Yes it takes less force to loosen a bolt, this is only to test the rundown feature which claims it can achieve 100% of the torque. So if thats true set at 100Ft-lbs I should see near that not 32Ft-lbs, or 9 when its set to 25. Yes removal will always be less on most fasteners unless there is rust. This is not a normal bolt, Its a rundown fine thread loaded bolt.
Another way to check. Take a digital torque wrench set well above what the bolt should be. Then KEEP TIGHTENING the bolt until is starts to give/move. Stop and look at the value shown on the torque wrench. You can mark the socket with a sharpie to make tracking easier. That gets around all the pesky bolt variables. Nice work overall!
There are several reasons a torque wrench can be out of range when you buy it, like was it dropped in transport? Did you hold the wrench still when it was turned on? Also, the run down function is not meant to set to the correct torque, it's supposed to get the bolt close, so you can finish by hand to the correct torque. Read the instructions. Also also, you didn't mention the last time your test rig was calibrated.
I don't think it's that surprising. It's a much simpler design, and plenty of youtubers have tested have tested them and found them to be to be accurate. It's a good tool, especially for its price.
Throwing in a comment here, im a huge tool fan, and not sure how but your channel went under my radar for apparently a long time, hope you keep up the great testing. Appreciate you brother.
Wow great video! I had the Milwaukee and loved it but I sold it when I got the chance to get a good deal on a 3/8 and 1/2 snapon techangle torque wrenches. I was bummed about selling it now I’m glad lol
I liked your video. I used to work for a small engine manufacturer and we always did our QA torque checks in the tightening direction. It's more accurate than in the reverse direction. The only way you can check for sure is to use a torque transducer on the tool while you're tightening because dynamic torque that the tool is reading is different than static torque needed to break away in one direction or the other. Found that last bit out the hard way.
Thanks! Yeah definitely more accurate in the tightening direction, I now have an impact tester. I just need to buy another one of these and test it again, hopefully during Black Friday.
Thanks! Yeah IMO split beams are the way to go. Digital wrenches are great for engine work when torque turn is need but everyday use SB is the way to go. Glad to hear its helped!
Thank you for your research and video. I had a mental battle holding one in a store last year to purchase or not and your video definitely solidified the decision not to! 🎉
Another great video. I have had a few brand new meters that I cannot repeat the calibration test on and get the same results that they show on the calibration certificate. Makes you wonder how genuine manufacturer's certification is sometimes.
Sometimes I think it's a randomized bunch of numbers spit out and printed jammed in the box and off they go. Some company's its real and right on the money but $699 and made in China no thanks...
Home Depot is 90 days not 30. I can definitely understand your frustration i’d be willing to bet it’s a one off situation my buddy had a problem with a snap on tool right off the truck I think it was a impact not suer but he still runs there tools. I do think Milwaukee’s quality has gone down a bit.
Yep they took it back, though it had to be unopened after 30 but apparently not. They took it back on question. Yeah I might test the 1/2 version in a few months. Hopefully it was a fluke issue, I was surprised.
I think it’s due to Milwaukee’s heavy duty style built that’s causing this issue. If they reduce the bulky built and adopted a slimmer design like snap on it will be more accurate
I noticed that you did do loosen torque on the other tools. 😁. It looks close enough. Just set it a pound or 2 under for the first year then I bet it's fine after some wear.
$700 to lease a torque wrench for 4k cycles? No thanks... Hard pass lol. It might seem ridiculous to do the nitty gritty math, but that's like $0.18 every time it clicks!!!
Insane how off that thing is to start and then it has to be aent off after so many cycles... 700$..they missed the mark with this thing..glad you tested it..thank you for saving so many of us from buying that thing
That's the reason why I'm not brand loyal. I love DeWalt tools. I love Milwaukee tools. I love snap-on. I love rigid. I love husky. I love Klein tools. I love fluke and I bit them against each other to purchase the best And that Milwaukee digital torque wrench is not worth for the money. Has a kit is $1,000 and that's what they can come up with. And by the way my friend, thank you very much for the testing. Beautiful testing. That's a good Channel you got going on there like and subscribe
Any product can be defective out of the box but for the cost that is extremely disappointing. Especially given that it came with a certification. I'd have a hard time trusting that tool in the future.
@@Tools-Tested It certainly looks nice and the ratchet feature is nice in concept for a TW, but a apparently a detriment in this application of the feature.
An electric thatcher that is also a digital torque wrench, it's honestly to much sounds more like a gimick. I honestly prefer click style torque wrench over digital.
home depot has a 90 day return window I think. unless this counts as a consumer electronic because of the digital display which would be kind of silly.
7:50 torque to loosen is always less than torque to tighten (without rust, etc). You should have done this test by hand tightening to 25 with all 3 wrenches and loosening with the snap-on, then you could make a decent judgment of the run down feature.
This is only to test the rundown feature which claims it can achieve 100% of the torque. So if true set at 100 I should see near that not 32 Ft-lbs, or 9 when its set to 25. Yes removal will always be less, but this is not a normal bolt, Its a rundown fine thread loaded bolt.
I’d send it to millwaukee I have one and had it calibrated at A local calibration place and it was 2 percent off from factory they said he dose snap on for are dealer and he had one 9 percent off crazy
@@Tools-Tested I alway calibrate my torque wrench. After I purchase them and after two years I do I want to make sure I don’t have a tire fall off on a customers car I wound bamen myself
@@Tools-Tested I did a more thorough warm up than anything I’ve seen on RU-vid. I worked the adjuster up and down the scale a couple of times. Then I put a flip socket on it and made it click at several different settings using my the lug nuts on my car, including three or four clicks at 75 foot pounds. Then I put it back to the lowest setting before putting it back in the case. Despite many reviews that say it fails to click at low settings, mine clicked even at 20 foot pounds.
@@DiligentDave1966 nice! Yeah I agree, I haven’t seen the issues yet others have claimed they have had. Both the 3/8 and 1/2 have worked flawlessly for me. It’s really quite impressive.
@@Tools-Tested One of my coworkers rebuilt a car with Pittsburgh torque wrenches. I did a front brake job later that morning with my 1/2” for one of my coworkers. The accuracy was a very important for me because the caliper specs at 20 foot pounds and Lugnuts spec at 83 foot pounds. My torque wrench had noticeable clicks at both settings.
@@Tools-Tested I’m seriously considering getting the 3/8 Pittsburgh because it has the lowest torque range I’ve seen so far. I need about 81/2 to 10 foot pounds for valve covers, etc.
Brand new out of box and already needs to be recalibrated lol. In the military if someone dropped a torque wrench by accident you would have to send it in to be recalibrated even before it’s do date.
The Pittsburgh was more accurate than BOTH the Milwaukee and SO. Their is a good reason that simple click design has been employed by 100's of tool brands. Its cheap...and EFFECTIVE!
Yep I prefer a split beam my self, only using digital when angle is involved. But for most cases 90 or 180 degrees you really still don't even need it.
Trouble with a click wrench is that it's really easy to go over torque with an inexperienced operator- Typically you only have 3 degrees of movement after the click. I am getting one of these for a look at, hopefully this unit was just a dud. Bad that this slipped past QC though.
That's so disappointing, I think the ratcheting mechanism is very bulky and leads to inaccuracy, plus when it's running it sounds like it shakes up the insides pretty badly.
You can't check torque by loosening a fastener. Use your snap on to torque a bolt then use it to remove the bolt you just torqued and you will have the same lower torque results
This is only to test the rundown feature which claims it can achieve 100% of the torque. So if true set at 100 I should see near that not 32 Ft-lbs, or 9 when its set to 25. Yes removal will always be less, but this is not a normal bolt, Its a rundown fine thread loaded bolt. The goal in this scenario was just to see if it even came close.
This wrench needs to be tested with a rundown simulator on the torque tester and use the peak setting. Loosening the bolt will get you lower results every time. I calibrate torque wrenches for a living.
Correct, yeah don't know what I was thinking testing the loosing torque. I was scared to use a rundown adapter on my tester. I ordered Skidmore-Wilhelm's new bolt less tester. Hope to rerun this test with a new wrench once I receive it.
Also I had my certificate expire on mine. The tool just reminds you that it’s expired every time you turn it on and you have to accept it. It also won’t let you save the results. But you can still use it
that dont shock me my dad all ways said cheep tools can out do high end tools. by the way you should check out this one Eastwood Digital Electronic Torque-Angle Wrench 3/8in Drive I have had my for all most 10 years now and just want to see how it stacks up
I've always wanted one of this and was able to get a brand new one for half price. I saw your video after I got it so I'm wondering if they got these problems taken care of or if they are all still that far out of spec. Have you talked to milwaukee about your findings? Curious if they had anything to say about it. Thanks for the video
It was still in the return window, so I returned it. I haven't reached out to Milwaukee, but I hope to get another one soon and see if it performs the same. No problem!
Seems like Milwaukee needs to stay OUT of the Torque Wrench game. Or TTI needs to buy a company (ie: Precision Instruments) that knows what they’re doing- like snap on did with CDI Torque. That’s horrible for $700. & even more so when HF’s $20 bottom of the line option is more accurate. Lol. Big FAIL on this one, Milwaukee. 🤦🏻♂️
I don’t have faith in Milwaukee products. Bought their torch that was reviewed favorably by Project Farm. First one will not charge. Second one turns on sometimes, sometimes it doesn’t. Charge light shows orange even after 8 hour charge, if you remove the cable and plug in again it shows green. Never had such a questionable torch, even cheapo china ones are much more reliable. 🤷🏻♂️
Two things. Can you test the re certified Tekton? And also if all the torque wrenches are certified I'm thinking maybe whoever is doing the cert is maybe the issue.
Hi I did retest the certified Tekton split beams ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ew2s_zoUejw.html Yeah defiantly depends on who's certifying them.
The Milwaukees probably correct, you need to replace your tool of measurement. Probably best to actually just use the Milwaukee torque wrench as your unit of measurement. I’m not really a Milwaukee fan myself though. 👀
@@Tools-Tested Lol, definitely a joke. Because a lot of Milwaukee guys think they can do no wrong. I love Milwaukee, but won’t be spending what they want for that torque wrench. Especially if I have to also send it off for recalibration.
Does having the test jig “arm” close the the inside edge of the handle (as opposed to the middle or outer portion where your hand would likely be) not change the reading?
It looks close to the edge but its actually pushing at the center of the handle. But yes it could potentially affect the reading if you are not center on the grip.
lets be fair here, backoff torque is not directly equivalent to tightening torque. takes less torque to undo a bolt that it does to tighten to that spec. that part of your testing was inaccurate. abetter test would be to try to continue tightening the bolt with another tool and, as an automotive tech, none of my tolerance specs are closer than +/-3%, and this tool is absolutely not designed for "mechanic" use. its made for high voltage electricians who generally use low torque values with somewhat looser tolerances. its really not far off +/-3%, so for my own use, this would be good enough. #ContextRequired
@@tylermcelwain you're right, it was aimed at electricians, and im my opinion they should have started with something WAAAY simpler. There was no need to jump into the deep end with this, now look, first impressions ruined.
Milwaukee 'bout to burn down a whole Chinese factory now. That sucks. I thought it looked cool but seemed more like a industrial electricians torque wrench rather than a mechanics torque wrench so I didnt bother but foot pounds are foot pounds and this thing might as well be a super extended length overpriced Milwaukee M12 ratchet. Honestly i hope you just got a defective unit but in my opinion Milwaukee should have never started at this price point with this much tech. To my knowledge this is their first torque wrench, why didn't they start with a basic click one like Dewalt so they can work out kinks in their manufacturing?!
Yep I agree they should have never started with this advanced of a wrench. It's weird to me they focused on electricians for this , I would have thought a bigger market would be mechanics. Hopefully I did receive a defective one and normally they are accurate as they claim.
@@Tools-Tested Oo..just Milwaukee service center that can re calibrate ya? So if we buy this one then we already reach usefull 5000 cycle, we sent it again to Milwaukee to re calibrate?
I bet companies hate that we have access to this information I could see someone at the company watching this video freaking out because of the boxes and boxes of this sku just sitting there Collecting dust someone’s responsible for this tools accuracy.
Milwaukee are never a torque tool maker. These are so useless they can't do angles. Best wrench maker Is English made Norbar. They are way beyond SnapOn etc.
