Mistakes Apprentice Plumbers ALWAYS Make When Soldering

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Soldering copper pipe is VERY common in plumbing. During your plumbing apprenticeship you'll have to learn about soldering. Soldering scares a lot of plumbers, but it really shouldn't. With a little practice, learning to solder copper pipe become very easy very quickly. In this video I'm going to tell you some of the common mistakes apprentice plumbers make when learning to solder. Hopefully this helps you in your plumbing career!
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@mikew7168 4 года назад

Roger reminds me of that older guy you'd meet at a work place who'd be knowledgeable AF who'd always help you.

@chriswebster24 3 года назад

I never did like that guy.

@100achillguy7 3 года назад

@@chriswebster24 why though? The faster way to learn something is to have someone teach you. I guess it depends on your lifestyle and what you want out of life... but if you want to succeed you should always seek out better methods of doing something. Not because it makes you better at that task but it improves upon your skill set over all and its up to you what you want :)

@MrDillon2029 3 года назад

Dude this is like dead accurate 😂🤣 I love this guy he’s very knowledgeable

@ryanalexander984 3 года назад

Those types of guys are hard to come across. But it’s awesome when you find one.

@christinehort 3 года назад

“Reminds me of” literally what he is lol

@alexrochon1762 4 года назад

YES PLEASE ROGER, give us a video on silver soldering. Great video!!! Keep up the good work.

@coleyamos 4 года назад

Yes please. 🙏🏻🙏🏽🙏🏾🙏🏿

@blueg3027 4 года назад

Love the cleaning at the end. Dont be messy, have pride! Wipe that flux off after. Makes the joint look so good!

@ElswickJenelswick 3 года назад

Or you could just not point the torch at your hand

@mannys9130 3 года назад

It's more than just the joint looking good. Leaving flux behind corrodes the pipe which is why it turns green. It can cause leaks over time as the attack weakens the copper. Leaving flux behind causes leaky pipes and broken/open wiring faults. It's critically important to clean the flux off every single time!

@averyworldwide847 4 года назад

Hey man iv been an Apprentice for about a year. I love this work! I love you channel! At first I got put with a lot of different plumbers. In some cases I was more knolageable than my tech. So being able to watch to u do things the right way has been awesome! I love what your doing! I love plumbing! Can't wait for that 100 an hour lol! I work In SC In an open shop. Iv moved up really quickly and I'm really good at this kind of work! I study everyday for my tests and one day hopefully I'll be as skilled as you!

@shawn_paps 4 года назад

Roger Yes! Please do a video on Brazing! 2.5 years in the trade down here in FL. I love your videos. Always something to learn, even on these “fundamental” videos.

@leomella46 3 года назад

new plumber here (2 years) loving all the tools and tips from this channel so far!

@BrooksMoses 2 года назад

Roger, I've been watching a half-dozen or so videos this evening on how to solder copper pipe, because I figure the more advice the better. Your video is one of the best, and I learned several things from it that nobody else mentioned, including the different abrasives and the "3/4 inch of solder for 3/4 inch of pipe" rule of thumb. Also, thank you for not repeating the "heat from the bottom because heat rises" nonsense that several other videos said. Hot AIR rises, sure, but heat doesn't rise in copper; it spreads all directions. The good reason I heard for starting at the bottom is that if the top is hotter, the solder will run down from the top and then have nowhere to go that's hot enough.

@RogerWakefield Год назад

Love hearing you watched several other videos! I'm glad you liked mine thanks for watching

@alski259 3 года назад

Love the tip about bending the length of solder according to the diameter of pipe. Noobs (like me) always put down too much solder.

@Skorlang 4 года назад

The American Copper institute recommends starting out on the bottom of your joint in this position, working up the side , building a fillet of solder up to the top. Repeat on the other side, lapping over on the top. This applies for all sizes of pipe.

@Lordjerm78 3 года назад

I do minor plumbing at my own house. Your videos have helped me do a better job and make it look good and I know it will last. Thank you so much for the videos.

@georgedavall9449 9 месяцев назад

Danger danger, Lord Robinson! 🤣

@chuckgladfelter 5 месяцев назад

My first solder job at my house last month was a success because of your helpful video. I had to put in a new 3/4" main water supply shutoff valve. I also rebuilt several water shutoff valves (icemaker and two commodes) with the Home Depot kits made by Brasscraft.

@RogerWakefield 5 месяцев назад

Great job! That's an awesome feeling isnt it? 😎💪🏽

@chuckgladfelter 5 месяцев назад

@@RogerWakefield yes and thanks again.

@kelseyarmenta3909 3 года назад

Never will I ever need to know any of this or use it but I just love watching your videos and how informative you are! 😊definitely would love to see more of these

@josephlefebvre5066 3 года назад

Joe lefebvre with Valor plumbing. I’m helping you currently in Texas. I like the trick of folding over 3/4 of solder for 3/4. Honestly I’ve always used a little extra just to cover my butt on the fitting. I’d rather not have to go back. I love your videos. It’s a pleasure to be here from vt. Working with you and your company

@michaelstaley9979 4 года назад

Great video Roger. My soldering skills are good. But the tips you shared in this video will be a big help for me. If you could put together a video on brazing that would be appreciated. Thanks for all you do.

@NolanConley 4 года назад

I’m a first year apprentice doing mostly new builds and some service. The licensed guy I work with lets me do all the soldering which has been really beneficial in my progression. I’ve made a few mistakes but my joints have gotten a lot more clean in the last few months especially. Feeling confident and excited when I go to work. I really enjoy your videos and I appreciate the tips as always!

@lessalazar9068 Год назад

How's your apprenticeship going? I'm a first year.

@H20SOLUTIONS Год назад

Yeah how’s it coming along ?

@alimamythullah9961 3 года назад

Yes Mr Rogers I really need your plumbing classes.... you are really an expert in Plumbing....I like Plumbing since was a kid

@voraliswoofie Год назад

Your instructional videos have helped so much with my diy home repairs. This video helped with my technique for replacing a 1970’s hose bib that was soldered directly to a copper pipe! Keep up the great work!

@jean-clauded5823 3 года назад

YES PLEASE ROGER, give us a video on silver soldering.

@chrisgraham2904 3 года назад

Excellent instruction! The most common problem I see on other people's joints is too much heat and too much solder. They just don't know when to quit.

@stephenjones645 3 года назад

I’ve watched a bunch of your videos you have helped me a lot I am a residential service plumber in California and I very much appreciate what you do with these videos

@Liam-1066 4 года назад

I would definitely like a tutorial on brazing. I did some 2 1/2” on a water line, it seems like it held up haha. But I want more knowledge on it, thanks.

@Chavez3d Год назад

Left nothing out!! I am impressed, I thought you were here to sell a course, I was wrong great video 👏👏

@RogerWakefield Год назад

I am not a salesman…I’m a plumber 👨🏻‍🔧 glad you liked it

@joegill3270 3 года назад

Great video! I needed a refresher on soldering and this certainly helped. I'll be sharing that with our tech ed kids. Thank you! Yes, please do more videos and silver soldering for sure!

@danieldeak9141 4 года назад

Channels like this are neat. Not only do i have fun watching theese videos but i also learn something useful.

@Random-name87 3 года назад

After soldering so much throughout my life, its come down to feel for me. I can use the torch and adjust it mid heat to have it perfect for what im trying to do. I can add solder to 1 spot with it just cool enough so it doesn't run and then heat it hotter so it runs through the fitting, using the heat to control the solder so I can make a perfect looking soldered joint. Its very satisfying for me to have a perfect looking soldered joint!

@krakhare7111 4 года назад

Hey Roger, I’m a fire sprinkler fitter from PA and I’d like to see you do a video on brazing copper.

@KevinBenecke 4 года назад

Can you use the emery cloth paper rolled up to clean the inside of the fitting if you don't have one of those brushes onhand? You should have also mentioned to everyone if they are trying to solder water valves onto the pipe that they need to remove the valve stem components and all the rubber pieces so the heat doesn't melt them.

@gavindonohoo5736 4 года назад

I would love to hear more about silver soldering and brazing!

@roob2u2 Год назад

Me too :)

@waynecurr9569 4 года назад

I was plumbing and fitting for about 10 years before I learned the tape trick . Works very well .

@joshuagriffiths7947 4 года назад

What's the tape trick?

@joshuagriffiths7947 4 года назад

What's the tape trick?

@waynecurr9569 4 года назад

@@joshuagriffiths7947 you use your tape measure to hold the pipe in place unyil u soldier it .

@budkelly1242 2 года назад

Good stuff. All your knowledge is a gift ! Thank You

@johnmeiners3471 2 года назад

Thank you Roger good thorough lesson. I'm looking for any additional information about the fluxes, and to know if there's a difference between applying flux and "tinning". Are they the same?

@robertkordingjr8835 4 года назад

Go for it Roger silver solder

@dannykeane6565 4 года назад

well put

@monteglover4133 3 года назад

I was taught Never Never flux the inside of a fitting. Much of my work had to be very clean inside, process piping, ... I was also taught the first rule of soldering when you think it’s clean enough, clean it again!

@f3arful 2 года назад

Always flux the inside doesnt matter who told you what to do. Its like only cementing one side of the abs and not doing the other side, sure it works but you'll have issues sooner then you think. Same applies too copper, both the inside and out. Equal clean and makes the solder grab more effectively.

@monteglover4133 2 года назад

@@f3arful the flux will very often contaminate closed loop system, and provide limited if any benefits, if the joints are cleaned properly. My leak rate is near 0. If your pipe and fittings are only clean enough Clean Them Again!! This is the #1 rule in fitting copper I am a 40+ year tech, yes I’m that obnoxious old guy

@eusebiohernandez2898 Год назад

Thank you for your video ive always been wanting to learn how to solder, ive got a progect that im needing to take care of with a faccet in the back yard and your video realy helped looking forwad to seeing the next one.

@MexicanMovie 2 года назад

thanks !

@juancolon8816 Год назад

That is good teaching. Thank you for expertise on soldering and braising.

@RogerWakefield Год назад

You bet, thanks for watching!

@erikyoung256 Год назад

Good job 👍

@anthonybenincasa 4 года назад

Here in Florida where I’m at we don’t use silver really. I heard in Texas y’all have to use it under slabs

@oldironsides3992 4 года назад

You are correct and now some city's are ok with propress under the slab. But I still use silver.

@everettmaintenancecompany1582 4 года назад

Thank for all the tips it helped me become a plumber

@RogerWakefield 4 года назад

I love that! Thanks Everett!

@alantristam9654 4 года назад

Hey Roger 👋🏾 I graduated from High school yesterday and thinking about going into a plumbing apprenticeship here in LA at Local 78, but I don’t have a driver license yet. Would you recommend that I take a couple of months to get my license and go back and see if they are accepting applicants or look for mom and pop plumbing shops here in my town and start off as a helper there ? Also by the way, your videos really comfort people in these hard times man, keep it up!!

@matthewtang9290 4 года назад

Love you channel. You are like the Dave Ramsey of plumbing.

@RogerWakefield 4 года назад

Matthew Tang I love Dave Ramsey

@jr.8509 2 года назад

DIY here... Yes... all this plumbing stuff really interests me and I'm trying to learn

@rayyoung2611 2 года назад

The matching gloves and glasses tell me you've polished allot of pipe in your day!

@jeanjocelynlouisjacques9875 3 года назад

yes i used it almost 2 years in my plumbing school in canada that is a great tool.than you.

@Ghostpeppah710 Год назад

Great video please explain different flux at the depot they have regular and tinning flux .

@alextatts2878 2 года назад

I love ur videos dude...they teach me so much

@letslockit 4 года назад

Please! That would be great! Thanks

@thalowah Год назад

Woo … thanks a lot sir This is helpful and very useful information

@leoogle2008 Год назад

Your presentation of soldering the pipe is so professional. I would like to know what kind of torch you're using during the video. because I'm using Bernzomatic TS8000KC Premium Torch that seem to be the fire is too strong.

@andyplumbing9760 4 года назад

This man make sure to tell us the truth thank you man 💪

@chrisjohnson7290 4 года назад

When I was taking my plumbing license I held my torch on the copper and almost failed so I say always pull your torch away from the pipe and then flow your solder and what if there is water in the pipes that is a hole nother problem u should do a vlog for that thank u for your time sir I really appreciate it

@oldironsides3992 4 года назад

There are so many ways to attack this problem of water in the pipe. I use a vacuum a lot to get all the water out. You can also use...lol.... some bread, that is something a old plumber taught me. Once the solder joint is done you can turn on the water and flush it out of the pipe. The bread breaks down and comes right out. You could also disconnect the meter. But I use a vacuum the most. If the water keeps coming out after using the vacuum you could time it to see if you have enough time to solder a valve in to control it. Hope this helps. But that bread trick blew my mind when I saw it work.👍👍🤣🤣🤣🤣

@mcvera5302 4 года назад

Yes sir Mr Johnson.....never over heat.... you'll burn the flux

@nova31337 3 года назад

@@oldironsides3992 if you have a vertical standing pipe that has water, you can also take a straw, dip it in the water, put your thumb over the top of the straw and pull the straw out, then release your thumb allowing the water to out. You're essentially turning a straw into a pipet. You only need to remove enough water to it doesn't keep that section of pipe cool where you're trying to heat it.

@emilianoroque. 4 года назад

I’d love to learn more about brazing pipe.

@billkeller7064 2 года назад

Thanks!

@TylerRichardson14 3 года назад

I just soldered 120ft line of copper a couple weeks ago from the water feed to the boiler. Not a straight line either so it wasn't the easiest. But I got better the more I pieced and soldered together.

@juliozuniga6611 4 года назад

No reaming??? That's very important.

@RogerWakefield 4 года назад

Julio Zuniga you are correct. We did ream the pipe with the reamer on the #Ridgid 15 Cutters when we cut the pipe. This video was really just about making the solder joint based on questions that we have been getting. You are 100% correct, reaming the pipe is very important!

@juliozuniga6611 4 года назад

@@RogerWakefield I just said something because of someone that never done this before watched, as a tutorial, might not think it's necessary, I love your videos. Getting from Union strong Local 140, Salt Lake City, Utah.

@danieldawson222 4 года назад

J.Z., some times I even reem my fittings!

@knackers2773 4 года назад

this day and age, with crimp fitting as well some manufacturers say not to ream. old trick was to when using pipe cutters not to cut all the way through and snap that last part so you don't have to ream.

@danieldawson222 4 года назад

@420danksta420 never had a problem.

@jackmclane1826 Год назад

My dad taught me this when I was a kid and we were building our house. I did then most of the soldering. No leaks in the last 20 years... ;)

@Litephaze2000 3 года назад

Just like Alex Rochon! PLEASE! YES! What could be a better source to learn Silver Soldering/Braze on RU-vid?!

@oscarsanchezmendoza2274 3 года назад

I dig the use of the tape as a support.

@brucelyons2423 2 года назад

Nice video! Just learning how to do this.

@christianruvalcaba5332 4 года назад

Hey Roger can you do a silver saulder Video please

@realsteel85 4 года назад

Thanks for the video. Very good information

@Homepros888 4 года назад

Should also mention that you want the fitting and the pipe hot enough to melt the solder and it is not the flame that melts the solder and you just lay the melt solder on the joint.

@jb9652 Год назад

Indeed. It seems to me he's made THE mistake - which is to heat the fitting instead of the pipes. He gets away with it here in this simple setting, but in real situations in my experience the pipes can stay below solder melt temperature (even if the fitting is starting to glow!) causing a dry joint. Of course, you want the flame on the fitting as the solder flows but I like to get the pipes to solder melt temperature first. I've never had a failed joint. I agree that you really don't want to melt the solder with the flame! I use an IR thermometer a lot these days e.g. for surface mount electronics soldering and reshaping car bumpers. Getting the temperatures consistently right really ups the quality of your work. I don't know whether you could use it on copper pipe - I doubt it, but I might try.

@georgetobin4005 4 года назад

Hi Roger, please give us a video on silver soldering and brazing. I know of a couple of plumbers who say to not flux the inside of the fitting because it causes a buildup of the solder which causes turbulence. Have you heard this before and what is your opinion? Crock of poop? Thanks. Great channel !

@RogerWakefield 4 года назад

George Tobin I'm not sure how too much flux could cause the turbulence, but too much solder in the bottom can do that for sure.

@TsimonF 3 года назад

Our instructor had this guy on the big screen talking about underground copper repairs. It seems plumbing god, Roger and ol chuck Barron are the popular plumbers

@oldman6495 4 года назад

Great explanation. Could have shown what a dirty or a cold joint looks like when the solder beads up like water on a freshly waxed car. Desolder a joint and show how the solder does and doesn't covers the surfaces. Just a thought. CHEERS

@Jerkal 3 года назад

A good illustration I've seen is when they cut a cross section to show the penetration and such.

@theneiman 2 года назад

Great information for a beginner to learn!!

@danieldawson222 4 года назад

Please Mr. Wakefield do a video on silver soldering/brazing. I can do it but my welds are ugly.

@dblomvo7732 Месяц назад

Hello. First timer. Planning to DIY. God bless you. Stay safe.

@RogerWakefield Месяц назад

Good luck! Let me know how it goes

@HayzBaby08 2 года назад

So I just did some 1/2 pipe to pex adapters for my kitchen remodel and the shark bite adapter fittings I used took forever to heat up. I bet I heated the fitting and pipe for a good minute(joint was in the floor joist) so I could only heat the bottom and partial sides and my solder didn't melt like that till I think after most of the flux had boiled off. I connected the fitting to some old old pipe, but cleaned it thoroughly, but you heated that for seconds and got the solder to flow? I heated my fitting until the solder melted when it touched the joint not melting it with the flame. It sucked around I think good enough to seal, I haven't cut the water back on as of today to test it, but it took forever and it's making me second guess the soldering job.

@rogerk1710 3 года назад

Show us about soldering copper pipe to brass. I know and I have done it many times but still would like to see the pro do it. Maybe I can learn a thing or two. Thanks Roger.

@brucebratschi4300 3 года назад

I enjoy learning thru others experience. Thank You. Review of silver solder would be interesting.

@imhim2436 4 года назад

Yes I want to learn how to braze I’m starting my own business thanks your amazing

@hunterbrewer8832 4 года назад

Good quality

@joemaiuro3647 4 года назад

What is the difference between the different types of flux. I always see a bunch of differnt ones but never knew the difference.

@chepeter5093 3 года назад

GOOD JOB

@mikedurhan9941 2 года назад

Roger: What kind of solder? Acid core? Rosin core? No core? Thanks.

@JonKennoy 4 года назад

I usually have the helper wipe everything down with a wet rag after it cools to make sure we get all left over flux off and just make the copper lines look good. Out in Vegas in the summer it’s way to easy to use to much flux.

@warrenmichael918 3 года назад

I have put in a bunch of Med Gas lines in Hospitals. Stopped doing it and let my cert. expire but i enjoyed it. You should do a silver soldering video and show the nitrogen purge process. Im sure people would like to see what that does for the inside of the pipe considering the heat it takes for silver...Thanks

@mr.williams7911 3 года назад

Great video roger!

@itsokaytobestupid827 3 года назад

I try to sand that patina off equidistantly from the cup end, I also apply a thin layer of flux on the outside wall to prevent any discoloration from oxidation, especially if I'm fighting water.

@edcu100 Год назад

Hey Roger Great video !!! one question what will you recommend for soldering 1"1/4 copper ? that woukd helpme alot!! thank you so muchhh

@Empireplumbing45 4 года назад

Lead joints ! Let’s see it !

@TheGambit644 4 года назад

Id like a video about silver soldering never been able to do that before.

@RogerWakefield 4 года назад

We've done it. It's in here someplace...

@brettsh6647 4 года назад

Roger I’m a huge fan and I am in trade school for high school and I realized you forgot to ream the pipe

@RogerWakefield 4 года назад

Bretts H We reamed it when we cut the pipe. Sorry I didn't show it...

@rogeliosalazar4103 4 месяца назад

I would like to see videos on silver solder, and brazen

@wildandwackywade 2 года назад

I am interested in seeing on the job applications. Like we actually in the feild. I seriously thinking of taking this feild I like to know what I be doing out their.

@wemcal 24 дня назад

Great video and great information

@RogerWakefield 23 дня назад

Glad you enjoyed it! What was something your learned?

@wemcal 23 дня назад

@@RogerWakefield nothing that I already knew.. just like seeing videos of work that I do as well

@jacksplumbingvideos7147 4 года назад

Good

@Handyman247llc 3 года назад

Great video, I learned something new!

@mdanielp2 4 года назад

How do you braze or silver solder?

@armedprophet3321 3 года назад

Any old school plumbers remember the days of 50/50 solder or pouring hot lead joints on the run ?

@warrenmichael918 3 года назад

I am only 46 but i have poured a few lead joints on a job, we were gonna just toss in a few nu hub bands but the boss actually wanted to show the new guy( and myself) how to do a vertical and a horizontal pour. We were just a few years out of school at the time and had only poured in class but this wasnt all neat and tidy like in the classroom, it was real world basement and tight space deal! LOL Actually turned out really well. We always asked why he kept the lead tools with him, he mumbled something about the old houses in that area were full of old lead joints and sometimes it was easier to just do it old school.....i think he was just waiting for this moment to show off! HAHA

@raymondrobbins9495 5 месяцев назад

Rodger do you have a video on how to practice soldering. I am not a plumber but I do enough that I feel I should be better at soldering. What is the best way to practice and learn how to solder.

@RogerWakefield 5 месяцев назад

I don't have a video specifically on practicing soldering, but my best advice would be to just create your own system and solder all the joints together, do this often and to me, that's the best way to learn.

@raymondrobbins9495 5 месяцев назад

Thanks Rodger is this typical? I replaced a hot water tank and the dielectric coupling that was on the old galvanized pipe had a different thread then the new ones you get at home depot. @@RogerWakefield

@Pfannenstiel1987 2 года назад

I was going to install 2 sharkbites behind my shower until I saw your video about them so I’m learning to solder 👍🏻

@doubledee3027 4 года назад

Unless there's water in the line or your in a crawlspace 50' pipe is rotted with insulation. It takes years of practice. Easy in the classroom.... good video, practice makes perfect!! Wipe those joints

@WABoothPlumbing 3 года назад

Funny you said fire suppression system. I did commercial for 15 years. I've only seen one fire system that was copper with silver solder. It was a freaking mess. Joints were constantly getting bent and twisted because of how soft they were. Iron pipe is the way to go

@diemuebs4316 5 месяцев назад

In Germany we NEVER put the flux IN the fitting! Because when you do, in the moment you join pipe and fitting the flux will get inside the pipe and prevent the rebuild of the oxide layer. This causes corrosion and in water pipes affects the water. So in Germany the flux you have to be put on the pipe only by wiping the brush towards the ending of the pipe and only in this direction.

@jcarlosperez4614 3 года назад

Nice video! Show us how to braze please!

@explorer4161 3 года назад

Sometimes I wish that everyone watched your videos, its unreal how many plumbers I see not reaming the pipes at all, not cleaning fittings cuz they are "brand new" like they have no idea what the actual effects of "cleaning" the copper.