Minecraft Last Life SMP - Shadow Lore Explained 

The fact that Grian told everyone the rules, and he seems to be the most knowledgeable in this would link to the watchers because if they created this perpetual time loop, Grian would be the one that knows the rules the best as he’s had to watch them for an eternity.

Damm the watchers must’ve loved Lizzie’s final death, betrayed, confused, new

"The moon is like an eye in the sky" Meanwhile on Hermitcraft: "Moon big"

That’s insane, this man practically created a fandom then freaking revived it single handedly. Crazy

Another thing with Grian not belonging there and being a watcher could get connected to his absolute slaughtering of a bunch of his old team and with him having maybe a similar hunger as the watchers do :b

well, that got dahark honestly I love the idea of Grian as a rogue Watcher trying to protect his friends from the other Watchers. But how does that jibe with this whole thing being Grian’s idea in the first place? (Or is that where the line between canon and behind-the-scenes is?) also love that from any other perspective this is just “Ren and Marten being weird”. Real iceberg meme scenario.

I know that season 3 is still just a possibility, so these ramblings are just for fun, but i was thinking up alternatives for the boogeyman curse to pass the time at work and came up with concept for a bounty system. Like at the beginning of a round 1 or more random people have a bounty placed on them, and if they survive the full 3 hours they receive a life, but if someone kills them, that person gets the life instead. It gives the players a choice where the boogeyman curse didnt, you can betray your team and gain a life, or you can protect your ally and have a stronger team in the long run (or you could lose it all if you fail to defend your ally). Its just an interesting dynamic to think about. It would put a lot of tension on alliances in a completely different way than the boogeyman. Anyway, enough of that! I absolutely loved how your series turned out and the thought you put into it! Very excited to see what you make in the future, weather its another season of last life or something completely new

to be honest, ever since Evo ended and ever since people started using the watchers as a plot point in fanfictions or fan arts or AUs for Hermitcraft, I have always been theorizing on what their motivation could be. I like the idea you came up with very much, and I absolutely adore the idea of 3rd life/last life being an infinite loop, with each time a few new people get sucked into the mess. I do however am still pretty much very confused with what the watchers or the listeners do, why they do their things and their role in the world, since canonically the watchers was meant to represent the viewers I guess the watchers putting the last life players on a infinite could symbolized the viewers wanting more. it's sorta similar to Danganronpa V3's ending in a way, it shows a sadistic fanbase who wants to see the players suffer for entertainment and it's true to an extent, obviously, we're not sadistic enough like the fanbase Danganronpa V3 was depicting, or hell, like Squid game where the rich put the poor on a dead game for entertainment, but we do want _more_ . A season 3 has been highly requested and hinted. The watchers puts the players in these death games for entertainment, and for their roles in universe? it's probably in a sense similar to the irl viewers as most of the players are full time CCs, the irl viewers act as a way these CCs make a living, and I'd like to think that the watchers are similar to that. Honestly I've always headcanon for the Watchers and the Listeners to be sorta like a Mojang kinda character where they helped update the world and stuff (considering that's what they did on Evo), so that's just my bias theory. I don't really think this is supposed to put us the viewers in a bad light (same to Danganronpa V3's ending), more so it's the concept of a character massively breaking the 4th wall and finding a way to get out and do their own thing without the influenced of a Watcher or a Listener idk what I'm trying to achieve with this comment, just some thoughts I have ig, I like the idea of the Watchers and the Listeners being morally grey and the Watchers not being as bad as we first thought, or the Listeners not being as good as they seems

1:34:44 I am actually working on a dramatization of Third and last life. This video is helping me immensely.

Summary! (with time stamps) Continuation in replies THIRD LIFE 02:09 - In the latter end of Martyn's season, he first comes into contact with "The Shadow", seemingly taking a liking to Martyn. 03:16 - Martyn wanted to betray Ren and declare "RED WINTER HAS ENDED, NOW RED SPRING HAS BEGUN" for a finale. That didn't happen. 04:41 - The arc words "Our Will Be Done" appear for the first time. 05:36 - The Shadow are dissatisfied. What they seek is a mystery for now. "Change is in order" refers to the boogeyman change. THE TEASER 06:33 - Martyn releases a Last Life teaser with the words: _Long have we waited_ _A hunger grows_ _Surpass them all_ _Take friends for foes_ _Live not for others_ _Invest in one_ _For if they fall_ _Ere will be done_ "Take friends for foes" blatantly refers to the Boogeyman. "Ere Will Be Done" should normally be "Our Will Be Done", which means something is up with the words. And indeed, if you look at the first letter of each line it spells "LAST LIFE". EPISODES 1 TO 8 07:51 - Episode 1. Something happens off-camera (which we'll get to in Episode 9). 08:23 - Episode 2. Martyn plans on linking up with Ren in some way or another since the very beginning. 10:11 - The Shadow plans out a secret clan and sends a message to Martyn. This "shadow clan" was supposed to have members scattered all around the different alliances (namely Martyn, Ren, Lizzie, Pearl, and Etho), so that by the end of the series they could finally reveal themselves to each of their alliances by word of Martyn. Unfortunately that didn't happen the way Martyn planned. 11:58 - The Shadow speaks once more: _Sacrifice those that landed_ _Lessons acknowledged_ _Can claim flags among ashes_ _Help another, never doubt_ _When in need, traverse each route_ The second half plays with the first letter of each word, which spells: "HAND WINTER", very clearly referencing the Red Winter. Deciphering the first half is more complicated. If you take the first letter of the first word, the second letter of the second, and so on, you get "SHADOW" and "CLANS". We reset after "Acknowledged" because the word "SHADOW" is already spelled out by then. 14:47 - Episode 4. Martyn is deciding on a theme for the Shadow Clan and decides (after a discussion with Ren at the end of the episode) to theme it around the moon. 15:27 - While the discussion happens at the very end, the words of The Shadow give us a hint at around the halfway point in the episode: _Tell a lie_ _Sow the seed_ _Undermine_ _Know and free_ _It must be done_ "It Must Be Done". Last time we had a deviation from the arc words "Our Will Be Done" we knew something was going on with the first letters, so let's try the same thing. Taking the first letter of each line gives us "TSUKI", which is Japanese for "moon". 16:50 - You'll recognize the Kanji for moon "月" as the symbol on the back of Martyn's cloak. 23:41 - Supposedly there would be a 月 symbol in the bunker's wall with lava flowing beneath it but that takes too much time, so that never happened. 17:41 - Martyn chose Ren because of Red Winter. He wanted Lizzie in because her username had "Shadow" in it, and he also wanted Pearl in for the same reason: her username had "moon" in it. He also considered bringing in Etho just because he's sneaky. Nevermind Etho putting a bounty on Martyn 3 episodes later, and Ren giving Pearl the codename "Shadow Clam" and not "Shadow Moon". 18:44 - Episode 5. Martyn plans on sealing the alliance by giving Ren a life, putting them all at 3 lives. Too bad Timmy ran off with one of them. To make the chase scene less boring CC!Martyn throws in some more "Shadow Speech": _FORGET THE RULES_ _THE OPPORTUNITY_ _RETRIEVE IT NOW_ _THE REST WILL AGREE_ _END THIS BETRAYAL_ _DO NOT LET HIM ESCAPE_ Since this is a chase scene, Martyn emulated the motion of the feet by alternating between the first letter of the first two words in each line. That means we're looking at the first letters of the words "FORGET", "OPPORTUNITY", "RETRIEVE", "REST", "END", and "NOT", which spell out "FOR REN", which is exactly what he plans to do with the life. 22:24 - Martyn meets with what was formerly the "Fairy Alliance", and lends Ren a life, officially rebranding into the "Shadow Alliance" just as he had planned 3 episodes prior. Big B was also brought into this just because he was there when the alliance was declared (also he had 3 lives just like the rest of them). 24:09 - The most nutty coincidence in Martyn's series. The Shadow speaks: _Why do you linger so_ _You wish to join the shadow?_ _Boo!_ _[A pumpkin face appears]_ _A demonstration is in order_ _Lights extinguish_ _Begin the slaughter_ _OUR WILL BE DONE_ "Begin the slaughter" refers to the carnage that followed in Episode 6. "Lights extinguish" refers to the Shadow Alliance's goal of engulfing the world in darkness. It gives the idea that darkness is good and light is bad. We'll get to the other lines later, including the pumpkin face. 26:45 - Episode 6. Since the carnage happened, Martyn decides to throw in a line from the sequence into his conversation with Grian: _This is quite the demonstration_ Martyn says that line in front of Grian, and Grian passes it off as an unusual euphemism (probably referring to the chaos that happened earlier in the session). From Martyn's POV, he said it so he can overlay The Shadow's words right on top. 28:03 - Episode 7. Martyn had just witnessed Timmy and Mumbo's deaths, fueling his anguish. After Martyn is chosen as boogey, The Shadow speaks again, pumpkin face included: _Your time has come_ _To sever ties_ _Four towers burn_ _The last one dies_ _Our Will Be Done_ "To sever ties" means Martyn has to disconnect from the South at this point. "Four towers burn" refers to the burning of the walls that happened in the previous episode. "The last one dies" expects Martyn to be the last southerner standing. There's also a specific reason why Martyn targeted Grian but we'll leave that for episode 9. 30:14 - Joel was there dinging Grian, and Martyn would have investigated had Grian not said he was on the opposite side. 30:36 The reason CC!Martyn opted for a crystal play is because he wanted Grian to go off with a bang, and he didn't like the appeal of using arrows or swords and axes. Since the first crystal didn't do enough damage (Thanks, easy mode) he was considering throwing another crystal and at the same risking his health. He ultimately decided against it, but by the time he made that decision it was too late: Joel had already sniped Grian, and the ender pearl finished it off. 32:11 - Episode 8. Martyn "hallucinates" Timmy and Mumbo doing their intro. In Mumbo's intro he mentions the word "infinity", which will come into play later in episode 9. 35:43 - Martyn is breaking down. His friends are gone. The South is gone. As he runs to Ren for help, The Shadow scolds him. The following conversation ensues: _THEY'RE ALL GONE_ _N-no!_ _IT'S YOUR FAULT_ _You said only HE had to die!_ _AND YOU FAILED_ _He left though, didn't he?_ _IT WAS NOT THE WAY_ _Oh yeah? And what if I don't like your way?_ _DO AS WE SAY_ _Why should I?_ _WE CAN BRING THEM BACK_ _I don't believe you_ _WE TELL NO LIES_ _Fine, fine!_ _HEED OUR CALL, OUR WILL BE DONE_ Martyn is completely exasperated and confused. He got Grian out of the south, who died anyway to Joel, so why is The Shadow pissed? Also, The Shadow promised to bring back Mumbo, Timmy, and Impulse. What's up with that? 38:56 - The Shadow has absolutely had it with Grian, but the audience has no idea why. That's why he wanted Grian to die so badly. As to why he wasn't satisfied when Joel got the kill instead of Martyn, the answer is in Episode 9. 40:14 - Martyn finds out that Scott is the boogey, and yet is abstaining. The Shadow is not happy with this. 41:45 - The Shadow speaks: _Taken for fools we are never_ _Make red the sea and work together_ _Provide the means, fear not the blast_ _For if he chooses, the test is passed_ Martyn obliges and throws an end crystal dead center. If Scott strikes it, he passes the test. If not, he's on terrible standing. 43:07 - Some of the letters in those subtitles glitch out into their respective Galactic Alphabet characters. You don't need to know how to translate Galactic because the characters already translate to exactly the same letter in English, but the highlighted letters spell "TARGET ICHI", with Ichi (一) meaning "one" in Japanese. Scott decided not to blow it up while everyone was huddled, which means Scott is on the top of The Shadow's hitlist. Scott can be compared to the light, and the word "Grian" is Irish for "sun". That gives some reasoning as to why the Shadow wants to snuff both of them out, but this reasoning is actually false when it comes to Grian, which we'll see later. 44:10 - Grian blows up Martyn. A further blow to The Shadow. Which leads us to the finale.

I thought the various teams gave watching different perspectives it's own thing tbh, and the boogieman is a fun idea. There was also the temporary alliances towards the end which were pretty neat, watching different factions come together

The falling and dreaming of other SMPs is reminding me of something Pearl mentioned at the start of one of her Empires SMP episodes. She hadn't posted on Empires for a while, and she mentioned having been asleep for a long time. There were a handful of people in the comments joking that she had dreamed about Last Life and Hermitcraft. Makes me wonder if that fits in in all this, and how. Has Pearl been dreaming about dreams?

ooo And the reason the watcher's never talked in 3rd life is because by the time they could do anything about Grian being there, Grian was in dept to Scar, so they both found it a fitting punishment and slightly enjoyable to let Grian stay as he was now forced to follow another person. But when Grian was the last one standing they were infuriated so right off the bat in the next season they had a hate towards Grian.

41:38 "i can't believe the shadows are homophobic" well they did kinda ensure his husband died as well so.... /hj

Thank you for showing us behind the curtain a bit. Never heard of you before 3rd life. But i love what you do. Do more with Ren. You bounce off each other so well . Much love x

Martyn: Breathes Me frantically writing D&D notes: Mhm! Mhm! And what happened next??

When it comes to the boogeyman concept there are two opposites: Scott: HELL NAH Joel: HELL YEAH

If there's a third season, a target mechanic could be cool. It's like the boogeyman, but you have to kill a specific person. The punishment for failing could be the same.

my biggest flex: martyn read out my message in the chat :D

I feel like I should go watch Evo now to get some context on the watchers and listeners.

This was fantastic Martyn, I loved your series and think that the writing was excellent. I caught some of the hints dropped throughout the series, but I was stunned with how deep some of it went

The watchers and Listeners have some similar canon to the ancients in Stargate Sg1. The ancients were once a race of technologically advanced humans who, once they died, ascended to a higher plain of existence. They have God like powers but have decided not to interfere with others (because they've screwed up by helping before) Of course some of them go against that and help how they can "within the rules". Which is similar to Grian being a watcher but still participating. And why the others are pissed at him for interfering. There is also a group of ancients called Ori who pretend to be gods to get humans to worship them because they feed off of the worship. Very similar to the watchers as well. If you haven't watched the Stargate franchise I would highly recommend it.

1:06:32 I still like the idea of Grian being sent to a completely new reality as so called Hermitcraft 6 but waiting for the Hermitcraft 5ers to transport to their new reality

I like to imagine the moon as some sort of collective or council of Watchers. Also, I liked the conflict with the enchanter being tossed around. I feel like some sort of trophy or item more intentionally implemented and agreed upon that might produce some sort of prize could aid in the similar stirring of conflict with a little less mayhem, but idk. Maybe even a capsule that could store lives could be wild enough to be interesting? That's under any sort of assumption that there would be a third season, which I don't want to get my hopes too far up.

If they were communicating to you through the moon, maybe this has something to do with Hermitcraft’s Moon’s Big.

I First heard of you in Third Life, but the RP between you and Ren was gold. It's Inspiring the way you cram lore into your content this way, it's very much to my taste. Thought I am biased, because I am a bit of a lorehound. Bit like Ren.

Right now I'm wondering how things might have changed had Martyn won.

I think lore of grian in hermitcraft base of the rift makes this even better. Also obviosly lore will be hard in season 3 but would be cool to see smajor and grian kinda team up per say as they are both hated by the watchers.

Watching this after have watching double life is crazy because the watchers REALLY ramped it up this time, they changed it so that not only are you gonna be confused as you die, but your partner who was unwillingly attached to you also has to suffer. THATS INSANEEEEEE

I've been so confused as to what or who exactly the watchers are, and only discovered it through Watcher!Grian AU fanart and was really confused. I found this today not expecting any of what was in the video, and honestly I haven't followed you much at all in the past. However after having the lore explained to me I'm just in awe, it's so well done for what it is and I find it incredible! I think I'm going to go watch the Evolution SMP to try to understand some of that lore more, and I almost wonder how or if other SMPs or series are indirectly or somewhat directly connected to some sort of larger lore. I don't know why but after this my mind is dwelling the semi-lore or Yogscast's series and how they call back to previous modded series. But that's enough rambling from me for now, if anyone wants to talk about this in the comments I would LOVE that. As for you Martyn, you have gained a new and very loyal subscriber!

The whiplash I get from knowing that Martyn was open to the option of betraying Ren in 3L

See I like the "the viewers are the watchers" because from the perspective of the characters we are kinda cruel. You as the viewer want bad things to happen, conflicts to arrive BECAUSE that makes the drama and the story more interesting. When people turned red and the boogies came out and the bloodshed reached a fever pitch you the viewer were entertained by all of the shit going down

I'm surprised the bit from the end of season one was improv. I left a comment about how much it impacted me on the original video and I still stand by that. Guess its just a testament to how much words can effect someone, for good or ill. Both seasons have been really great from your perspective. Will happily watch more if there's another season. :) ps half the battle w storytelling is having a coherent narrative that people can engage with, the grammar and finesse can come after.

i feel like if Martin joined DSMP this would fit so well to Technos voices, that they are the watchers whispering in his ear for blood :o

if there is a third series, a cool idea might be for the boogeyman mechanic, giving the boogeyman a specific target. everyone (except scott) who was a boogeyman got a kill, and scott didn’t get one by choice (he said he wasn’t gonna bother aiming for a kill). so for example, if martyn were a boogeyman, his target might be etho, and he has to get a kill on etho to be cured. because this would make it harder, maybe just take them down by one life if they don’t manage a kill. similarly, implementing a buddy system (which was suggested by someone in the chat) to give everyone starting allies would be a good idea too, as it would help create more secure alliances (as the server selects the targets, it could be made so it can’t select teammates), and also prevent there from being 4+ teams, as it was a bit complicated. if they were playing with more lives and more people, you could also have the boogeyman curse pass between players. you might have to remove players name of who killed who in chat (so for example, instead of saying “etho was slain by inthelittlewood”, it could say “??? was killed by inthelittlewood”), as this would hide who is now the boogeyman, and players would have to deduce who it is by who it can’t be (so for example, in this scenario, martyn theoretically could be a boogeyman, and it he could’ve killed the boogeyman through self-defence. however, if they know martyn wasn’t the boogeyman, players would have to be very careful who they trust, and use process of elimination to work out who it was. for example, if impulse and scar were to get her at the time, they’d know it couldn’t be either of them) this wouldn’t work with such small amounts of lives, as it would end the series very quickly if that were the case, you’d also have to keep the number of boogeymen per session to one, as it would be passed around you’d have minimum 2 per session (in theory). it would lead to a lot of chaos and death, which i think it pretty much the motto of 3rd/last life :D

The fundamental randomness and chaos that is the nature of such a death game seems like it's difficult to fully carry out narrative ideas. But it's still insane how much you manage to pull off!

I have a question, it's a real stretch but, seeing the current state of the moon in Hermitcraft, are the watchers coming to the smp? xD

If there’s not a third season then I’ll cry every Tuesday. One of my favorite things to watch EVER. That’s including movies, tv shows, etc. I loved third/last life. Imagine in about 4-5 years we gonna come back to these and CRRRYYY😭

I had an idea for a role in last life that they could implement in the next season if they decide to make season 3. There would be one person at the start of the series labeled as "The Mystic". The Mystic is chosen before the lives are rolled. The Mystic will automatically start with 2 lives. Each session they have one free /givelife command. To keep it fair, the server will randomly choose 3 players that the Mystic can choose to give a life to. Their identity is revealed when they turn red. While their name is red, they do not receive a /givelife command. However, if they turn yellow or green, the next session they receive another /givelife command. Upon killing a player by PvP, the Mystic will roll to see if they receive a life for the kill or not (maybe a 25% chance so that it isn't too op). I just made this idea for fun while watching the series and I thought it would be a good way to make the series last longer. Thanks for an amazing season, it was so much fun. Edit: Maybe to make it fit with the lore the Mystic could instead protect a boogeyman from the effects of the curse. Basically, the Mystic would know the boogeyman/boogeymen of the session but is not allowed to tell anyone. There will be a command that allows them to place their "blessing" on one of the boogeymen.

I personally believe that the watchers are growing in size and power so they chose to take friends of those trapped to feed them as more conflic breaks out.

I think for season 3 it would be a good idea to get Grian in on your lorebuilding, if Last Life is a bit of a loop made by the Watchers and Grian is a Watcher. Would be nice to see more in-character stuff from him beyond just "moon big".

1:00:38 "we are on the tail end of it" the other 52 minutes might disagree

The fact that everyone's last episode on the season finale is called "The end" or "the final red life" makes me think we aren't getting a season 3.

Inb4 the memes of Grian always starting wars in HC become canon to the shadow lore-

Support for the watchers only being able to take the form of pumpkins: pumpkin tunnel, they were always watching over the funky bird guy

I freaking love this?!?! I need to go and watch Evo now I want more lore I would love to read this as a novel or a comic Please Pretty please

It's so cool to hear all the work that went into the Last Life lore. FathomsFinch's comment gave me an idea where if you killed someone, you gained the life you took from them. Maybe every hour or episode or something a random life gets taken away so there would still be stakes and over time people would get more desperate and make bigger risks? That way the series would last longer and maybe you could put more lore into it. I don't know anything about the production of this series so I'm not sure if we're even getting a season three but I figured I'd throw my ideas into the mix. Thoughts?

So the Tokyo Tower that you wanted to build at the beginning of the series was not a spontaneous idea, in fact planned before the series. When you brought up “tsuki” in the Google Translate, I noticed that it was Japanese. So could’ve the Tokyo Tower have played a role in the lore instead of it being scrapped due to the Southlands?

ok so here me out. For a version of last life when maybe like 8 - 12 seasons pass, each winner should be put into a way more chaotic version of last life. they have 25 or so lives total in the server and they are split among the players BUT after the end of each session they MUST swap their lives with another player so say Grian has 3 lives and Scott has 5, at the end of the session they swap so grian has 5 and Scott has 3 next session BUT if you don't swap with anyone you go lower in lives or straight to a red. It would make alliances and betrayals SO much worse because say Scott and Grian team up and Grian has 2 lives and Scott has 4 they swap because they are allies but at the end of the session Scott thinks Grian will swap his 4 lives back but he runs off to someone with 4 lives like BigB so Grian and BigB swap and Scott doesn't have his alliance or lives back so he swaps with someone else who has 2 lives like Mumbo. Maybe some other twists like the boogey system and the other random twists added through the seasons get swapped out per day and only the people being affected know what it is.

Coming to this from limited life (SPOILERS FOR LIMITED LIFE) but the vanquish them all and ally with none little lore profecy bit came true as Martyn won the season by betraying his ally and killing impulse

watching the whole vid and the only thing that i cant stop thinking abt is PUMPKIN TUNNEL.

Also Smajor probally is not on good tearms with the shadow any more after winng after he "mocked the shadow by not taking part in bogymen

Something I kinda came up with and thought was cool Background info- the watchers don't like Grian and Scott, Grian and Scott where the only ones who's soulmates they had previously teamed up with In the seires they won, Grian and Scar in 3rd life and Scott and Pearl in Last life, As punishment for the things they did that the watchers didn't like, in double life the paired up Grian and Scott with previous alliances that had worked really well for them and twisted their relationships to something they would hate. Grian had the secret soulmates thing with BigB and scar was distracted a lot. And Pearl went crazy after session one

Imagine just wanting to set up and play a light story-based Minecraft series with your gaming buddies and your friend turns your character into a malevolent demigod

How did he plan all that out and place the letters perfectly in the sentence, while maintaining the anxiety? Man this guy should be a poet.

Holy cow, the EVO smp was so long ago, I'm blown away with that reference

Of course Mumbo didn't even get into the meeting!

if/when we get a season 3 i deffo want more lore around lizzie.

Martin talks about the moon in Last Life, The moon is falling in Hermitcraft 8 = Watchers are Return

I have only watched the last episode of Grian's Evo series to understand this watcher thing, but I love the Grian watcher lore so much!

I loved your series, I loved the entire season, and your lore is incredible! I absolutely love the connection between Evo and 3rd/Last Life, but I've got a burning question. Does the Watchers using a pumpkin and subtitles and spooky voices have anything to do with Mythrodak's videos? I fully understand that there's probably no connection, but it's such a coincidence that I need to know!

2 Season 3 ideas: 1) If you kill a member of your own alliance during a boogieman session, you get a life. 2) When you kill using pvp instead of a trap, you gain a heart of health.

I was right it was because grian was a watcher! Woohoo!

37:31: No Anakin, don't trust the chancellor.

I would like to think evo smp and last/3rd life are connected by Lore. Grian a watcher was not supposed to compete but he did anyway and is doing something... also Grian announced season 3!!!!

Man this lore… it’s AMAZING!!

You should have betrayed ren in 3rd life and said "listen up strawberry names (becouse they are red) we are doing things my way now!"

I do think only one boogeyperson and only when there's no active reds would give that potential for a longer lived series.

Ive watched grian and scotts 3rd and last life I had no idea there was lore waht

Lol 2 things. 1 I didn’t know it had lore and 2 why does everything have to connect to the watchers

i had the idea for a longer lasting series with 3 different curses curse 1: the thief's curse this curse allows you to steal lives from other players, however if you do not steal another persons life you will lose a life (this incentives thieves to kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible) curse 2: the karma's curse other players can now take as many lives as they want from you by killing you, you will always receive 1 life when the curse ends, preventing total death (this incentives protecting yourself by making a strong base or a place you can go in order to hide, this also gives the chance for reds to become yellow once more) curse 3: a gift to those who created this person is given a random task... a sacrifice, this could be a specific player you have to hunt down and kill, a specific mob you have to hunt down and kill, or a specific block you have to find and burn upon completion you are given a life and if you fail to complete it you lose a life. (this makes players explore their surroundings more and forces a unique challenge on the occasion that it occurs) by the way the gift to those who created is super common at the start and slowly gets rarer every single session (starts at 98 and drops by 2% until there is only a 20% chance of it happening) the karma's curse starts off with 1% but increases to 40% 1% at a time same with the thief's curse on average 1/3 individuals will be cursed in some way for that session, meaning serial killers and people who hide from them will slowly become more common everyone will start off with 2 lives and will all have a gift to those who created curse

Jack o lantons don’t make sense for the represaition of the watchers because they make emit light and the wachers are dark

Wow! Thank you for all your effort you put into this for us.

Thanks for uploading this :D

At 1:33:30 they basically give the idea for Double Life.

Wait wait wait wait wait, is Pearl a watcher? Was she in the evo series? She might not be apart of this yes but in the lore for some reason it makes sense, it depends if she was in the evo series but in limited life she has the whole thing with "im watching you" and wasn't BigB in the evo series aswell? And not just that in last life Etho said "she's very observent, so when i realized she wasn't scared of me i knew she was the boogeyman" or something along those lines, when Etho suspects it was her from the start in the finale episode in last life and in double life she had a whole villian arc. And also to mention moon is in her name and in hermitcraft, season 8, the season she joined in, they had the storyline of the moon destroying the earth they were living on. And another thing to mention, Grian is IN that series, but the moon also sometimes didn't affect ONLY her (it could've been a glitch but we use this for lore explaning😂) and she even said herself "am i casuing this?" In one of her episodes, and don't we remember Ren i guess "putting out his own theory" that hermitcraft is a simulation?. But then X debunking that? (Which im glad he did because no offense to Ren and Doc but i don't like that storyline😂, but i love that the whole minecraft universe every SMP, every world that every minecraft youtuber or just any other person has created, mabye someone that Ren doesn't even know, he calls the whole thing "The Gigaverse" and i really want to push that more to make it canon in minecraft in general because i love it😆)

But like you still didn’t explain the love crystal! What were you going to use it for if it didn’t get blown up?

I just remembered, the whole: there is something out there that feeds on the chosen and it is an infinite loop reminds me of the storyline for Dissidia Final Fantasy.

Dang Martin is so talented!! I didn't know last life and 3rd life had lore this is amazing!

I'm so sad for character Martin.

1:36:33 “third series may never come” Now: fifth series about to end

Love this Lore i really hope that in a third season that can maby be expanded on?

SHADOW CLAN ??? LIKE WARRIOR CATS ?? /j

I love all the mystery will Sub! And now the end falling seen can make more sense. “Character Martin” is heading to his next torment.

Oh my gosh, I found another old lore stream! And again, I enjoyed the hecc out of it

Why did "anyone he Ahahhhhhhed with is gone." ruin me?

the phases of the moon are the eye blinking!! :D

1:30:30 Welp that's a good idea they should really do it /j

So..the watchers are basically hawkmoth.

Where was the lore in double life?

this mans brain is so big

Martyn is the equivalent of Morrowseer from WoF, but a little less evil.

you would've won if you made an aha pun in episode 9. i mean, its good luck

Martyn's a mad bastard. I love it.

Neat

I hope to god for a season 3

Watchers return in Hermitcraft 8

YEAH, the Watchers are canon again!

Was the A hunger the way it was said with Aha in it on purpose XD

i would love a 3rd season of last life! it was so good!