Matt, you nailed it. Great summary of what several of us have been trying to get across for a long time. This won’t eliminate issues, but it can help reduce issues and prolong limb life. Take a bow sir, take a bow 🙇♂️
Just purchased a Boss 405 it came with 3 20" 370gr.arrows it's my first crossbow I've been shooting a compound bow since the late 80s it seems kind of violent when I shot it with the 370gr. I've been watching videos like the one you posted makes very good sense your content so I went and purchased some 400gr.arows hope it calms the bow down a little bit.
I was getting ready to buy my first crossbow, and while researching I learned the dirty little secret of limbs eventually breaking. I've read some limbs on $2000 crossbows broke within less than a year. This turned me off to buying a crossbow. I know there are stronge materials that can be used besides fiberglass, like carbyne and graphene. This is a fixable problem but it's not getting fixed
Did anyone notice that when they added weight and foc to bolts/arrows that quiets the x-bow ,think of it as that your dry firing any bow, compound bow 70# draw with 400gr pretty quiet, now x bow draw weights are normally 2-3 times draw weight of vertical bows with same weight projectiles.by raising my bolt weight it quieted my bow more than limbsaver silencing kit.
I agree with you I’m not a speed person I’m more on the penetration and kinetic energy also I rather take down the game and save my crossbow limbs from breaking by shooting a heavier bolt I shoot a 535 grain bolt
@@draggindeeroutdoorsUpdate: I bought a Wicked Ridge Blackhawk 360. Owners manual says to use minimum weight of 450 grains. But all I have are 400 grain arrows (broad head weight included).
Bought a Mission Sub-1 Lite. They have specific bolts and nocks they say to use. Bolt and 100 grain tip they only weigh 350 grains. I want to shoot Victory bolts and they make Mission bolts. I want to shoot heavier bolts also. What is your thoughts?
How far do we need to get under that redline, though? Or another way to put it is why is the manufacturer encouraging me to shoot light arrows, then? My Excalibur micro 340’s redline is 350 g arrow, and guess what it came with. Yep, 350 grain little quills with the 100 g field tips. But they recommend shooting 150 grain broadheads instead. So is a 400 g arrow heavy enough? Another question is whether Excalibur crossbows are sort of like fine fly rods? They’re so expensive because the manufacturer has to have limb (or rod tip) replacement costs in the price since their lifetime warranty is what sells their product? I understand the reasons for heavy arrows. I shoot almost 600 grains in my bowtech compound. But compared to my Excalibur, that bow is dead quiet on the shot. I can up my arrow weight for my crossbow from 400 to 500 and what’s the result? It’s still gonna be plenty loud enough to startle a deer. I’m going to lose a LOT of velocity. That’s for sure, so what’s the upside if I’m only going after southern white tails and shooting sharp, fixed broadheads? I’m just playing devils advocate, not trying to argue. Just thinking out loud, because I know that no matter how heavy an arrow I shoot off my Excalibur, it’s still gonna be LOUD. So if 400 g Excalibur Quill with a 150 g cutthroat broadhead up front flies true and buried in a Block target to the fletching why do I need anything heavier?
Hey Dave! There is a lot to unpack here. IMO, you should shoot the heaviest arrow possible that still maintains perfect flight. Yes, there is speed loss, but that is the only downside. The upside is less noise/vibration, greater momentum, often better flight with a heavier/higher FOC setup. Crossbow companies want to sell you speed, hence the min arrow weight supplied with your crossbow. Shoot me an email if you want to chat more! draggindeer@gmail.com
I'm just getting into crossbow hunting was looking into killer instinct ripper 425 and was planning on just using factory bolts but idk what to do anymore
I bought a Ripper 425 last year and shot factory bolts Thru last season with no problems. I got it out this year to sight in and had limb failure. So I am going to up my total bolt/ broadhead set up to around 450-500 gr.
Matt, when you add weight to your crossbow bolt, is there a formula to calculate the reduction in speed? I am switching to a scope with a speed ring, and am trying to figure out what speed to dial in on the scope in some scientific way.
Great question, Dean. There may be a calculator out there, I don't have one though. I do have a chronograph, and I can tell you the speed on the speedring may be off a little compared to the actual speed of the bow. Which is fine, they key is getting the reticle dialed in to your particular bow/bolt setup.
I have a centerpoint amped 415 and have started shooting the victory VAP voodoo bolts this year, and i just noticed a split on one of my limbs. I had this happen before with a weak bolt. the grain weight of the bolt is 420 grain w/ 100 grain field point, being 20 grains over factory recommendations. Would it by chance be a design difference with this voodoo bolt that may of had caused the split?
I'd personally go more than 20 grains over minimum bolt weight, especially with a bow that fast. I'd recommend something 500 grains or more for your bow. But...could also have been just a bad limb.
Hello I just got a new KI swat x1 and got 435gn arrows with 150gn sevr broadhead will that be good, bow shop says they don't recommend that, what's your opinion
My standard answer is...I recommend the heaviest setup that still shoots perfect (or near perfect) bullet holes through paper. Least for me, this usually ends up somewhere between 500-550 grains.
my 1yr old killer instinct cracked alib last week-mfg sites fone # isnt working-i emailed twice last week w no answer-took it to the bow shop fri and left-i doubt theyll fix it for free-first week last year after i bought i decided after researching to go to 325gr bolt w 125gr broadheads-it shot way smoother and i felt i had found the sweet spot but i guess not-ive shot less than 75 times-bs-i live close to bear factory and thats the bows i have always shot but shop didnt carry-big mistake
