Minecraft vs $7000 Apple Mac Studio 

I swear Mumbo just buys himself a new PC every year to see if it can handle Minecraft at ridiculous scales

For anyone running Minecraft Java on an M1 Mac, it's a good idea to switch the jvm out for an arm native one (like Zulu). It ends up being about 20% faster because it doesn't need to run through rosetta. I'm going to assume Mumbo did that (along with adjusting the heap size), but thought I'd mention it for everyone else.

Please keep in mind that the number of cores you have doesn't really matter with Minecraft. It's a single-threaded game so it doesn't take advantage of the extra cores. The only time extra cores would help would be to offset the load from the operating system and other programs. Lots of RAM is good for loading large amounts of chunks or for having less breaks between garbage collection (where you may get significant frame drops every few seconds). Just in case you're wondering why you're not getting the larger frames that you had in mind

I’m not sure if Minecraft does this by default now but when I first got my m1 MacBook and stress tested it with Minecraft, I found it was running through Rosetta (Apple’s emulation layer for x86 programs) so I downloaded an arm version of Java and launched it in a special way using MultiMC to get it to run natively. That drastically improved the performance

Mumbo still has a waffle in his hair This is Season 8 Mumbo confirmed

That is a lovely shader!

Alright Mumbo, you gotta release these worlds now so we can standardize the tests!

I’ve played Minecraft on my Mac. It sounded like a jet engine.

If you haven’t already. Make sure you install sodium, lithium, starlight, and other performance mods for long-term. Starlight basically removes lighting update lag so those flying machines won’t be an issue. The fabulously optimised modpack is a great option that contains all of those mods and a fair few others that will definitely improve your performance hugely.

once upon a time Mumbo crashed the entire hermitcraft server with a perfect sphere of melon and ever since that day he's been in pursuit of the perfect computer to make sure that never happens again

I strongly recommend using the fabric mod alternatives to optifine as they work just as well and give you a huge performance boost, especially with how you did the flying machine test, a fabric mod called starlight could probably make the thing actually playable.

Me casually at 20 frames with something that's $150

Hey, computer geek here to answer some questions and explain some things! 1) Why below 300FPS? There are many, and I mean MANY aspects to this. One was mentioned in the video - it's rendering the game at 5K which is still not a standard resolution nowdays. To add to this stress, the game is coded in Java, and Java does not like Macs at all. In previous Intel models, Java was running pretty smoothly thanks to the optimized OS apple made, but due to their relatively "new" ARM architecture, Java is falling behind on optimization and many more factors. One of the possible reasons why the game is running slow is the GPU and RAM. The GPU is powerful, but not aimed at gaming. It may have larger rendering latency because it is designed for studio applications. And now for the dealbraker: the RAM. After 1.12.2, Minecraft's developers became less focused on something we programmers call "Garbage Collection", essentially it's a part of code that cleans up your RAM when the game is running to make sure the program doesn't fill it up. The more RAM Java has allocated to it, the less effective garbage collection is, which means the code has a bit of a mess in it's data. The sweet spot for Minecraft is somewhere around 12GB, if the game is launched with automatic allocation, it might allocate up to 32GB with these specs. 2) Can you solve the FPS issues? Yes, well - kind of. Many people use Optifine with their Minecraft, but that's not really the best choice for macs. Instead, you can run Sodium (something like Optifine's big brother) to help with rendering, garbage collection and overall performance. Sodium can increase frame rates in Minecraft up to 6x in some cases. Now, for some tips for Mumbo if he even sees this: A) Do not casually throw your Mac Studio into a backpack or a travel case. In case you have a 3D printer or happen to know someone who does, print something to cover all the air intakes on the Mac Studio before travelling with it really don't want to be cleaning it in case something gets in there - doing it yourself ruins warranty. B) Install Fabric and Sodium if you want better performance, I mentioned this in question 2 and I can't stress how much it might impact performance. C) Do not run other apps while playing a game on the Mac Studio. Some apps may throw themselves onto the same cores Minecraft is running at which may impact performance so try limiting the amount of apps in the background. (side-note: I'm not sure if this was fixed, I just remember it being an issue) This concludes my computer class, cheers!

Omg that damn boatem village 😂 I've got a pretty decent pc rig (alright its a bit more than decent) and the frame drop there is INSANE. I love exploring the area for inspiration and motivation but knowing some of hermits that lived there have similar rigs as me, no wonder they started moving elsewhere and said it was time for a new season haha.

Love the video. So glad you are posting it again. Happy new year to you and everyone else

Only thing I have to say is to make sure Minecraft is actually using all those cores and ram

“My desk was mean to catch fire” Mumbo - 2023

OnlyMumbo could be disappointed at his computer not crashing

Good to see you Mumbo! For me, the best part of your videos is how much FUN you have! Love the giggles! Makes me happy.

Seeing Mumbo miss Hermitcraft warms my heart.

0:49 The thing is, Minecraft is largely single-threaded, so its performance is determined more by the raw power one thread can provide rather than the number of threads the computer can support

"I've come into a world of many chickens" - Mumbo, 2023

Love the concept! Can't believe it survived the Sand world, and the chickens! Cool idea :)

9:04 Mumbo being upset that his desk didn’t catch fire for some reason just made me laugh a lot

The reason this computer survived the sand world when others failed before is that the render distance in this video seems to be a lot smaller than usual. Like half the screen was sometimes just the blank blue of unrendered chucks.

This video was highly entertaining. In other news I'm almost positive that the music used at the end is the same as one of the tracks used for a fiction podcast I listen to. Nice touch.

this is the first time ive herd mumbo say "WHEN WILL YOU DIE?" to an intimate object

7:03 “Someone should make a song out of this” Elybeatmaker has been summoned

the resilience and determination of that mac made me tear up a little

For anyone curious, the mac studio runs off of 48 cores , due to apple silicon just being multiple separate m1s, java can't run well when working with multiple cores, java also doesn't run off gpus. Also, sodium and stuff probably wouldn't help as much

Now the video rendering times!!! That will be so delightful to work with. Fun video. Thank you 😊

loving the slideshow presentations 😍😍

I never thought I would live the day where I heard someone saying: PLEASE CRASH!!! this was supposed to make you crash!!!! I nearly died laughing xD Thank you so much this video amused me so much!!!!

Happy New Year Mumbo.

Please tell me Mumbo got sponsored for this- the sponsor could practically pay for the computer!

doing "the thing" is so easy in bedrock, just kinda walk in one direction for a while, you'll see it eventually

You should try Lunar Client, since the native launcher isn't optimized for M1. It runs Sodium to optimize for Apple Silicon; I get 60fps in S8 Boatem Village with an M1 Pro, so with 4x the GPU cores and 2x the CPU cores, the Mac Studio should be insane. Edit: this is on 32 chunk render distance

Happy new year mumbo 🎉 wish you health and prosperity

Picked up the base model Studio with 32gb RAM couple months back, it’s by no means an RTX but the thing is a monster and plays shaded Minecraft easy. Sodium/Lithium/Phosphor/Starlight all make it even better. Definitely satisfied, and it eats 4K raw footage in Davinci for breakfast

I think Sodium + Lithium + Iris would enable you to get even more performance! Maybe try again with those and see how much further you can push it! Edit: And Starlight!

The real question is what happens if Mumbo repeated the perfect circle of pumpkins/melons from HC S4. Would this survive that? It did mess up the server after all until Xisuma managed to lava bucket the items out of existence...

Thanks for this video, the other day I make a video with my new Mac Studio, but the basic model using shaders. But thanks I want to test something similar what you did, and see if is to much difference between your top $7,000 Mac Studio vs my basic model Mac Studio.

I've been playing Java Edition on my M1 MacBook Air for over a year now after my PC died. Though it's nothing like the specs on the new Studio or a proper gaming PC, I'm impressed with the performance overall.

The accidental light surpressor is hilarious.

First time Mumbo mentioned Hermitcraft in a long time, as many other fans, I do miss it a lot, so I would really appreciate an update on what your plan is going forward, (regardless what you say!) Of course, you don’t owe us one, but we are here for you when you decide you’re ready! ❤️

Rofl, I'm relieved to have heard the last few lines of this video. Was concerned for your sanity a while there hahah

I've been a fan since hermitcraft season 4, and I'm sure a lot of people (including myself obviously) would want to hear your plans about the server. It's been a long time since the last hermitcraft video and I know that you've been up to a lot of stuff lately, but if you could make a video talking about your plan, it'd be awesome!

Try the massive TNT world again when 1.20 comes out. I remember X saying something about them decoupling the physics from the main thread so entities shouldn't cause as much lag. You can also increase the amount of RAM that is allocated to minecraft in the launcher

1:51 - "It feels rather lovely to be on a form of Hermitcraft again" I mean, you could rejoin season 9... Though I wouldn't blame you if at this point you felt it was better to just call it a loss and wait for season 10 to roll around again. Though it would be pretty funny if you turned back up on season 9 right at the very end of the season, just as they're wrapping up their final S9 episodes, doing their last outros, just pop up and be like "I'm back! What did I miss?"

I like how he becomes more like Wheatley from Portal every time a world fails to crash the computer

The one sheep when the world was entirely gone: i see no god up here.....other than me

8:22 Those slime creatures is just peacefully vibing there not knowing something bad is gonna happen to them.

“Mac isn’t meant for games!” Apple Mac studios on it’s way to survive the sand world:

Loving the video's Mumbo have so missed your content but your own mental health comes first. Keep on going and I truly hope one day to see you back among your youtube friends either on HC or some other insane project. Hugs x x x

Mumbo’s channel fees like a netflix documentary. But like a sitcom for all ages

To be honest, it would be nice to see you back on Hermitcraft. Grian misses you a lot, and I'm pretty sure he is about to lose his mind. xD

1:07 the grian waffe lol 😂

Mumbo you are awesome. Its so good to see you having fun again...... can you become a mischief maker in minecraft..... that would be epic

Your Mac Studio is only using 8GB of RAM or something around that. You have to go to advanced and in the last option change 8GB to whatever allocation you want to assign the game to use. Hope this helps.

Why do I feel so much joy watching people push computers to the breaking point.

This is a chaotically hilarious video and I love every second of it 😂😂😂😂

"...crashed and created art! " thanks for the MAC test!

Love your videos Mumbo!! So glad to see you back in my notifications! 🥳🥳

Glad that Mumbo is back, waiting for that hermitcraft content :D The chaos Mumbo brings is something I have missed

You might want to use a non default minecraft launcher to get the best out of it, the default minecraft launcher tends to have issues with mods on minecraft and other issues, i recommend using something like Prism Launcher, also be aware to look out for arm versions of apps. As a person who bought an M1 Pro Macbook Pro when it first released it was difficult, but be aware there is a little change in finding out how to best use the apps, it comes with sometimes using developer versions and betas rather than normal versions, but your joining at the right time, there is currently a lot of support for arm based apps. But yeah dont use the default minecraft launcher, anyone have a great time.

I played Minecraft on a mostly min-spec late 2009 imac for about 10 years. Upgrading to 12 gigs of ram was great, but getting a pc built to exactly the specs I wanted was better.

9:05 “My desk was meant to catch fire *aggressive impressed inhale of disappointment*”

3:40 Mumbo has achieved seconds per frame, twice!

“ we’ve got a few animals that are permanently dying **cackles** ” -mumbo jumbo

I've spent some time playing Minecraft with Create Mod on a top of the line Intel MacBook Pro (2019 model with Core i9) and the system generally handled it fine except for the fact that the GPU consumed power faster than the wall charger could supply it, so after about 2 hours it would drain the battery and shut down even with the system plugged in. I don't think I ever ran into that problem on vanilla Minecraft though, and now just stick to my desktop PC.

To break the game, try doing more layers of sand, crank up simulation and render distance (simulation distance might not exist on that version.), and put it higher up on the y axis so it doesn't get destroyed immediately.

I feel like a lot of people think of performance on games as a linear graph as you increase your PC specs, but it's closer to a bell curve, especially with games like minecraft. The problem with using professional grade processors and GPUs for gaming is that a lot of games don't scale well across so many cores, it's to a point where it becomes useless to upgrade your PC for purely gaming performance. This is why things like the Mac Studio don't get thousands of FPS on minecraft, even though on paper it seems like it would. That being said, that machine is probably a beast for editing and/or film making If you wanted an optimized setup for playing minecraft (you have a problem if you want to build a pc just to play minecraft) I've found that 4 and 6 core CPUs and most mid range and older GPUs work very well for minecraft, even older architectures like polaris for AMD can give very impressive frames. Using linux can also provide a significant frame boost over windows and mods like sodium and lithium can optimize minecraft and boost performance across a wide range of systems

Can you do a video explaining update suppression and what it’s used for, I’ve been trying to understand the mechanics of it but can’t figure it out

Everyone talking about how to optimize a mac for minecraft but no one's talking about how MUMBO IS BACK BABY!!!!!!!!!!

I look for your videos all the time. Welcome back. Happy New Year. Hope it's a great one for you. Stay healthy and sane.

I love how the tnt just kept interrupting him just as he finished his sentence

Alternate title: British man sad cuz computer won’t die

As someone who played MC on Gen 1 Macbook Pros and G5 desktops, and then on later tried on 2012+ Macbook Pros, I'm actually impressed lol

Alright kids, before you start figuring out how to con your parents into dropping $7,000 on your next "gaming" PC, be aware that Minecraft is a CPU intensive game but basically hates multi-core CPUs. A 20-core with hyperthreading CPU is great for everything _but_ Minecraft. My $200 poverty PC can run Java Minecraft at ~80fps *with shaders.* That's with a decade old 2.53GHz Xeon quad-core, 16GB RAM and a 4GB GTX 1050Ti. The biggest numbers possible don't make for a great gaming rig.

Thank you for testing out the Mac. Now gives a great pov for if I need a good device to travel around with.

6:22 Is a line that shouldn't have gotten a kick out me, but did. I don't if it was the delivery, context, or me just being a very weird person, but I chuckled.

Oh boy. Those are some tricky standards to meet. I hope the mac can handle Minecraft! Excited to see whatever films you might make with it.

Mumbo u might want to check ur settings because I would get 700 fps on my M1 MacBook Air which was $1000 compared to your $7000. I have all my settings at default and I think there was like one thing I did to make it better. It might have been lunar client. Not sure…

Mumbo~2023: '"The chickens were worse than this" Joel: I have taught you well fella

Hey mumbo love the video, when are you going to make a hermitcraft video again?

That is a lovely shader! It makes all the colors vibrant in a good way, and gives depth to the water!

7:55 Crafting diamond leggings be like:

You (and grian) my favorite RU-vidr(s) and I love when you (and grian) post :)

Hi Computer Engineer in training here. Normally I swear by windows, but Mumbo, you made good choice for your needs. I support.

Imagine having fps when playing minecraft. When I play I have spf instead

7:04 As a producer, *challenge accepted.*

I play macbook pro with a touchpad and have done for 8 years, ive grown use to key movements etc stuff like that and im extremely good at minecraft building and some what pvp so i would say yes except for the average frame rate i get is between 40-60 fps

Mumbo talking about his old computer as if it's not 1000x better than my PC.

‘This thing has crashed and created art? That’s kind of beautiful! And the world has fixed itself!’ - Mumbo Jumbo after the moon fell on an art gallery

This video proves once again that hardware will not solve our slow software problem. We must optimize the software, even in 2023! Developers unite!

This is the best review video I have ever seen this is fantastic

"My old pc belings to nasa" BEST MUMBO QUOTE EVER

I would love to see how to plan to travel with this new setup, I have a small form factor PC myself and I'm always curious to see what people come up with in terms of protection and how everything is stored inside a carry case.

ALT Title: Mumbo lighly regrets the purchase for 10 minutes.

Mumbo dawg u gotta get back on hermitcraft! I know It’s late in the season but u could still make som cool content and I’d love to see u back on there, either way glad ur makin videos again