Im 2 years in. I must really like the hobby because I got some new birds last year from a very reputable breeder and they had a virus lost 1/3 to virus and 1/3 to the hawks red tail and coopers. This year my whole 1st round of eggs froze when we had a cold spell hit in March second round cat got to the squeakers..... So I produced no kit birds this year. But I'm hoping I learned my lessons early and next year will be prosperous. All to say good luck and stick with it.
@@derrickrobinson4519 I had a rough start too. I went out last September and bought two pair turned out to be 4 hens. Went out and got two more cocks. They started breeding for me in April of this year so far they gave me eight youngsters now I’m going to pull the Cock back out and put them onto the other two hens and hopefully get eight more. I’m definitely going to fly them all this year and see how they do but I should have enough bread this year hopefully put some good pairs together next year.
He's exactly right, breeding the perfect roller is damn near impossible. I've tried everything and then when you add the BOP it's even more difficult. My best birds always came from parents that were not the best
Good stuff. I agreed with crossing families. Finding the birds/families that complement each other is importing especially when crossing with established good families. When crossing, if it ain’t better than the originals then it ain’t worth moving forward. There’s some secrets to it. I find that there’s no wrong or right it’s preference. My main F4 crosses now are setting the bar. I do have other variations of F4, F3, F2 and F1 as experimentation. Whichever version turns out the best is what I’ll be focusing on. They are still a young family I’m trying to build. They are showing a lot of activity with volume and chemistry. Will see how they behave as they get older to see if their traits are still desirable. I did flew their older siblings for one season and they are workhorse. Not deep birds average above 20ft with good speed. I plan to compete next year for the World Cup and it’ll be my first time. My main F4 crosses are now the nucleus of my family. I agreed observation and selection based on the merits. Some of my crosses that I flew are producing themselves. I’m very excited about it. Moreover, I personally seen in dogs and fowls and in pigeons to take a good family to a significantly higher level without bringing something in is almost impossible. Of course there’s going to be triers and errors before something good gets expressed.
One thing i learned with breeding. Wether it be Bucking Bulls, Game Dogs, or Birmingham Rollers...... All you can do is research. Put your best bird at one trait to your best of like traits or what ever trait you like to similar genetics. Hopefully the traits compliment each other and hope for the results you anticipate. Its really all a crap shoot. Now if you have already build your family with years of research and breedings then you could possibly predict your breeding. But i mean years...... No I'm not a bet at the hobby but I've bred other animals. A lil common sense. Alot of attention and time and you may possibly create what it is your seeking. Good luck and happy flying.
The two birds you just got I think Irish...... what do you call those. Especially the one with the blue patch with bars and it's badge or exactly what is that called...... It's my favorite color/pattern just never knew the name
I know you have a few families and cross's but i wanted to ask do you think they have better birds across the pond. I watched a video lastnht. 7 or 8 diff fanciers. You g birds and old. They all kit well broke well and had good depth. Hight was good and fly time. Im thinking no way everybody got kits like this. And they have some beautiful loft styles also.
Even if you breeding from....well im go say line breeding. Unless you bred em you dont know what. Plus how did the family become a family of birds. If it aint got a Penson band on it then its crossed some kind of way.
@derrickrobinson4519 Pensom has been dead since 1968. You won't find an authentic Pensom banded bird that's alive. Line breeding is the way to go. You may also have to inbreed from time to time
