Minivans Go To War: The All-New 2021 Toyota Sienna Takes On The New Honda Odyssey! 

Great review, thank you.

I just wish the Sedona also came with the AWD feature too. That would make it the perfect minivan in my opinion. I think its the sexier, more sporty looking minivan of all.

Exactly. My mom has a 2005 sienna. To this day it’s a very comfortable ride with lots of features, it can haul 7 people easily, and is very reliable. Minivans are awesome.

Interesting point of view. I personally think my Suburban is the perfect car, but thats for my life. Everyone is different. We tow a camper and boat regularly, so it makes sense for us. Which body styles did you have?

Well said, i was thinking about buying a tahoe to haul the mustang to the track once in a while but i think i just rather buy a truck since the oddyssey i have can be beat in comfort

The new Tahoes and Yukons have better and bigger interiors than any minivan

I would love to see how it does carrying 6 people, luggage going up a long steep hill. And then add 3500lbs to it

@@hansolo6827 cvt explosion

The only problem is that there are now rumors about Sienna Prime Plug-in Hybrid! For 50 miles, it'll run pure on Electricity! 🔌⚡💡

The Sienna is just so UGLY though

@@jackpez Sienna has ECVT. CVT is belt (prone to slippage). ECVT is more like a regular auto (planetary gears). like comparing email/mail - big difference

Yes. I've had the same generation for four years, and it never fails to amaze, when the gas is hit hard.

How is the ride?

That was probably a mistake. I hear the XSE rides much worse than the other trips.

It’s not manual shift. It has an automatic transmission

@@taylorwatson7932 that's not what i meant... I was talking the way you put the car into drive. In the new Sienna, you grab the shifter and move it. In the Honda Odyssey you push a button that says D on it. In the Chrysler Pacifica, you turn a dial to put the car in drive.

@@taylorwatson7932 😆

Buttons and dials are just more electrical components that can break. One electrical issue and you can't put your car in drive.

@@DK-bm5rg if you are really worried about electronics failure that can hinder the car drivability, then you should be more worried about Sienna’s ECVT “transmission” vs Odyssey’s conventional 10speed AT that had been used successfully in the Honda Pilot. The buttons are a bit confusing at first. But after driving it for a couple times, you will get used to it. Same for the dial. I hate it on my rental SUV, at first, but got used to it very quickly. This should not be a deal breaker.

Also, how do they run after family and vacation gear are loaded up and then head for the mountains, like Skyline Drive in the Virginia Blue Ridge mountains ???

O snap kirk is in da houuse!

All the 0-60 times I’ve seen for both vans were well under 9 seconds (more like 7) so I’m not sure why their times were so slow.

Altitude

@@kevinclark1482 Elevation

Maybe not in Sports mode?

Elevation and altitude really kill n/a cars. If they were in an area with less elevation you could probably expect times around 7-7.5 sec 0-60 wise. But honestly still impressive never the less for a mini van 🤣

Where do you live?

Vancouver, BC Canada

@@harleyreyes7341 you pay 4 times what I pay and we have 50 cent/gal tax in PA.

Just got my sienna this October. 👍

Hey, why not. It happens in the real world. lol

Or the Supra gained weight.

@@zeeawan917 The Supra coming back to her 10 year highschool reunion. 😄

Need a prime version

that was the plan but the pacifica broke down 😂😂

@@connosps4656 OK!!!!! That was brilliant. 😂😂😂😂😂

The upcoming Kia Sedona looks interesting

@@connosps4656 Wasn't funny at all.

@@La-yt1wr It was to me.....because it's TRUE.

What you need are winter tires

Awd is more of an assist with acceleration, handling and braking is also important in snow and ice. Which makes fwd with snow tires better than just awd with all seasons.

@@paulsalvo235 yes everyone gets snow tires where I am but being in a AWD vehicle will benefit you over a FWD

@@dilpreets7 AWD doesn’t help at all in handling and braking, only acceleration, FWD with snow tires are way better

@@aimxdy8680 shut up! You don't know what you're talking about. The handling difference is day and night between FWD and AWD. You would know if you've driven a AWD through a snow storm

They not telling you this. If u get the 8 passengers trim, there is no AWD option for sienna. Odyssey is 8 passengers for all trim.

@@sprewellwell8736 I do like the Odyssey bench seat which is the captain seats with the additional center seat that can be removed.

If that's all it matters, I agree with you 100%. I Own an Acura RDX With the same 3.5 L Engine and I love it. But there's no denying everything else on that Sienna looks way better than in the Odyssey.

But having a DI system instead of MPI, how long will it trouble free until you have clogged intake?

@@antimon40 Doesn’t it have both?

It’s actually the most dated compared to its rivals

@@dreamteam182 If it works flawlessly, why change it? Lol. Don't go messing with a great design.

The spare tire is an option. It resides in the left corner of the hatch when optioned.

Same here. I've had 3 Odys, just bought a 17 EX-L. You can't beat the cargo space. The money I'd save on gas with the Sienna would be replaced with the inconvenience of dragging my trailer around all the time. That's not worth it to me.

That is what’s holding the sienna back. Dumb move for not being able to remove the 2nd row seats.

The third seat in the Odyssey folded flatter into the floor also. The Sienna had some bumps and bulges.

@@jay_321 The Odyssey's have gotten bumpier and bumpier over the years. The Gen 2 was almost completely flat, the Gen 3 has bumps caused by the rear bench hinges. The Gen 4 literally has a ledge and the Gen 5, besides the ledge with the rear bench stowed also has huge bumps when the 2nd row is removed. Start the video at 18:15 and continue until 18:45. You can see the drop off in the middle and the huge bumps left by the base of the middle rows.

Same

I would only be sad to see so much money wasted on a bad starting vehicle

Look up 1,000hp minivan. It is possible and the trail has been cleared for you to follow.

There is an actually odyssey sleeper in California my dad would swap his 2016 odyssey to an Manual but he doesn’t have crazy money to start it

Near where I work, someone with a modded exhaust MDX is always flying down the street. That same V6 sounds SOOOOOOO good.

Highway only and driving under 65 lol

They last about 10 years, though I have driven hybrids with batteries as old as 14 years. Climate and other factors can effect the lifetime.

If maintained properly they can last for up to 20 years and 300k miles

Sienna TRD Pro

@@rubyl3284 lol

Game over. I think they would but having 2 many issues with supply chain

@@occckid123 I think the same just look at the Rav4 Prime,But yeah it would game over for the odyssey

It was. Today is 60 degrees. lol, welcome to Colorado.

One off's happen. I'm sure we could find one or two Toyota's (Mercedes, Jaguar, RAM truck, Harley Davidson, etc.) with early life failures. Sh*t happens.

@@derbydad5086 yeap, I know, I used to work for BMW and Chevy... I was very used to it...

I was slower using the paddle shifters - by a large margin. Yes, we had it in sport mode

@Eat Jat I would think the sienna and Sedona w the non removable 2nd rows will have less cargo space. Ultimately, I want the quietest minivan for long highway road trips. My 2014 odyssey was extremely loud and as a result, was tiring after long drives. My 2020 Pacifica is much quieter, but could still be quieter. The 2021 refreshed Pacifica is supposed to be even quieter.

@@Wasabi9111 I would love to see you driving that Pacifica in a few years... You will be spending thousands on repairs in a few years.

@@Mark-jd1jx I’m on my 2nd leased Pacifica. My 2017 had a lot of recalls the first yr. but I think it’s bc it was a first model year. It was super annoying to bring it to the dealership to get the recalls fixed. So far my leased 2020 has been perfect. I bet the new sienna will be super reliable. However, I’m not so sure about the odyssey. My 2014 odyssey wasn’t perfect. Surprisingly, I prefer the Pacifica over the odyssey as I’m usually a Toyota/Honda fan.

@@Wasabi9111 understandable, i personally not a fan of the pacifica and the 2020 is to new of a car to judge if its reliable we will see in a few yrs we all have cars thst we like and don't. I have a 2010 sienna runs like a dream with 244k miles on the clock. Honda is known to have trans issues.

Yeah but you talking about 50k sienna platinum vs odyssey elx 42k big difference

I think it was just the camera because when you start the van it doesn't start the engine usually and it says ev on the dash so no engine is on?

Hybrid

Its a SIENNA SI-EN-NA you cant spell shit so go back to pre school, second and lastly, you dont know shit....

I agree.

I disagree, that hybrid engine fuel economy is the main reason to get the Toyota.

Hybrid system makes lots of torque. I wouldn't worry. And their CVT is great.

The Sienna has a 3,500 pound tow rating. Unlike the FWD Honda, AWD Sienna models have power going to the rear wheels which is EXACTLY what you want on a boat ramp.

The eCVT in the Sienna isn't even considered a transmission.

You can't fit a sheet of plywood in a modern minivan anyway. My 99 Tahoe can't even do it. So guess what? I hook my trailer up.

@@andybub45 Trailers rule!!

@@rightlanehog3151 I think I could have fit a few 8x4 on my 2011 odyssey with the middle seats taken out, but because I knew I'd be cutting the 8x4 anyways, I had lowe's cut them to 4x4, and they fit in fine without middle seat removal.

@@fernandobarrios2596 Nobody loves to take a FULL sheet of plywood home from the lumber yard more than I do. As a kid in the 70s, I remember when our family station wagons carried full sheets with the second row folded down. Having said all that, Toyota made a decision on improved safety components over removable back seats which some people will not support. When it comes to moving plywood, lumber etc, I am much more concerned about the 3 ton, Crew Cab pickups with the 5 foot beds. My Pontiac Vibe can carry 8 foot 2X4s inside as well as 8 foot Plywood cut length wise. When I see a huge pickup with ordinary 2X4s dangling out the back of the bed I laugh scornfully.

@@andybub45 Sure you can. All Odyssey's going back to the Gen 2 and right up to the current years can hold full 4 x 8 sheet goods. It's tight and they need to be angled in and then laid flat, but they fit. You lose that in the new Sienna's because you can't remove the center seats. The main reason I still drive an Odyssey (just bought my 3rd, a 2017 EX-L) is because of the hauling space. I don't even have kids living at home anymore, but I do a lot of woodworking and home renovation projects. I can carry more in my Ody than my neighbor can in his...wait for it...Tahoe. It loads easier too, being lower, flatter and more accessible via the dual sliding doors and full tailgate. I can slide 10'+ boards right up the middle of the van. 12' flexible stock (e.g. vinyl trim) can fit diagonally. P.S. I have a trailer too. ;-)

Vtec.....kick...in....yoooo