Miquella is NOT Griffith | Elden Ring Lore Analysis 

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That was the politest way I've ever heard anyone describe the Eclipse

Great theory, especially since Miquella used his own blood to make Haligtree grow... so a lot of blood sacrifces might make some other tree grow.

Bro referencing the berserk manga like a a holy text is so real 12:57

"Thats right, I'm talking about the HORNIEST half brother around, Mack Daddy Mohg" 💀

I absolutely agree that Miquella bewitched Mohg in order to control him, as Miquella is like you said a chess master playing on a grand scale. However, I believe that the kidnapping may not have been planned and was more of an unintended consequence of the bewitching branches effect on Mohg's already delusional mental state. Albeit purely speculation, Miquella needed to get closer to Mohg to study the power of the Formless Mother. This video mentions blood sacrifice and Miquella needed this knowledge to cure his curse and evolve into a god. With the knowledge of the Formless Mother's blood magic he was able to form his Haligtree, which could have potentially challenged the Erdtree's power if it had reached its adult form. We know that Miquella’s cocoon was essentially the heart/soul of the Haligtree, but his premature removal via the kidnapping stunted the tree, leaving its inhabitants praying for Miquella's return. Elden Ring's NPCs are prime examples of the old proverb: the road to hell is paved with good intentions. A common meaning of the phrase is that wrongdoings or evil actions are often undertaken with good intentions; or that good intentions, when acted upon, may have unintended consequences. Miquella seems to have the best intentions: freeing his sister of rot, himself of eternal youth, and the Lands Between of the influence of fickle outer gods. In the end these intentions led to only more bloodshed for a dream that would never be brought to fruition. Fantastic video!

“Little Bloodborne guys” got a good chuckle out of me. Funny how the thing that was initially inspired by Berserk ended up becoming the reference, and not the other way around. 😅

My theory is the dlc will be about the return of both Miquella AND Godwyn. Miquella being reborn and Godwyn being resurrected in his warped current form

These new smaller lore channels have been really taking a dump on the bigger ones. You guys really do dig into the real shit we're all looking for 👍

I’m honestly expecting him to co-op the Formless Mother to complete his ascension to godhood. He’s not gonna take the fact we murdered his twin sister lightly.

His beauty, leadership skills and prowess with the sword and combat are probably Griffith's most redeeming qualities

I think Miquella used the bewitching branches on Marika to get an Erdtree seed. The fact that he was growing his Haligtree with his own blood is what drew the attention of the Formless Mother, since she is an outer god of wounds and blood. We see the albinaurics were undergoing metamorphosis alongside Miquella as the tree was growing and producing sap, which is a process Mohg screwed up by kidnapping Miquella. Miquella doesn’t respond to Mohg because Mohg’s love and planned dynasty under the Formless Mother is one-sided, not reciprocated by Miquella. I would argue Miquella doesn’t want anything to do with outer gods at all. Miquella abandoned the Greater Will after he learned it couldn’t heal his sister and found unalloyed gold to heal her himself. He manifested Saint Trina to give relief to those suffering from the Flame of Frenzy. I think Miquella is planning to ascend to the power of an Outer God of unalloyed gold which would remove the influences of other other outer gods who have done so much damage to the Lands Between- including the outer god of rot when Malenia becomes his empyrean vessel. He’d expel the gods of rot and frenzy, who actively harm and destroy people. He’d remove the god of death and deathroot from the Lands Between who had a hand in killing Godwyn. And he’d replace the Greater Will, an impersonal force who doesn’t seem to care about the people suffering under its control, like the Misbegotten and Albinaurics. Miquella is described as a character who actually cares about the Lands Between and wants to help people live peacefully together. Performing a massive blood sacrifice doesn’t seem to follow from that.

The betrayal is gonna hurt for real with this one 😂

Completely agree Miquella is not Griffith .

I think the following should be noted: Griffith's ambitions were never nearly so simple. Or rather, they were, but his relationship to them is complicated. Griffith's main reason for agreeing to the sacrifice of the Eclipse was that, if he did not achieve his dream somehow, all those whom he sacrificed for it before that point would've died for nothing. Directly before this, the Band Of The Hawk had fallen into despair after seeing the full extent of Griffith's injuries; of how he could not become their king anymore. Of how they'd essentially saved him for no reason. Now, obviously, Guts had no such objections, and planned to stay with Griffith as long as he could to help him heal... Except Casca was telling him to leave. As such, Griffith had initially chosen the seemingly most logical choice; ridding everyone of the burden that is himself. His dream was impossible, so what was the point in making others sacrifice more for him? What was the point of continuing to live in such disgrace? But then, the Eclipse happened. I believe Miquella might, just might, be like Griffith in this specific manner; someone who forces themselves forward due to the weight of the sacrifices of others. People literally blew themselves up just to " light the way" for his "return". If he failed to grow, to become a god as was his fate, ordained by the Two Fingers and the Greater Will, what was he worth? Why had they all died for him, if he would fail?

so youre saying Skull Knight Radahn comes back in the dlc knowing why miquella sent malenia to fight him

The radagon question at the end reminds me of Honored Madman's theory that Radagon was Marika's science experiment including her lineage with the nox.

Great dichotomy. I appreciate you highlighting the distinction Jack, seeing as the Miquella and Griffith comparisons have been going on since 2022. I'm curious, what's the connection between blood and time travel? From what I could see there is the ancient dragon stone scales and the storm in Farum Azula that possess the abilities to warp time, but I don't see any use for blood in that regard. In regards to causality, I've come to think the reason why Miquella's plan A (ascend to godhood through the Haligtree) failed, or had to "fail", is because the previous Golden Order incurred too much shall we say "karmic debt", which created a retaliatory effect and Miquella lost the divine protection of an Outer God for a time during the process of ascension; as his intent was to liberate himself from the burden of being an Empyrean. Mohg, similar to the Dung Eater, reveled in his corruption. He felt it was all he had left once the Golden Order forsook him. He remained in hiding during the Shattering and slowly amassed a blood cult, but there was never a reconciliation between him and his parents; or any kind of compensatory action to balance out the rejection and subsequent torture and imprisonment. Omen Killers are still at large, and Omens with their horns removed can be found in Stormveil Castle as well as Leyndell. Consider, if you will, that Miquella, similar to Christ willingly getting crucified, is taking on the "sins" of mankind to balance causality enough to create a perfect Golden Order. Including the act of providing refuge for the lost and rejected such as the Misbegotten that you had mentioned, there is also cut content where in his disguise/other self St. Trina he soothes the Frenzied Flame. He can foresee the impending delay to the realization of his objectives, similar to Jesus knowing he would be tried and crucified, but he also sees the fulfillment of his dream once the "karma" is cleansed. Why does Gideon imply that Marika felt sorrow in the face of Miquella's capture, even though there is evidence that she worked with him on the Tarnished plan alongside the other Empyreans? Think of the sorrow of Mary in knowing the fate of Jesus, like as depicted in the Pieta, and the pain, and possible suffering, he may endure in the process of "bringing heaven to Earth". Or in a more modern context, think of Doctor Strange in Infinity War sifting through millions of timelines (picture Miquella staring into the storm of Farum Azula) and seeing there is only one timeline where they break the cycle of Samsara (defeating and harmonizing the Outer Gods and creating an eternal Golden Order). Miquella sets the stage for the Tarnished before departing, having faith in their eventual resurrection, lovingly giving them the tools they had once used to traverse and tame the Land's Between, and even quell Frenzied Flame while helping their twin sister remember their dignity through Millicent. In a Berserk context, I think Miquella is more like Schierke, and will be playing that role within the DLC as the mystic guiding the Tarnished through their trials in the spirit world and time travel.

Miquella is the type of person who's so perfect, that I can't help but be suspicious of him and his motives.

Nah, miquith is definitely griffella.

That mohg thing is actually brilliant never even thought of that

Bro haven’t you hear? He uses love to shrive clean the hearts of men. That’s a Griffith move if I’ve ever heard one.

Bro just casually busting out the Berserk Bible like that. Subbed.

4:34 im only up to here but i wanted to say how refreshing it was to not have a cut there. I liked that

So glad this video got recommended to me. Love the lore talk. Can’t wait to watch more!

He isnt Griffith. Though there are similarities. He enchants people into loyalty, has goals beyond what anyone can even guess, and assuming Miquella resurrected a lost legendary location in the DLC Griffith did that too (all to bend reality to fight the foreign Apostles)

Thanks again for the shoutout!! Another great theory video too!! As a fan of berserk, I definitely need to reread it with Elden ring in mind. I'm really excited to see what we learn about Miquella in the DLC and will be coming back to this video and Berserk. I like to think Miquella is a red herring to the comparison of Griffith, especially the Femto "egg" that you see on volume 12's cover. Super excited to watch the Carian History video!!

Miquella is the longest lasting amber alert

I've had the feeling for a long time that being kidnapped by Mohg was somehow a part of Miquella's plan at least based on the circumstantial evidence. That evidence being that when we see Miquella in the intro he's in his normal small state but once we see him in present time he's massive presumably as a direct result of Mohg giving him blood. I wouldn't call it iron clad but based on the Miquella being a charmer, manipulator and schemer it seems feasible that he could put the pieces into place to allow for things to happen how they have. It might be far fetched but I like the idea more than it being a series of coincidences

He’s not as sus as Griffith, that’s for certain.💪🏾💙

this is such a fresh and sound theory! great video, can’t wait to see more of your stuff!!

Babe wake up jack is a mimic dropped another video!

This is a really interesting take! I'm still reading through the manga, so I haven't made all the connections yet. While Griffith on a surface level seems to be similar to Miquella, I can see how Mohg could also be a stand-in. For a split second, when you were gearing up to annouce Mohg, I was thinking of Ranni based on the description... She did make sacrifices to, maybe they all have a little bit of Griffith in them... Great video!

I love the Miquella chess master idea though I think there's an element that wasn't mentioned: the haligtree failed. it did not grow fast enough or healthy enough even with miquella watering it with his own empyrean blood. He needed more time and more sacrifices to grow the tree so he found a worshippers of blood to fertilize his new order. I saw an interesting theory about how the defilement of Miquella's body mirrors the seedbed curse, maybe to grow the tree he had to be fully separated from grace?

This is great! I’m glad you covered this cause I was so sure of myself. Your theory makes a lot of sense.

Have you seen the video on the archeology of elden ring's Devine towers? Maybe there are some ideas on what was there before the primordial crucible. Any ideas?

Such an interesting theory! I love the creativity and research done by the ER community. The location of the palace is something I didn't hear anybody mention so far. Well done!

Guts and Griffith are two of the most dynamic and interesting characters in the history of storytelling. Beserk needs more exposure, it's a masterpiece of the new weird.

Can’t believe you didn’t bring it up but miquella wanted to start a literal eclipse himself and needed radahn to die so the starts can move again to do so. Giving another reason for him wanting malenia to fight him. It’s also one of the biggest things to point to another comparison because of the eclipse miquella wanted.

Well put together, definitely got me on board with the explanation. Thought the car exchange was exactly how it should have been handled lol.

Could listen to you talking about this all day, amazing video

Your videos are great have finally been replaying Elden Ring (went off the game as i never really got good at it like other titles as i just used Spirit Summons all the time) and they've been a good listen. Every decision you've made to distinguish yourself from other similar channels has been a real winner, you've clearly got great creative instincts. Although Berserk is obviously ripe ground for Fromsoft speculation I think people really fixate on it. For example people always talk about Artorias purely from a Berserk standpoint when he is clearly (also) influenced by Elric, a series Miyazaki afaik mentioned (trying to) read as a kid.

Insanely well done video. Would love to see more Berserk content from you

You’ve pointed out some details from the manga that I didn’t even notice 😮 ❤

God I thought that was my cat yelling. He is very quiet so I go to check on him he's just sitting in my recliner looking at me like I'm acting weird.

You always bring cool ideas and great presentation. I like your usual style a lot, but this is also nice - perfect for a more chill mood :)

noice shout out to @ontos99 i am here for the deep tissue lore massage we be getting from you all 💜

a few things 1. "Griffiths dream might not be his own dream, maybe it was a dream sent to him by the Godhand": dream can mean two things. the literal dream you have while youre asleep (st. trina) and the metaphorical dream as in a life defining goal (think Griffith, MLK, Giorno Giovanna, Senator Armstrong etc). Griffiths dream is not a vision sent to him by the godhand but a desire, a goal he decided to spent his entire life pursuing. 2. Griffith's choice: The exact workings of causality aren't known. the universe seems pretty determenistic but the Godhand also said it's Griffiths choice to make, they could be lying but this could also be a way for the author to give us a hint. If a villain is only a villain because destiny wanted him to become one he isn't really evil and the conflict between Guts and Griffith is completly meaningless which I don't think was the intention. one interpretation is that Griffith is bound by fate but is also an active participant in that fate. rather than not wanting to do something but having to anyway because fate is controling you, it is fate that makes it so that doing this is what you want. does he want it because thats who causality wanted him to be, or is it fated bacause that's who Griffith is? maybe Causality took Griffiths choice into account and had alternative in the case he refuses. even the Godhand cannot predict everything like Guts and Casca escaping and in the black swordman arc the slug count actively decides not to take the offer. it is said that to innact the plans of the Godhand they need someone who is reborn 2 times. this would've applied to the count since he first became an apostle and then (hypothetically) a godhand but after he refusing Griffith/Femto is sent to be reborn a second time at the tower of conviction. even if they weave destiny they still cannot make out the exact details but as Slann said at the end of the eclipse "the leaping of one fish would never disturb the flow of the river". Griffith likely could've refused and they simply had to put of their plan for another 216 years or sent one of the others to be reborn. complicated topic if you noticed 3. Griffiths redeeming qualities: Griffith is absolutely 100% evil and nothing justifies what he did. Falconia isn't created because Griffith is such a nice guy who wants everybody to get along, it merely serves his goal. He also only provides the cure for a problem he created when merging the worlds. with that said there are positive things to note about him, not moral things as anything both good and bad he did was ultimatelly selfish, but philosophically. he is a commoner born from nothing striving to become king to let the world know that he exists and matters, he provides a sense of purpose to the band of the hawk, he doesn't care who joins him whether they are a bandit leader, a little girl, or a guy who just killed one of his own man, so long as they further the cause he welcomes them, his friendship with Guts was very real and the punishment he received was not justified in any way and truly shows him from a vunerable and relatable perspective, it was his inspirational determenation and conviction for his dream that gave Guts the realisation that he cannot live his own life following others, and finally after becoming the Godhand Femto and being reborn at the tower of conviction he shares a body with the moonlight boy the child of Guts and Casca who was also turned into the demon child by the corruption of Femto's "seed". in the final chapter drawn by Kentaro Miura this is revealed, as Griffith while turning back into himself talks about feeling the embrace of nostalgic warmth only to be left with a faint feeling of longing which then to disappears with a single tear fleeting like morning dew. Many say this is prove that Griffith is being redeemed while many others say it's just the tear of the demon boy. I disagree with both. I believe that just as he said at the hill of swords Femto is truly uncaring. he lost his humanity at the eclipse. I believe that when the moonlight boy turns back to Femto just for a brief moment the real Griffith returns able to reflect upon his choice, able to feel the guilt and shame the self hatred knowing what he's done and knowing that soon his heart will freeze once more, as the faint feeling of loneliness disappears with a single tear like morning dew and Femto returns. and if that's not tragic I don't know what is

This is a quality channel with quality videos man

Miquela reminds me a lot of Bakkalon, the Pale Child and the dark god of the Steel Angels in the 1000 worlds grrm series. He is a god of war and strength, and the angels use his name to wage war across the stars and conquer various alien species.

I think you're really onto Miquella here Jack, love the theories. I've always posited that Miquella compelled Mohg to 'steal him away' because he needs the Formless Mother's womb to be reborn as his true Empyrean form. The fact that Miquella fed his failed Haligtree his own blood definitely connects well with the blood sacrifices of the Mohgwyn faction.

Every SINGLE time I hear that Berserk score 😢😭

Cool theory man. I'm suprised this never crossed my mind because when you laid out your premise it made total sense.

really disagree that mikkela had anything to do with knight of the black knives. if anything what happened to godwyn seems to have alternately screwed up & motivated his other plans in terms of replacing the corrupted erd tree with the haligtree - a pure, 'unalloyed' holy tree (and god, and lord, and order) wholly removed from the original great tree's roots which introduced the wild & disordered life of the crucible to the erd tree's golden order.

Bro, Patches is a God! He's a trickster, archetype of change and revealing lies.

Miquella is a weird one. It almost seems like he set up the fight between Melania and Radahn. He gets kidnapped which leaves a trail south for Melenia to follow leading to the battle between the pair, we can also surmise that Melania wasn't interested in great runes as she left Godrick alive. Radahn keeps the stars/heavens in place locking everyone's destinies in place as well. (Ranni's Moon/Miquella's Eclipse) so maybe he believed in her abilities to kill Radahn and enable the next stage of his plans.

I love this theory even more after the DLC announcement! I think you’re spot on

Loving the video. Always prefer it when ppl analyse the story and characters, not just call out characteristics and timetables

Miquella is an Empyrean destined to become a God. He dealt with the other Empyreans in various ways, but had to enter the Shadow-world to deal with the last guy(DLC boss). Which is what we'll help him do(like we helped Ranni), or kill him.

the cat part was the best!!! great video!!

I’m in love with berserk Thanks for making this video

Excellent video!! Loved it!!

I really hope Miquellas just a really confused dude. Like he wakes up and is just like “uh why is everyone dead?” “The fuck did I miss!?”

I've been saying this for a while but we definitely have been playing in Miquella's palm and another thing I think is that Miquella and Marika might be more alike in that sense and that could be why he is the most feared Demi-god.

I'm thinking St.Trina is a severed part of Miquella, same as Millicent is Malenia's severed pride and Radagon is Marika's severed something(zeal maybe?). Melina might be someone's severed something too. It keeps with the theme of gardening. Can't graft something without pruning.

i was thinking "hey miquella really reminds me of griffith" and then this vid drops. truth be told, i haven't played elden ring yet, but just the design made me think so.

Another great video!!!

Miquella sounds like Bloodraven from A Song of Ice and Fire. Who is theorized to have used his magic to influence many events throughout Westeros, and loves his siter (though probably in a different way to Miquella.) He's also real into blood magic.

thinking new trailer proved that Marika is Griffith. But is Miqeulla a savior or lying to ascend to godhood

While just hearing the name Griffith makes my blood boil, I will gladly watch an Elden ring video about Miquella. Also very accurate description of Beserk.

Please more berserk lore videos, your voice is so soothing

I think it's something devs as well as artists that take inspiration from others do... What inspires them, sometimes it's inverted to a different deeper cause. But all the outer similarities draw in your intrigue. They're not the same 1 for 1 like you said, but there was definitely surface level inspiration in the character taken from Griffith without a doubt, all those first similarities you mentioned are not a coincidence. They just inverted their inner character traits, motivations, and "alignment" and kept the outer similarities.

I've been checking out your Miquella and the Eclipse video and now this one, and I'm really impressed both by the quality of the editing, narration and how the lore is analyzed. Good stuff. I also wanted to offer my own idea of the timeline because it got discussed toward the end and it's a big pet peeve of mine. In the short timeline argument you said that you think the Crucible was the first thing to exist, then the comet that sent down the Elden Beast which became the Elden Ring, and then everything else. In my opinion this is most likely wrong, because the Crucible as it is described doesn't seem to be something that exists independently from the Greater Will, and therefore my timeline goes that the first event that happened was the comet with the Elden Beast that hit a lifeless, empty planet, then the Crucible was created from the site of the impact and started creating life as directed by the runic metaphysical order enforced by the Elden Ring, and then various forms of life started emerging. First the dragons, who ruled the world with Placidusax as firs Elden Lord, then the beastmen who served them, then the first demi-humans and finally humans, who created the various civilizations in the Lands Between until Marika's ascension who replaced the dragons with the humans as rulers of the world. My source behind this timeline is that both Ordovis' Greatsword and the Gilded Greatshield from Godrick Knight describes the Crucible as Golden, right from the very start. The primordial matter that was the Crucible possessed a particular tint of reddish gold, said to be close to life itself (obviously, since it's the source of all life), and the presence of Gold reveals the influence of the Greater Will and its constructs. The Elden Beast and its golden fire and insides, the Elden Ring which is a golden rune, the Ancient Dragons who have golden skin beneath their rocky skin and can be seen on Placidusax's wounds and the regular dragons' wings, and finally Placidusax's own golden breath that looks the same as the Elden Beast. The Crucible, then, is revealed as another Golden construct born from the influence of the Elden Ring. The Crucible Spells of the Crucible Knights are placed in the same in-game group as all the other Golden Order incantations, including Radagon's fundamentalism and the primordial Elden Stars incantation, because they are all, indeed, golden spells tied to the Greater Will and generally powered by Faith (with only Fundamentalism setting itself apart). There should be no life before the Crucible and the Beast bearing comet because the Crucible is explicitly described as the source of all life, and only very few living things exist with no relation to the Crucible/Erdtree, such as the Albinaurics who set themselves apart for silver blood and being man-made. If the Nox bleed red that means they too were created long after the arrival of the Elden Ring and the Crucible. Finally, the Crucible is the primordial form of the Erdtree, and the phrasing on that always made me understand that there couldn't possible be other Erdtrees before the Shattering, when the tree started releasing seeds and Minor Erdtree started popping up, and like there was one Crucible there could also have been only one Erdtree, which is the one we see in-game. There can be no Great Tree that existed before the Erdtree because it'd be a regular form of life that comes before the origin of all life, and the Great Tree is really meant to be understood as a mistranslation and another way to refer to the Erdtree, specifically when it comes to the giant root system under the ground.

8:55 "MEOWWWWW!!! 😾" Love Luna's participation! Love your videos btw

Yeah, the appearance means relatively little when the previous stand in for Griffith in Dark Souls was Gwyn who couldn't be further from the appearance pf Griffith but who's linking of the fire is direct mirror to the eclipse and even takes place after Artorias, his Guts, leaves him.

imagine the plot twist is that Miquella *_doesn't_* betray us

I'd S my pants if this was the case. Awesome video. Had not considered this, and its big time compelling. This is the 1st video ive seen from you. Ill be back.

These are two characters I find very interesting. Great video, I enjoyed the differences you presented as contrasted with surface level similarities.

Idk, I still kinda feel halfway between. I think the real answer, until the DLC proves otherwise, is to assume that both characters took inspiration from Griffith. I don't see them making Mogh SO different from Griffith physically, sharing no character similarities other than the imprisonment, AND putting the Rot Twins in the same game. I can see the idea being used, but ultimately, Mogh's Falconia is a small place that we tear through and effectively destroy. And Griffith's goal was ALWAYS to rule, not just after he went through those horrible acts which I cant even type here. And again, he succeeds. Hell, he succeeds TWICE. As Femto he ascended beyond Godhood and stood against SK and Ganishka, as the Millenium Falcon he ruled over the lands. To be Mogh, he'd have had to have been killed by Guts during their first encounter post-Eclipse. If anything, Causality itself, not Miquella, set the stage for this theorized rebirth, tho you could argue that outside Aggressors pushed certain buttons to increase the likelihood of one result. Meanwhile, not only does Miquella look like him, not only does he have the Behelit-like egg, but even Malenia basically looks like Griffith with red hair. Uses a single sword, as well. If you want to tie it to Berserk, you could say that Miquella is basically the Femto inside Melania, and would've eventually killed her to enable his ascension. And that doesn't conflict with the Eclipse story, OR the idea that Miquella is playing 4D chess. And beings of the right lineage have been shown able to split themselves, or have two halves (Marika). Maybe that primeval voice has control of Miquella, like how the Godhand penetrated Griffith's psyche. Granted, they didnt REALLY ramp it up until he was psyologically broken, they were always there, or at least Void was. Void can claim Causality, but Apostles 100% helped push Griffith over the edge he was always teetering on. Would he have sacrificed The Band for his kindgom 2 years earlier? Probably. Would he have "Eclisped" them? Doubtful. And if Void truly wanted Causality to determine his fate, he wouldn't have allowed Apostles to interfere in Guts' journey to save Grif. There's a million different ways you could interpret it, whereas so far we've only discussed theories based in Berserk lore. Though it would be cool to start the DLC by going to Moghwyn Palace, being met by Gowry and Millicent, at which point you're transfered into this astrological plane of horrors where Gowry, Millicent, and the somehow barely-living Malenia are consumed by the blood and fed to a now-revealed full power Miquella. However, that is a bit on the nose.

Gut's theme hits me every time the vocals start. Sheer perfection for his character.

haven't watch the video yet but just because you said Miquella is not Griffith i love you so fucking much

Good video. I haven't read Berserk yet but it sounds like you have a good theory. You mentioned how Mohgwynn Palace looks like it's on top of a tree stump and that got me thinking about Castle Morne and Redmane Castle. They also kind of look like they are on tree stumps. Stormveil Castle has the blighted tree underneath it with Godwyn's face. Even Volcano Manor has a little (burned) tree inside it next to the Temple of Eiglay. What do you think Jack? Maybe these are where other competing Trees used to grow before Godfrey chopped them down, as you put it. I'm excited for the DLC don't get me wrong but ahhhhhh... may Chaos take the world! MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD!

Counterpoint: nuhuh, him Griffith Actual counterpoint: you gave more reason as to why Miquella manipulating both his warriors and Mohg to serve hia long-term goal of having a kingdom through their own sacrifices actually is more like Griffith than people think.

Great video!

An actual good Channel amongst the 100 other channels that say the same thing over and over 🗣️🔥

I like this style, but I've not watched your other videos YET. You got a subscription.

All in on the “time travelling Miquella”? Great shout, my fingers are crossed for you!

The fact that you're are trying to make the point that Griffith is just a pawn, proves (to my personal theory at least) that Miquella is inspired of him. Just like Malenia, Miquella IS under the influence of outer influence, via this strange god that puts him into a cocoon, as an insect that can't grow (we see his small wings and insect-like silk on the panel of Mogh abducting him). This state of his, influenced almost all of his future actions by nerfing him to the ground, leading Miquella to try and undo his curse, to achieve his goals, saving Malenia and Godwyn etc... Yes he probably manipulated Mogh in some way but more in the way he manipulated this rich king by litteraly giving himself to him for money, killing him later on. Miquella is not a fool, nor is Griffith who GOT exactly what he wanted in the end: Falconia, the kingdom of his dreams and even more. He was not just a mere pawn but an actor. In the end HE decided, even if everything was set to achieve this outcome. All that aside, most of the time Fromsoft will just inspire themselves from Miura to create characters. Just as Maliketh, Gael, Blaidd and Artorias who mirror specific aspects of Guts. Miquella if inspired by Griffith, will not reflect 100% of the character in my opinion. I really liked your video nonetheless, very effective to challenge my own theories to, thank you.

We are all operating on the basest of plains. This dude has eyes on the inside.

Does this posit that the formless mother is none other than a made-up god, who really is just Miquella working behind the scenes?

I feel like queen Marika fit more as Griffith but I could be wrong

I don't understand the Miquella and Griffith comparison in the first place. The two charcaters couldn't be more polar opposites.

One sticking point that's irked me since it's come to light is that for all his machinations and seeds sewn, Miquella was spirited away from his Haligtree. It was clear he had a plan for himself and everyone that lived in Elphael to become something more and to grow a tree to rival the Erdtree. To put in all of that effort and being responsible for all those lives only to be ripped away from it doesn't sound like a plan. Everyone is left in the dark as to what happened and why, and the entirety of the Haligtree is wasting away for a returning Miquella that will never come. Meanwhile, Mohg has a plan and is in the middle of executing it when we show up. He's got the bloody fingers operation that sews chaos among the Tarnished and those faithful to the Two Fingers, and a captive Emperean. The only problem is that Miquella hasn't responded in all the time he's been held captive. If we are going with the theory that Miquella created this plan for Mohg, why has Miquella never once done anything? The most obvious answer is that he's either dead from years of torturous forced bloody growth or simply still asleep. Either way, Miquella has no agency.

Amazing video keep it up

It makes a ton of sense that it's Miquella controlling the alternate playthroughs, because the first thing that happens to us, and kind-of anoints us as the player character, is us receiving Torrent, who seems to have belonged to Miquella, from Melania.

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18:15 lol wasnt expecting this to become the church of the godhand.

So is it possible that the formless mother (the mother of blood) is what Mohg is enslaved to and being led astray by? Taking Griffith and splitting the character in half for the guiding light as miquella and the sacrificial demon mohg. It’s possible it’s a combination of the two. It could be that Miquella is also manipulating through dreams, but the formless mother is a separate character to the mother of dreams/St. Trina.

if he ain't griffith then he is like anataar (sauron), deciving everyone to gain ultimate power.

Miquella is more akin to the moonlight child/demonic fetus