minecraft feature bloat - an open discussion 

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Or should be able to synthesize with glowstone. Or let glowsquids be a more easily accessed renewable glowstone source than witches. Or....something.

Liquid glowstone?

@@Sunshoop suddenly thermal expansion materials

@@fractalgem never played around too much with that mod lol. But liquid glowstone kinda is the only way I'd somehow mske glowstone replace glow ink sacs make sense- but i think it'd require some weird process maybe involving the cauldron or brewing station and glowstone dust. Unless there's a item that gets applied to the things beforehand and then the glowstone can be plopped on with a more glittery look cause i feel like glowstone would have that sort of look- glittery glow on stuff sounds fun

That’s what I’ve been saying

Same

Its over

I'm assuming you aren't a bug, ghost, or dark/meam person.

yeah like i saw elytras as "new" before i realized that they've been in the game longer than they haven't been. really messed w my head

@arijeanz Oh no, here we go again ^^;

They know very well that they SHOULD have drops but will never give any real life mobs a useful drop ever since around microsoft bought it out. Notice how goats dont actually drop goat horns on death despite it making sense, same with armadillos? It's a policy at this point to never make killing animals useful anymore. Which i personally find kind of stupid when killing animals could have a use but it could just be more useful to not kill them.. the sheep already did this, but microsoft is scared that people will carve armadillo skin for real life dog armor i guess

Damn i had to look that up to believe it. But yeah it's true! On top of that, they haven't added any non-vegetarian food item drops either since rabbits and changing sheep so that they drop mutton a little less than 10 years ago other than making fish actually spawn as entities (which were already a thing with fishing, they just made it more realistic), hoglins dropping porkchops and some new zombie variants dropping rotten flesh (which don't really count because they are hostile so i guess killing them is morally justified)

They think they are PETA lmao

wait goats dont drop mutton?

@@runkelpokk9 nope

I can forgive the armadillo, as the wolf armor was buffed enough to make it valuable. It adds value to finding these mobs in generally unexplored terrain like savannahs and mesas. But the copper and amethyst examples are very egregious. Copper should have uses that matter. If copper was useful, people wouldn't mind that it's used in the brush exclusively anyways because they would have gathered plenty. The clocks an age old example of this. Gold being used for it is arbitrary, it was to give gold more purpose. But gold is fairly useful nowadays. Copper just doesn't have that same factor outside of decoration and a few cheap uses.

Armadillos could have been added, if they had more than one use. If they made dog armor craftable with leather and iron, it would be lame and uninteresting obtaining it as people already have an abundance of those two resources. If armadillos/armadillo scutes were given more useful uses, it would be a good feature. Same reason why I love the addition of bees, they have so many small but occasionally very useful applications that makes the bees great. It sucks how little mojang cares about quality updates, and instead only releases these low effort updates to attract more players to the game. Not because they want to make the game better.

@@pourplecat Maybe Studded Armor that ricochets Projectiles sometimes? Would need to be a cooldown on brushing armadillos though since there wouldn't be much incentive just to brush an armadillo for like a stack and never interacting with them again

@EmeraldCrowz Yeah, there are many cool ideas that people would also love, just making it used in useful crafting recipes can make an item better aswell

I like copper blocks because they look good in builds and since this game is like canvas more colours means more capacity to be creative

Jeb must have misread out of his stupid green book that "one block at a time" rule and gotten the two confused.

It being sold?

No guys you see copper DOES have multiple uses! Building blocks, building blocks, building blocks, building blocks

*counts one crafting recipe* *counts two crafting recipes* "Alright, that should be enough"

DEI. They are incapable of doing more.

And a vanilla.plus pack like that would prolly at least have decent backpacks rather than just crappy bundles.

This is just flat out wrong lmfao.

ngl agree 1.21: added the breeze kill for breeze rod breeze rod is used only to make new weapon, a new mobility item, and a new potion almost entirely useless except for the trial chambers to make them harder

@@OnePoundBird Ugh the Breeze Rod is only used for a unique weapon, a versatile mobility item, and a kinda niche effect, SOOOO USELESSSS

@@BigMastah79your talking about one specific good mob from the update that has some good uses drops with uses let’s look at some other updates. How about the sniffer, this mob can only be obtained in a super specific way and once the player has acquired it, it’s only use is to give 2 flowers.

Redstone I feel is the simplest and most straightforward way to making multi-purpose things. The ability for automating things tends to be that way in games. It annoys the crap out of me how long they took to release it

then they nerfed it

​@@tomaszpawlik5091 How'd they nerf it?

Adding advanced or block-based components would make everyone go CRAZY. Literally any new redstone component would be nice. Instead they fix the (harmless) bugs that redstone depends on.

And then they made the crafting recipe use Iron instead of Copper, it's absurd.

Tiny counterargument against this is just that it’d weird if you couldn’t craft anything in a new update with the new stuff.

@@alphabros5226then make the updates less shit to begin with and problem solved 👍

​@@meat3958 Wow that's a really insightful comment then. Pray tell how could the updates not be bad in your opinion? Cause I feel like you'd be the type of person to complain either way.

@@alphabros5226 Already explained to you in my original comment. You should probably read that 👍

@@meat3958 How about you explain in a way that makes it seem like you can articulate above a 9th grade level

I’m cool with things having single uses, but I feel like there are to many items with one use now.

It's dumb.

It’s like they have a set formula for the new mobs: What do they drop, what ‘interesting’ feature do they show, and where do they spawn. Nothing else. One of my favorite updates is(here me out) the bee update. They just fit so well with everything else. The bees have complex rather than flashy behavior. It comes with a vehicle that spawns on pre-existing trees rather than a new structure. It also gave a new function to the fireplace and flowers.

The sniffer has two purposes Sniffing up useless plant 1 and sniffing up useless plant 2

Some things dont even have a purpose

I think you really hit the "core" of it. The people running minecraft are sitting on the aftermath of a lightning in a bottle scenario, and they're naturally trying to ride it for everything its worth, but without having a clue what made it work in the first place. So, rather than risk alienating their existing fanbase by making changes to the existing game, they are essentially doing the minimum amount of work required to maintain the interest of their already enormous audience. Which, from a monetary perspective, is a saddeningly prudent decision.

@@lightarchives5025 isint the core of minecraft minning crafting and building

⁠@@dynamitewolft4194I think they’re talking about the game from the perspective of someone trying to beat the game. The nether update was the only update in a while that really impacts that

@@HuneeBruh There's also the different ways to play of building, pvp and redstone, wich are pretty core parts of the game, and the same argument applies here as well. Like the only thing any of the new mobs change is pvp with turtle potions and the mace.

i really enjoy the biome variants of zombies and skeletons and think every biome should have them, sure they are just reskins but make each biome feel a bit more unique and they mostly drop the same stuff as the normal variants

It’s much more complicated than that. Every single interaction you have with mobs shouldn’t be killing them. It’s far more interesting to have mobs that the player interacts with in unique ways, such as making an enclosure for them and breeding them, or taking them along as a companion, or hatching their eggs and collecting the seeds they dig up.

I think they did it pretty well with sheep. If you go out of your way to interact with the systems you get upwards of triple the reward, but if you feel like just doing the easy thing and killing the animal you get less wool​@@BigMastah79

@@BigMastah79there are ways to do that. You could make it where there’s manure when you breed cattle that then acts as a lesser version of bone meal. It’s an early game bone meal alternative and gives new purpose for animal breeding. Another example would sheering feathers off of chickens, chickens and ducks naturally shed their feathers over time. You could make colored feathers from parrots. For a cool cosmetic item or even better a functional item. Another cool thing would be shaving polar bear hair for their hair. Then craft it into its own kind of armor that could also be combined with iron to make it reinforced. Add snails so you can then cook them. Add new food items to feed specific animals. Adding complex mechanics will make the game more long lasting. I can just breed sheep and cattle with wheat which I can make a farm for, use the seeds for breeding chickens, craft hay bales for llamas. That’s breeding 4 animals with just one plant. Adding more uses to animals will give us more incentive to not kill them. But most players kill cows anyways so why not give more crafting recipes to leather. They aren’t scared of innovative animals, they are scared how a specific small niche group of activists will react to their updates

@@IamPotion Horrible ideas btw. (This part is an edit: Yes I was rude for saying this. I provide context and explanation of my criticism later on in the thread.)

@@BigMastah79 okay? I was thinking on the spot so don’t expect anything I guess? Weird how you say it’s bad without elaborating anything. Shows a lack of critical thinking.

Even worse, they cant get them to work on MOBILE Afaik, due to the nature of mobile controls Which makes sense, but that literally didnt stop previous features from making it to the other versions (like the nether for instance, pocket edition had its whole own other system for that!)

i don't disagree on emotes not having a gameplay use, but these are two unrelated issues. not hypocrisy.

@@aperson558a voice of reason ❤️

Imagine being a multimillion company with lots of employees and not being able to fix one design problem lol

@@theanimatronicgamerreturn7785 ??? Bundles have many issues aside from getting them to work on Bedrock, and it’s not like they’ve only been working on Bundles lol, they’ve done work on a lot of other features.

do you really have that many enchanted books in inventory until getting a shulker?

I think bundles are fine as is. They can get rid of smaller item clog like maybe 3 stray seeds and a few other one off blocks or items that stack. I do think enchanted books would cause abit of an issue- would it be able to keep that enchantment data? I feel like that'd be a new messy system

bundles are great for mining, if you have a bunch of raw ores you can compact them into blocks and put them into bundles to save a lot of space

@@BonziBUDDY or just a few junk blocks you had to break along the way to get the ore

@@derevianne1108 yes.

Yeah because if you beat the scary impossible 😨 challenge of holding shift and placing wool you’re clearly the most skilled mc player every, and you’ll NEVER die and not know where your items are ever. Also endgame lock the ancient city too cuz it’s impossible.

@@rougeolive1120 i have mentioned this before in other places but the warden is barely a threat. even if you end up spawning him, you can run away while he's doing his spawning animation, and then he'll just walk around like an idiot for a minute and leave. once you learn his gimmick, you have to go out of your way to attack the warden for him to be a problem. it makes me dread going to the ancient city. not for the intended reason, mind you, but because it gets annoying after the third time he spawns.

"putting a death locater in an endgame structure" I don't understand why people call Ancient Cities an end game structure, when you just need a few stacks of wool, shears and an at least iron hoe, maybe torches and a pickaxe, just in case. That's early-to-mid game... Yes, it might be hard to find it and get there through caves, so you probably need a set of iron armor (which you can confidently store at your base near the City) and it would be easier to explore the City with night vision potions, but that would be just mid game.

@vasilyd8578 you can get netherite in 15 seconds with the right seed, but I wouldn't say it's an early game resource. The ancient city is intended by the developers to be pretty late game, otherwise they wouldn't give out diamond leggings and notch apples like candy.

@@CockroachTheFoul hmmm, you have a point, but if you've got to the deepslate levels (and went to the Nether Fortress for blaze rods for potions), you probably should already start to transition from iron to diamond gear, but yet not fully enchanted, which I consider mid game. Also the City is still risky area, you may go there naked, but you still can lose all the loot you've got and gear you prepared.

Dang it, i just realized how arbitrary chainmail not being craftable is It really should be craftable with *something* at the very least

Would anybody even USE chainmail though when iron is right there along with diamond? Perhaps they could make it special like gold and just give it high enchantability, but then enchanting books and villagers exsist so even that's not really useful.

@@justindishaw3219 a) just having yhe ability is enough. b) i think that's already the case, but not sure

I mean, it used to be craftable. You just had to use unobtainable fire blocks lol

I mean, in game, chainmail is worse than iron armor protection wise, and chains require an iron ingot and two iron nuggets to make, meaning to make a chestplate youd need 8 iron ingots and 16 iron nuggets, which is more expensive than the iron armor, for something thats objectively worse. I will say, not everything has to be for stats, it does have some cosmetic value, and its unique interactions with armor trims can make it some of the most visually interesting armor in the game, up there with dyed leather armor, but if youre willing to get rare armor trims and put them on chainmail for the sake of pure stylishness, having to explore to find the chainmail makes it all the more stylish since you know someone had to go looking for it to find it. If there was a crafting recipe, wearing it would seem less like a fahsion statement, and more like youre being wasteful of your iron lol. I personally feel like chainmail *should* be better than iron armor, at the very least for certain types of damage, since its uncraftable. If it was better than iron armor, then it would make chainmail another step in the games armor progression, instead of a junk item. The player would finally make iron armor, and feel confident enough to go into the deeper caves to start looking for diamonds and structures, along the way slowly finding chainmail in chests to replace their iron gear, help them go further. Leather armor has unique uses and interactions, gold armor has unique uses and interactions, both are *otherwise* worse options than iron, so maybe if chainmail gets a recipe it should have a specific niche use, that makes it suited for a specific playstyle, like how leather is intended to be someones armor of choice for mountain living, and gold is intended to be someones armor of choice for nether living. Maybe chainmail is best for cave living somehow, idk. Just brainstormin ideas

I think the tricky trials update was a step in the right direction in that regard, isnatead of a bunch of random shallow stuff added like in 1.20 they focused on that structure, the blocks, items and mobs you can find there, expanding on previous features like copper, tuff, banner patterns and decorated pots, and giving more love to underused mobs like the stray and husk. It makes me think how 1.19 could have been way better if they focused only on the deep dark or the nature aspect, instead of doing a 50/50 and making both feel incomplete

"They already follow a quality over quantity style" hehehe, it's more like: mediocre over quantity, they add very few updates that have nothing of value.

@@inexistentenouniverso9230 You 100% would have not survived the early beta updates.

I just figured out why most recent updates put a bit of a sour taste in my mouth. It's because this reminds me of the days when I actively followed and played the sims 4. *Thankfully* mojang doesn't make every new collection of items cost between 10 and 40 bucks like EA does, but it's still the same problem that generally makes the game feel more cluttered and less enjoyable.

As far as adding new blocks goes, I think it's fine and helps everyone. The issue is the way the crafting system today has a bunch of dead ends from these essentially orphaned game systems.

and wolves are still basically just a novelty. Minecraft wolves are probably older than like half this comment section

there'll still be significant community backlash everytime they do so though, keep in mind that there was a huge number of players who claimed that 1.14 "ruined villages" or that 1.16's nether "didn't feel minecraft enough"

@@Designed1 Yes, this is true. But meanwhile nobody was disappointed when they gave more uses for copper and tuff in 1.21. Adding more uses for items is easy and most people would be fine with it. And even with bigger changes, imo Mojang should stop trying to please everyone. Them being too worried about changing things is what leaves features unchanged for over 10 years since they were first added. If you try to please everyone, you please no one. The number of people who loved 1.14 and 1.16 greatly outnumbered the people who disliked it (as far as I can tell). And people with complain no matter what they do, so why worry about it? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

​@lasercraft32 they can't stop worrying about pleasing everyone though. They answer to one of the largest tech corporations in the world and possess the rights to the best-selling game of all time. If they make a change that drives a buncha players away from Minecraft, Microsoft will likely get pissy at them.

You can say things about the occasional useless item and underexplored mob, but literally every single update from 1.13-1.19 was expanding older features like the oceans, the Nether, world generation, caves, villages etc. People need to learn to see that they got exactly what they wanted and be happy about it.

Modern Minecraft feels more like modded Minecraft, than modded Minecraft - as in how disconnected and overall pointless everything feels.

​@@m0fn668you're indirectly saying that minecraft isn't minecrafty anymore which is bs

There should be additions to core elements like adding extra rooms to structures, adding ambience, changing combat, etc What they add is cool to play around with for a bit, but never makes a meaningful impact (however 1.21 was a good update, more so talking 1.20/1.19)

@@t00nedd00dThey literally changed pre-existing structures in 1.20 for archaeology

@@sboy2044 Yeah but they could've went further with it y'know

I think maybe rails should be crafted with copper and powered rails with redstone and maybe the clock could be crafted with copper and also the crafter should be copper that would give copper good uses

​@@donutstudios6353Replacing iron for copper for the basic rails and crafter is a good idea but keep powered rails the same and instead add new ones affected by oxidation.

@@yassifieddino1792 yeah that makes sense

@@yassifieddino1792 imagine how many wax you'd need to get to prevent oxidation of the whole railway system which most likely will be abandoned after getting elytra and left only as decoration... I understand that it can be automated, but that's still a chore and requires an iron farm too for shears, so, more exploitation of bees and villagers. EDIT: And if you have to make an iron farm anyway, why do you need copper rails in the first place?

they need to make emeralds more useful too

i'd like to give mojang more credit than this, honestly, because i do genuinely believe that the folks there are interested in providing new and unique updates, but i feel like something is holding them back and its not their intentions--it could be their microsoft masters, perhaps, or maybe it's complications in the development process that are more complicated than they let on and don't want to explain. i know they're doing a lot of work under the hood, though, to integrate new features that allow data pack creators to manipulate the game much more, so maybe all that extra work does it? not really sure, but either way, i definitely feel like they're missing some direction. the updates feel aimless.

@@bumblebeebowties As Mr Krabs once (or twice) said: "I LIKE MONEY!" - there you got your something.

​@@bumblebeebowtiesFrom multiple reports from Mojang Employees I've seen this isn't TheBigBad making the poor innocent Mojang do money gluttonous things, Mojang did it on their own because their company grew in size

​@@bumblebeebowtiesI heard something about an update plan for the next 50 years, if they want to be updating things that long they are holding things up for years. That would suck for the game

I want to say that there's no way they need to promote Minecraft, the top selling computer game in history, and that adding some rando endangered mob isn't going to push copies. But considering almost every Minecraft spin off game shuts down, maybe Minecraft is bleeding money for Microsoft, but they're pumping money into it for the IP/data rights.

you can just change loottables and crafts, if rabbit skin or whatever doesnt drop and isnt used anywhere it might as well not exist

Yeah, you'd basically have it not show up in Survival / in World Gen. It'd likely still exist in the Creative Menu, but otherwise would be gone from the world.

It is, theres a pretty popular mod for progression stages in mod packs that's able to completely hide an item/block from all menus remove recipes and replace it in world generation as for mobs you can just set the spawn chance to 0 or force it to despawn instantly

A datapack will do for most things. Simply changing crafting recipes and loot drops is enough for most useless items, although there are some things that cannot be changed without modding as far as i know. For example, i turned glow ink sacks into "soulstone dust", and shroomlights into "soulstone". Soulstone is a cyan glowstone that generates in warped forests, while crimson forests now generate with glowstone. But changing glow ink sacks use for glowing text on signs (so that it uses glowstone), is not possible as far as i know. It's absolutely possible to change these things with mods though.

Dude, just go back a few versions

Cookies kill parrots for education on real life issues with people who feed birds dangerous stuff. By that logic I am free to feed dogs rotten leftovers whenever I please, since minecraft deems it perfectly okay to do so. They have no fking clue what they want the game to be...

?? Meat/animal products are very much not desired to be put in compost. It in fact does not make sense Edit: A comment saying "eggshells go in compost" has a large amount of likes as if it completely invalidates my argument. Even if something is irrational but still supports the view against something, people will agree with it. Arguing on youtube is a complete waste of time as everyone is incapable of logically thinking and providing comprehensible arguments against what I say I would encourage you in all cases to think logically in an argument about what is genuinely right instead of automatically agreeing with somebody who shares your opinion, even when their argument doesn't make sense yes i know its silly im malding about egg shells

​@@pourplecat Eggshells go in compost.

​@@pourplecat Eggshells are animal product.

@@raspiankiado Besides eggshells, they do not share the same properties as meat or yolk

oh, i have a funny story involving this one: see, they did actually fix it to make them require shears for a brief moment in time, but... Technical Players whined about how it ruined their new bone meal farms that utilized automatically breaking the nether roots with pistons. so then, mojang reverted the change. i think sometimes the technical community does some... bad things for the experience of the game for others. Sometimes(TM)

and you can't even put them in pots😭

@@CreativelyJakei don't think they should've reverted it. Honestly- crafting shears isn't hard. They can just- harvest it themselves or do a flower farm cause those drop themselves and are just as easy to compost

@@CreativelyJake oh abosolutely, the technical players play the game in a way that is completely foreign to your average player. (which is fine) but their desires should not superceed the actual game experience.

@@Sunshoop also shears can be used in dispensers, so they are just complaining htat their contraptions would have to be *slightly* more complex

Minecraft defenders bring shit up like the devs have to think about balance and bugs, as if every single dev ever doesnt have to do the same thing

​@@loafofbread9400 It's funny because most of these mod makers are solo devs or a small team. Doing it for free because they love the game. Yet the company can't figure it out? The one filled with people being paid to come up with this?.. really? They can't figure out this stuff?

Old School Minecraft

It arguably isn't even working. Half of the community thinks there aren't enough features each update and the other half flirts with beta 1.7.3

I have a suspicion that Microsoft is requiring these updates and forcing Mojang's hand behind the scenes. Explains why everything since 1.19 has been really unsatisfying.

ah. The World of Minecraft begins to resemble the World of Warcraft

Rabbit Hide is a weird one to me, because it is harder to get than cows leather, and is also far less useful.

​@@MrTrubbol it's true, why not having spyglass be upgraded with gold and amethyst? Minecraft had a system based on upgrading your tools since the beginning, why not do that with the spyglass? There's already a smithing table on the game!!!

​@@MrTrubbol Also the rabbit hide is a weird one, it should have more unique uses other than being a worst hard to get leather.

Hey, that's not a bad idea

@@inexistentenouniverso9230 The unfortunate question is "What could you make with Rabbit that you cannot make with normal leather?" From where I am thinking, IRL rabbit pelts are typically used for their softer fur and finer, softer hides. One thought I have is to use it as an armor upgrade, making it so all boots are treated as leather boots, when it comes to dealing with powdered snow.

Whoa whoa whoa, lemme get this straight, you want MineCRAFT to add new items that are obtained by cleverly combining existing items via CRAFTING? That's just crazy-talk! /s

@@bobbob1876I was so disappointed with the Sniffer. That’s actually the mob I wanted, I thought it’d be really useful. Id have loved if it would give new prehistoric seeds and crops, that would only grow under certain circumstances that simulated the way they’d have grown in the past. In return, the crops give cool effects when crafted and brewed because they’re from a different time

glowstone emits light, glow ink sacs seem to be more of a glow-in-the-dark sort of thing i do think the "glow paste" is a good idea though, slimeballs SEVERELY need a new use for non-redstoners

​@@mangledfoxy2052 Discover ancient seeds and brand-new plants with the Sniffer! Nobody in their right mind is going to go, "Wow! They are clearly saying the plants will be very useless!" unless they already have no hope in Mojang. False advertising. You just get dyes from them, and you can't even clone the 2-block high ones with bonemeal like you can with other 2-block flowers!

Slime balls + ink sac + glowstone is cool too, where the slime balls act as a binder.

I actually think that a good vanilla-style backpack would be literally a chest strapped with leather on your back. Just simply a chest model on your back, like donkeys or llamas have, although looking like an actual chest.

If they implemented it correctly, bundles would be exactly that. If you could take only specific items out of instead of items in order, the clutter problem would be helped a lot.

Because shulker boxes, llamas, donkeys and now bundles already act as backpacks

What modpack

​@@EmperorPenguin1217 - End Required - Need to find tame and ride around with plus can die - Not properly implemented thus far - See prior point

Just because its "finished" doesnt mean it cant be expanded and improved though Survival minecraft def has a lot of issues with difficulty, exploration, grinding etc. that can be improved by adding new features or improving already existing ones I get that they have to be careful with the games identity and image, they can't just vomit out new content and add 10 dragons, but what they have been doing recently amounts to basically nothing What incentive do players even have to update their game after caves and cliffs in terms of actual content? The only reason I have to update my client is compatibility with my friends and servers. If I could, I would just stay on 1.19 or even 1.18 to avoid the hassle of updating my client and all my mods Imagine youre a mod maker, you have to painfully update all the junk you made to a new version because mojang decided to add PENGUINS and MONKEYS (they do nothing) Sorry for the essay

the updates are so ass that it's hard to believe they arent intentionally sabotaging themselves. mojang likes to claim that they are very careful with what they add to the game so as to not ruin it and that everything goes through rigorous quality control yet the mfs cant add a dirt slab to the game. the easiest, lowest hanging fruit feature that everyone will appreciate. that simple, a fawking dirt/grass slab. instead heres 10 new animals that do nothing. wow, such polish, many quality feature. stone cutters, that were added back in 2019, have been revolutionary for builders. nothing as good since.

@hotelhotelhotel no you definitely brought up a good point with mods/modmaker issues, I hasn't thought about that. My point is that their best case senario is one where they add nothing but people still talk about (and play) their game, so most of the "updates" are really just excuses to do PR cycles and generate hype and discussion about Minecraft

@clintshidwood4511 I've honestly had this discussion with more people than I'd like to admit, and the sentiment is pretty common. "If Mojang just added ____, the game would be so much better and everyone would appreciate it" Thing is, that blank space is filled with a different thing for each person. Sometimes, it's contradictory. It's always more difficult to implement than they originally imply. For example, lets go with your dirt/grass slabs. First, you would have to update the grass spreading mechanic to handle it. Fine, simple enough. Next you would have to consider how it interacts with mobs. Can sheep eat it? They definitely should. Also all passive mobs spawn on grass, should they also be able to spawn on the slabs? Idk. There would probably be people who would prefer it either way. Probably would be best to do some QC on that. Finally, the big one: since dirt is a natural block, do these slabs generate naturally? If so, they would need to completely revamp world generation, mob spawning, and movement mechanics to compensate for it. If not, people would probably complain about how it is unrealistic and the devs are just being lazy. That all being said, I do think mojang has a rationality behind the lackluster updates. Its just not what fans want to hear.

@@clintshidwood4511 Dont want dirt slabs

Elytra is endgame tho

@@sboy2044i can understand this argument for horses and boats, but minecarts should be expanded to match the speed of an elytra to give them some use. minecarts should be used for the same distances you need to travel constantly, while elytra should be used for exploration/basic movement.

here’s my suggestion: horses/boats are early game minecarts are speed elytras are manouverability/not being on the ground

@@sboy2044 you can reach the endgame in less than 1h which defeats the point of doing anything with horses, boats or minecarts

I think of minecarts as the only automated way to travel long distances enabling you to do something IRL instead of constantly doing angle adjustments and launching fireworks, which gets boring when you have to travel between same locations over and over again. Boats are great for early game travel and elytras are endgame for most of the players. In my opinion the only way of transportation that needs buffing is by horses as they are to big for comfortable travel in the forest, they can't traverse water quickly, saddle cannot be crafted and they are simply to slow for the effort

Because they needed to justify Amethyst existing some more.

@@SpectroliteDS I mean the recipe could just use copper, amethyst, AND glass but for some reason they didn't wanna

If they won't let a spyGLASS be made with glass, then they should at least call it a spyamethyst instead

i actually stand by that decision, maybe the amethyst crystals in minecraft have a natural lens-like structure

The last really fun time i had playing minecraft was like 2019. Im a casual who played a ton when it first came to console in like 2012. Everytime i go back these days i dont care to learn the new features because it all feels pointless, and its been like 5 years of basically every update feels pointless. I tried to go back to the caves update but tbf that kinda just felt like smoke in mirrors... most of the rocks they added were pointless. Cool for building ig. The new biomes are cool but part of the exploring should be looting and it feels like you still primarily loot the same materials from 2012(like you said notch added so long ago)

exploration only becomes fun again after you beat the Ender Dragon, get to End City and find shulkers. which I don't care about, because I am more of an explorer or builder than a progresser. thus I just cheat command myself some shulkers.

An update like that would be very easy to make, given there are tons of mods out there that fix decade-old bugs that are still in the game today, and all that while modifying the game's code meaning mojang could easily implement these changes if they wanted to

Turtle Scutes are not a good example of this. They are the PINNACLE of an item you need to go out of your way to get

@@BigMastah79 i think he means the fact that TWO DIFFERENT scutes exist, and have TWO DIFFERENT purposes (its so fucking annoying)

​@@vxzcvzop didn't even MENTION how easy they were to get there's just this one contrarian trying to defend the billion dollar corporation

@@BigMastah79They should have been consolidated regardless, not unlike saddles and horse saddles were.

@@BigMastah79 they could've make dog armor more durable and require less turtle scutes to repair it.

Yeah, 1.12 with mods is what I like to play.

Well, mods are literally what the community wants. I haven't played on tinker for a long time though, I still need to get around to that foundry and anvil they have now.

"past Notch leaving" as if Notch didn't also add random stuff all the time too... 😅

Minecraft as a game lacks design direction inherently. Too many people with too many different playstyles all play the game and it is impossible to please all of them.

@@BigMastah79 It being impossible to please all is exactly why it needs design direction.

@@ZarHakkar what direction could possibly cover all playstyles other than something like the current one?

@@BigMastah79 The point isn't to cater to all playstyles, but to pick a direction and stick to it instead of spinning around adding features willy-nilly.

they're too afraid to make hostile mobs that are real life animals

@@BonziBUDDYBecause we all know animals in real life are all super friendly as well. 😅 I bet if they ever added scorpions or snakes to the game, they would be friendly and cuddly too. 😂 Also, what about the spiders? Those are real animals, except they are huge in minecraft. Maybe they can make the armadillos huge too. :P

First time I saw an in-game armadillo it freaked me out and I had to stare at the mysterious moving block for a second. Crazy how quick the hype died for me.

I mean goats already do that

Like the armadillos in Donkey Kong Country? That would be sick

Totally, the game is trying to encourage exploration right now but the only ways to upgrade your inventory are all locked away in the late game, and at that point theres really no incentive to explore when the best you're gonna get are some iron tools and blast protection I books

That's what donkeys and llamas are for, among the other storage units

@@EmperorPenguin1217 while donkeys are at least usable, llamas have the problem that leads aren't the most reliable, and mob AI is _really_ unreliable (this is why i hate wolves, i've lost more wolves due to them getting unloaded because they didn't know how to pathfind or teleport to me, rather than them actually dying). you can at least control donkeys yourself but even then donkeys are difficult to get across certain types of terrain such as water making them not the most practical for longer explorations

@@ChromaNyan Eh as long as you have a boat and lead donkeys still work mostly fine

straight up, I think the should substantially increase inventory size, much better than adding something like the bundle with it's annoying UI

this is a good idea but, i dont think it'll ever happen. everything that mojang adds is inconsequential to the main core or the way that the average player plays the game. the trial chambers or whatever theure called are cool but it doesnt affect anything unless you go looking for them

@@legitnubtrial chambers made more sense to me when i was trading with a cartographer and i saw the monument map, mansion map, and then a trial chamber map. all 3 of those dont affect the gameplay of the average player but are still major structures that people seek out for their unique loot

I mean, the elytra is essentially magic and SHOULD be difficult to repair, so needing phantom membrane (a bit of a challenge to acquire) makes sense. I just wish phantoms were done differently, and/or that the membranes had more uses.

i think lapis was actually a good decision though, it’s abundant enough that i’ve never had problems. and lapis lazuli in real life used to be believed to have magical properties

The needle of a phonograph/turntable contains diamond irl, so there's that.

Imagine if the trims changed the stats of the armours, how cool would be that (maybe increase toughness but reduce agility, give more speed or swimming but reducing armor points, increase fire resistance but lower resistance to other damages and so on and so on)

The old problem Warframe suffered from and still does.

And more importantly they're so stupidly expensive you'll never want to use them more than four times initially which ironically enough discourages customization

I actually don’t think armor trims are an offender here in the way that was mentioned. They give smithing tables a third use (netherite and villager profession being the others that I can think of) and the fact that they don’t have another use other than cosmetics is in line with what music discs have always been, so complaining about how hard they are to get is a non-factor unless you also think music discs are a bad addition to the game. Furthermore, the fact that they can’t stack is just untrue. I don’t know if historically they couldn’t, but now they can stack to 64. Even if they couldn’t stack, the fact that you do only need a few of them offsets the problem of inventory clutter; unless you are a collector, you never are incentivized to carry more than four ever, so your inventory shouldn’t fill with them The solution proposed of adding a new workbench just adds to the problem in my opinion. We already have anvils, fletching tables, looms, smithing tables, and others. I severely doubt that the problem at hand is a lack of workbench alternatives. In fact, armor trims make full use of the functionality of the smithing table, allowing for three slots to be used where the anvil would fail at its maximum of two, showcasing a nice level of interconnectivity instead of adding “armor trim station”

@@ryotoiii7945 you’re right that we don’t need another workbench and that they give smithing tables another use. A better way to word my idea would be to overhaul the system to work somehow similar to banner patterns, so the actual item of armor trims won’t need to exist any more, reducing clutter even slightly. Also, when it comes to music discs, they are somewhat “exempt” because at first it was just a few items that took up a whole slot. But armor trims basically doubled the number of items in the game that took up whole slots while not being very common and not adding that much value. It’s the equivalent to having 3 wheat seeds in your inventory when you are starting to fill up. Music discs were more understandable because of their rarity and perceived value. Things stop being valuable when everything starts to act like 3 wheat seeds in your inventory, (armor trims-> one trick ponies).

That’s just a byproduct of having older worlds. It’s not their fault. You want them to not add new biomes or structures or something?

wanting old players to generate new chunks is entirely illogical personally, when new structures and biomes arent added, you get something like 1.17, caves and cliffs part 1. you just find all the new stuff close to spawn or just make it at base, and then you have a handful of new kind of meaningless stuff

​@@OnePoundBirdthe hell you want mojang to do? to spawn new features in the old chunks so that it would ruin existing builds?

@@OnePoundBirdcurious- do you have a better solution?

​@@OnePoundBird Caves and cliffs was unique because it went below the old world height, your idea here only works if its altering a part of the world that was previously unalterable. Like a sky dungeon 2000 blocks in the air! - example

If so, it Seems like a bandaid over the "polar bear problem".

well no one would whine about it, because if the people figured out it dropped nothing it wouldnt have even been voted. but far enough point

Game didnt need armadillos. Game needs end update

People voted to get armor for dogs, they didn't vote to get armadillos for their own sake.

How 'bout "Do not put the arnadillo as a mob vote option if you don't have at minimum three uses for the mob's extence?"

The polar beara were but the tip of the iceberg of dubious decisions.

Didn't we all say this would happen after Microsoft bought Mojang? But that got replaced by an attitude of "Oh wait, they're actually not ruining the game?" Then we fast forward to today, and "Whoops! Spoke too son, megacorps still poison everything they touch, as always..."

@@boxcarz Thor (piratesoftware) once said, and I don't remember the exact words, something about the implementation of new features. Like I know there are a few programs out there that make it super simple for even beginners to make their own items and mobs, adding one doesn't take long at all. So why does it take Mojang so long? It shouldn't. Honestly the modding community is the sole reason I'm still playing Minecraft

It’s because of parity between the 2 versions. Also I think that guys an ass.

@@lyrics_m_sic they say it's because any idea they bring up must not harm any group of people that play the game a certant way, and must be implemented in the exact same time and has the same quality for all bedrock versions (mobile, consoles, switch....)

No, it's the exact same problem Pandas are completely useless Armadillos are completely useless bar the single one feature they were shoehorned with to make them not a new panda A feature that should have never been tied to armadillos, like for example horse armor. Which in my opinion ahould follow the same rules as dog armor. Regardless of what those rules are.

@@andresmartinezramos7513 Pandas aren't completely useless. You can get slime balls from them, albeit very rarely. My point being that even though they're not the most useful they don't have anything that's unique to them that arbitrarily justifies their existence.

@@alexanderchippel The panda's one purpose is completely outdone by wandering traders added in the same update. And now it's even worse now that Oozing has been added.

@@EmperorPenguin1217 You don't seem to understand what my point is; pandas aren't good because they have utility. They're just a neat little ambient mob that gives you a little bonus that you're going to be using day-to-day. Like, a good comparison would be like the Mooshroom. It's just an ambient mob that doesn't do much but it does occasionally give you something useful that you can get other places. In comparison to something like the sea turtle which has a very roundabout way of getting one item that is barely used.

@@alexanderchippel Every mob provides ambience, that's the absolute bare minimum and pandas fail at that one purpose because they barely spawn in their own biome on purpose. The point is that their "Bonus" absolutely sucks, why would you wait ages to get a single slimeball? Mooshrooms are infinitely better, they're functionally cows but way better. Sea turtles are pretty bad in their current state but they still manage to be way better than pandas

Netherite?

notch sure does have a vision for the world

@@maris_molotov Yeah, a based one.

​@@pavelthefabulous5675 Supporting racism on the internet by calling it "based and redpilled" doesn't make you cool or a better person.

@@pavelthefabulous5675do you like Qanon stuff? Cause he does.

Sniffer could've had the plants emit light. There's no reason the Torchflower doesn't. Or even had unique particles for the Moonflower thingy. Sure it's "useless" but you have to seek out sniffers anyways so I could live with it. Phantoms is it's own issue. Membrane could stand to have more uses though I agree.

Glowing signs and item frames could also just use glowstone dust.

@@vinsplayer2634 Very true. But I don't feel like Glowstone is that useless so at least it justifies the glow squids I guess.

Tinted Glass DOES use glass though...

@@EmeraldCrowz They could easily implement more Sniffer plants in future updates, but knowing Mojang, I don't think they will. :(

But one extra block of reach is still a gamechanger. It would be the most sought after item for pvp, and even if it is disabled for pvp, the building options and redstone capabilities are endless. Even just mining would be a little bit easier. I do feel however that it should be an end game item and getting it from crabs off a beach seems very early game to me. Perhaps there should be an end crab variant that drops it instead. Definitely more uses than wolf armor and armadillos. Wolf armor couldve absolutely been done just like horse armor

I think the main problem with minecraft feeling the same is not that you're boring, but minecraft haven't changed anything to a casual player. The new mobs aren't integrated at all, they just are there for the wow value and it dies pretty quickly, that's when they introduce the next one to kick it back up.

@@nati0598 I agree, I just couldn't quite put it into words!

I feel like that would just push the one trick pony style into the structures, where you need it to craft an item.

@@nati0598 hmm ig, though it doesnt have to be just one item per structure

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Hard disagree. The only metal that retains any use through progression is Iron. Weapons, armor, and accessories become completely obsolete at the drop of a hat, and either clog your inventory while you wait for their one crafting upgrade or get sold. Multiple bases was shoehorned in in a very late update. Is it interesting? Sure. Don't forget the years and years of minimum viable structures and space stations, though. Terraria's various building materials are roughly on par with Minecraft's.

@@auraguard0212 i dont think it's as bad as in minecraft. Terraria is more about "0.2% weapon drop from a very specific mob that becomes obsolete after like the first boss or the first hardmode boss" problem

i never even knew it existed in the first place

Would it be hard to add that to Minecraft?

@@youtubeuniversity3638 It would be a fair bit of work, given there's a lot of entities and effects to code it for. Potentially a huge task, if the game's fundamentals don't play nice with time bubbles, usually games are built from the start with this sort of functionality in mind. But project zomboid, another java based game has it, so it's mostly a case of how much effort they're willing to put into it.

@@loveluclins I don't think this would be hard to implement actually. It is easy for a chuck to save it's unload time and compare it with current time when it gets loaded again.

Although it would would increase chunk loading time cause every chunk will have to process random tick logic for the time it was unloaded when it gets loaded again.

I like the name, lock and key design. Although making a key to fit a lock is a problem in itself, I think mojang makes the key first and then wonders what the lock should be.

@@nati0598 usually the problem is either trying to force the finding of one or the other. PvZ with cattail countering balloon zombies and fulfilling a unique role is a great example of how to go beyond it. Simply giving your key something else to do than be a key. Like imagine rabbit hide and armadillo scutes making saddles, or turtle scutes making parrot armor. Amethyst and copper making prismarine shards or something.

They give old features uses all the time. Amethyst, Copper, and Tuff have all been revisited with new features and items. In 1.16 Glowstone received new functionality with Respawn Anchors. You can also look at how items are given more functionality in less indirect ways. Trial Chambers provide areas to use your equipment in the midgame. The Deep Dark makes Hoes a useful tool for harvesting experience. Wool is a vital part of city exploration. Features may be unrelated, but they can synthesize together to accomplish new things. Sculk Sensors and Amethyst Resonance can combine with various other redstone components in order to create new types of machinery, Lush Cave plants can be used in tandem with other plants to create new scenery and landscaping. Look at the synergy that blocks enable in addition to their raw, basic usage. And let’s be real, what’s Apple Pie doing for the game? If Mojang added it you’d just call it useless.

Each of these new updates added 1-2 new uses for some undesirable item. There is a lot of undesirable items, with more being added each update. At the rate each update is being made, there will be more of these items anyway. Systems should interconnect well with each other, not just "ehhh, letsa just slap it 'er, it' ll do fiiiine now"

@@littlehorn0063 do you have examples of what you’re talking about?

I would go further and say that copper should replace the iron in the rail recipe entirely. Although the minecarts are a whole different story, I would have copper make like 6 rails and if you use iron you would get 32. That's what I would do, many options with the same effect.

i don't really know either, which is why i try to get into their head space in the video. i still can't really figure out what their overall game plan is, though.

​@@bumblebeebowtiesWhat they want is Money. They don't, in fact, want to make a video game. Minecraft is a means to an end, and nothing else.

Yes exactly! Especially the caves to me are the worst, i love the spaghetti caves, why did they make it so there are enormous caverns literally everywhere and the few connecting tunnels that exist are annoying to walk through

I don't really agree, I love the expansive caves. Clogging inventory is a problem, I solve it by, get this, _not mining them._ It also got solved by the ores giving raw resource (that is compressable) from both stone and deepslate ore versions. If there is one cave I hate though it's that slanted slice cave, even my 2x2 mining staircase is easier to walk through.

​@@nati0598I absolutely agree with you I love the caves, I love exploring in them I hate having to be selective about what I mine And I absolutely *despise* having to inventory manage every littke while.

This was my issue while recently playing as well. All the one trick pony items can easily be ignored but going cave exploring isn't the same anyone, now it's giant caverns you better hope a skeleton won't shoot you down into

I simply don't enjoy vanilla mining anymore. Thankfully, there are mods that fix this. Though they are all complete overhaul so my friends don't want to play them.

Foxes have a use! getting emeralds in a few extremely niche challenges! Oh, you meant a use that'll ever come up in normal gameplay? yeah I got nothing.

Yup, now I only ever play modded, not even those QoL mods like yung's X or jei, I need something extreme like gregtech or thaumcraft.

Sniffers are the worst mob in the entire game just because: 1: They're incredibly useless 2: The player has to go out of their way in order to bring the sniffer into the game. Which makes them even worse than something like the polar bear because of the fact that when you see a polar bear in the wild it's like "Oh that's cool i guess" and then you move on. It's useless sure, but it at least adds to the area you find it in, sniffers don't have an area you find them in, you gotta go out of your way to get them to spawn.

i still think that there's something missing with bundles, some missing piece of design that would really take them from good to fantastic, but i'm not really sure what they could do. if they would just add them as-is to start with, that'd already be huge, though.

@@bumblebeebowties that missing piece is to make them put ANY item to 64, even the unstackable one(they'll still look like individual items in there