicRoc Год назад
Modern Sony games in general all suffer from this problem.
@Matheusss89
@Matheusss89 Год назад
Another problem that i've noticed recently is the lack of a good frame of reference for writers. Back then most writers i knew were at least somewhat well read and experienced. Some were really deep into specific subjects too, like history, or a skill. Nowadays it feels like their whole view of everything is molded by their social bubble, Marvel movies and twitter politics.
@SnibsnBibs
@SnibsnBibs Год назад
I saw another comment talking about how the old "write what you know" saying was cooked up during a time when people still actually had a decent chance at living varied lives of struggle and drive. It's very true, "write what you know" is actually more of a detriment when applied to people who basically just lounge around smoking weed and scrolling around Twitter and watching generic Marvel film 447.
@Roosterboi21
@Roosterboi21 Год назад
I agree 100%. I think that is why most new content is just a bad copy of something that was already popular. It would be like writing a time travel movie and only using Back to the Future as your reference point. Sure you could piece something passable together but you would be missing out on the countless other science fiction works on the subject.
@bake-io1cf
@bake-io1cf Год назад
mIyazaki often talked about this in regards of anime. All the golden age animators came from a wide background, were being inspired by other mediums, studied real life, were reading a lot of literature and then made up all the innovation in the anime industry with what they gathered. The new generation only consumes anime and only studies anime, it doesn't are about the real world or other art that isnt anime so the result as he puts it is inhuman, is regurgitating the same things in an incestual cicle but with less soul each time.
@SnibsnBibs
@SnibsnBibs Год назад
@@bake-io1cf It even applies to the anime industry? Damn. It's gotta be true though, I remember a lot of the most influential ones usually had creators with some pretty interesting backgrounds (or pretty horrific, depending on, you know... how old they are...)
@bake-io1cf
@bake-io1cf Год назад
@@SnibsnBibs Anime is not at all what it was when i was younger. Moe slice of life took over everything since. I'd say the golden age was late 80s to late 90s, most of the greatest creators from that time have died or retired (R.I.P Satoshi Kon and Kentaro Miura) . Expect all anime from now on to be rotoscoped/ motion captured CG and AI bullshit.
@manofonetitle
@manofonetitle Год назад
The problem with writers in modern gaming, movies and comics is this: the writers have never really lived. Most of them got hired straight out of college and only conversed with people in their own social circle both off the internet and on it. They never really struggled in life, they never explored new territory on their own. They never grew up.
@grandevirtude9830
@grandevirtude9830 Год назад
I was born and i still live in a third world country and it actually inspire me to make stories.
@kalkazar13
@kalkazar13 Год назад
You nailed it
@SergyMilitaryRankings
@SergyMilitaryRankings Год назад
Lmao first world people talking about struggle
@codylujan
@codylujan Год назад
Exactly. It's all just friend humor internet culture.
@frankn2441
@frankn2441 Год назад
yeah it rlly seems like a bunch of sheltered golden boys just decided to become “writers” for whatever reason.
@anonl5877
@anonl5877 5 месяцев назад
The way millennials on twitter talk about capitalism is hilarious to me, as someone from the former Soviet Union. Like, you think we didn't have shitty bosses?
@ΣτέφανοςΔημόπουλος-η7τ
@@texanarchy666 it objectively was , as an actual communist , stop with the bullcrap ''it wasnt real communism''
@texanarchy666
@texanarchy666 4 месяца назад
@@ΣτέφανοςΔημόπουλος-η7τ it objectively wasn’t a stateless, classless, moneyless society, which is what communism is.
@josephb.4640
@josephb.4640 4 месяца назад
@@texanarchy666 - Yes. You ARE asking for it, but you are too brainwashed by childish idealism and too ignorant of history to know that you are asking for it.
@asellandrofacchio7263
@asellandrofacchio7263 4 месяца назад
​@@ΣτέφανοςΔημόπουλος-η7τthe cccp definitely wasn't really communist since it had people in command and gerarchies, but still communism is plain and simple utopia.
@jcdenton6427
@jcdenton6427 4 месяца назад
​@@asellandrofacchio7263 utopia is a new religion to replace God for atheists. You can't reach it, ever, because humans are flawed
@tsurugi5
@tsurugi5 Год назад
it’s simply insecurity deep down so they mask it with ten layers of irony and meta humor and shitty quips
@piotr78
@piotr78 Год назад
Insecurities and resentment
@amongersus2893
@amongersus2893 Год назад
What watching too much Rick and morty does to one’s brain
@mups4016
@mups4016 Год назад
In my experience it is indeed insecurity. There's this mental block of writing dialogue that's just straight to the point or genuine feelings/expressions because writing non-serious quips helps shield against the fear of mockery. This style of writing is like a bandaid for your ego from the inevitable criticism. "if these characters aren't serious, if i don't put any effort, then it won't matter when people don't like it." And then add an overdose of corporate cynicism and you get these.
@Dhips.
@Dhips. Год назад
I used to love meta humor, I still do in some ways, but it's been beat to death now.
@freelancerthe2561
@freelancerthe2561 Год назад
@@Dhips. Thats not the real problem. Like most comedy, its when a concept is reduced to its most superficial elements, stagnates due to a lack of understanding by those who use it as a substitute for creativity, that you end up with something becoming stagnant. Meta humor and deconstruction require a strong understanding of mechanics behind a given trope, as thats needed to twist it into a joke. Meta humor as its referred to today "self awareness", is just calling out a trope and never executing it. Or worse.... calling out the trope, and executing it anyway. Its the lack of creativity to do something with the idea that makes it grating. Another thing to consider is irreverence. Despite what the name might imply, its entirely possible to mock something in good humor/nature, while still firmly critiquing something about it. A reoccurring issue I'm noticing with the current generation of writers and commenters is tendency to take things very superficially, if not out right literally. Its hard to tell if this is lack of understanding of the subject matter, or a lack of consideration of deeper concepts, and stopping the first emotional reaction.
@Mello_me
@Mello_me Год назад
I've become more and more aware of "Self aware writing" people who write that are aware of tropes and how stories work because thats thier entire life, watching shows and movies. think "oh is this the part where you save me because I'm the damsel in distress?" "oh youre setting up your character arc" "really? that's your character motivation?" but this video enlightened me to the rest of the problems. what I want to know is what happens when we get to the parody phase? eventually stories are going to make fun of stories that do this. "oh is this-" "yes this is the part where you say that you're aware of your role as the damsel in distress" "look guys I'm aware of how story works, thats funny!" I feel like dialogue is just going to implode. maybe serious scripts will make a return after that.
@ingold1470
@ingold1470 Год назад
The weird thing is that writers who lack real-life experience don't have to fall into this trap. H.P. Lovecraft was a shut-in who got his entire worldview from his family library and his works invented a genre.
@arc5015
@arc5015 Год назад
@@ingold1470 Sometimes I feel like there was some special ingredient to Lovecraft for all that though given the craziness of the genre. Inventing a new genre, like damn.
@benjaminchaulk6269
@benjaminchaulk6269 Год назад
@@arc5015 the special ingredient was not talking about it, as this ingredient was host to a litany of horrors whose very being induced a sort of spine-chilling itching that crawled across the body in waves at the mere suggestion of its thought. One can only shudder to imagine (and I feel sick even placing these words upon this letter) of what would happen should the secrets of this vile, contemptuous additive- I've said too much, they shall come for me now. I must make haste to the laboratory to find a panacea to this ill fortune.... Lovecraft's secret ingredient is his writing style directly reflects the fact that he grew up around high brow writing, but injects a very descriptive emotiveness to his work, uncommon at the time.
@ubrot7995
@ubrot7995 Год назад
@@arc5015 The ingredient is called xenophobia (and I mean that in a medical sense, so irrational fear of everything that is different and everything that you dont understand). Which is exactly the basis lovecraftian horror works on.
@zkme2734
@zkme2734 Год назад
remember Portal 2 and the whole "this is the part where he kills you"? But that was the only time they used that gag.
@DeviIGundam
@DeviIGundam Год назад
Worst part about this type of writing is that all characters TALK THE SAME. Having one is fine, if your other cast is (lol) diverse. However to these people diverse is different colors of people that all act exactly the same. So fun and creative.
@bob1986
@bob1986 Год назад
Yeah. Like Marvel films worked when Iron Man was making quips and jokes but almost everyone else took things relatively seriously. But because he was so popular, and his scenes were considered the best of the Avengers films everyone had to start doing it.
@Mike-jv8bv
@Mike-jv8bv Год назад
@@bob1986 it worked for iron man because tony did actually go through some serious shit was nearly killed multiple times. was kidnapped in a cave and forced to make weapons or be killed then eventually died by paying the ultimate price. So in alot of ways tony earned that right to be snarky and snappy, millenial side haircut character with nose ring however did not.
@Daniel__Nobre
@Daniel__Nobre Год назад
Marvel movies are indeed to blame for the trend, but I also think Diablo Cody and her Juno scriptwriting were probably one of the first instances to popularise this. A lot of self inserts, cursing for nothing and everybody just has to be witty and sarcastic to cringe levels all the time.
@amadeusagripino6862
@amadeusagripino6862 Год назад
@@Daniel__Nobre Diablo Cody, that's a name I haven't heard in a while. I agree with you, and I would like to point that both her and MCU started around the same time, around 2007-2008.
@Daniel__Nobre
@Daniel__Nobre Год назад
@@amadeusagripino6862 Oh that makes sense. I don't know why I thought the successful Marvel movies/universe came later, thanks for pointing it out. So it can well be a kind of generational thing/trend :D
@nocunt
@nocunt Год назад
“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. - C.S Lewis
@mrjohnnyk
@mrjohnnyk Год назад
Always loved that quote, it's spot on.
@spoovyfrog3393
@spoovyfrog3393 Год назад
lmao, wise quote but that guy still contradicted himself
@nocunt
@nocunt Год назад
@@spoovyfrog3393 in this context, "critics" is not the creator itself, but it is for the part of the video which describes the millennials, twitter users etc. in the need to feel like they're grown up. I may have misunderstood your point but that is my answer to the statement if any. did you mean that C.S Lewis contradicted himself? shreddednerd or I?
@thedukeofchutney468
@thedukeofchutney468 Год назад
@@spoovyfrog3393Uh how? There wasn’t anything contradictory in what he was saying. If you constantly act like something being “adult” is cool then you reveal yourself to be rather childish. It’s along the same lines of logic as: “If a man must say I am king, then he is no king at all.”
@incidentlyaniguana2193
@incidentlyaniguana2193 Год назад
​@The Duke of Chutney I think the contradiction would be that the purpose of the statement is to criticise the critics for being childish. Which, by his own logic, implies his childishness.
@CapnGinyu
@CapnGinyu 7 месяцев назад
Growing up is realizing Borderlands writing was always cringe lol
@TheSultan1470
@TheSultan1470 5 месяцев назад
Well there you go, lol
@celebalert5616
@celebalert5616 Год назад
"Get this .... shes a woman but shes TOUGH and she SWEARS all the time 😌😌😌"
@yetmoregaming3441
@yetmoregaming3441 Год назад
I enjoyed High on Life. I thought the gameplay was fun but the writing got really old, really quick. I would actively avoid using Sweezy, the vulgar woman gun, because she was so over-the-top crass and swearing nonstop. That really isn't funny or endearing if you're not being self-aware about it. I don't mind swearing in the proper context, but it reminds me of middle school when I think someone is cursing just to look cool or tough.
@Crime_Mime
@Crime_Mime Год назад
Yeah, I think the issue is while it would have been subversive, say, twenty years ago, now it's so common that it's bland, tiring, and uninspired. The subversion has become the norm.
@jefferyandbob3137
@jefferyandbob3137 Год назад
@@Crime_Mime and the people doing it still think they’re being smart and subversion, somehow
@Grandmaster-Kush
@Grandmaster-Kush Год назад
My peanut sized mind = *Blown*
@jart1984
@jart1984 Год назад
bravo vince, hire this guy to write on all of our productions
@ProfessorT_
@ProfessorT_ Год назад
I forget who it was who said it, but the quote "Nerd culture becoming mainstream has had disastrous consequences on western society" has stuck with me for a while
@reformedbroski8988
@reformedbroski8988 Год назад
Fax.
@DonVigaDeFierro
@DonVigaDeFierro Год назад
Nerd and punk have been appropriated by bullies and bootlickers.
@ShatteringKatana
@ShatteringKatana Год назад
Turns out things were better when nerds were losers, and I say that to my own detriment
@therealspeedwagon1451
@therealspeedwagon1451 Год назад
I remember the days when nerds and anime fans were bullied relentlessly, and I yearn for the day we can go back. And I say this as someone who really used to be into anime and was a social outcast, maybe that’s just me being a masochist though.
@internetgodlilbihh
@internetgodlilbihh Год назад
@@therealspeedwagon1451 I'm more of a hipster and hate seeing things I felt like was niche become popular
@blackrat1228
@blackrat1228 Год назад
Imagine a world where Joss Whedon pursued his dream job as a podiatrist instead of moving to Hollywood, we'd be spared the world we live in today.
@alfalldoot6715
@alfalldoot6715 Год назад
That should be the plot of the next Back to The Future movie
@IvanVKlik
@IvanVKlik Год назад
imagine a world where Seth MacFarlane didn't miss his flight 🥰
@MasterSpud
@MasterSpud Год назад
Where everything doesn’t need to have swearing every five lines to be edgy and cool for the audience, but it all sounds really stupid.
@henrytownshend6441
@henrytownshend6441 Год назад
​@@IvanVKlik even better
@EmberBright2077
@EmberBright2077 Год назад
It sucks too because as far as I can see, Whedon is good at writing, it's just he gets imitated by people who aren't so good.
@m0gi
@m0gi 7 месяцев назад
I had millenial friends who unironically just tell me to "do better." Why are these people so prone to throw judgement yet recieve no critique themselves.
@send_a_raven
@send_a_raven 3 месяца назад
that and "just be a good human". ugh
@planescaped
@planescaped Год назад
"Whether they themselves are infantile" Adults being manchildren really is the unspoken epidemic facing society.
@DeadPixel1105
@DeadPixel1105 Год назад
Yes. I am so sick and tired of seeing grown men who still get hyped about shit that is intended for children. A group of guys in their 30s: "Dude, that new Mario game looks sick!" "Yeah, but what about that new Sonic game? That looks good." "Speaking of Sonic, I wish they'd put him in Smash Bros!" "Well, Pikachu is in Smash Bros. That's cool." "Dude, I LOVE Pikachu! I can't wait to play that new Pokemon game!!!" "DUDE! I KNOW! I'M SOOOO HYPED!!!" It's so fucking weird. I know I shouldn't judge people, but this is simply pathetic. When I grew into my teens, I naturally stopped caring about the shit I was into as a little kid. I didn't force myself to stop liking children's entertainment. I just naturally grew out of that stuff. But grown men these days. I don't know what happened to their minds. They're stuck in this state of mental childishness. It's so weird.
@quademasters249
@quademasters249 Год назад
The question to as is why they become man-children. The answer I believe is that modern life has no real meaning. No weight. Fight club pointed it out. "“We’re the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War’s a spiritual war… our Great Depression is our lives. We’ve all been raised on television to believe that one day we’d all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won’t. " This is why so many men see no reason to become adults. It's just empty.
@adamcaldwell5646
@adamcaldwell5646 Год назад
@@DeadPixel1105 what do you do for fun then?
@bleeem
@bleeem Год назад
@@DeadPixel1105 But games liek Mario, Sonic and Pokemon are childhood classic for many, i dont get hyped for any of them even though i played them when i was a child, some people will get hyped because its a part of their childhood, from time to time my dad still pops a cartoon he used to watch with me in my childhood because he genuinly likes them and finds them more interesting than his repetitive cop show he watches to fall asleep. This idea that adults need to like adults thing aka live a miserable life is retarded, if more adults would actually play games to pass their time instead of sitting there in a sofa and spending 6 hours a day just watching mind numbing boring TV shows, they could have been playing a more engaging and fun game, because video games have surpassed TV shows and blockbusters in terms of quality for about 20 years.
@CrizzyEyes
@CrizzyEyes Год назад
@@quademasters249 That itself is a bit of an immature take. I'm not sure how you think that life isn't worth living unless you are a rock star, movie god, or millionaire.
@AJX-2
@AJX-2 Год назад
The best pop culture references are subtle, acting as a wink-and-nod, or paying homage to the writers influences. That TARDIS in Fallout 2 is a great example, because it's just there, it's not like the characters stop the action and say " woah, it's the TARDIS from doctor who, isn't that wacky?"
@hoppyhoppy9267
@hoppyhoppy9267 Год назад
Agreed
@jessip8654
@jessip8654 Год назад
Arcane does this perfectly. Plenty of winks and nods for LoL gamers, but if you're not a LoL gamer, then the winks and nods just seem like real good world building and it doesn't detract from their enjoyment of the show.
@BenHopkins1000
@BenHopkins1000 Год назад
Show, don’t tell
@NovaKaiser21
@NovaKaiser21 Год назад
To me the pop culture references in Fallout 2 are excessive. That being said, Fallout 2 is much more restrained compared to modern games.
@ingold1470
@ingold1470 Год назад
This is how WoW did it too
@frogery
@frogery 11 месяцев назад
i think the lack of sincerity comes from fear of being judged by the internet. it's easier to handle someone shitting on your bad jokes than shitting on something you truly believe in.
@DSPsWifesBF
@DSPsWifesBF 8 месяцев назад
Make white man bad, make woman/POC good = social media claps
@IrritatedIndex
@IrritatedIndex 7 месяцев назад
Good point. That might be why so many people just regurgitate memes. It is much easier to accept crickets when the joke wasn't a product of your actual wit
@marccamp6376
@marccamp6376 6 месяцев назад
Daaamn, reminds me of Sam Hyde when he actually spoke about the very same thing, about a teen rapper that 'joke-rapped half the way because he was afraid of being authentic and be mocked, so it's easier to produce parody gargabe that you can excuse of any criticism'
@joeyberg5765
@joeyberg5765 5 месяцев назад
As an unpublished writer, that is an honest fear of mine. Not the kind that stops me dead in my tracks, mind, but it's definitely caused some real anxiety. "What if this thing I've poured my heart and soul into just goes completely unnoticed," says the voice in my head that makes me lock up at my keyboard. "Or worse, what if it's just reviled? What if I become the next fodder dummy for the Rant-sona hordes and the video essayists? What if my first failure is so catastrophic that it's also my last?" It's kind of scary, watching the critic world tear apart people like E.L. James and Stephanie Meyer and the like, and all too easy to think, "well surely MY work is better than that". But is it really? Would I recognize if it wasn't? I'd like to think so, but I imagine so did the ones that got tossed into the wood chipper before me, and it sure didn't save them. I'm not opposed at all to criticism; it's a necessary tool for the improvement of any art, but social media is in a place right now where a creator's reputation of quality can vacillate between champion of their craft and incompetent, untouchable wretch at the drop of a hat. I guess what I'm saying is that the peanut gallery isn't throwing peanuts anymore, they're chucking white phosphorus grenades that burn the words "fell off" out of your fucking ashes, and it makes amateurs like me and mine that much more anxious to step into the spotlight with anything we don't know will please the crowd or not.
@asrieldreemurr1856
@asrieldreemurr1856 3 месяца назад
@@joeyberg5765 You're speaking my mind perfectly. On the internet, the worst, most vile crime you can commit is, apparently, being cringe. And people will gang up on you for sharing a cool idea/art that people see as that.
@kasperschaug1128
@kasperschaug1128 7 месяцев назад
As someone who likes to write, my greatest fear would be to discover that i've accidentally written something millennial.
@Whoisyou123
@Whoisyou123 6 месяцев назад
As someone who's drowning in watching anime for reference, I see no problem yet
@lamestudiosinc418
@lamestudiosinc418 2 месяца назад
A writer has no fear. Make what you think is good and fuck anyone else's opinions.
@riotghoul4237
@riotghoul4237 9 месяцев назад
a lot of this kind of humor (the made-up words, the playground insults mixed with swearing, the sarcasm, etc) was very popular on tumblr from around 2010-2016, when a lot of millennials would have been active on the site. combine the "tumblr residue" with the fact that they have to be ~cool and marketable~ and you get a lot of humor like this
@DSPsWifesBF
@DSPsWifesBF 8 месяцев назад
I’ve noticed culture catering more and more to the infantilization of people. Most mainstream media is so safe and feels like it’s made for literal children. This goes for AAA video games, movies/shows, even music has become simple as hell.
@katec708
@katec708 7 месяцев назад
yeah 100%
@Twiddle_things
@Twiddle_things 7 месяцев назад
It's the kind of humour that DSMP and HLVRAI fans have and I can't express how much I despise it. The aesthetic artists too, yk the ones. The ones who tween at 5FPS with a super desaturated pastel colour palette. Every one of these people talks and acts the exact fucking same there is absolutely no individuality. The neopronoun TikTok people, too. I don't understand how these people can all act the exact same and not feel ashamed. YOU don't have a damn identity. You're just mimicking what others say. How do you not feel embarrassed? All the same opinions and tastes. These people consume the same exact media too and love the same RU-vidrs. They latch onto trends and immediately adopt new bullshit lingo. "I'm a blurry fragment with somewhat of a name and personality /pos" "i'm stimming so hard rn,,," "WAAAAA EATZ !!! /pos /th" "omg ur stinky /hj" THEY ALL ACT QND TALK TH3 3XACT SAME I HWTE THEM I DONT CARE TAHT THIS IS OFF TOPIC NOW I HATE THESE QUIRKY ASS KIDS WHO ACT THE EXACT SAME AND REPEATEDLY SPEW THE SAME TIRED QUIRKY BULLSHIT
@Faygo2215
@Faygo2215 7 месяцев назад
The tumblr exodus is what caused this, if tumblr didn’t ban adult content this would have never happened or happened on a smaller scale
@Mothmann.
@Mothmann. 7 месяцев назад
Tumblrs death was a disaster and you can't tell me otherwise
@arathergrumpyturtle
@arathergrumpyturtle Год назад
Your final comments about telling producers to "unplug" is the most important part about this. This snarky, cynical, self-referential and ironic humor is because millennials (and probably gen z) are utterly terrified of silence. Of course a large part of this is from social media, but we're now part of a generation that has had most of it's life governed by popular media and the internet. You'll notice how much of this "humor" just labors the point beyond belief. It constantly has to explain itself. Why is that? The internet has an extraordinary ability to destroy diversity of opinion. You don't want to be "that guy with the bad opinion" do you? It's a hijacking of our innate desire for social conformity, but the internet puts it on steroids. This exhaustive, self-referential humor stems from this insecurity. They think if they can criticize themselves with their snarky self-awareness, then it will lessen the blow of the internet social conformity mob. So they can say "yeah dude, that was the joke all along." And that's what I mean by "terrified of silence." They can't bear to let a point stand on it's own or speak for itself. The awkward silence of people possibly judging you is what millennials fear the most.
@BlueTyphoon2017
@BlueTyphoon2017 Год назад
But, is that bad exactly? Like I think it’s human nature too some extent too not want to be judged. Is the only real difference that the internet has put it on steroids?
@TuShan18
@TuShan18 Год назад
@@BlueTyphoon2017 I would say it does because you’re not just an outcast by your local group, you’re an outcast to potentially thousands, which makes it feel more serious. At least, that’s how I view it.
@Damian_1989
@Damian_1989 Год назад
That just makes me intentionally want to be "that guy with a bad opinion" more, no matter how much the oof/um/yikes "people" get mad about it
@Shrek_es_mi_pastor
@Shrek_es_mi_pastor Год назад
@@Damian_1989 Que no implique decir que el bicho es mejor que Messi o que Pelé es mejor que Maradona por favor
@taddonddat2217
@taddonddat2217 Год назад
As someone who is gen z, from what I've seen, in general gen z likes that type of humor and writing but not when everything has that. Then it becomes too much and we get fed up. It ends up getting stale so many people from my generation end up playing older games or multiplayer games/games with multiplayer modes. The people from gen z that eats this type of writing up every single time have been people that follow Millennials that have influenced them on social media. The same Millennials who are also on Twitter for what seems like 24/7.
@dooggo-1402
@dooggo-1402 6 месяцев назад
One thing I've noticed about Millennial Writing, is that it tends to be ironic, in an lame attempt to be seen as funny and good. Of course, this irony in truth, genuinely stems from the Writers own insecurities in the fact that they can't take their own writing seriously. So they're craving for validation from YOU, the Player, to say their "Ironic" writing is good and funny writing.
@kap1618
@kap1618 6 месяцев назад
Sincerity requires vulnerability and openness, which is why it's scary to some people. Irony is easy.
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
I think one of the main problems with millennial writing is that it focuses so much on subverting expectations and cliches that there is no impact to the story at all. Sometimes cliches and expectations are good to have and make a story work. They aren't always bad things. I mean at this point millennial writing has built its own expectations and cliches. For example you can always expect every woman in these types of story's to all be one dimensional, shaved head, condescending mary sues and have every character around them suddenly be stupid. You can also expect the art style to be the same or the humor to be random XD humor or unnecessarily violent and edgy. Part of me wants to say I can't wait for this era to die. But at the same time, Who knows what zoomer writing is gonna be. I just miss when people were focused on making good storys instead of trying to inject there life experiences everywhere. Also at 16:07 I really appreciate you calling this out. the whole "Video games have been always political" stuff was always just a straw manning of the argument used by people who want one sided politics to be shoved down everyones throats.
@probablynotdad6553
@probablynotdad6553 Год назад
You also can expect the men to be incompetent fuck ups who often die(abs if they're competent quality leaders that get shit done they absolutely die) and either don't get shit done or just fuck everything up/make it worse. While you can expect the opposite of the women, always get shit done, training, experience, odds of actually winning against whatever challenge they face? All irrelevant you bigot, we've got a patriarchy to smash.
@probablynotdad6553
@probablynotdad6553 Год назад
Also, I'll add that zoomer writing is basically just millennial writing on turbo mode thanks to their tiktok 10 second long attention spans.
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
@@probablynotdad6553 Exactly. The worst part is I have seen zoomers think that suddenly when a previously established female character is transformed into generic "strong indepent woman" it suddenly makes them a good character now and fixes there flaws. They just removed all the flaws of the character and made all the male characters around them dumbed down. But then they just straw man it as "Gamers when woman are actual characters now" Its sad we used to laugh at people who where pushing this non sense and now people are just accepting it as it is. There aren't any good female characters anymore because they are all the same templates overused again. I am surprised women aren't offended by these characters considering its pretty much saying that they are so weak that everything has to be dumbed down for them so that they can look good.
@PickledKong64
@PickledKong64 Год назад
@@probablynotdad6553 frfr ong no cap
@12halo3
@12halo3 Год назад
Ya male charecters are never known for being one dimensional. The more things change the more they stay the same.
@Vantillay
@Vantillay 8 месяцев назад
I swear to god all of this can be traced back to the tumblr exodus during the mid-late 2010's, it feels like since all the horrible writers and cringy, aggressive, condescending and overly political people of tumblr left and infested the rest of the internet, this kind of stuff has become really commonplace. And now because it's spread so far more people began to adopt the same mannerisms. This stuff used to be ripped on in like 2014-2015 because it was so awful, I remember! it was actively mocked because it was just CRINGE. But now it's become commonplace and inescapable. It's tragic
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 8 месяцев назад
Exactly, People used to make fun of these people for a good reason. Now look at the state of everything since they have gotten power over the internet. The quality of everything has gone down and people just want to lie and say that it hasn't Nowadays making fun of those types of people is seen as "cringe" When they deserve it for the hypocritical and horrible things they want to do. its tragic to see almost every youtuber who used to stand against this shit suddenly change and promote the ideology of the people who they used to make fun of. They say its "maturity" But their is nothing mature about being a professional victim and treating everyone around you like shit.
@WingedFish66
@WingedFish66 7 месяцев назад
I'm convinced the porn ban and resulting Tumblr exodus was done for the express purpose of spreading that hivemind across the internet. Looking back now it felt way too calculated of an event. 5 years ago nobody except the most echo chambered and terminally online weirdos cared about pronouns. Now it's suddenly mainstream to the point where people have their lives ruined for not getting some manchild's made up gender identity correct? When NOBODY gave a crap about this sort of thing in human history before? Nah, something is up
@eeyorehaferbock7870
@eeyorehaferbock7870 6 месяцев назад
@@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778it certainly doesn’t help that a lot of the people calling each other out are functionally the same, as in: equally full of it in their own way.
@GuiltyNoticer
@GuiltyNoticer 6 месяцев назад
Just like the "revolutionary" boomer hippies have gotten into managerial positions of every aspect of our society after them done being edgy. Their losers kids, the millennials, now have to take the baton.
@RaymondStormbl3ssed
@RaymondStormbl3ssed 5 месяцев назад
I believe tumblr is also where the whole MAP/NoMAP bullshit started where a bunch of p3dos started forming communities and gave themselves a new branding to appear harmless and sane
@yevmann
@yevmann Год назад
I knew I wasn't the only one who gets annoyed by this "twitter speak" I rarely ever hear people complain about how obnoxious it is, or even point it out, so it's good to hear it coming from somebody else. I'm not even much of a gamer, but I know these types infest many drawing/ art communities, which sucks for me.
@taddonddat2217
@taddonddat2217 Год назад
I think "twitter speak" and "Millennial Writing" has been very much been something people are talking about a lot, it's just that the term people use for it is called "Marvel humor/writing".
@-lord1754
@-lord1754 Год назад
Um, yikes sweetie. Baby I literally cant believe you said this. On god fr
@lawfulgoodnun1646
@lawfulgoodnun1646 Год назад
"Twitter speak" is just aave. If you know what this is and hate on it, then your racism is showing. Yall dont know because you prolly dont hear it irl, so its whatever.
@taddonddat2217
@taddonddat2217 Год назад
@@lawfulgoodnun1646 What are you talking about? AAVE and twitter speak are two whole different things. Did we watch the same video, did we see the exact same example of tweets the video presents? Because from the tweets the video shows, that was not AAVE. How can you conflate the two?
@lawfulgoodnun1646
@lawfulgoodnun1646 Год назад
@@taddonddat2217 im not not talking about the examples in the video specifically, those arent aave. However most people who complain about "twitter speak" are really just talking about aave specifically since thats the most prevelant dialect in the context of twitter. Like the the guy above my first comment is literally mocking aave.
@sprostongreen
@sprostongreen 3 месяца назад
We now have an entire Star Wars show written like this, haircuts and all
@viscountrainbows2857
@viscountrainbows2857 Месяц назад
Not anymore 😼 and that's a rare dub for 2024
@FireEmblemElitist
@FireEmblemElitist Год назад
The sentence "tommy needy drinky" really changed my entire life
@JDoe-gf5oz
@JDoe-gf5oz Год назад
Makes you think, doesn't it?
@johns1625
@johns1625 Год назад
You can tell that Tom makes a lot of terrible puns followed by "I'll see myself out"
@BurgertubeFounder
@BurgertubeFounder Год назад
Me needy to be tommy.
@josephgarfield3363
@josephgarfield3363 Год назад
Took years off my life
@TheVnator
@TheVnator Год назад
I haven't finished watching the video yet, and that line sounds like something from Rugrats. Please tell me it's from Rugrats Edit: It's not
@notyourbusiness8475
@notyourbusiness8475 Год назад
I remember when i was a child, swearing with my friends made us giddy because it was so taboo, i guess. It seems that these people just never grew out of it.
@notyourbusiness8475
@notyourbusiness8475 Год назад
@@hungrycrab3297 just take a peak at reddit comment sections. They always make up the cringiest ways to swear.
@Marcara081
@Marcara081 Год назад
Consider the following: It used to be that writers would inject their experiences into their stories. But nowadays writers have no experiences. All they have is their 'experience' of reading stories. So they can't comment on life, only literature. So every character they write acts as a vessel to comment directly on the story itself OR on the situation as if it were a story someone had written. This is why characters are always removed from the reality of their situation and seem almost self-aware. They're critiquing it - often in real time, not experiencing it. Instead of screaming, 'Oh god!' as a monster chases them, they roll their eyes and say, 'How cliche.' This is the source of 'ironic' observation. If the writer can't explore the human condition by virtue of his lack of life experience, then he will use his storytelling to explore all he does know: storytelling. And by 'explore' we largely mean 'comment on'. We can take Forspoken as an example. After receiving the magical equivalent of an Uzi, the heroine is no longer afraid of zombie bears rushing her down. Instead, she quips. Why is the situation no longer terrifying? The author would naturally protest that she has the solution to her problem and is therefore 'not in much danger anymore'. But the consequence of her failing remains: grisly death. The odds of failure are largely irrelevant to the fear anyone ought to have. But this fails to be expressed because the reality of the situation, and the feelings of the character therein, are not considered. Instead, the story beats are the sole factor, without any time to allow for the heroine to adapt to them like any normal person would. In essence, a decent writer would create a character and by changing the story, would write how that character would adapt. These terrible writers presume that the adaptation is instant, as though the heroine has already read the script, and it responding NOT to her situation but to her position in the narrative. So the ideas of post-modernism, cynicism, and subversion aren't necessarily intentional. It's just what happens when the author criticizes his own work within the work. It's self-referential because they can't provide commentary on life itself, on real experiences: only stories. So the works of the author are always self-critical and the characters therein borderline self-aware. Which is why they often present as psychopaths.
@arkgaharandan5881
@arkgaharandan5881 Год назад
amazing post, i am gonna say something a bit off topic, i saw sargon on twitter saying that the reason leftists argue that black cops killing a black guy is white supremacy is because they dont see the police as something that could be created outside a western place, someone said this is crazy and reading too much into it and a few moments later a popular black activist blue checkmark literally said that the police is a european institution that did not exist in africa therefore having it and imposing it on cultures is white supremacy. The reason i am saying this is because i followed the guy before he had 100k subs and i have paid so much attention to wokeness that i can now predict how things will go Eg the new thing, say its a popular franchise is always gonna star a stunning and brave woman and replace the main character, all the men will be stupid weak or evil and all the women will be smart tough and no one would understand them because they are just so great and special. The new last of us tv show dedicated an episode to a minor gay charater. Here is my prediction, they gonna kill joel and replace him with this gay character in order to make the cast more diverse. New james bond movie is gonna be about a diverse group of agents, so its like the new witcher show, this is the agenda they are heading. Of course none of it will be serious, it will be full of critiques and quips and mockery and people like the critical drinker and mauler will praise games that are woke but they dont have cringe eg horizon, god of war while bashing the she hulks. This of course guarantees that tolerating lite wokeness is gonna grant you more wokeness. Everything these days is made to be diverse and has checkboxes of said diversity its a very corporate style of doing things but hey they are woke so they are the good guys and they get more money through ESG scores and checking diverse checkboxes. But the people who write this game either take it a bit seriously, in which case you get woke games with minimal cringe or dont take it seriously so you get games that dont take themselves seriously with maximum cringe. Sargon said to watch the latest matrix movie because its an admission and a documentary of how these people live. They sit there in a corporate boardroom trying to analyze the matrix which in the movie is a videogame so they can make a sequel. This is how the writer of the movie lives and who they surround themselves with, this is why everything is bad. This will not change until people reject the whole thing and the media defending them and not the laziest extreme cases, they must be rejected as talentless hacks or they will keep doing it forever regardless of not being profitable, it will become a habit and how to do things. In order for things to change we have to get better ideas from a foreign culture unaffected from these things, which is becoming harder and harder every day.
@andrewpellman6605
@andrewpellman6605 Год назад
It's truly ironic that the people who most often use ironic observation and decry the 1%. Are the wealthy 1% shielded in a protective metropolitan bubble. It'd be good for 'em to put their phone down and look around at the real world.
@makutas-v261
@makutas-v261 Год назад
@@arkgaharandan5881 I agree. I love the fiction manosphere but by giving attention to this shit we are only perpetuating it, by congratulating "what they do right", it's just fence sitting and scrapping for crumbs, like Thor_Skywalker for example he is a swell dude but being nice isn't going to get us anywhere, we should just stop paying attention yes everyone will lose subs and views but it's for the better.
@Pragabond
@Pragabond Год назад
I mean I kind of agree but honestly characters tend to act that way in most video games. The only ones where they don't is survival horror games where you're SUPPOSED to feel scared whereas this is a power fantasy. Games like this have always handled the switch from powerless to powerful about the same way. Haha funny quip you are STRONG NOW FEEL POWERFUL. I think you might be delving a bit too deep into that in particular. That and a LOT of characters in movies and games have ended up coming across as psychopaths for entertainments sake its been par for the course mostly always. If you stop and think about a lot of 90s action movies the characters murder some rando and then Arnie delivers a one liner to some nameless mook he just threw into a meat grinder and murdered horrifically. And that was just EVERY action movie from that time even if Arnie was the most prolific for it. I think we've definitely gotten better on the front of not making character's in movies and games come across as complete sociopaths overall even on the antagonist side since I see more writing where they're shown as actual people who've lost their way instead of inhuman monsters that don't really teach you anything beyond......don't be cartoonishly evil I guess? All that teaches you is that as long as you're not absurdly black and white monstrous you're not a Nazi, you're not a villain, you're not the bag guy because bad guys kick dogs, and beat women, and betray their friends. I've definitely seen a trend of much more human antagonists with actual lessons to learn from them instead of TERRORIST EVIL SHOOT THE EVIL Also funny enough there's another top comment in this section that complains the problem is people putting their life experiences in the writing whereas you agree good writing comes from sincere life experiences not from just making a character that's ironic for irony's sake or literally just a series of quips put together
@luisrodrigogarciaortiz7285
@luisrodrigogarciaortiz7285 Год назад
Indeed. But it's not only that they lack personal experience and therefore just reference the media they consume. Because another part of the problem is the media they consume. These writers are not searching for non fiction books, they are not looking for stories that challenge their worldview, they are not looking for novels written by third world authors. They just read whatever authority have told them it's good. They will cite and apply Terry Pratchett's writing philosophy not because they agree with it but because they think it's good and as good writers they must do what good writers do like joss whedon does. Same as Ryan Johnson when it appears that he writes subversions because only good writers do subversions.
@bud389
@bud389 7 месяцев назад
Here's how you fix it: STOP BUYING THEIR SLOP
@starfall179
@starfall179 Месяц назад
As if they realize their writing is the problem
@woyajud6757
@woyajud6757 Месяц назад
unfortunately, the general public probably won't
@boogame272
@boogame272 Год назад
Another point to add. Writing has become more and more humor to people who cannot hold a conversation properly. I loved that you brought up fallout 2 because in that game there’s a scene where an enclave soldier begins to become irritated really quick when you ask him who the president of the United States is multiple times. It’s the funniest shit ever and it doesn’t rely on shitty one liners. Just good old fashioned writing.
@schmecklin377
@schmecklin377 Год назад
Fallout 2 is a masterpiece of writing. Anything from Chris avellone is.
@bake-io1cf
@bake-io1cf Год назад
Ted Lasso might be the most unbearable character ever written. Every character in that show communicates through pop culture references and virtue signaling and its supposed to pass as a personality
@jakkuhl6223
@jakkuhl6223 Год назад
Oh yeah, you're right. "Enclave maincomm" guy was good writing. I always just thought of it as funny. Writing like that requires being able to put yourself in someone else's shoes, mentally, which I don't think the subjects of this video are capable of. They'd have thought, "durr, patriot American soldier man? He dumb! Make him speak dumb, and racist too."
@TempleofSolomon
@TempleofSolomon Год назад
“Enclave here why isn’t your video feed working?”
@TSMSnation
@TSMSnation Год назад
And there you go old fashioned writing that's not what this is It's new stuff that just came out get with the times bro
@sethleoric2598
@sethleoric2598 Год назад
Bruh this explains why i liked Smiling Friends a lot, it's dark and sometimes pretty creepy but also weirdly optimistic, the characters talk a lot but in an actually convincing way, like each other, and are actually trying their best to be nice or at least polite, and everyone has an actual design and not the same damn haircut.
@Strato_Casterrr9898
@Strato_Casterrr9898 Год назад
Zach Hadel, one of the creators, is an old breed of liberal. The ones who actually hate or just make fun of the new generation of the left. He's also very edgy and just funny, having his humor inspired mainly by Norm McDonald.
@RavenStation711
@RavenStation711 Год назад
You were so close but you just had to use "bruh," which is another extremely obnoxious millennial "word." But yes, Michael Cusack and Zach Hadel are fantastic at making anti-millennial humor
@sethleoric2598
@sethleoric2598 Год назад
@@RavenStation711 kool
@pieterwillembotha6719
@pieterwillembotha6719 Год назад
@@Strato_Casterrr9898 He's also a jew, so he strangely has a fascination with collecting memorabilia from the third reich
@Strato_Casterrr9898
@Strato_Casterrr9898 Год назад
@@pieterwillembotha6719 he's not a jew lmao, I think you are referring to Tomar. There's a running gag in oneyplays that they make references to tomar being a jew, in an edgy but ultimately harmless way.
@JarvisBaileyVA
@JarvisBaileyVA Год назад
I woke up to this when I finally started to notice so many rich celebrities complaining about capitalism on Twitter but still taking 20 million dollar movie roles and doing fuck all to actually help better the world
@nathanwagner6535
@nathanwagner6535 Год назад
To be fair, you’re allowed to benefit from something while still recognizing its faults and seeing how other people don’t reap the rewards that you do.
@diegodunn-humphrey512
@diegodunn-humphrey512 Год назад
Aren't you still a bad person though?
@AnEveryManJack
@AnEveryManJack Год назад
My favorite is listening to someone complain about capitalism with a background full of funkopops and nendoroids.
@Buttersaemmel
@Buttersaemmel Год назад
​@@nathanwagner6535 you're right with your statement, but i don't think it's applicable here. they don't criticise it in a way that respects the fact they them self actually benefit from it. but they rather make it seem like they're one of the many victims of capitalism whilste they're actually one of the problems of capitalism. it's like if McDonalds would complain about unhealthy food and it's effects on obesity.
@_Devil
@_Devil Год назад
@@nathanwagner6535 No you're not. I (blonde hair blue eyes) would benefit under National Socialism but I would still be openly against it because I know that it hurts other people. Don't try to lecture me about how bad Capitalism is when you yourself are the evil Capitalist.
@_ZimZam
@_ZimZam Год назад
Good writing might be getting rare, but it will never die.
@DoctorInk20
@DoctorInk20 Год назад
It just hibernates. Spring will come soon after the Millennial Winter.
@tomaszpawlik5091
@tomaszpawlik5091 Год назад
@@DoctorInk20 zoomies are much worse
@usualdosage7287
@usualdosage7287 Год назад
@@tomaszpawlik5091 we'll see
@legendaryweegee5331
@legendaryweegee5331 Год назад
As time goes on, the good pieces of writing will be remembered while the bad pieces won’t, and if the bad pieces are remembered, they’ll be used as an example of what not to do
@PrimusSwallows
@PrimusSwallows Год назад
It's not getting rare, it was always rare. Writers have been pointing this out since at least the 1800's.
@Sheek_y
@Sheek_y Год назад
I agree The literal problem is that these corporate entities think that the modern day Twitter user is what the average teen/young adult is like. When in reality people like this are the minority and are often disliked by the majority of people in the real world
@Beowulf__
@Beowulf__ Год назад
Twitter allows people who are bullied to have a voice. Unfortunately, all those people were bullied for a reason, and then you add in celebrities.
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
@@Beowulf__ Honestly, since musk took over those people have been losing their power. They all came from tumblr, but since musks takeover they haven't been able to really start any cancellations anymore.
@WarmToast707
@WarmToast707 Год назад
I blame this partially on the tumblr migration of 2018. A lot of the stupid stuff you see on Twitter really originated or at least spread on tumblr. when all of those people left Tumblr because of the NSFW ban, it impacted the anglophone Internet landscape more than you would imagine. Twitter is a “normie” platform compared to Tumblr so more people were being exposed to those ideas.
@Senumunu
@Senumunu Год назад
dude wtf. look at their employees. they are the people on twitter. you live in fiction.
@wariodedede
@wariodedede Год назад
"Not because they have anything to say, but because they think they have to say something". That's absolutely a perfect response about politics in games because a majority of the time it feels forced and you can see right through it.
@cmdrfunk
@cmdrfunk Год назад
It's the check box nature of things now. We got the black guy, check! And the asian woman, check! The gay character, check!
@AxolinaAxolotl
@AxolinaAxolotl Год назад
“wise man talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.” -Plato
@thinkingboi9508
@thinkingboi9508 Год назад
@@cmdrfunk Don’t forget that all of them are stereotypical and only represent a small part of the group
@kaiyotee2475
@kaiyotee2475 Год назад
The only time politics work in fiction is when it doesn't promote a sole party or ideology, but rather observes passively and allows the viewer/reader/player to make their own choices and develop their own thoughts.
@CivilizedWasteland
@CivilizedWasteland Год назад
It's like the humor from the 2000s but threatening and passive agressive
@stinkyfartguyofficial
@stinkyfartguyofficial Год назад
it's like the humor from the 2000s but worse in every way and not funny at all
@kevinkusman9137
@kevinkusman9137 Год назад
Culture, especially in the US, pretty much flatlined in the mid 2000s. For close to 20 years now, music, fashion and "Most" Comedy has either stagnated or is so bereft of any originality, its cringeworthy. In my opinion anyways...
@LifeofBrad1
@LifeofBrad1 Год назад
@@kevinkusman9137 Idk. I was in my early teens in the mid 2000's and I would say it was still a pretty fun time to be alive. Personally, I feel like the 2010's (but specifically from 2012 onwards) is when everything went to sh!t. That's when the popular fashion, music, movies, games, etc, started feeling completely alien to me. The late 2010's were especially bad. It was to the point where nothing even felt real to me anymore.
@RecordedMercury
@RecordedMercury Год назад
Hopefully the humor in 20 years from now will just be threatening. Which is pretty funny. It's like the IP address meme thing but on steroids
@RecordedMercury
@RecordedMercury Год назад
@@dongorleone8322 cry about it or something lmfao
@mhmtakeyatime9000
@mhmtakeyatime9000 11 месяцев назад
Ive recently heard the term "safe-edgy" and i think that's common now.
@mohannadalshamrani199gmail
@mohannadalshamrani199gmail 11 месяцев назад
Why do i feel like they're two opposites "Safe and edgy"
@covenantfemboy
@covenantfemboy 10 месяцев назад
​​@@mohannadalshamrani199gmailIts people who are fine with making fun of white nationalities but not brown people basically
@BLKKNGofficial
@BLKKNGofficial 10 месяцев назад
Those, don't even go together. How does that work???
@mhmtakeyatime9000
@mhmtakeyatime9000 10 месяцев назад
@@BLKKNGofficial I.. don't really know. I'd say it means only being moderately edgy?
@BLKKNGofficial
@BLKKNGofficial 10 месяцев назад
@@mhmtakeyatime9000 so like...Shrek maybe? Or shadow the hedgehog
@MajorSquiggles
@MajorSquiggles Год назад
Everything has to be sarcastic and mean spirited. All these characters across games, movies, and TV are just assholes to each other for no reason. And they think that constant stammering and talking over each other somehow makes conversation more real. It's the family guy approach to dialogue. Just keep talking and never shut up.
@GANONdork123
@GANONdork123 Год назад
This is what it is, being an asshole, regardless of all other aspects of a person, is what's considered "cool" now. Being sarcastic, cynical, and above it all are all now considered commendable traits by pretty much all sects of society. Some people will point to the other side of whatever political side they fall on and pin the blame squarely on "the opposition" but it's literally everywhere in all groups. Nobody can show weakness or vulnerability or even a willingness to grow and change, everyone has to be the big tough guy who's so big and smart that they don't have to take anything seriously because everything is below them. And the irony, nobody is allowed to genuinely feel anything about anything, it all has to be wrapped in 10 layers of irony because having a genuine feeling about something is "cringe" or whatever.
@Crime_Mime
@Crime_Mime Год назад
@@GANONdork123 Very true. When movies, games, etc. feel the need to shove "self-aware" jokes into their emotionally charged moments, it kills the impact. I get that some humor can relieve tension, but it's like audiences aren't allowed to feel anymore.
@girthquake1413
@girthquake1413 Год назад
I wonder if the sarcasm is meant to be some kind of "response" to the "parents", in an almost psychoanalyst way. Like "Don't you fucking get it boomer????" mindset that has been so aggressively reinforced over years of this that it just flows without realizing.
@axiss5840
@axiss5840 Год назад
It's nihilism. Everything is a joke, because nothing matters. Because the people who write this stuff now haven't ever lost something they cared about, or gone through a hardship, or built ANY sense of character beyond consuming media, which is why they became writers. ALL of their writing, and dialogue, and stories, are detached and meaningless rollercoaster rides with 0 stakes, because that's what it's like for them to do nothing but consume media their whole lives.
@girthquake1413
@girthquake1413 Год назад
@@axiss5840 I wouldn't go that far. Saying "X person hasn't had a hardship" is pretty fucked regardless of who it's against. But that nihilism bit? I could see that. I've known a few in my personal life who would use the phrase "I don't care" about a political topic as a defense mechanism, and they'd get pretty mad about being called out on it.
@tompycz2225
@tompycz2225 2 месяца назад
I think the lines about capitalism that don't really say anything are perfectly reflective of how the millennials behind them see it, it's just an accepted fact that capitalism is bad in their circles, something that requires no discussion and something bad things are blamed on without real evidence. Those people couldn't tell you why they see capitalism as negative.
@polishhockeyfan
@polishhockeyfan 9 месяцев назад
My favorite part is when you meet these people IRL who always complain about stuff like "Late Stage Capitalism" they are often the most consumer-driven, brand loyal, product obsessed individuals of the bunch. Yes, I'd love to hear the opinions on how "awful capitalism is" from a guy who's room is plastered with Star Wars products from wall to wall!
@kap1618
@kap1618 9 месяцев назад
It's worse than that. Its people who try to gauge other's moral worth by the products they consume.
@silverprimus321boi9
@silverprimus321boi9 9 месяцев назад
"Star wars" I fucking hate Disney for what they did to that IP.
@Toroleco
@Toroleco 9 месяцев назад
i was a watered down infantilized version of the DUNE saga from the start anyways. @@silverprimus321boi9
@blknmongl342
@blknmongl342 9 месяцев назад
Then they bring up the usual strawman of "you want to change society yet you live in one".
@Skyfoogle
@Skyfoogle 8 месяцев назад
conflating consoomer soyboys with far leftists is like conflating maga boomers with groypers. most marxists i know can't afford merch outside of pride flags and posters for an anime that ended 30 years ago
@Akiraspin
@Akiraspin Год назад
"I've told you before: the Idols are trying to build a post-capitalist society where money is not a concept." *I AM SUPPOSED TO BE A GANGSTER FUCKING PEOPLE UP FOR MONEY AND BUYING HILARIOUSLY IMPRACTICAL CLOTHING WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO THIS SERIES?*
@bake-io1cf
@bake-io1cf Год назад
the end result of liberalism is always an oligopoly. Liberalism is self defeating, it erradicates itself once the monopolies can form cartels and manipulate the free market. Right now the oligarchs are so succesful they can do social engineering and make a system much like the soviet technocracy but through international private conglomerates. In the most ironic twist libertarians are defending private companies right to exercise censorship and deplatforming while the state is the one who still guarantess in the constitution the right to free speech.
@realProVail
@realProVail Год назад
No common sense, no self awareness, and a sense of virtue that is falsely clouding morality. Yep that's a red flag.
@pennyprince
@pennyprince Год назад
​@realProVail funny enough your comment is the same millennial writing this video talks about. " Yup that's a red flag" is that condescending sarcastic language he's talking about. And "red flag" is one of those terms that's picked up popularity on sites like reddit in recent years.
@duskworker8469
@duskworker8469 Год назад
@@pennyprince you can't just make zingers off-limits because some people use them shittily
@urphakeandgey6308
@urphakeandgey6308 8 месяцев назад
I've heard some people say it's because writers nowadays have no real world experience. Writers back in the day tended to have an actual profession, field of study, or whatever on top of writing for fun. They have real life experiences and real people to draw inspiration from. I've met a few aspiring writers and they're just so clueless about so much of the world. They want to act smart because they can use big words or something, but in reality, they don't actually know anything and they just wanna be a writer because they consume media 24/7 and want to make their own.
@billjacobs521
@billjacobs521 7 месяцев назад
That's some of it. But even if you haven't lived through certain things, you can at least do research, or bring in a consultant. Writers used to work hard to figure out how to make things real. I've seen sci-fi authors talk about the countless hours they spent trying to learn about bleeding-edge tech or even just theoretical stuff, getting a feel for how it does or could work, and then implementing that into the story. And then there's the example of Tolkien; he wrote about 10 books worth of notes of backstory and history of his fictional world, and then wrote his novels, which made it feel very grounded. Entirely fantastical, but Rohan felt like an actual place and not just some guys over there somewhere.
@urphakeandgey6308
@urphakeandgey6308 7 месяцев назад
@@billjacobs521 I never said it was the entire problem. Obviously, I think a ton of factors play into this. I was just throwing this out as something that's probably having an effect. Especially in industries like Hollywood, I don't think writers in the top positions get there entirely on merit. A lot of it comes down to nepotism. Also, I'm not saying people need real life experiences for realism or anything like that. Genres like fantasy or sci-fi have nothing to do with my point. I've known aspiring writers that take too much inspirtion from existing media and almost nothing else. It's to the point I can usually tell what they're taking ideas from. Old writers seemed to like taking inspiration from their own lives and the lives of others. A lot of characters were also based off of people they knew. When a writer writes a story and characters that way, it's no wonder it feels more believable and authentic than when a writer basically xeroxes a previous work(s)... Then another writer xeroxes that... and another... until the quality deteriorates too much.
@MgelikaXevi
@MgelikaXevi 7 месяцев назад
exactly. They are boring and chronically online. They are web-dwellers who think that reddit or Uni made them into "writers". But unlike real writers who can share life experience, knowledge, ideas and their observations, these guys can only share with you the same beat-up dictionary and "jokes", that you have seen thousands of times.
@helloneighbour2408
@helloneighbour2408 4 месяца назад
This is right, writers took inspiration from their lives to write, while nowadays it seems that writers take inspiration from pop-culture and other books. It's a derivative of a derivative, there's no lived experience and they all seem the same because they take the inspiration from the same pool of information as every other writer instead of from their own perspective
@TheSpecialJ11
@TheSpecialJ11 3 месяца назад
The consuming media 24/7 is the problem. They're writing abstractions of abstractions of reality. It's just far less grounded.
@charmingpeasant9834
@charmingpeasant9834 3 месяца назад
I first grew aware of millenial writing in the newer Tomb Raider games. Lara Croft suddenly was swearing regularly at the most minute of inconvenience, when in past games she always acted like a classy British lady. I kept seeing complaints about how new Lara was 'Americanized'. Now it all makes sense.
@chillingchill6823
@chillingchill6823 2 месяца назад
man classy British lady protagonist sounds far better than the generic protagonist whose vocabulary only involves "fuck"
@MattJDave
@MattJDave Год назад
I think the core problem is a fundamental aversion to sincerity. You see, when you write something with sincerity, you're taking an actual risk. After all, if your sincere writing still falls short and gets criticised, or if a very vocal contingent of people criticise it loudly, then it's a big hit to the ego. Some people just can't take that. But if everything is bubble wrapped in a thousand layers of irony, you don't have to come to terms with critiques of your work; you can just be like 'well yeah, but it's all a joke/ironic/satire etc anyway' and never be, for a moment, vulnerable in one's writing. It's why, for all its faults, I infinitely respect, say, the writing of Sonic Frontiers compared to the writing of Sonic Colours, because even if, yes, they're writing about the exploits of some pipe-limbed technicolour rodent, one game still pours their heart into the wacky colourful talking animals while the other just elbows the audience going 'lol, isn't this fast spine creature so sassy? Hyuk hyuk, the evil scientist... has a moustache! Aren't we so ironic and cool?'
@aloe7794
@aloe7794 Год назад
This, absolutely this People making stuff dont really want to take risks nowadays since your ego is the most important thing and failure is the enemy of """being perfect""" So instead of actually learning on what they did wrong and hence improving, they simply slap the "irony" mark on their "art" and thus being immune to the "enemy of progress" that is genuine critique. And therefore never going any further
@vettie
@vettie Год назад
bingo.
@bigblue344
@bigblue344 Год назад
Funny you bring up sonic, its the reason why despite sonic 06 and Shadow the hedgehog being bad games they are more talked about and remembered then forces, worlds or colors is because the people who wrote sonic 06 put their actual heart into the games story and tried.
@MattJDave
@MattJDave Год назад
@@bigblue344 Yeah, Sonic 06 is clearly a project with heart and sincerity, just a botched one. And yes, that makes the failure spectacular, but at least it's somewhat vulnerable.
@taterboob
@taterboob Год назад
You had me until you started talking about the story of Sonic the Hedgehog.
@roach590
@roach590 Год назад
The problem is that most writers today are terminally online twitteroids, who don't know anything about the real world
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
We can thank diversity hiring for that
@yavvivvay
@yavvivvay Год назад
Twitter is a part of the real world. Living unplugged is a different kind of being oblivious by choice.
@jackstraw4222
@jackstraw4222 Год назад
its the same in pro wrestling..the hardcores would rather have a 30min match with no story,no interviews,no build and no commentary....just 2 guys doing acrobatic moves all the time...
@NgaMarsters
@NgaMarsters Год назад
They know to much more like.
@ryuunosuk3
@ryuunosuk3 Год назад
@@yavvivvay my mom lives "unplugged" and she lives well.
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