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use a whitelist and add only your friends is one way of protecting your server, there are other things you can do but for some reason alot of people dont even do this@@FinnMusic16
@@ethanogle9088 yeah, like, griefing i kinda understand, is like what misterepic said, is a type o trolling, but what do you get from a automated grief????
The fact that their reasoning (or at least one of them) for griefing servers is "if I don't do it now I won't be able to in the future" REALLY shows how big of scumbags these people are.
Sounds like the idiots that go running around murdering people just because they use the same logic. Yeesh Welcome to the Mouse Utopia Experiment Version Human. Enjoy the Decline.
Yeah that excuse doesn't fly. "oh well it would have been someone else" we aren't playing ifs and buts. You did it asshole. We aren't talking about someone else doing it, the problem is HE DID IT. He could easily be educational and informative without being this fucking malicious.
Griefing random people's servers automatically is a cowardish, stupid and mentally ill behaviour. What kind of monster just decides to ruin people's fun and hard work just because their lifes are so unfulfilling that their only way to achieve a smudge of emotion is to cause harm to other people. This behaviour is downright disgusting
i smell a lot of unemployment on this reply section. tbh tho, fuck those guys, their unemployment and massive ego is destroying hundreds of clueless kids' servers just for the lols. their exploits are ultimately weak however, you can just turn on whitelist and make regular backups. the dumbasses that said "cope" or "cry more", are probably just some bored-ass teenagers with nothing better to do, going out of their way to grief random people.
Ogmur saying essentially “If I didn't grief, someone else would” and claiming that he’s doing it to help make people more aware angers me. You can make them aware without causing irreversible damage to people’s cherished builds
i love the fact that they are bullying children with the most childish behaviour possible. not only children of course, but most people in this try to make themselves ""look good"" by saying they are only bullying children, because it's sooo much better being mean to underage people -.-
I hate the low lifes that grief random servers just to make people mad. I can't go for a week on any small survival realm without people's stuff getting stolen and my house getting blown up.
@@ZenithSolsticeYT yes, I’m talking about other servers, of course the only way to stop people like that is to turn on whitelist (or just use enderchests)
8:54 - *Yah but he's still kinda an asshole.* "If it wasn't me it would've been someone else"- The age old battlecry of those looking to cope/justify there wrongful actions so they don't have to face themselves or lose any sleep at night over how they hurt others. whether or not Ogmur does it or someone else does not make his own actions correct. Nor does leaving ways to combat against griefing *only after* completely F-ing up someone else's entire server.
Yeah, saying "if it was me it would've been someone else" is literally just saying "well if someone is going to be upset, at least let me able to enjoy their misery" Those people are psychopaths
@@fuzzyd1436 Definitely, and the people who say "if you don't take this precaution you deserve this" are the "she shouldn't have worn that dress" types.
Although vastly different extent of harm, it is the same type of flawed reasoning: a person looking to justify their bad behavior and blame their victim(s).@@HAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
I've had the user "shepan" repeatedly try to join one of my servers several months back. I had whitelist on, and upon checking the server log, I saw several dozens of connection attempts. I set the port for my server to a custom number, and this issue subsided.
had that shepan guy aswell, logged on next day and someone joined under my username and /filled it with racism and massive holes 💀💀they were stupid enough to not notice the backup plugin however
I enjoy manual greifing, and I prefer more of a trolling approach as the 99% of people I meet don't deserve it who in their right minds would automate greifing?? like just ruining the most magnificent art form shout out to serverfinder plugin for meteor and coppenheimer
I really don't like people saying something like, "At least it's me who have done it and someone more bad will do it, and at least I have the decency I teach them how to ensure this doesn't happen again. After having my fun destroying this server." My guy you can do the nice thing, log into server, not grief and tell people how to secure their own servers. It's like you got beaten up by a rando for doing nothing to them and then they say "hey, come let me teach you how to defend yourself."
Yeah pretty much. It's textbook "I'm guilty and coping with it" behavior. It's gaslighting victims of terrible behavior into thinking they're at fault for it, when they're really not. It's just someone trying to absolve themselves from guilt. The reality is that *maybe* a few of the servers he griefed would've been griefed without him doing it. Most of them would've been fine had he not done anything. Deep down he's guilty about it, but it's fun for him so he made up a way to make himself seem like the good guy for doing bad things.
@@wholesome193 They're using server scanners. I'm pretty sure many other people would find that IP and grief and not tell how to secure for next time. Then again they could just not grief or provide a save state (something they could also automate and use when the server owner asks). I guess they like doing a little trolling but they could give save states.
This. It would be so simple to do some very noticeable yet easy to clean up griefing with signs pointing the person to a site that tells them how to secure their server. At that point, they've been warned and if a "more bad" person comes along afterwards and destroys their world, then it's their problem.
Guy smashes a kid's sandcastle: "See kid? That's why you need to defend your sandcastle, to prevent guys like me from destroying it." Kid: "B-b-b-but ... what about my sandcastle ~~~ I've spent so much time on it ~~~ 😭😭"
genuinely disgusted by these people. ‘oh, if i didn’t do it, someone else would’ is LITERALLY the excuse of a serial killer. don’t for a second pretend you’re on a high horse, that you’re ‘showing them the dangers of being unsecured’, because you’re not, you’re like an actual child ruining others’ joy for a filthy dopamine high. the only possible excuse for this behavior is literal nihilism (‘you’ in a general sense, not talking to anyone in particular)
I believe that mass griefing like this could be considered unprovoked harassment. "It's just a block game" or "it was all in Minecraft" aren't excuses for harassment that the courts will except. As far as I know, there isn't an exception to making or acting out threats in videogames. However, it's not just about the griefing because maybe that as an isolated incident could be dismissed. They have also created software specifically to spy on victims on mass, which flys right in the face of any good intentions. Additionally, some of those victims were likely known to be minors or mentally disabled and these groups are legally protected from spying or harassment in most countries on the planet, even if it's digital in nature.
imagine your server is like a memorial of a death person you love and play with in the minecraft world. Griefer just join and destroy everything is leaving you with a mail 💀
Well, if you went out of your way to host it on a public IP address, you should probably at least have some basic sense of online server security like having some kind of authentification (password or whitelist). These servers were literally set up to automatically give full access to anyone wo asks (no auth) and while that's fine for servers on a home network, it's very bad for anything accessible from the internet.
@Tomas-yg1xz A lot of people who play minecraft casually do not know what say bedrock edition is even if they play it It's unrealistic to expect them to know that
This happened to my server recently. I ran a small cracked server for friends and some old school mates to join for around a ~year I want to say. Never really thought much about security; I ran a few servers around 2015-2016 with absolutely no whitelist or anything and nothing really scary happened back then. I was a bit smarter this time, as I did have the whitelist enabled because i heard that people would join to blow everything up. Anyway, fast forward to 2 months ago, I had just reconnected with a group of friends with whom I used to play back in the day. I removed the whitelist for THREE DAYS to let everyone join and when I logged on during the weekend, everything was destroyed. Bases super far away from the spawn were obliterated. Spawn buildings destroyed and everything. Looking back, that was probably a really bad idea but I didn't know any better I guess. (P.S. I think it was that "ogmur" guy potentially, I remember seeing something about that on the screen when I logged on.) Anyways, that's a hard lesson learned for me. I had no idea this was such a widespread issue. Thanks for this video mate, you definitely earned a subscribe here.
@@TheMisterEpic Bro's talking about how his sever got brutally molested by griefers and you're like "glad you enjoyed" 💀 fr i enjoy when my server gets griefed because spending thousands hours for something for it just to get destroyed is fun you know 💀
The same happened to our server but actually some of the players were able to witness it, we were able to install a back up filles, but lost some hours of work
It really says a lot about you as a person when you have to join random peoples servers and ruin there days. Of all the things you could be doing in the world this is the most useless and disgusting thing you can be doing. I hope these people find any other hobby and find happiness without tearing others down
how terminally online do you have to be to develop these bots? I swear, I'm a tf2 player and it feels like some will stop at nothing just to make sure others can't have fun.
It's mental illness combined with no job or life. The last time I played TF2 every game I'd join there was some loser who had set up a bot to headshot everyone.
Fun fact: the fifth column actually went after one of my friends personally and was planning on raiding our server JUST cause we were friends with her. They never did tho lol
@madvlad-pe5zmeven 19 is pushing it a bit. I'd say anyone older than 15 doing this is just incredibly immature and a horrible horrible person. If he feels okay about doing this to people online then what's stopping him doing nasty things to random people in the street.
@madvlad-pe5zmexcept they didnt program any of that, they used someone else's project to find cracked servers, change username to the owner's, then grief. They arent smart at all
I always learnt from very ethical people. Considering even that searching stuff was made by a 16 yo, I always was in the other hand being thought how to secure your servers, and how to protect yourself and others. Not the first time where we’ve found vulnerable servers of peers and told them “it’s not secure, you should consider making it better” I never was in an relation also FYI, and currently 19.
Ogmur griefing servers "just" to teach people how to protect their servers against griefing AND giving tutorials about griefing is like shooting a school "just" to give them a lesson about strenghtening their security while also leaving propaganda to your gun store. Plus, younger players won't go into discord and learn how to code to not get griefed again, which are arguably the most vulnerable and the ones with bigger repercussions. That's simply stupid to justify griefing with such a silly answer, the guy clearly makes money from it and is just trying to disguise it as some twisted form of education.
@@callbolt i mean the scale doesn't matter. griefing is vandalism, you don't rob someone to show them how easy it is to steal their wallet. (i love using weird comparisons) these griefers just want to destroy, to get attention, and probably to see their parents again -_-
Why can't we just play Minecraft, have fun, hang out with friends, and be chill? Why ruin so many people's days? These aren't trolls they are straight bullies. Like griefing friends servers is fine but not innocent random servers, atleast let them make a backup.
ran into one of these server scanner bots on a public server a while back the bot just warned us about the potential malicious bots and left (essentially doing a PSA) good to know there was at least one person trying to use the tech for good EDIT: got to the anti-griefers part of the video. pretty sure it was them actually.
Imagine sneaking into someone's house and destroying it and then thinking "Well if I didn't do it someone else would have, so it is good that I did it."
And then the criminal proceed to explain how to effectively lock your doors after he broke in and demolished you house. totally helpful it isn't like that info could have been given earlier when it could have been useful.
mat goes in your house and offers you a lock for your window. shrekt goes in your house, smashes every wall, robs you, and then asks you to join his discord server to fix your window.
This is happening to my servers right now. Whitelist is enabled and no single bot came through thanks to online mode, but all the attempts of connecting to the server where done with our correct active usernames. And we don't use standard ports for hosting. They are not joking, they mean it.
Multiple reasons. It could be a toxic coping mechanism or just psychopathic behaviour, along other stuff Griefers will always dodge answering this fully though, and just resort to insult you in hopes to get you mad and divert the topic
@@daridon2483 just goes to show really, 5 months later and this comment in particular goes unanswered. every other comment has some random asshat blowing everyone's ears off about huffing copium and staying mad.
If you host any servers, this is why you should always keep it up to date with security methods (such as online mode, whitelist, and/or security plugins) and ALWAYS make backups. I made a python script to automatically backup my servers every 6 hours, and it proved useful as my main server had every structure annihilated. Stay safe and think like a greifer when managing servers.
That moment when it only goes up from here. The same tools used to scan and check servers, can also be used to check user accounts. So you could get a bot join your server, scan you, then join every server you have connected to.
this happened to a group of my friends and i! several unknown people showed up at various times, but only one of them spawned any blocks. it was just a few pillars, no lava or anything, but still a very scary experience for what was supposed to be a casual romp with friends. i will never understand why people do this.
Matscan was on our server a few months ago, right before I was logging off. I told my bf to whitelist the server a few days before but on that day I looked right over his shoulder so that he really did it! There are so many good people around and I was happy we met one that day :)
I think the main reason my friends and I haven't been hit been hit by any server-scanning griefing attacks is because we pretty much exclusively play modded and use custom mod sets, in addition to a whitelist. So even if an account were compromised, the griefer would need to figure out all the mods that are on the server required on the client to connect. Too much effort to go through for most people doing this when they could just move on to the next target. The mods effectively act almost like a second whitelist. On top of that, several of my friends who I play minecraft with are mod developers, and we often run private servers with development builds of their mods not yet available to the public, meaning in order to get in and grief they'd need to hack into the computer of someone who plays on the server (or playtests the mods otherwise) and acquire these mods that way, which is illegal and easily caught via logs if they aren't careful.
Augma: Uh, I haaave to grief servers NOW, or I WON'T be able to LATERRR! See, it's ok if I destroy the builds of innocent players just trying to enjoy their afternoon.
"All the servers are being destroyed, so I want to have a chance to destroy one before they're all gone!" Reminds me of the kinds of people who go out of their way to kill endangered species because they want an opportunity to hunt one before they go extinct. At least these guys are doing it in a children's block game, I guess.
My mc server was attacked many times in the past, it was trully a horrible expierience. So here are some advises on what to do if you have a cracked server: 1. Whitelist on 2. Add some type of authentication 3. Make so that nobody before auth has op 4. Cancel every possible event in your plugin before login 5. Make logging proccess in a diffrent mc world 6. MAKE BACKUPS !!!
the way I see it, the people who do this never matured beyond 11-12 years old🤷♂️ it's a pretty douchbag move to go around ruining someone else's hobby because you don't have the empathy to see value in their work
I had experienced it before. I was playing with my friends on my own server and some random players started joining. Luckily I was online and immediately shut down the server. I then enable whitelist afterward to prevent it happening again.
With the last server I had before switching to bedrock, I had someone log in randomly but it was pretty wholesome. I didn't have time to get on it that day and forgot to set up the whitelist. When I eventually hopped on, I found a little building on the beach near spawn with a chest full of ores in it. Someone had found the server, dug down to diamond level, branched a bit, and left me all the stuff they mined with a sign letting me know to enjoy it.
Mojang could really have been avoiding this chaos caused by griefers by turning on all servers the whitelist option on by default and this would have not been a problem at all.
It often can be more a host issue, as they can change the config as the server is made so even if Microsoft changed it not much protection would be addrd
whitleist shoudnt be an option, you should be forced to use it, larger servers can just create automatic whitelist plugins and shit, but this would stop griefing very fast. imo mojang should also add some way to detect griefing and just delete accounts of griefers. if they run windows they should also just wipe the persons entire network
I remember these griefers invaded a minecraft server me and my friends had. I was safe since I had an underwater base but everyone else's large projects and bases were all destroyed. It completely killed everyone's motivation to play on the server even when our friend did a rollback, shit sucks.
I had a bot join my game named "matscan" and it straight up said "Hi im a friendly bot .. blah blah blah... this server does not have a whitelist" then gave me stuff how to whitelist it. Never closed my server faster in my life
I myself was scanned by matscan and server seeker, and was terrified. After matscan joined nothing happened and then some other bots started showing, one being an actual player who started spamming the anticheat logs. I thought I had whitelist enabled, but no, I had not. Since then I always make sure the whitelist is enabled.
I actually had a bot join my private server that sent a message in the chat warning anyone that could be on to make sure to whitelist the server so that griefer bots don't get on. That server has been exclusively whitelisted since
On a serious note: greifing is a scumbag thing to do, but I could understand why people might find it fun Mass griefing and automated griefing? I’m speechless at the lack of value in these people. I hope that whatever they are going through that made them this way can get better.
How ironic, the server my friends and i owned nearly got grieved today. Thankfully we reacted quickly shut down the server. There should be a law to detain these ppl who do this for fun
@@Tar.o ik but there r ppl who spend their time to "relief" their stress by playing on servers like mine. The server im playing is filled with college students like myself. Yk how hard college can get, and the things they made to release their stress got destroyed @_@. Maybe detaining ppl is abit too far lol, at least punish these ppl with sth
Imagine enjoying minecraft with your friends, building magnificent structures, then a random player joins, "/fill"s the entire fucking world with lava and tnt, and you all get to witness every single tnt ignite and blow up the blocks, every single lava burn down the forests and houses, and watch as your work that you've worked hard for days or months or even years get reduced to atoms. Damn, what monsters to do such destruction. If you're a griefer, uhm, don't do it lol, unless you want your life and your soul ripped apart. There are better entertainment alternatives than destroying other people's works, a lot actually.
It wasnt Jebs server. That server was running Carpet mod where you can summon NPC to afk for you. When NPC dies it auto "logs off". Also in the griefing video there was a moment with f3 and the server was running non vanilla software.
As someone with a obsession with backups i feel no fear My smps have been greifed by randos before and i just love watching their joy turning to anger when i tell them i have a backup from before they joined
I think I had one of these bots target me once. Kept seeing some random account joining in the logs. I was running a heavily modded server though so I think it wasn't able to actually do anything.
As another comment said, mods act as a second whitelist The griefers need to have the exact mods the server is running or else the client will be incompatible and will be unable to join, which is more effort than normal and thus they usually lose interest on you
Instead of whitelisting it'd be nice if players were in a restricted version of adventure mode that just allows them to spectate. I actually like talking to random server seekers that pass by... The only downside I see to this is filling the player cap + CPU usage
Shit like this is completely pathetic. I can't imagine people putting forth so much effort just to ruin others' fun. People like that need to get a life and actually touch grass
I would genuinely like to meet these people who have so little going on in their lives that they make it their mission to destroy what others make completely unprovoked - is it that much of an incentive/reward to see people upset at the destruction of their hard work? God forbid you do something nice or productive rather than ruin everyone else's fun
with server scanners i just join random servers and i play with them peacefully and i made some good friends and memories using them, but nowadays i instantly get banned from any server i join because so much griefers nowadays.
There is something called port scanning, people port-scan the minecraft servers, if Bungeecord has a open vulnerable port, especially on cracked servers, you can straight up UUID spoof your way in the server, bypassing the /register auth, and get full OP on the server. So much big servers got destroyed with this and griefing groups, its worth mentioning, if you want to, future video idea :D
i was an admin on a "private" server owned by a musician that ended up being scanned and griefed randomly by that ogmur guy. glad to see people mentioning it
luckily, it looks like griefers lack the talent to do so. and thank god no one is wasting that much of their life on griefing, like jeez, imagine making bots to automate griefing, that would be so pathetic. amirite guys???
man some of these people just need to touch grass get a social life and a job so they dont have enough time to grief minecraft servers, i feel like their dedication can be put towards other things that are more productive
minecraft server griefing bots/port scanners are funny, i sometimes host beta 1.7.3 servers and it's priceless to watch protocol errors in console from them attempting to join using latest versions
All this contains really inciteful lessons about cybersecurity; don't use the default port, have a whitelist, make backups, etc etc. No matter how sad people get, introducing the masses to these unfortunately niche topics through Minecraft is remarkable.
