Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning | This CGI will self-destruct in 5 secs | VFX Notes Podcast Ep 54

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(chapters available) This week we continue with our series of episodes about this year's Oscar nominees for Best VFX. We discuss Mission Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One, talk about the marketing hype, the 'NO CGI' debate and break down the major VFX scenes from @ILM. There are also 2 rants in the episode, sorry! Enjoy.
Chapters:
00:00 - intro
01:17 - brought to you by Backlight
01:59 - Podcast begins
03:27 - review of the film
07:33 - too much hype
08:55 - the marketing of the film
11:14 - the AI concept was better than the stunts
14:10 - the director's previous movies
17:41 - great characters
20:15 - Rome
24:16 - ’It was all shot for real!”
27:33 - Rome VFX by ILM
28:08 - at least they credit most artists
30:39 - the bike jump
38:29 - the train sequence
39:51 - the BTS only show the practical work
40:49 - mini ‘rant’ time about the 'no-CGI'
45:06 - the bridge explosion
48:38 - ‘rant’ part 2
53:22 - a bit underwhelming
56:15 - the other VFX studios
56:55 - 700+ people in VFX
57:24 - a small story about CineFex and MI films
59:20 - Patreon and Member credits
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@DGalious 5 месяцев назад

29:33 "VFX credits are larger than catering" - bravo! Hahahaha ))))

@candlebougie 5 месяцев назад

Some of these stunts would be more spectacular in the final movie (for my eyes) with less CG enhancements. A real train plunging into a ravine is awesome enough - but the shot is "watered down" in a way by the CG smoke, CG water, CG debris and and CG environment. The same with fights on top of the train. It doesn't look that dangerous and "real" because of the CG environments and foliage.

@being47 29 дней назад

no, you think you will like the practical better but 99% of time if post didn't added their touch it would not be spectacular by a mile.

@jcKobeh 5 месяцев назад

That superbly shitty burning fuse at the end was a fantastic touch, got a good laugh out of me. I'm also all in for a general VFX strike and educating the public.

@HugosDesk 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for watching until the end! 😂 much appreciated

@nickzardiashvili624 5 месяцев назад

The green contour was absolute perfection.

@nulliverse1891 5 месяцев назад

Hey man you might wanna cover things about Mission Impossible Fallout CGI. Because there is literally no cgi breakdowwn for that movie. There is few, but its in form of article writing. Especialy the halo jump scene, the vfx team had to track the camera movement, using very little tracking point, most of it is cleaned with hand. And some of helicopter scene is done with bluescreen. So yeah basically they actively trying to hide it. But I understand their reason. To be fair though the director never deny the usage if cgi, he just refer it as "movie magic". Because people nowadays think vfx are bad

@_travisimo 5 месяцев назад

HUGO LET IT GO ITS OBVIOUSLY ALL REAL, THEY SAID SO!!!!!!!

@MartinBeerbom 3 месяца назад

In "The Spy Who Loved Me", there's this really bad back-projected shot of Roger Moore pretending to ski. But this shot is embedded in this beautifully shot sequence of ski stunts in glorious Panavision. Which really enhanced the stunts and the stunt crew. Yes, Moore didn't do any of that, but SOMEONE FECKIN' REALLY did this! Some guy really jumped off a cliff with skis and parachute. But now, CGI and digital postproduction glosses over all of this, and blurs and blends the real and the artificial, which, paradoxically, kills the emotional affect of BOTH the real and the artificial. Yes, Tom has done a ton of stuff, but we don't care, because it's buried under a shit of digital bits (hah). In "Spy", they were able to showcase and celebrate the stunt crew IN THE FILM, and didn't need to publish some behind the scenes featurette. I wish they would go back to SHOW the real effort IN THE FILM, not beside it.

@rectangulardots 5 месяцев назад

It really is so annoying that so many people who don‘t have a clue are now talking about CGI being bad and stuff. While there are so many examples of CGI enhancing story-telling and making it possible to tell stories which wouldn‘t have been possible without it.

@TheLeagueOfSteve 5 месяцев назад

Always took "Tom Cruise does his own stunts" to mean "Tom Cruise does his own stunts" rather than "no CGI is used in this film."

@urbanstarship 5 месяцев назад

I'm with you, the motorcycle jump was ruined by the promos. The train sequence was a pleasant surprise, though. I enjoy the MI films for the spectacle and stunts, but I don't own any or rewatch them, and I couldn't recall any of the plots.

@AbrahamDorta 5 месяцев назад

You're quite right about Star Trek and Star Wars! I love both but when Star Trek tries to be Star Wars is not that great.

@tapje_ 5 месяцев назад

Please unionize, I feel that vfx artists are way to undervalued and under appreciated. It’s time that you show you vital you are to cinema and really show them. Just my opinion but I’m currently studying vfx and am really hesitant to look for work in the cinema production scene as it’s so underwhelming and instead will dive in advertising as you have more creative freedom, less demanding hours and more money and more appreciation. I really wish everyone gets together and actually does something i know it’s been talked about a lot too over the years

@rogerhalt3991 5 месяцев назад

I appreciate all the effort that goes into the VFX but it is dangerous what general media is saying. On another note -out of all the stunts, the cliff jump was covered in marketing before the movie released! This was mentioned @9:37 Completely removed the magic and wonder for me, like when Marvel releases 10 second clips every other day leading up to a release. Also, why is it two parts? The title has now been changed but this franchise is teetering on the edge of becoming forgettable

@kurtdewittphoto 5 месяцев назад

I loved the movie, but the CGI for the big bike jump stunt ruined the whole thing for me. As it was happening instead of being engaged, I was like, aw.. the ground looks fake.

@erinburke9711 5 месяцев назад

Exactly. The terrain they pasted over the ramp didn't look right.

@AleksandrMotsjonov 5 месяцев назад

ha ha ha. Love the green rim bleed on a fuse. that is a nice touch! =)))

@HugosDesk 5 месяцев назад

So glad you liked it!

@paulnicholas7393 5 месяцев назад

Enjoyed this, I think VFX artists deserve recognition for their work, but ultimately most actors are going to promote acting in scenes above getting scanned and being replaced by CG doubles, they are naturally going to talk about something that excites them. Likewise it's human nature to be compelled by another human putting themselves in physical danger for entertainment, so I can see why you might centre your promotion of a film around that rather than a technical post-production process. I'm not trying to downplay the amount of creativity and hard work that goes into VFX but I think that is realistic. Going on strike for better working conditions and pay I support, but pushing the blame on this to how your work is reported on is a stretch, I think you should look at your employer the VFX companies for improvements to this.

@simontrickfilmer 5 месяцев назад

love the "color chart" tee! Where did you get it?

@fredo1070 5 месяцев назад

For what a real being on top of a moving train is like, watch Sean Connery in the First Great Train Robbery 1978. It looks very dangerous and foolhardy.

@YTguySmithy-lk6go 5 месяцев назад

Yes. It's done with optical illusion. Connery had ample time to duck down although it didn't look that way. Connery did that crazy stuntwork before Cruise was even an actor!

@AleksandrMotsjonov 5 месяцев назад

My goal was to see my name in the credit. Finally (I forgot to notice it in prev. episodes) my name is the credit ... of at least VFX Notes episode =))

@HugosDesk 5 месяцев назад

Thanks so much for supporting the show

@DGalious 5 месяцев назад

33:30 He should have jumped from an Olympic ski jumping ramp :) That would fit perfectly into the plot.

@tronam 5 месяцев назад

The reason why Dead Reckoning is considered a disappointment is because of its $300M production budget, so it didn’t break even in its theatrical window. Hopefully it made up for that shortfall on VOD.

@MalmqvistM 5 месяцев назад

Theres another fairly recent train scene using CG. Would love to hear your thought on the VFX of the train scene in Pathaan. There are so many similarities!

@wycliffe_ndiba 5 месяцев назад

Before I watch this. Screen Rant is at the top of my list. They really need self reflection, anyway back to the video

@gilad1908 5 месяцев назад

Totally agree with you guys, not enough hot chicks in this flick

@AhmedYasser-np6tt 5 месяцев назад

Please! How can I fix rolling shutter in my plate ? Because it affect badly on camera tracking. when the camera move fastly it makes a skew or warp effect. The Foundry made a plugin to fix that before. But now it isn't available. And when the camera is static The rolling shutter still affect moving things It makes geometry tracking hard The things that moving fast make a shift and skew effect. Please help me to fix rolling shutter. Thanks ! ❤

@qaesarx 5 месяцев назад

Its not about that ALL is real. But just the fact that he DID some of the most dangerous stunts is AWESOME. He DID run on the Burj, he DID go into a F18, he DID train for that, he DID jump with the bike, and yes he has planes and multiple piloting skills, and other extreme sports track records. Is CGI involved ? Yes! Does it undo his stunts? Hell no! Who else does this today lets be honest... Guys dont you ever get pleased ? 😀What do you want him more to do ? LOL

@kejtos5 2 месяца назад

Not to lie about it would be a start.

@being47 29 дней назад

its his selling point that he did all the stunts but hiding CG/vfx in media, ignoring and not telling everyone even mentioning the very big part of the movie VFx/CG is wrong.

@DGalious 5 месяцев назад

Yes, the bike jump was overhyped. It felt like you have seen it already all way through even before entering the cinema. And imho the final cut of that stunt would look way more impressive if they would have avoided jumping between 10 cameras in 20 seconds focusing so much on the valley instead of focusing on Tom. If we would see it from 2-3 angles, that would look way more believable. But at the end: - Naah.. the motorbike most likely had been replaced by CGI as well.

@TheLeagueOfSteve 5 месяцев назад

There was a moment in Fallout where I realised Cruise was actually flying a real helicopter. It's better to let the audience figure things out for themselves

@purefoldnz3070 5 месяцев назад

what was wrong here is using CGI to remove the ramp, it removes the element of it being a real stunt. And it would have been easy to fix just have in the movie a group of filmmakers filming a red bull stunt driving a motocross bike off the mountain. They are about to film the stunt went Ethan races past the stunt rider goes up the ramp and does the stunt first. That way you preserve the original ramp plus add a bit of humor into it.

@HugosDesk 5 месяцев назад

That’s a great idea! You should be writing the film! 😜

@purefoldnz3070 5 месяцев назад

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@pawelmacpoof5687 5 месяцев назад

Wait why did they film stuff on set then replace the set with cg?

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@yanndick 5 месяцев назад

If only all viewers were reading end credits instead of rushing outside for more popcorn, they'd realize almost every single movie contains VFX and CGI nowadays, even the ones with no stunts or fantastic events in them. Cruise, Nolan and their kind are just showing some huge lack of respect to VFX artists, promoting their movies by saying "all is true in front of cam" BS. After what happened To Rhythm & Hues Studios with LIFE OF PI, I don't understand they keep pushing some artists out of the big picture just to impress the audience with lies.

@lanolinlight 5 месяцев назад

Don't worry, we can tell it's CG when the physics go hyperbolically cartoonish. But, yes, filmmakers should tell the whole truth, and content gabbers should do better research.

@berhunt 5 месяцев назад

This whole "we made it for real, and tom criuse is saving cinema stuff" took the enjoyment away from watching the movie because I saw CGi and rotoscoping in the train sequence all the time. All lot of stones and smoke effects looked artificial. In the bike jump I was also wondering where all the shots are which I saw in the BTS doing them. Like flying really close over the ground, to big cameras attached to is parachute.

@urbanstarship 5 месяцев назад

Um, you can't really do a car chase in Venice!

@JuiKuen 5 месяцев назад

Cruise can be commended for doing his stunts, but to keep saying it's all real when you can clearly see it isn't, is a cop out. He's not like Jackie Chan in his heyday. Yes, Chan never did _all_ his own stunts but those big ones, you could see it was all him.

@urbanstarship 5 месяцев назад

Interesting comparison of Mission Impossible to Star Trek. They've both gone too far from their intellectual roots and become about the action in search of the general audience.

@darviniusb 5 месяцев назад

All movies that have any vfx in it should have a badge on the cover, with the number of vfx shots in it. This will benefit everyone. Is ridiculous that this field of work that brings billions to studios and many companies, is so little know and worse, is hated by the public. Is like people are hatting the cook that makes them the food they love ! This is totally unacceptable and all vfx studios should go on strike unless this will change! Specially now that Ai video rendering is here.

@irfandagman8044 5 месяцев назад

Well you can’t expect a Star of a 300 million dollar movie to actually duck before a tunnel

@NacTaoS 5 месяцев назад

It s "all real" as The creator is "all real" XD

@stevenharsono9911 5 месяцев назад

Honestly ✌️✌️ , this action stunt mean nothing to us 😡😡 because our hearts is completely destroyed by this film 💔💔💔😭😭😭 , Rebecca Ferguson's Ilsa Faust character that we all loved for many years is being killed off and becoming a corpse on the Venice bridge in this film 💔😭😡

@nicholashughes4342 5 месяцев назад

I can't believe that now they're making CG backgrounds all over place. It's like if they did a simple movie like Breakdown today, they would do it all on a back lot and CG in the desert in the whole movie, ugh. be blessed saved all in Jesus shalom

@YTguySmithy-lk6go 5 месяцев назад

Cruise didn't jump far off a ramp. That was the deception. He jumped off a ramp and was on a wire. He fell a few feet before the wire forced him upwards. The final edit in the film is an embarrassing cgi stick man figure falling hundreds of feet. 33:27 final cut in film. 33:37 alternative angle showing cgi Cruise falling. 33:47 wider angle showing cgi Cruise falling. 33:49 behind and below angle showing cgi Cruise falling. 33:52 helicopter angle of cgi Cruise falling. 33:57 close up angle of a cgi Cruise falling 34:00 close up of real Tom Cruise deploying real parachute. The sequence includes an awful moment when Hunt smashes inside a train carriage. Also poorly done.

@mendostudio63 5 месяцев назад

This is why I do not like Christopher Nolan, because I think he's the one who started it

@alexman378 5 месяцев назад

Nolan keeps saying he likes using VFX as a way to enhance what he’s already shot. It’s unemployed film students and other morons with copied opinions who keep insisting that “practical is always better”. Makes them sound smart and sophisticated. I remember when they were talking about the practicals of The Mandalorian, and I was watching it thinking “how the hell are you going to say these things look good?”

@_UpVector_ 5 месяцев назад

He’s also fairly overrated, quite frankly.

@alexman378 5 месяцев назад

@@_UpVector_ I get that you’re trying to ragebait, but no he’s not, he’s precisely rated.

@_UpVector_ 5 месяцев назад

@@alexman378 and overreacted 🤣

@alexman378 5 месяцев назад

@@_UpVector_ Doubtful

@ukmonk 5 месяцев назад

movies should go back to a 90 min duration. if you cant tell your story in that amount of time then don't bother. want to tell a longer story then make a series...