Minato Namikaze VS Tobirama Senju 

Minato: I'm bad at sage mode Also Minato: *Instant Perfect Sage* Kakashi: I'm low on chakra Also Kakashi: *Kamui's 8 times in less than one chapter*

Minato is the type of guy to go casually murder 5 platoons of soldiers and be home in time to cook for his wife

Who else thinks minato and tobirama should have a flying rai attack combo in the games?

Most people think of Minato of kind-hearted. BUT THEY TEND TO FORGET THAT HE WAS A SAVAGE IN THE THIRD SHINOBI WORLD WAR.

Instead of boruto i wish we'd of gotten an anime/manga about the first ninja wars like season 1-2 follows hashirama and tobirama , season 3-4 follows the three sanin, season 5-6 follows minato. I didn’t realize how many likes this got till just now a year later lol thanks for the likes fellow shinobis Stay happy and stay healthy!

In regards to the Hiraishin no Jutsu.... Tobirama is like the guy who invented the moonwalk... Minato is Michael Jackson

Might I add that the rasengan is the highest form of chakra control. Minato also summoned gamabunta, removed the nine tails and sharingan connection, warped a fully charged nine tails biju bomb, used sage mode, bodied obito while pre occupied, and spammed flying raijin and still wasn’t fatigued. IN ONE NIGHT.

Boruto’s grandpa Is pretty cool

Tobirama was killed by bad writing

Tobirama and Hashirama died in pretty stupid ways compared to other Shinobi that were waaaay weaker than them

Hurts when you do me like that.........

TBH I think tobirama is underrated

“I suck at sage mode,” said Minato in the mastered form of sage mode

Ginkaku and Kinkaku were powerful because they were S-Class jonin who later got Nine-Tails power and Sage of Six Paths Ninja Tools. Ginkaku and Kinkaku with Nine-Tails power and Ninja Tools together with 20 S-Class Jonin against a lone Tobirama is no joke.

yellow flash vs water boi

Tobirama flexinghis chakara was amazing 😂 he’s my favorite hokage

Me VS Madara

How about settling the debate of SpongeBob vs Goku. These weebs think Goku can beat someone who can DRIVE rocks!

Lets all take a moment to appreciate the amount of time or money tobirama spent to attach a piece of fur to his senju armor.

Doesn’t being a Sage automatically make you a Sensory-Type?

This was barely even 'Minato Namikaze VS Tobirama Senju', and more of 'Why Minato Namikaze is stronger than Tobirama Senju'. Which I'm not complaining about.

Lol, doodle bob stomps these guys.

I want to see the writers do tobirama justice by animating his death fight and showing us how many kick ass jutsu he’s capable of

lets be honest swag hates tobirama because tobirama hates uchihas

Listening to you two talk about Minato's sage mode (in this video specifically) made me realize something. Minato is one of the fastest shinobi in existence. Regardless of how you think about it, Sage mode requires some time and focus to activate. So, what if Minato learned sage mode but then stopped using it because it was too slow for him? - Jiraya had Ma and Pa. - Naruto had shadow clones. Fusing with Ma and Pa is something Jiraya did because he was bad at gathering nature energy in the heat of battle. Minato was clearly capable of gathering nature energy just fine, so he wouldn't need Ma and Pa for that. The other reason would be so that Minato could focus on battle while Ma and Pa gather nature energy for him. However, summoning Ma and Pa the way Jiraya did is far too slow and loud for Minato's fast and spontaneous fighting style. Minato's chakra reserves probably suck in comparison to Naruto's. Even if he had mastered the shadow clones, it wouldn't make sense for him to rely on shadow clones the same way Naruto does. Heck. Tobirama invented the shadow clone jutsu and doesn't rely on it like Naruto does. Sasuke is the second strongest shinobi in the leaf village and he can't create half as many clones now as Naruto could when he was a child. So its not about whether or not he can enter sage mode. It's more likely about Minato being able to effectively utilize the technique with his flying Raijin style. Why waste time gathering nature energy or summoning toads when you can just teleport behind your target and assassinate them in the blink of an eye? Minato probably realized this and stopped using Sage mode because he didn't need it. It's far too slow, it's risky, and it's probably pointless in 90% of his battles.

Tobirama is my favorite character from the Naruto series. He is such a troll. ^-^ Not to mention he looks completely badass.

“hashirama’s not even under my control” *tobirama on the verge of breaking out orochimaru’s control* senju brothers be like breed: different

I think Gingaku and Kinkaku were meant to be a lot stronger. They were shown to be way too weak in the ninja war. They should of been like 2 killer bees.

Don't use the war arc for scaling, tenten beat kakuzu with 1 so6p tool. So what is tenten kakuzu level? lmao

Swagkage make a what if video explaining what would happen if Kakashi never got a sharingan

i think minato never really ever uses his full power. His to laid back

Yeah, I'm a Tobiramatard (cause he looks so dope) BUT, MADARA, the one character tracking like the past 4 generations of Shinobi said something like, "you who once held the title as the fastest Shinobi." I give it to Minato mid to high-dif😕

Swagkage and seth just gave Minato that good *s* *u* *c* *c*

Pls dissect dissection!

Says how Tobirama praises Minato's FTG, shows page where Tobirama praises Minato's Body Flicker.

its sad we never really got to see tobirama cut loose

Boruto's dad vs Sarada's dad

So sad they didn’t make a proper minato filler, there’s so much to tell about him, he is such a god

Okay and tobirama also has the reanimation jutsu. And you know who is dead? Thats right, his bigger brother Hashirama. Check mate.

Yeah that Darui argument is nonsense. They were reanimations, they were faced with many people, not at full strength, and they were sealed. I don't know why you didnt mention that they were pseudo jincuriki after their exploits within the belly of kurama

Well it took long enough

Didn’t tobirama created the reanimation jutsu?

Tobi did create the bulk of plot related ninja techniques. So he has some skill

Let's be clear about this: Minato surpassed Tobirama and would beat him in a serious fight. NONTHELESSE, we have to appreciate and respect Tobirama for who he is and what he did. He's the one who paved the way for Naruto, Minato, Hiruzen, Orochimaru, Kabuto and the whole Konoha Village.

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I don't care man. I would put my money on Tobirama. In the same way how Swagkage can choose Madara over Kayuga because of battle experience and intelligence, I am going to choose Tobirama for those same reasons. He is clearly more experienced and clearly more intelligent at using his jutsu. When they fought Jubito it was his idea to reciprocate their flying rajin and he came up with that strategy. He was able to realize that Sage jutsu would be effective against Jubito the same time Naruto did while Minato who also uses some Sage jutsu didn't even notice that. Its one thing to know jutsu but being able to utilize it effectively and create strategies on the fly to defeat your opponent is extremely valuable and Tobirama outclasses Minato in that category.

actually tobirama said your "SHUNSHIN" is better than mine aka his body flicker

You two should do more colab videos, you seemed to have great chemistry.

Love that new intro Seth. Also I'm pissed that my post notifications didn't go off

Minato was comparing his own reaction speed to the knead to build chakra! So minato found it unnessesary compared to his awesome reaction speed and teleporting was always enough. Yes hes very humble a mix personality of hinata, lee, and kakashi

This is mostly "Why We Think Minato is Stronger" more than Minato Namikaze vs Tobirama Senju. Tobirama said Minato's Shunshin no Jutsu was quick. That's the Body Flicker Technique, not Flying Thunder God. Yes Minato has mastered it in terms of usage and versatility, he has more Flying Thunder God techniques than Tobirama for certain. -In the war however, the difference in their experience and creativity really showed. He performed much better than KCM Minato against Juubito in terms of combat speed and reaction. Combat speed is not teleportation. Combat speed is who moves their body quicker in a fist fight, who punches quicker, who dodges faster, who notices the predictable attacks more. That is where Tobirama's edge showed and you can bet it'd show if they fought. Tobirama tagged Juubito FIVE times in the middle of getting blitzed while Minato was doing who knows what getting caught by Juubito's orbs while Tobirama teleported it with a slower clone. So being able to teleport to Minato's stuff would be a huge problem. -Minato can teleport? Okay, and what use is there in teleporting against a guy that's much more combat proficient with it? Its not like Minato is facing someone as slow as Sakura and is obscenely faster than Tobirama when a Tobirama clone was better at saving him than himself. -And if Minato doesn't teleport? What? A slugfest? Against a Senju? Tobirama Senju? Lol okay. Good luck with that against a guy that has so much battle experience, a nasty tactician, will fight dirty if he has to, and is clearly better at combat, and is a physical powerhouse with absurd chakra reserves and stamina. -Water Attacks might not be too useful against Minato since he could evade most of them. -Paper bomb techniques of Tobirama would be a problem even if you disagree. Why? Tobirama knows Minato can use Hiraishin No Jutsu and he's the deadlier tactician with more battle experience. You can bet he'd purposely have Minato teleport somewhere to get caught in some trap. -Minato being a sensory type so he'll sense things? And? So is Tobirama, much more so than Minato if you actually read back. -Chakra Reserves? I don't even need to go there. -Sage Mode? You think he wouldn't notice Minato trying to activate Sage Mode in a fight and take advantage of that given how dirty he'll fight? "Oh but Minato is being humble when he says he needs time for Sage Mode." This dude's brother is Hashirama, who can probably just blink to activate Sage Mode. "Oh but Minato has clones to use to make Sage Mode." Clones that would get cucked by Tobirama's clones, who can probably make a ton more with the kind of chakra reserves he has. With Sage Mode Minato might have a chance against his physicality. -Reanimation? How many dead people are there? LOL. Its not them fighting each other. Its Minato trying to survive and kill Tobirama quick enough, quick enough against a big brain guy that knows his abilities, has more combat prowess, and outranks him in EVERY category outside of Hirashin techniques and Shunshin No Jutsu.

*when you realize combat ability isnt all about raw power*

At least Dan isn't in these comments

If you see The Yellow Flash run

Not gonna lie dat intro is kinda dope

The 2nd Hokage pitch black technique looks like a technique that was designed to counter the Sharingan when he use to face the Uchihas.

The thing people don't take in to account is that the jutsu's tobirama made during his time was completely ground breaking trying to say that minito is as smart as tobirama or anywhere near him is a joke of course someone is able to make a jutsu stronger 40+ years later after someone already has the basics of how to do it minito is fast plus with his flying rajin is absolutely insane but give credit were credit is due

Tobirama fanboys are the worst, I see them saying that he's equal to Madara and Hashirama just because they got wet when he flexed his chakra.

You see minato in world war 2 you open fire on minato ... 2 seconds later everyone dies

Ginkagu and Kinkaku were created just for Darui to deafeat them. Minato would have Big ass problems killing Tobirama.

Tobirama wasn't really fleshed out like the 1st or 4th.

Minato can also use Tobiramas marks bro. He did it to change places with Tobirama to help Naruto and Sasuke land an attack.

Hey SethTP and Swag, I gotta say, you are both really good at arguments, at times I find myself wondering over particular facts on the lore and I happen to keep coming back to your videos... Thank you both for the good work and effort put into them :)

Thank you for the video! All of you friends are super awesome!

Did you take into account that Team Tobirama had just returned from a mission where they were all exhausted? So 20 elite ninjas vs an exhausted Tobirama didn't seem plausible to you? Darui was fighting Edo Tensei Kin and Gun bros who are weaker than their alive selfs as well and used the weapons to seal them, he didn't win out of fighting strength. Tobirama did put Minato's Shunshin and FTG above his own, however there were moments where Tobirama showcased faster movement than Minato such as how Tobirama was able to both Obito (Juubi Jin) while also setting up his explosive tags and how he was able to create a shadow clone and get the TSB off of Minato before it exploded much faster than Minato could. Shunshin no jutsu speed is determined by the amount of chakra you use, chakra control, and your mastery over the jutsu. Naruto in KCM speed is so fast due to his large chakra reserve, Tobirama has the larger reserve but Minato has the better mastery over the jutsu as with FTG. Tobirama can still increase his speed faster by using more chakra. Tobirama had to use Minato as a medium to use FTG on those Minato shares chakra to, so he might need one of Minato's Kunai's to gain access to it. Tobirama can teleport to any location that his chakra is touching, he can flood the area with water and that will allow him to teleport anywhere or anything his water is or is touching. Tobirama is also the better sensor of the two, he can even sense what clan you're from by your chakra type.

tobirama stated at the 4th war that minato was better then him at using flying thunder god, add to that sage mode and bijuu bombs... GG

Another thing is that when the 3rd Hokage fought Orochimaru in Naruto he was more terrified of the 4th Hokage being reanimated and not the first 2.

"you guys run I am going to kill them all" lmao minato was a beast.

That intro nice

Which hokage is the strongest? Boruto's village's first hokage, the guy who created the jutsu that Boruto's grandpa used, Boruto's sensei's grandpa, Boruto's grandpa, some old lady, or Boruto's dad's sensei?

That intro was 🔥

Swag and seth should make a joint channel, when they on they own I always feel something is missing

I feel like Base to Base Tobirama would win

I’ll also say that Senju genes don’t seem to count for much when you’re an actual Senju who isn’t Hasirama 🤷🏿‍♂️ look at the massive power ups everyone who got Hasirama cells have and then look at all the other Senju. Tobirama and Tsunade are clearly way weaker than Hasirama.

“Hold up, you all run ima kill all of them real quick” I love that 😂

I have watched all the Naruto vs battles wish ya'll had more!!

Speaking of Bruce Lee, have you 2 ever heard of a channel called Beerdy? He emphasizes the impact and skill that BL had

These are 2 of my favourite characters but I'll give it to minato (Tobirama wasn't developed much and was a victim of bad writing and plot holes)

Your intro is fire 🔥

WARNING: This is gonna be a long one Minato would obviously win. To know this lets look at their arsenals. Minato has flying rajiin, shadow clones and rasengan. Tobirama has flying rajiin, reanimation and shadow clones. These are the only jutsu’s that we know they. Its a mostly similar arsenal but Minato comes out on top because his rasengan is far superior to the reanimation in this case. The first thing wrong with the reanimation is: Who is he going to reanimate that could help? In the time that he was alive we are going to assume that hashirama was alive longer because of his strength. Now lets say tobirama got rinne-rebirthed or something and he uses it., He has all these strong options but minato could easily stop it because he’s to quick as hiruzen did in his fight against orochimaru. Now speaking of hiruzen vs orochimaru, When orochimaru was reanimating all the other hokage hiruzen was afraid of MINATO. And only minato. After he stopped him from reanimating minato, he was like: Ok this is bad but at least I stopped him from reanimating minato. So he was scared of minato and NOT tobirama. Not to mention Minato’s MASTERY of sage mode which gives him like infinite chakra and improves the quality of his jutsus. Now if were talking about revived Minato then he would absolutely body. Because now he has KCM!! So in all, Minato would win because of his better arsenal Hiruzen was afraid of minato and NOT tobirama, And Minato has sage mode. And if were talking revived then he has KCM! So That is why Minato would body easily.

let the salty comments begin!!

Tobirama: (erupts) "I have shit-tons of echelons of chakra!!!" Hasimara: (explodes with same force albeit less effort) "Put your finger down!!" Tobirama: "Hmmm...." (puts finger down) Me for the 1st time: "Holy shit! Rewind!!!!"

It would be so nice to see more of the first four hokage

Also remember Minato managed to easily defeat a team of cloud ninja (probably chunin - jonin level) when he was only 10.

tobirama is alpha af

Can u do naruto vs sasuke all forms

I feel the Tobirama death make people think he weaker than he is he really killed him off in a stupid ass way now people think kisame can beat him for some reason . I think Kisame was made to fight people like bee and naruto he basically use bre Chakra to heal his self without that his ass would’ve died 😒

Tobirama is the Narutoverse ultimate Alpha Male

When you remember Might Gai came the closest to defeating Madara

Tobirama stomps because he has water style and he will make YOU FLOAT TOO 🎈🎈🎈!!

This video caused irreparable damage to the community

You should do a video about borutos grandfather vs hashiramas brother

Plz someone explain me that how would minato stab raikage through his lightning armor. To this i can't figure out why bee pushed ay out of they way.

My money is on Aang.

Honestly I dont care who wins but I'd love to see this damn fight either way its gonna be a good one

I know I’m probably late as fuck and maybe someone else already pointed it out lol but I didn’t see it elsewhere in the comments section and it’s not that big a deal but around 15:42 you said Tobirama could teleport to other people’s flying raijin seals but that’s only b/c Tobirama and Minato marked each other w/ their seals to work together against Obito. It’s not something either would be able to do in a fight w/ each other unless 1 marked the other first. A lot of people forget that, it’s not just something innate to Tobirama. Overall good video, love the content and I agree Minato is probably stronger than Tobirama.

Subtitles at 0:11 "swag cow gay" lmfao 😂

Someone in your comments said itachi never met mask obito 💀

Yoooo my name is Seth toooooo thats dopeeee

I believe when the second hokage said that Minato's teleportation was better than his when they arrived on the battlefield, that he was referring to the body flicker technique and not the Thunder Jesus technique. There weren't any markers for the flying thunder Jesus technique on the battlefield at that point either. The body flicker has been referred to as teleportation several times in the manga. Shisui even in the English dub has been said to teleport while he in reality only uses the body flicker to move really fast.