Milwaukee Drill Vs Makita Drill on the GRCS 

No problem!

You bet! I'd like to compare some other drills too. Just gotta find some folks that have them.

I'd love to try the Dewalt. I think the low speed on the dewalt drill is spec'd at 400 rpm. I think it has a chance at giving the Makita a run for its money 🤷‍♂️

Dewalt would crush both no comparison

I know! They came out with that right after I got the 36v drill 🤦‍♂️ I'd like to compare it. I just need to meet someone who owns one

I did a bit of research and have concluded that the single/fixed pulley did not change the pounds being pulled. That only occurs with pulleys that move with the objected being lifted (wish paid more attention in high school).

Those are great questions! Just to add a little bit to your research on question #1- the pulley and sling that mounted the pulley uo in the tree would have seen double the force read on the load cell. (As much as 4,160lb on the crank test) Also, I have heard of pulleys reducing forces but up to 10% due to friction. So theoretically, if we loaded the load cell with 2000 lb, there is a chance the capstan was loaded with closer to 2,200 lb. We just set the apparatus up like we did because it most closely resembled an arborist rigging scenario. 2) Yes. We used the low speed on the drills and the low speed on the winch. The makita will actually lift a couple hundred pounds when turning the winch in the forward direction, I just didn't want to get that in depth this time around. Thanks for your comment!

It can be a game changer! I hear occasionally about tree services they buy them only to let them sit in a corner, which is a shame. Once you start using it, it seems to become really handy on a lot of trees.

Thanks Pierce!

Glad it was helpful! I've never tried a corded drill so I can't really compare to that, but the makita has definitely been sufficient for everything I've wanted to do.

Ohhh, that makes sense why Makita chose to wire the batteries in series

Thanks Michael!

The makita 36v drill kit can be bought for $479 on Amazon and the milwaukee drill kit is $429 there. Maybe there is a place to get it cheaper, though 🤷‍♂️ I have a friend who has the 60v dewalt and we keep talking about giving that thing a try. Maybe I'll get a video made about it this winter.

@@zaccheus I would like to see how the DeWalt does. I have seen some reviews that show it getting in a bind and not moving Fwd or Rev due to E-clutch, but I would guess on a slow steady pull like this test it will probably work better? I do see the price as you reflect above. The first Makita I pulled up on Amazon had the bracket with it for the Earth Auger to hold it with. Man, have you ever noticed they want around $870 for that kit with that bracket? ($710 tool only). That does not even come with any earth auger.

This drill is my only makita tool and it's treated me well this far 🤷‍♂️ some of their stuff is a little pricey, but I've really only ever heard good things

Haha thanks! It's an interesting industry where we either use stuff we can carry or we use a 60,000lb crane. There isn't much in between 😅

Thanks Justin!

Thanks Greg!

That's an intriguing thought! I pretty sure it wouldn't actually make a difference. Rope stretch absorbs and stores energy, but it does not limit the amount of force that can be applied.

@@zaccheus makes sense.

@@buckinbrewer9354 where that would make a big difference would be in shock loading. I have another video where we dropped a weight on different ropes. The stretchy ropes developed less force than the more static ones.

Lolol, I'm not particularly interested in breaking my arm, but if someone had one, I'd be interested in giving it a try 😅

@@zaccheus when you end up down this way, I will go buy one just to test it lol, I want one just for the laughs anyhow perhaps use a sling or twelve tied to my skidsteer to hold it, ive got a dinky little corded ryobi hammer drill (2 speed) and itll spin me around, cant imagine the holehawg

Corded😂

@Zinan Watts the makita will definitely pull itself out of your hands if youe not ready for it. The drill being so long is a key part of being able to hold on I think.

Just search for "harken drill adapter" they're available from a number of different places

Haha, I hadn't forgotten about you. Thanks for the idea!

It is an absolute unit. I've never regretted buying one.

Yes, absolutely, 100%. It does take the right climber to make it worth the money. I use it all the time on trees that could have been done with a porta wrap. I can typically take bigger pieces with a lot less dy amic loading

I use it on probably 1/4 of jobs and it's very useful. Just be wary of branch kickback. I make the cut nearly to the breaking point then get out of the tree to finish breaking it off with the GRCS. I got my leg bruised badly when it kicked back when I was in the tree.

@4.0 GPA That's an excellent point about branch and frankly something I've been lazy about mentioning in my videos. I think the next opportunity I have, I'm going to make a video about how to make GRCS picks safer. As always, I'll hope that people will add tips and tricks in the comments to fill in the gaps in my own knowledge.

​@@zaccheus please do this. as a rookie who only recently bought his GRCS this would be huge for me.

@Rory McVay Haha thanks for the vote.

I'm working to set up a video with a Dewalt to test it too! It will be nice to compare the results of that drill too. The Milwaukee is the most expensive I think. I couldn't find it for less than $600

This is a great idea.

This is a great idea! Makes me bummed I sold my chainsaw winch. We could still do it with a 5:, rope wrench, one man, two men, etc. Maybe I could get my hands on a maasdam.

SWL on the GRCS is 2,000lb. I was able to generate 2,080 lb with the crank. I'm 150lb so I imagine someone bigg could put a little more on it, but it comes with specific instructions to not put more than one person on the crank.

Lol, I used to think the same thing, now I'm not so sure 😅

Haha, me neither 😂

Lol, I just realized it was a little boring and wanted to give folks a short cut if they weren't interested in that aspect 😂

Lol, should I compare that to a screwdriver?

@Zaccheus i mean, I would watch it😂

And just wanted to add on one thing. There is a huge difference just alone in the cells the batteries use. In theory amp hours shouldnt matter in this application. It should be all about voltage for power, (saying this before watching makita) But even using 18650 cells in the batteries vs 2100 cells can make as much as a 10% difference

Hehe, it was the popular contestant for sure.

Wow. Makita smoked it. Impressive

I know, it was a suprise!

Haha! A common expectation for sure!

Welp I was wrong. Thanks for sharing Zach & Zach. Side note…If you guys had a tree company together it would have to be “ZZ Tops” or “ZZ Tree Toppers” 😂

Haha, that's a fantastic idea 😂

Thanks!

Haha, I'd like to try one of those too! I just got to find someone who has one to let me try

Tell me about it! I was a little scared standing right next to things there 😅 I don't believe we exceeded SWL on any of the gear though 👌

It's a shame it doesn't fit on the strongest drill 😅

@@zaccheus I believe there is an adapters that can change that. But you would have to get two of them.

@gorlock2282 Oh, I gotcha. It might be worth the adapters. Are they the strongest because they can discharge the fastest?

@zaccheus yeah. It's battery cell are different. The 12 ah battery is for holding a steady load. The 6ah and 8ah just dump the power into the tool. The 6ah is the best at this. But I don't know about the new Milwaukee batteries. Plus the the super hawg is an old tool now. I believe mikita has a more powerful tool out now a 40v. As yours is a 36v with two batteries. Milwaukee 36v lineup is called MX but I don't believe they will even make a angle drill in MX. It would be a fat tool.

@gorlock2282 I did see that makita does have a 40v drill now. I was originally hoping to use the 18v and 36v nakita chainsaws, but they're not very good.