As a homeowner/DIYer this is my most used power tool. Use this for almost everything. Only real complaint is the reverse switch... not because of the location, which is fine, but because I always have to look to see if I'm in forward or reverse. Would be better if I could just feel which direction I'm in.
Yeah I catch myself in the wrong direction every now and then… but for the most part I’m looking at the screw and I just press the button. It is occasionally an issue when I’ve got my hand in somewhere and going in blind though. I really like it. I use it anytime that I don’t need an impact. It’s my most used behind my Surge.
Appreciate that. Yeah it has enough power to do most typical things. I had the older brushed Bosch Flexi Click and it didn’t have enough power to put in longer screws. That made me have to carry something else. I really like it. Most people that don’t, it usually the button for forward/reverse. Appreciate you watching and taking the time to leave feedback 👍👍
The installation driver is an ergonomic masterpiece. I've also had mine for two years, and it has all-but replaced all my other cordless drills. The only thing I wish it had is a 1/2" chuck.
I’m glad I bought it.. I had wanted to try the Festool for years but it’s not something you can just go look at in my area and no one I knew had one. Then I was getting into the M12 line and had a with a combination of Milwaukee and Bosch 12v tools and already had the Bosch FlexiClick so I couldn’t make my myself spend the $229 at the time to get this. I ended up catching it on sale with a feee tool and ultimately got this for $120 and glad I did. Like you this is my most used for sure. If I don’t need an impact, this is the tool I am using. The balance and feel is the #1 reason I like it. That and it has enough power to do more anything I would use a tool like this for.
One of the best screwdrivers I've ever had. He's really, really good. Small, light with a lot of power. I always screw my screws to the magnets, very practical. It's really fun to work with.
Bought the standard Fuel combo last winter and looking to add to the collection. Thanks for the great overview of this interesting tool. I hate the location of the forward/back switch on the M12 drivers, so I would love that feature. The Milwaukee designers must have small hands. I push the switch over to forward almost every time I grip the handle on my M12s. A top switch is a nice fix.
I think a huge advantage of this tool is, that the chuck and the back of the handle (where your hand is) are in a straight line. You can apply the force directly on the drill bit when drilling or screwing. On other tools (that are more pistol shaped) you mostly have to use the other hand to do that.
I use mine every day. I agree and want to point out a good design feature...the high hand placement allows the forward force to be centered so there is little to no creep when drilling holes. Normally, the lower hand position puts an offset forward pressure on the bit which when starting a brill bit, allows too much travel off the intended start point. I have to center-punch to counter the travel, but even then, I've dtill plenty of elongated holes with the standard, lower hand position. Like Morgan showed, I trigger with my middle finger so that the force applied is directely behind the bit. I bore holes in steel tubes and where I used to have to center-punch, with the installation driver it hardly ever creeps away from my start point.
I got this and the Bosch flexiclick brushless and I returned the Milwaukee. I liked the Milwaukee quite a bit but after using them both for some time the Bosch is just more precise both in fit of the bits and trigger action, with a much smoother motor. Most of the weight of the Milwaukee is far in front of your wrist making it harder to control and really making it more of a strain to use. The Bosch has an actual forward/reverse lever making it much faster to use, and the battery charger is like 1/4 the size of the giant 1980s style Milwaukee charger. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Milwaukee is more powerful but I need precision over power, and I haven’t found anything the Bosch couldn’t drive. If I need something beefier for larger holes or lag bolts I’d just go with an 18v subcompact.
I had the FlexiClick before I got into M12 and it was power that drove me away from it. It was the older brushes version, the brushless may be stronger. It is a bigger deal for me because I don’t want to carry two drills in with me. I did like the head attachments better on the Bosch though. That’s just me though… I appreciate your thoughts… I’ve been curious about the Brushless Version.
I'm on the Makita platform but have been eying this for a while. I wouldn't feel bad since it's 12v so it would be a 1 off for me. My goto's are the compact Makita's but I have to carry 2 tools. This makes so much more sense.
You can tell by the comments… some people like it, some don’t. I really like mine. I don’t use it to build decks or frame houses but it has done everything I have asked it to. I really like my M12 Surge but I needed something with clutch settings. The right angle is super nice. Thanks for watching and let me know if you end up getting it 👍
This honestly is one of their better tools for versatility. The fact that you can use the right angle with any of the other heads and they lock into position is priceless. Speaking of which this kit with a 5ah battery goes on sale regularly for $179
I love the Right Angle being stationary compared to using one of the adapters in your regular impact that swivels. So much easier when all you have to hold is the trigger and fastener. 👍
You confirmed what I considered very valuable about 2505-20 when I first saw it--getting into awkward and tight spaces. This can be the difference between several hours of additional disassembly, moving things around, pulled rhomboid muscle(s), and a sore lumbar region from dealing with difficult placement. I also appreciate the torque selector on this drill/driver. I think the offset attachment should offer greater distance from center of the driver and its bit holder should lock. The sound of the drill-driver is funny now that you mention it. I do trust your reviews quite a bit and I will be purchasing one of the 2505-20 units.
@@AlbertFrederickLarun I use this tool all the time. The locking bit on the offset and the sound are two things I’d like to see improvement on for sure
Finally somebody is holding that installation driver right. That is exactly how you Grip it the same way you would grip a screw gun I’m shocked that so few people have figured that out considering it has the same ergonomics with the finger grooves up top just like a screw gun for sheet rock.
It is a very similar hold. It is what I like about it, it is a more comfortable hold to me and makes me feel like I have more control. I use an impact when I need one, but this is my tool of choice for everyday type task. Thanks for watching and the comment 👍
I feel the same way and it does give you more control the pressure you apply is in line with the faster that you’re driving opposed to beneath when you’re holding or gripping the handle of a regular driver or impact.
I love my installation drill driver! I've had mine just over 2 years at this point, and I couldn't live without it now. I do a lot of cabinet building and assembly, so this thing is an absolute life saver. I pretty much exclusively use the offset head because it doesn't hurt to use it without really needing it (except for bit retention, but if I have to drill any holes, I use a different head anyways). I don't use the magnet for bits but I do use it for those little 1/4 inch screws for securing drawer glides and brackets, and trust me, it can hold alot of those little screws. This drill and my m12 surge are the perfect pair for my work. Couldn't live without them! Also, great reviews and content. It's refreshing to see someone give honest and experience based reviews. Keep up the great work!
Very cool tool! 👍 Gotta get 1. One of those tools, when ya need one, you NEED one! Theres plenty of situations this could be be handy ro have.🎉 Nice to see the power tho!! 💪💯
I have mine since maybe 1,5 or 2 years and I absolutely love it! The power is there when needed and it’s super handy and lightweight. All the features you presented make it my daily go-to tool. Since I bought it, I rarely have been using my other drills/drivers. Even the direction switch isn’t something I worry too much about once I got used to it. Great little tool!
I love this tool ! I’ve been using it for the last two months mostly to build carcasses with pocket hole screws. It wasn’t heavy use but the other day the clutch died with that horrible screaming noise. When it’s back from service I will sell it and buy Festool cxs.
Milwaukee needs to take this idea and make a "multi tool" with tons of adapters you can buy. I would love a (small) angle grinder blade attachment, PVC cutter, PEX a expander, etc
i had this one on my last jobb for 3 years and it was great had to turn it in when i left but now on my new jobb i convinced my company too buy me a new one its a realy great drill too have as an service electrian and i just bought it too have one at home too
You made some great points, funny thing is I have two of these units. HD had Christmas sales a few years back $179.00 for the set w/2 2.0 batteries and 1 free 6.0 battery. But I never seem to use either of these when doing repairs. I always take in the M12 impact and M12 1/4" hex driver, I like this unit alot, simple and gets the job done when a impact is not needed. It's amazing how lazy I get not wanting to go back out to my truck if I did not being in the right driver. But I will start bringing my install driver in with me more often...
Oooh, very nice! Your "bad" points won't bother me. The magnet is an outstanding feature, as is the "double-chuck;" one for pilot holes, and one for the screw to go through that hole. I think I see my next M12 tool...
Terrific tool for tight spaces. I found it handy while installing drawers in a dark location. I had mine for a little over a year. I really like the magnetic bit holder when I am working off a ladder.
Man did you really sell me on this little powerhouse. I was planning on grabbing the hex screwdriver but after seeing this in one of your other videos and now watching this I know this will be the next addition to the set. I really appreciate this solid review, keep up the good work man.
Thank you very much 👍 … every know and then Home Depot will have the kit with a free battery (or batteries) and you can get the kit for around $138 if you return the batteries. It has to be a promo where they split the value for all of them on your receipt.
I agree, I really like mine. I always thought the Festool looked weird but I like the feel of using this tool. For your normal day to day stuff, it works great… IMO.
Cool. You can get a small 1/4in hex drive to keyless chuck so you can also use round shank drill bits with this tool. The one I have is a Neiko brand. They say it is impact rated, but the bit tends to get stuck in the chuck if used on an impact...otherwise, it works great for small jobs.
One of the heads for this is a regular drill chuck but it only goes up to 3/8 and not 1/2… I have something similar to what you are talking about for my SDS drill to use regular bits. It does the same thing, sometimes those bits are a bear to get out after using it. Appreciate the suggestion 👍
I work mostly, almost exclusively with steel, concrete and heavy machinery, I would have gone into this thinking "wow, what a bizarre little rinky dink thing" but after watching your vid I'm starting to think there could be a use, it definitely can set a screw up in a corner in timber or plastic, probably in sheet too. Really the angles it can reach is what I'd use this for. God bless.
Good video. I ordered one yesterday, so of course your video popped up in my feed. If I saw your video 11 months ago I might have ordered it sooner lol. I almost bought one 2yrs ago, and have considered it occasionally between then. It looks like a great tool, it's versatile. Figure it'll come in handy, and might even replace one of the impacts on the van. Thanks for the vid.
😂… I really like mine. I use it more often than my impacts, but that’s just because the work I do. I got my kit for $138 by getting the ratchet free and returning it. I didn’t expect that I would like it as much as I do.
@@MORGANSMaintenance that was the deal when I almost purchased it. I had just purchased the m12 fuel impact, hammer drill kit with the same deal. I told myself at the time not to overdo it lol. Fast forward somewhere between 2 and 3 years later, and the same deal presents itself again. If I return the ratchet I'll be in it for 119. Had to buy it this go around. Like last time I had the ratchet, I'm going to be tempted to just keep the ratchet lol.
Yeah… that’s how I ended up getting hooked on Milwaukee. Once I learned the Hack at Home Depot I couldn’t pass up buying tools I may only even use once 😂
Yeah, probably. What I like about Bosch is that the bit holders are all with lock and do not have much play in there. On Milwaukee, the shorter bits slip too deep into the holder and the offset head doesn't have any lock, just magnet, which is inconvenient for me.@@MORGANSMaintenance
Tell us how crazy you are, without telling how crazy you are: I missed my 2nd tool purchase anniversary by 2 days. I wish my tool brand did this, preferably as a 12V and 18V tool. But Makita has its own ways. This type of driver may be less popular or reviewed negatively, because it's too versatile for a 12V tool. 18V platform would be great for it. I see that you have bought Festool vacuum hose holder. So Systainers here you go! Very good review. If I had a post-doctoral education I'd say that you're pleasantly concise. Because I don't, I just say kudos for zero BS.
😂😂 Thank you! I am surprised they don’t have an M18 version of this yet. I think they have another 12v version with the body of the standard drill… but I’ve never seen it. Watching the video back, I was wondering if you would catch the Vacuum being fixed. That is so much nicer to hold the hose. I’m thinking of getting a couple different Systainers, but I’m leaning towards one being the open top with a handle to make me a drywall knife/tools setup.
@@MORGANSMaintenance That bucket style systainer comes in two heights and two base sizes (standard called middle and larger called large). Standard lower: SYS3 TB M 137, 204865; standard higher: SYS3 TB M 237, 204866. These two fit the vacuum best. I recommend the higher one. This particular systainer has some disadvantages. There's an inward rim that make taking things out difficult. Also the foldable handle limits its storage volume. Given the reduction of size of 18V tools, such driver should definitely be M18 tool.
@@Stefan_Kawalec Thanks for the suggestions. I appreciate those numbers, very helpful. Yeah the only difference in size between my M18 and M12 is the battery and where it attaches. The rest of the tool is almost identical. Tools keep getting more powerful and smaller… what a time we are living in.
I was the same. I ran Bosch 12V before switching to Milwaukee and there just aren’t many tools available. I held on to a few for some time, but Milwaukee has pretty much taken over 100% for me now
Your views on the installation driver echo my own aside from one thing: I never stand up any of my drill/drivers any more, so using it with a bigger batter isn't an issue for me. Too many times I've bumped them, knocked them over and marred the surface of whatever I set them on. I still stick with CP 3.0s though; I prefer the more compact footprint and lighter weight. I do agree that the offset chuck should be locking, and I also don;t mind the forward/reverse switch since I hold the driver the same way you do. All said and done, I love the installation driver; it's basically what a brushless CXS could have been.
I’m a smaller battery fan myself too. (In my drivers) I prefer the more compact size, which is the reason I got into M12 to start with. The big batteries are nice for the saws and lights… and the drill I leave setting on my workbench. Thanks for your input. Helps me know I’m not crazy thinking it’s a great tool 😂
Great review of what the tool is. I don’t have one but I could see where it would be super handy for hanging blinds & curtain rods. Just moved into a new house 😂
That is one of mines big uses. It's not going to do some things an impact will do... but I use mine for anything I would use a screwdriver for, or a drill/driver without any issues. "Installing Things" with an Installation driver...it works great for me. I would buy an impact if I could only have one, but they both do things the other one won't. Thanks for watching and taking the time to give feedback!
I am a facilities manager and this has been my go to toy on the daily. Great for getting in those hard to reach places, like around water pipes under cabinet work and the like The only thing im not a fan of is the top mounted directional switch. There are times that takes away from its convenience in those tight spaces. Just not very ergonomic
@@urdaddywingnut7820 yeah that is the thing most people don’t like about it if they have an issue with it. I have gotten used to it and actually like it, but I understand what people don’t.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I'm sure it'll get better as I log more time with it. Kinda hard to break a lifetime of universal branding using the same switch on pretty much everything with a handle & a trigger. And as with going Shockwave/ Packout, I did a lot of research before buying and honestly it's just about impossible to beat the quality and longevity of Milwaukee. There's many companies out there that emulate and follow suit, but man it's hardly ever as good- especially when you're dealing with the entire spectrum of kit
@@urdaddywingnut7820 I bought my first Milwaukee Power Tool in 2022 I think… (used many other brands before that for years) Since I’ve been using them I haven’t looked for anything else. They are the best that I’ve been able to get my hands on anyways
Hey Morgan , great video. As you know I bought this driver a few months back and I like the design and it’s purpose. I’ve been using this driver with the offset head for kreg jig screws and it has been working well. I also mainly use the 1/4” hex driver. Yes the dentist drill noise is rough but I’d rather listen to that than the impact driver. Milwaukee should sponser you!
It would save me a lot of money 😂. Yeah, the noise isn’t loud… it’s more the pitch but I agree, it’s better than the impact sound. I use the offset a lot. The more you get used to it the less you get your bits pulled out, but I wish they had a locking collet. That was the only thing about the Bosch that was better. If you use this in the places you would use the M12 Screwdriver… that’s the sweet spot.
@@MORGANSMaintenance yes I agree on the locking collet, I love my m12 screwdriver. I have the brushed version and it is awesome. Do you store the install driver heads in the bag it came with or do you have another idea? I saw someone with a packout organizer with the kaizan foam and everything fit great in there.
@@parts7959 Right now I have been keeping them in a spot in my Packout Drawers (in my truck). I usually keep the 1/4” on it all the the time too, then the other three I grab when I need them. I’ve seen the foam, and I’ve also seen a 3D printed mount. Both are pretty neat but using hard tool cases in my setup has never really worked for me.
Great video! I would swap the direction switch on the top of the drill to a negative and I'd agree with bit retention on the offset and straight to tool also negative. Something about the sound I like. Milwaukee, to me, has some awesome sounding tool motors except for the cordless table saw. That may be the worst tool they make. If I wasn't cordless only, is get rid of it.
I haven’t bought any of the table saws or bigger Miters because they are only battery.. 9 times out of 10 I have power everywhere I am working. Yeah I get why some people wouldn’t like the switch. My hand size works to where it is fine for me… but it’s definitely a change to get used to. Appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment.
I use my drill driver everyday. One great upgrade is sold on EBay is a adapter (battery stand) that keeps the drill driver from being tippy. Another adapter allows the use of the 4/6ah batteries and still stand up and the belt clip is still used. The adapter is a ‘must get’ and makes the drill driver a great useful everyday tool.
I had a flexiclic , totally underpowered ! I really like mine , and often carry it in my Veto TPXXL ( when I’m not carrying my M12 Surge ) . I typically use the 3AH battery pack . Good review , sir !
Thank you. I really liked the size and the heads of the FlexiClick… but I always had to carry an impact for the “just in case”. I wouldn’t build a deck with this, but it does fine with the “just in case” I run a compact 3.0 in mine as well. Those are my favorite batteries.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I gave mine ( and also the Bosch 12V Jigsaw , to a Buddy who’s a Lawyer ( only does light delicate stuff around the house/ Office ) . The Jigsaw is also nice ( but shares the low powered issue ) .
@@chrisfyfe9212 yeah the only Bosch 12v tools I have left is my 3 plane laser and the planer. No one else has a planer that size, and the laser is really good. I had several of their 12v tools but none were brushless. Maybe their newer ones are more powerful? I haven’t used any.
I have been waiting for a big sale and a job to justify the purchase of the installation driver. I think I would love it but haven't found an actual need for it yet, next cabinet install I do I will for sure pick one up. I really need to get into the m12 line, currently only have Ridgid 18v and Milwaukee 18v. I think the 12v stuff would be plenty of power for most things and less weight on my tool belt.
I love the M12. It is better than all my older 18v stuff…. And your right, the size is awesome. I ended up getting mine for $138 with the kit. They had a deal if you bought it you got a free tool and the 3/8 ratchet was $149. It let me return it for $90. So if you catch it on the right sale, you can get it pretty cheap. It’s a love or hate tool. I really like mine.
I don't let any of my installer stand the tool on the battery on site as it might tip and damage the site. I like Dewalt's compacts as opposed to most battery inside grip because the dewalt has a skinnier grip and your pinky can join the party and relieve fatigue
Thanks for the video. Very helpful. I'm looking to purchase something for some upcoming projects (new fence, refurbish some decking, hanging curtain poles and just general homeowner DIY) Im locked into the Milwaukee systems, both 12v and 18v as I can get the batteries from work. Would you recomend the 4 in 1 or should I be looking at getting a drill/ driver set up instead? Thanks again.
I prefer the 4-1 over the regular drill just for the option of the right angle. It’s much different using the right angle on this, and having to hold the type you put in a drill driver. The only advantage of a drill/driver to me, would be to get the hammer/drill driver if you are going to need to drill small holes into concrete much. Things like tapcons. It is still a 12v and not an 18v, but the power of the M12 tools has been great for me. The only time I use my M18 is for heavy use jobs for battery life. I have a lot of tools that the work gets spread out, but I know I use this tool and my M12 Surge more than anything else. My M12 Drill/Driver has been moved to mixing drywall mud for patches in my pan.
I agree with you on about 95% ok so Bad 👎 kind of loud perk it has the power you need even in speed 2 which i didn't see you go into... 2nd point not being able to hold you bits with the offset on this point I'm with you brother 💯 % there should have been like on the bosh you pushed in and the bit locked if they would fix that mabey a little more power and rpm and the battery issue i use a cp 3.0 but ive run test and you can look on my channel with a 6.0 in 2nd gear I ran a 10" timberlock through a 3×3 out of a 300 year old house down here in Louisiana I dont mind the sound honestly pick up any drill and you get the same thing that harmonics assures me in some kind of weird way when I hear sag or something I know im getting close. You grip is spot on that is the way this tool is designed 👌 🔥 👏 🙌 hit out the park with that one I believe if you had an option to extend and retract the magnetic rail it would accommodate for the bigger battery. But overall I love this tool and its got me out of a pinch on several occasions. Awesome video I think you were spot on with everything you said except a couple minor things that we can agree to disagree on. I will be subscribing and if they had a love this video button I'd hit it lol thank you sir 🙏 please give that video a look and comment have a wonderful day
Thanks. I will check out your video. You are right the sound isn’t loud... it’s more the pitch that gets me. I still prefer the sound level of it over your normal impact (for the times I don’t need an impact.) I’m interested to see what changes they have if they do a Gen 2. I primarily run a CP 3.0 too. I’m interested in getting the new High Output M12’s for all my tools what they do. I have seen a few 3D printed options that either make the magnetic base bigger for more stability with a small battery, or longer to allow the bigger battery. Thanks again for the feedback. I appreciate it a lot 👍
The way I hold it, it’s easy to reach with my thumb… and if I hold it that way, it would be harder to reach a switch to push it in reverse where one normally is. For me anyways. I actually like it, but I get why some people don’t
I forgot to add, hate the speed/reverse switch on all these M12 drivers. I use the Festool CXS's in my shop every day, love them, nice and light, 10 volt batteries last forever. but onsite I like the M12 line, light and powerful, but the selector switch suck...
The only annoying thing is the fact that the reverse resets itself. You pokc it up, put it in reverse. Put it down to do something. Pick it up, knowing that it was in reverse, so you click the button. Then it has reset itself.
I haven’t noticed mine doing that… I will have to check and see. I’m probably just don’t have a good enough memory to remember what I had it set for last 😂
How’s this tool in drilling stainless ? I’d like to have small power tool in my toolkit to drill 1-2 holes every now and then in 10mm stainless without having to take the corded drill out.
Im trying to think if I’ve ever drilled into thicker stainless with it. It typically has done well for me drilling in metal electrical boxes including thicker ones… Probably would depend on the diameter of the hole and having a good drill bit.
I dont get why it is so crucial for USA ppl to have the tools standing up... just put it on its side and forget about the risk of tilting it by mistake and maybe break it or break something.
I think it's just a DISPLAY thing. I'm an American and rarely do I see anyone keep their tools all stood up. What I do see is people always being human and finding a way to talk trash about others.. . See? Look at that! American judgement all upright!!
Would you say you could use this on a commercial job site? I’m an electrician, and I’m thinking about buying one. Drilling into aluminum and small screws and things like that?
@tylerlevings8578 it does in my opinion. I use it or my M12 surge all the time. There is nothing that I pull out my Surge for that this won’t do. I just swap up depending on what I’m feeling 😂 The only time I get out my M18 is when I’m doing something heavy use all day (for battery life) or bigger lags.
I have this, the Gen 2 Impact, and the Surge…. I use this quite often (mostly because I like the feel of it), but it isn’t as powerful as an impact. I run into situations that I use the right angle and offset fairly regularly though. If those are things you don’t need often it’s not really going to do anything your impact won’t do.. especially since there are so many drill bits made to go in impacts these days. It is quieter than an impact which I have to use in certain settings (like a mall store or office). In those cases it takes place of my M12 Drill. They run this every now and then as the Kit with free batteries at Home Depot. If you buy it and return the batteries you can get the kit for $138. That’s how I got mine. It’s definitely worth having at that price. That is pretty close to the price of a right angle drill. I’m not sure if I answered 😂😂😂, just trying to give you as much info as possible. But do you need it… No. is it useful, mostly depends on if you grab a right angle adapter very often, and if you can get it for the price of a right angle drill. All that said… I wouldn’t buy this over an impact. An impact will do things this won’t. Hope that helps.
@@MORGANSMaintenance thank you so much for such a detailed reply - wow ! i'm simply trying to determine whether or not I can use the impact as a hybrid all around driver and you certainly answered that question :)
Love this puppy but today suddenly NONE of my attachments will connect! Had to pry the head off to remove it and now nothing goes on despite there being nothing obvious!!!!! WHY?!??!?!?
@@MORGANSMaintenance thanks for replying, not sure what happened initially to make the 3/4 chuck get stuck but after prying it off, the connector needed some smoothing out (with my Milwaukee “dremmel”) and now it slides off and on beautifully! I blew out the head and hit it with some graphite and I’m rockin once again!
@@Whiteyda3rd glad you had to know how to fix it. You are like me, I will fully disassemble something and attempt a fix before I throw it out… what do you have to lose 😂
Magnets are nice anywhere. I do like those new lights, I'm also intrigued by the HO M12 batteries too. Interested to see if they do the same for some tools like the M18
I’ve seen their version.. looks more like the regular M12 Impact and drill. I really like the feel/balance of this driver, but i am surprised they haven’t made an M18 version of this yet.
It's not a hammer impact driver. The 'impact' sound is only a clutch slipping, the same as your drill machine does. Oh, is that a carbide wedding band? Best not do any manual work with that on, because if it ever needs to be cut off in an A&E hospital visit to save a finger... the options are very limited and 'grim'.
I didn’t remember saying it was an impact… if I did my mistake 🤦♂️ It is a silicone wedding band, that’s all I ever wear. I’ve seen fingers get removed 🤢
@@MORGANSMaintenance Yeah, no worries. I don't recall the claim it was a 'hammer' mechanism' ... perhaps some don't know the difference and limitations of the two different types of tools. It's just like I wouldn't bother using anything other than an elecro-pnumatic' hammer drill (SDS) to drill into concrete. Simply, the ratchet hammer type found on usual 'pistol drills' are pathetic. One other thing, I wouldn't use a reduced shank drill in a 3 jaw chuck. (like the 12mm drill with a 10mm shank - (3/8 - 1/2) These chucks are only really designed to drive a drill bits they can accommodate... reduced shanks tend to overload the tools motor and gear drive and chucks.... but then again, most users don't understand correct speed to use with each size drill into various materials. After all, look how many idiots go maximum speed while using a large diameter hole saw, and then wonder why the saw goes blunt or small drill bits break during far too slow a speed. Silicon band sounds safe. I don't understand the fad of the carbide bands or if anyone considers the ramifications that follow a crush injury that would need removal of any rings. Imagine the added pain of grinding off a carbide band with a diamond saw disc in a hurry.
@@BTW... I worked in factories a lot in my younger days. Seen all sorts of injuries that kept me from wearing my wedding ring. The silicone ones rip right off. I’m fact I have to replace mine from time to time due to damage. I’m a big fan of SDS too… the hammer feature on a regular drill is something I rarely use.
It’s the boot for the regular 1/4” impact driver (not the 1/4” socket impact). I bought it hoping it would still fit. Part # 49-16-2553. Want to say the best price I found it was on eBay.
Problem 1 is you have no idea of direction until you try it 1st. FOOLISH engineering along with the hex shaft of the drill attachment only indexing into the driven hex by 1/8" that's pure BS!
It takes some getting used to, but I’ve grown to not mind the button. Some of the attachments could use some work. I look forward to a Gen 2 if they make it
I use a Fluke 324 clamp meter most of the time. It has all the functions I generally use. I’ve had it for several years now and it’s been really good. I had several others before but they didn’t have capacitance. Now it’s a pretty standard feature.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I’ve been towing with the idea of trying a Feildpiece Stick meter , I like the concept of the removable Clamp head , just not sure if they have too many HVAC specific features , also not 100% sure about service for them in Canada !
@@chrisfyfe9212 I’ve been looking at them a lot too. I’ve never had one, but I’ve been on a HVAC video kick on RU-vid for the last 6 months or so and that’s mostly what they all have.
I see no real point to the tool,if you need what it does everyday you're already gonna have an impact and a drill.If you need it everyday it's way quicker to just have 2 separate tools.I feel like this one of those tools that somebody's wife buys her hubby on father's day because let's face it ,most wife's don't know shit about tools but are the first to buy a guy some gimmicky dumb bullshit.
With any tool, it all depends on what you do. I would buy this over the M12 right angle drill any day just for the right angle location adjustment. I got the kit for $138 when I bought it, and the right angle was $119. Some people will never need an offset, some people would use one everyday. I agree with you though. It’s not for everybody and an impact needs to be your “if I can only have one” tool.
Tell us what you really think about it 😂😂. I appreciate you commenting, helps people see its not for everyone. I always read comments of reviews I watch for tools I might buy. Thanks for watching!
yes, it's a tool for light use, an oversized screwdriver. It's not an impact driver; I have both the new M12 impact and the older Surge M12: there's a big difference there too when dealing with steel screws, or concrete anchors.
LOL!!!! I'm a mechanical engineer for a living, I test the shit out of these things, and this one is trash, trust me. Fanboy you must be. My realm is quality and durability and this tool is very poorly execute according to the standards we hold here. The forward/reverse is a disaster to someone who actually understands it's intended function and use.
@Murray Wight Understood, I'm just telling you my hands on research and experience, the Hilti inner guts are light years superior to Milwaukee's. Hilti's warranty alone is 20 years, but it's a horrible warranty process to sometimes deal with. In my experience, Milwaukee could have made this a MUCH better tool then they did. I'm very disappointed in they're engineering of this tool.
Excellent review! I have been researching cordless drills to replace my entry level Ryobi. I will be ordering the premium Milwaukee 2505-22 M12 for Xmas!
I think you will like it. It seems to come down if you can get used to the button for directional change. I use mine all the time, it’s one of my favorites.
Totally agree. I’ve been using mine for about the same amount of time, and would buy a new one tomorrow for all the reasons you presented. It’s a fantastic everyday gun for guys like us that have to do it all. I am holding out hope that they change the directional switch from the top to the trigger. I don’t have big meat hooks so it’s just a pain to switch back and forth when I’m in a tight spot. But it’s a fantastic gun, and makes a great wedding present for buddies that don’t have a lot of tools. Thanks for highlighting this. Great overview of a fantastic tool.
Thanks. It's a love or hate tool it seems. Especially the trigger. My guess is they would change it, I think the majority vote they prefer the standard switch. Mostly depends on what you use it for. I use mine as a powered screwdriver basically, but it can do a little heftier work in a pinch.
Have owned this driver for over two years. It is a pleasure to use. Lightweight yet powerful. Any complaints I might have are so minimal as to be negligible.
Good video answered a lot of questions I had. One thing I noticed and have found that with most drills that have magnetic strips for bit storage is a big magnet (yes this is a pun) for metal shavings to stick to. If you do a lot of metal drilling as I do it’s a pain in the butt.
I got mine a couple months back. It's a go to tool. It took me no time to adjust to the forward and reverse switch. My favorite feature is honestly the hand position, which puts my wrist inline with the drilling and fastening. I do agree the biggest downside is how the grip is very tippy. Because of that, I ordered the new M12 HO batteries hoping it's a better base because of the rubber over molding they are putting on it.
I just saw on Etsy that someone 3D prints a pice that screws onto the belt clip that extends the base to match a big battery. If it only screws on one side that I don’t have to lose my belt clip I may try one for giggles. I like the small batteries though. Glad you like yours though. I really like it, with a few improvements it would be really, really good.
I haven’t used any Dewalt 12v.. I used to use their 18v and it was great at the time….I started in the 20v stuff but didn’t care for it, switched to Bosch, and started in Milwaukee the last few years. I love the ergonomics of this over my standard M12 drill and impact shape. It seems more balanced. It’s my first D handle type drill, but now I see why people liked the Festool. I’m sure the Dewalt is good… Most tools these days are crazy good. All tools have come along way in the last 5 years or so.
I hope you like it. I really like mine. The D handle takes some getting used to, but I have grown to prefer it. Sorry for the late response, they had this in “held for review” ??
