Miquella planned our entire journey and i have the proof, will miquella turn out to be the bad guy of elden ring DLC shadow of the erdtree ? #eldenring #shadowoftheerdtree #miquella
Just when you think you’re done with miquella’s second phase… BAM! “Oh brother, dear brother, may your golden brilliance shine once more” 3rd phase Godwyn!
I noticed restarting the game the other night. that their are nascent butterflies at the end of the path after you defeat the graftered cyon. they guide you to the edge of the cliff where you fall. Indeed he has been guiding us from our very first steps.
Ranni and Miquella definitely were/are co-conspirators seeking to free themselves from the influence of the Greater Will. I’m undecided on Miquella’s true feelings toward Godwyn. As a character who is said to know how to manipulate, nothing he says or does can be taken at face value.
I’ve watched a lot of these lore videos. But the way you analyzed small things from the beginning of the game and tiny details throughout is amazing. The candle stick trees revealing shadow ghosts with golden footsteps. Miquellas influence has been there all along. Great work. 👏
Wow i actually tried to focus the recording on those footsteps as it's mentioned literally in the trailer to follow miquella's footsteps and golden footsteps was shown in the trailer as well, didn't think someone would notice that quick, great job. Thanks for the kind words, really appreciated ❤️
What if he's not talking about Godwyn but Messmer? What if Messmer is the brother he's talking about? After all Godwyn is a brother from a different father. Messmer, if we're all right about Radagon being his father, is his true brother. What if Miquella is trying to free Messmer from the shadow? What if the eclipse is part of that ritual? I'm going to go back to castle sol and look at everything through the lense of it potentially being Messmer and not Godwyn as the focus.
When i made this theory i was trying to only rely on true known facts for us therefore it was Godwyn being mentioned but your theory is quite interesting tbh. It requires Messmer to be their brother tho but i will try to look it up as well and tell us if you find something.
@@G4meplusi could be wrong but I think I saw a interview where it’s stated messmer is the son of merika. In the portrait with the old man and the woman, she appears to be pregnant. She’s holding her stomach and there’s a “baby bump” showing on her right side if you look closely..
Maaaaaaaaaan you may be onto something with that. Best thing is it’s still canon (hypothetically of course lol) to the theories I’ve heard. It works logically with the theory I have as well (miquella and melina are the same person)
Tbh it's easily missed since you get teleported to the capital after defeating maliketh, actually in my first playthrough i never returned to maliketh arena lol. Thanks for the support ❤️
good theory i feel like miquella is the real ennemy and Messmer only being a facade too, keep improving your video that rafraishing contenu on elden ring !
I’ll say it on this page to. I think miquella has had a hand in the events. Miquella definitely had something going on with ranni for her to recieve a spirit calling bell to give to us who is riding miquella horse torrent. Also shows that since rahdan needs to be dead that ranni and miquella share the same interest in the stars movement. Miquella also met Melina before us thus giving her torrent to give to us. There means miquella has been leading us toward him but also influencing other people along the way. So imo miquella is kinda like marika n how she manipulates people. Questions I have is 1. Why are we miquella “promised lord” 2. Miquella said “return” as if we ever seen him before or the shadow tree. Have we been there or met him before?how do we return to something that’s are first time seeing. 3.melina was born at the “foot” of the erdtree. Would that imply this tree?
Very interesting questions, i though about a couple of them myself and was trying to dig up some answers. If i find a good answer perhaps we can make a video answering them with explanation.
This is more interesting than "the player character is a dream of Miquella" that's been around since the beginning, if not as cool/esoteric. Miq being a mastermind of absurd proportion (rather than Marika) is something that can tie together a lot of stuff. From Gideon's confusion as to what the hell he was up to to the problem in establishing Marika's involvement in the NotBK. We will see. Very nicely presented.
@@G4meplus moreso by gnosticism, which often wears Christianity like the skin of a victim. The devil appears as an angel of light, though, and that's a very curious concept.
recently (feb 24) miyasaki said that there is still one secret nobody has spotted yet to his knowledge and now i need him to comment on every video if this is it now.
I can see Miquella being the actual big bad in this game and not Mesmer and Mesmer actually turned insane/bad because of Miquella and Marika.. I am so curious.
7:20 You raise many good points, but this symbol is actually of the Haligtree, though I do agree it looks a lot like the candle tree. If you go to Elphael and agro some of Miquella's knights, they cast incantations that use this same symbol.
Yes you are right i didn't notice it was used by any other spell until someone told me in the video comments. But i don't think this breaks the theory because miquella could've shaped his haligtree emblem to look like the candletree for the mentioned reasons.
@@G4meplusthe haligtree IS supposed to be the antithesis to the erdtree itself after all. He was trying to make his own erdtree in his image. Everything he's done has been for Godwyn.
I definitely think you’re on the right track. I think Messmer is a red herring designed to take our focus and attention off of Miquella. Thought about this last night - Malenia got the “Messmer” treatment at the games launch - a statue and really a main focus of the trailer (with her battle with Radon). But Malenia ended up being an optional boss. Think Messmer will be the same. He’ll be the extremely challenging (but optional) boss of the DLC.
The more lore you explain the more I realise you're right and I clearly have no idea what's going on in the lands between. I'm lucky if I swing a sword in the right direction without cutting my own head off! I hope you get alot more views and subs - you deserve it!
I tink it's important to note that while yes Miquella LOOKS like a little girl he is NOT, OKAY! He's actually a 3000 year old demigod or something. Therefore Mohg did nothing wrong.
Damn, here i thought the theories were done, but this one makes so much sense, along with the one that Melina is Miquella, if you add that small fact plus this… sheeeesh
1. The wolves are interesting because we know for a fact that Gloam eyed queen was raised by 3 WOLVES (keep that in mind) 2. About Miquella, in the oficial website of the game it was uploaded a poem referring to the dlc and Miquella, in the last phrases we read "It was to this land that Miquella departed. Divesting himself of his flesh, his strength, his lineage. Of all things Golden. And now Miquella awaits the return of his promised Lord." So let start analyzing that logically, so in order for Miquella to set foot to the land of shadow (the land that Godess Marika first set foot), Miquella HAS TO DIVEST (left totally behind) his flesh (ranni did the same) his strength (no sleep and needles) HIS LINEAGE That is a MAJOR LORE BOMB here, that leads us tk the conclusion that the Miquella we find in the land of shadow HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with the Miquella we know that was chosen to ascend God hood as an Empyryan AND ALL THINGS GOLDEN (SO NO MORE ANALOYED GOLD FOR MIQUELLA, AND THE SECOND CONCLUSION OF THIS SECOND MAJOR BOMB here is that the Miquella we find in the land of shadow is TOTALLY OPPOSITE to Golden Order. Be prepared for major plot twists here because nothing is at it seems to be. And in land of Shadow Miquella that divest his own flesh, his lineage and the oppose the ideals of all things golden as the poem says and I say it again it is uploaded to the official website of the game, that Miquella awaits in the land of shadow his promised lord.
"What if I told you that Miquella guided our journey, and maybe manipulated us?" Well, considering my ending is the Frenzied Flame, I'd say Miquella fucked up. Though, I guess that WOULD give Godwyn a true death, so I guess there's no kill like overkill? Also, just to point this out, Messmir's chair isn't actually special or unique. It's the same chair that the others Demigods would have sat in: you can see it when you go to fight Morgott.
Well if you went into the DLC then the ending didn't happen right ? If it did then everything would've been destroyed so the conclusion is our ending doesn't affect the DLC in anyway.
@@G4meplusbut what about the choices we made along the way? Well the only difference is if Melina is still alive with us, dead, or left us after accepting the frenzied Flame, so it won't make a difference.
Top tier vid mate I think miquellas the guy divesting himself of flesh tho in the trailer instead Merica on the horse not much sense but the intro scene of miquella he’s creepy af, his arm creepy af but that on the horse has a booty
There is not a single indication of him being both male and female. He has been described in the base game as both a child and an adult, and both Miquella and St. Trina are male names. Maleina also calls him brother. I think the theory you are going for ( same as Marika and Radagon) is quite obvious and premature. I doubt FROMSoft will use anything so obvious.
holy shit nice discovery finding the candle tree in that ashe of war an highlighting the nascent butterflies in those specific locations i think you're onto something
My only question is, didn't we have to tell Ranni during our playthrough that Radahn was holding back her fate? I can't quite remember if she knew it, and therefore her teaming up with Miquella wouldn't quite make sense. Idk, the theory is great tho.
We didn't tell ranni no, i think it was a known fact but people didn't think killing radahn was even a possibility lol. Selivuis knew it, sellen knew it, jerren knew it and after talking to him then returning to iji he was confused how he didn't think that killing radahn was the solution even though he knew the stars holded the fate of ranni and he knew that radahn conquired them, which imply as i said that maybe people thought that killing radahn was impossible, he was a gigachad after all and even malenia couldn't do it. Thanks for the kind words ❤️
@@G4meplus Iji not knowing and he being the 'war counselor' to Ranni would imply that they never discussed it or simply that Ranni never told him, for whatever reason. Idk, its possible for sure... Idk about you but I love this stuff, haha.
@@G4meplusthis lends more credence to my pet theory. Miquella might very well have sacrificed Milenia to weaken Radahn, knowing that it was the only path to actualize her transcendence to Godhood, which from their perspective, is the last dying hope, lest the lands between rot in stagnation forever.
If part of Miquella's goal is to cause the burning of the Erdtree, it's interesting that we apparently don't have to do that as well before we can start the expansion and go to the Land of Shadow.
There is difference between canon and gameplay limitations tho, you will go into the DLC as the elden lord and you cannot be elden lord without burning the Erdtree but for gameplay purposes they will probably use pre mending world settings just like the base game revert back to normal after mending the elden ring ( endings dont affect the world so you can continue exploring ) same treatment for DLC.
@@G4meplus It could be like how the Dark Souls III lets you travel forward and back in time to and from the point when all the lands are covered in ashen ruins, but then Shadow of the Erdtree is apparently not going to include time travel according to Miyasaki. 🤔
I mean... kind of a weak twist when everyone sees it coming. Literally at this point. It would be a bigger plot twist if Miquella was actually a good guy.
Love your investgative videos of the Elden Ring I'm already binge watching all of them now, also I always had this speculation that Messmer might be the alter half of Godwyn
Yup, could be working with Ranni since she had his remembrance - maybe even knowing Godwyn would die or was simply cool with Ranni doing it as he could think the means justify the end, knowing he would have stood with the golden order anyway. Could be why he wants to see his brother put to rest so much. Righting a wrong and all that.
Thank you all for the awesome feedback and support on the video ❤️ you encouraged me to upload a new video based on this one where we unveil how Miquella will ascend to Godhood in the DLC. it's out now, check it out.
This just makes me more excited for the dlc!! Also makes me like miquella even more. Miyazaki said in a a interview that the dlc happens at the same time as the base game. No past or future. BUT what if doing the dlc unlocks another ending for the base game? What if ranni's ending isnt the true ending like many like to believe. I have a feeling what ever we do in the dlc with miquella, its gonna have either good or dire consequences
@@G4meplus true. But it was the same with ds3 and the ringed city. We technically don't get a new ending. But with the dark soul painting created by aria (the fan name for the little painter girl) we were given another "ending" where those who are left live on inside the painting that never rots. So maybe it's the same with this dlc.
Miquella is definitely inspired by Griffith and the line in the trailer "nothing is more terrifying" gives heavy griffith vibes from after griffith betrays guts and is building his perfect kingdom and is revered by all sorts of outcasts so I really think theres no way hes a good guy like a lot of people are saying
Clearly he has Berserk inspirations but I genuinely hope they don’t follow Griffiths character to the letter. Miquella should be his own character, not just a reskin of Griffith
Miquella's promise to her was about him ascending to God-hood and then he will cure her entirely from rot. My next video is about a very interesting topic very close to this, you will like it.
It feels more impactful. More... thoughtful. More... thought provoking, even. Cinematic. We can pay attention to details more as well, at least, that's my perspective anyway.
Please be nice. I think this video is so fun and well done. Vaati has his space and his style that no one can overshadow. I think this creator is trying to make his words impactful and sinister and in my opinion it worked quite well. We should be encouraging new content creators to add to the community. Not making petty little comments to try to tear them down.
What if Miquella is the Lion like boss with lightnings (possible end boss). If you look closely, it has braided hair like Miquella and it even might be that is two people combined to one, stacked on each other (Miquella and Godwyn). The lion even spit deathblight, and Godwyn is associated with it (statue in deeproot depths, black knives which imbued their knives with rune fo death to kill Godwyn.)
