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just a small nitpick and constructive criticism: love the reaction but the first 0:00 to ~1:30 of this intro, i tihnk the editor overdid it a bit with the "Echo". It acted less as a "hype reverb" vs hype mic boom, and it sounded like a disconnect in the audio/video sync accident vs actual intended voice modification. That is all, very small nitpick, it didnt ruin the reaction, and i hope whoever was working on this doesn't get too much noise from it (no pun intended), but i figured i'd share.
During one of the Mission Impossible films when Ethan needed to complete a task underwater, there was a lot of training. By the shoot Tom was holding his breath for 6+ minutes.
Movie doesn’t get the credit it deserves for the effect it had on science fiction storytelling. All that Touching Nothing Hologram sht you’ve seen everywhere for 20+ years. Thank Stevie Spielberg
I always felt that Sean was an actual real kidnapping before Precrime existed. This drove Cruise to be the best with precrime at all costs, his exwife said he was obsessed, in the hopes of finding Sean before he was murdered. Sydow knew this and used it to bend Cruise to his will.
I think the son was just a random crime that is unconnected, I think that’s what makes it more terrifying, there is no motive that we as the viewer know,
I've never seen anyone invent such an elaborate extra layer to Burgess's crimes haha. I understand not wanting it to just being some random act, but it is. Storytelling wise though there's no WAY this movie lays out so much of the scheme of what Burgess did to Agatha's mother and then just doesn't even have anyone mention a suspicion that he was responsible for the son, if that's "what actually happened". Also, in-universe I'm sure John was a really good cop before precrime, but it would be crazy for Burgess to want him SO MUCH he'd kill for it, when John's role in the system hadn't even been set up or tested yet.
This is based on a Philip K. Dick story. Other movies based on his stories are: Blade Runner, Total Recall, The Adjustment Bureau, Paycheck, and A Scanner Darkly.
To be honest I was not sure this was based on anything, it's so well put together as a single package. I was a little offended on behalf of sci fi screenwriters when he said "it's probably based on a book" without knowing haha, like what you don't there's any good original scripts in sci fi? I get that feeling in a movie that has sort of arbitrary weird feeling elements because it makes you think there's backstory that got left out, but Minority Report is tight tight tight.
@khefka probably. Also doesn't help that he does a lot of the same style of film (action/spy/military) so the characters aren't going to be THAT different from each other. Still, love his films anyway
@@SiriuslyBlack7Phone Booth was very interesting! It told like a play, and I think I’m here for it. Plus, Keifer’s voice is so recognizable, it was a great role for him.
Spielberg and/or the writer has Colin’s character read Burgess’s whole conspiracy instead of the tired trope of the villain monologuing - that’s some witty subversion
@@Divamarja_CA Okay now I'm imagining Phone Booth as a play, and they could do a thing where they just have extras walking by at the rear of the stage at first and sometimes one of them just gets shot :) Cool concept!
I don't know a single person who didn't think it was really good, but he's right it isn't really talked about that much. I guess just because it was its own thing, no franchise, no ballooning superhero film industry that emerged out of it. And it's hard to do movies based on "they're psychic!" really well, and a lot of the backstory choices here are very specific. I have seen people reference it the most in terms of imagining how computer interfaces would go though.
No, Burgess did NOT hire someone to kidnap John's son. That was something that happened before precrime. You didn't pay enough attention, and you were overthinking it. He hired Crow to *pretend* that *he* was the one who took John's son, to get John to commit murder. But no, it was someone else entirely who kidnapped John's son... and got away with it, because precrime didn't exist back then.
Yes, the lengths Van Sydow went through to keep precrime successful were evil, but Tom Cruise's supporting the cause was always genuine, no foul play to sucker him into precrime, but a horrible exploitation of his past in order to frame him when he got too close to the truth about the Ann Lively murder
Tom Cruise’s story arc on struggling with loss was brilliant. The pre-cogs were named after mystery writers. Dashiell Hammett, creator of Sherlock Holmes stories Arthur C Doyle and the Queen of Crime, Agatha Christie. I knew Agatha was gonna grab Tom Cruise from the pool but Spielberg still managed to scare me!! Love how they used Schubert’s music when Tom was browsing the images early in the movie.
Tom Cruise Sci-fi movie was never dissapointed me. Minority Report (2002) War Of The Worlds (2005) Oblivion (2013) Edge of Tomorrow (2014) They all so good and very rewatchable
Does anyone else remember The Minority Report tv series? It only lasted 1 Season, but it followed the lives of the 3 Precogs after the events of the film. I liked it & still wish it had lasted longer.
I remember. They focused on one, teamed up with a regular cop, and he just wanted to keep helping people, but not be stuck in a tank forever doing it. I recall that in one episode, they did go to the island that Agatha (and the other twin?) lived on. It was one of those fun sci-fi premises that only lasted one season because it was on broadcast TV.
I remember it being kind of terrible. They pretty wildly changed Wally's character from the sad sack creep he is in the movie into a tech genius billionaire.
Samantha Morton (Agatha) also ‘grew up’ to be Mary Lou - Credence’s adoptive mother - in Fantastic Beasts. Completely different character and almost unrecognisable from this one. She’s such a versatile actor. I think this is my favourite of Tom Cruises movie. It’s a tough call, he has some really great movies.
@@believeume122What about the people that think about it but don't? They got arrested and punished for something that was never going to happen, a literal thought crime.
Not sure what the confusion was. Anderton had a traumatic history of his son being kidnapped which was his primary motivation to be zealous about Precrime and that made him a massive asset for Lamar. Then, when he had served his purpose, and had started asking too many uncomfortable questions about Anne Lively, Lamar used John's trauma to fabricate a scenario which he knew would likely induce Anderton to commit murder, which the Precogs would pick up and highlight, effectively framing him for the future murder of his son's "kidnapper". Lamar and Leo Crow didn't have anything to do with the actual kidnapping, they were using his trauma to induce the murder. Its actually genius writing to weave the fallibility of the precrime concept into the framing of "pre-murder", since apparently the precogs pick up intent of murder, but may be inaccurate if the person decides not to go ahead with it (the minority report).
Because Aaron has so much movie knowledge too, Andrew doesn't have to say more than a couple words for him to get the movie references he makes. I find that awesome.
Philip K. Dick wrote this book, Blade Runner, The Man In The High Castle, Total Recall, Screamers, and The Adjustment Bureau. The actress who played Agatha (Samantha Morton) was Alpha in TWD.
There is also the theory that after tom went into the halo the rest was a dream and everything after he is in prison never happened it was his dreams. So precrime still exist and has spread all over now.
@@Real_LiamOBryanthe organ player that is in charge of the ones with the halos says “your life flashes before your eyes” and “all your dreams come true.”
@@DeeSee25 True, but that is only evidence that it's consistent rather than true, at least as far as I can tell. Is there any evidence that it's actually the case in universe?
50:57 I love this moment so much. It’s so unsettling and unnerving. It rips you away from the soft sadness that you were feeling just a second before. It’s so well done.
Spielberg pioneered that “top-down” tracking shot (that almost looks/feels like a video game) in the scene with the camera slowly following the spider bots while they searched the building. Chad Stahelski perfected it in John Wick 4 with the top-down tracking shot of John in that apartment building taking dudes out with an incendiary shotgun like a video game😄👀🙊 It all began with Minority Report🔥💪🏽🙌🏼
I'm glad you guys liked this movie. I think it's aged incredibly well over time. As far as if the people would want a system in place in which murders could be psychically predicted and stopped... I mean, as the audience, we can see the "behind the scenes" of how the system works in the movie, so we know there is at least some legitimacy to the process (putting aside the minority reports, and the corruption). But in the real world, if the police suddenly announced that they'd decided to arrest people who hadn't even committed a crime, and were putting them away forever, but it's okay because "trust us, bro, we're cops." There is NO WAY I would be in favor of that.
Great job, guys. Much enjoyed the watchalong. You guys were quick on the uptakes. 👍 Samantha Morton also played the villain Alpha of the Whisperers on seasons 9 and 10 of TWD.
Id never noticed the similarities to Star Wars AOTC with the chase scene+music and then the fight/chase through the car assembly line like the chase through the droid assembly line in AOTC
7:42 This was based on the story written by Phillip K. Dick, who also wrote the stories that inspired Bladerunner, Total Recall, Next, Paycheck, and more.
Samantha Morton, a VERY seasoned English actress, has been nominated for an Oscar TWICE (2000 and 2004), check her out in 'Control', 'The Whale', 'Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find them', 'Cosmopolis', 'The Messenger', 'In America'.
I agree about the visual design, it's awesome. The sets are imaginative and Spielberg made it all high contrast and grainy to feel like film- noir. The scenes in the shopping mall and "Cyberparlor" really stand out in my mind where you see rich reds in the color pallette whereas most of the movie is grey and blue-ish.
3:00 Fun fact: "pre-crime" departments already exist in some cities, inspired by this film. Crime occurrence patterns are detected by analyzing local crime data. This guides patrol routes to capture crime as they are happening. Capture an xx seller on an unlicensed xx carrier before they commit a greater crime. However, not even close to the extent of the film.
So glad y’all reacted to this☺️ I remember when this came out in theaters - it was so packed my fam couldn’t sit together and my cousin and I sat on the steps because we couldn’t find seats together (people made room for us eventually). I enjoyed every second of that experience; fave T.C. film.
The precog, Agatha, is Samantha Morton, who's been in a ton of stuff career-wise but also just starred in the Walking Dead final season, where she totally rocked it naked and bald and terrifying.
3:20 Andrew: “I wish we had this now.” Not the pre-crime technology, but the hand and eye tracking are available on the Apple Vision Pro. Anyone who owns one can be Tom Cruise, including watching spatial memories as seen at 9:20.
Can’t really convey how fascinating the that whole gesture UI was back in 2002. It was a genuinely _different_ take on a computer UI - still cinematic, sure, but not a too-sci-fi hologram or whatever films usually do. This seemed like something that might actually work, and indeed the designers did a lot of work to make it realistic if still imaginative and juuust futuristic enough. When the first modern’ish touchscreens made a big splash a few years later, they were described as “Minority Report’esque” - it was just the only reference people had for all this slide, swipe, pinch gesture stuff, because it hadn’t been seen in real life before
There have only been a handful of Spielberg films that John Williams didn't score: Duel, The Color Purple, Bridge Of Spies, Ready Player One and West Side Story. John Williams actually came out of retirement to score the latest Indiana Jones movie. But that was for director, James Mangold.
I remember watching this in theaters and a core memory of this movie is whispering about the touch screens and how cool that would be. Me and my dad really liked this movie (despite his dislike of Tom Cruise) any time it was on TV we would watch. Due to our love of rewatching movies my mom hates this movie. But it's a good one.
They did a clear "villain cut" to Burgess while you guys were still convincing yourselves you were right about your suspicion haha. At that point on it's just watching poor Colin Farrell figure it out. I liked the in-universe twist that everyone is so used to precrime now that they assume they couldn't be murdered - only explanation for Farrell spilling all the beans when he knows the culprit has to be someone "high up". And great evil tension building when Burgess reminds him what it means for Agatha to be absent.
1. Burgess contacts Crow to make the deal 2. Somehow someone points John to Crow 3. Precogs predict John will kill Crow 4. John sees prediction and goes on the run
I adore this film - my favorite Sci-Fi movie of the 2000's. Tom Cruise and Samantha Morton showed a fantastic acting. Despite that some scenes were definitely inspired by other films (L.A. Confidential, Robocop, Demolition Man, Blade Runner, The Fifth Element)
I didn't know that John Williams scored this movie (I mean, of course he did since this is steven spielberg lol), but the scene were he is using that sonic gun in that warehouse is when I IMMEDIATELY knew he did haha
Aside from the Radio Shack references their depiction of the 2050s is still fairly on track. I mean aren’t they testing out specific highway lanes for automated self driving trucks?
One thing to notice is that the police have non-lethal weapons, like that puking stick and the force-gun. That's because they know the person won't kill them.
I remember when this came out that Spielberg talked about how he met with experts and scientists about where technology could be in the future realistically. So most of the tech in the movie was stuff that ppl were/are still working on besides the whole precogs plot
John's son went missing before Precrime came into existence. Lamar wanted John out of the picture when he started questioning him about Anne Lively. He also killed Danny (Colin) because he found the glitch with Anne's murder as well. This was always about hidding Anne's murder so Lamar could take Agatha to create Precrime. We never really find out what happened to John's son.
The primary issue with pre-crime (beyond the enslaving of the precogs) is that every pre-murder perpetrator apparently gets an automatic life sentence with no chance of parole. Red Balls should be a twenty-four hour hold and mandatory counseling, and brown balls should be some form of forced institutionalization (in the case of psychopaths and serial killers) or if they're professional hitmen or something trying to force them to flip and use them for key witnesses in larger investigations. It's also never really explained how Pre-Crime could be made 'national.' The precogs have a limited range in which they can predict things, and they've only got the three of them. Are they going to build an airship and just constantly fly them around the country or something?
I think that there are a couple other "primary" issues with it, namely, that no crime has been committed yet--or is in the process of being committed, so nobody is actually guilty of anything, and people that have decided to do something can veto that with another act of volition. Nishi Shah, a philosopher, wrote a good paper about this. You can look it up by Googling "Direct Doxastic Voluntarism Nishi Shah". I'm sorry, I can't remember the name of the paper at the moment. Nevertheless, it gives a very persuasive case for at least the subjective veto of decisions made and, in that sense, a truly libertarian freedom of the will.
I always like to think that John ended up in prison and everything that happens after they put him in there is just like Tim Blake Nelson said: "They say you have visions, that your life flashes before your eyes and that all your dreams come true" That is why is so easy for his wife to break into a maximum security prison and take him out without any problem.. Everything after this sequence are John's dream being fulfilled while in a prison induced fantasy created the halo they put on his head. It makes total sense.
You could liken the Precogs to modern AI, as both effectively work as pattern recognition systems. Also, the fallibity of AI is seen as where the accuracy of the precogs break down, as when an individual decides to make a choice that is contrary to what the patterns predict they will do.