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Miter Hacks and Patio Prep - THE MOUNTAIN PT. 4 

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We are moving on to trim details on the deck and we will show you some really useful tricks for achieving long lasting tight miters on your composite deck boards. We are also beginning to excavate for the paver patio and install our stone base. We run into a few problems along the way, but that's all part of the process!
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@JP-gz5pg
@JP-gz5pg Год назад
You guys rock! From one deck builder to another, your design and execution is top level in our industry. Thank you for the vlog’s, good vibes, and incredibly helpful advice! May God bless y’all in 2023!
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Thanks so much my friend!! Means a lot coming from another deck builder, have a great year!!
@WillKHolla82
@WillKHolla82 Месяц назад
I discovered this page a few months ago and you guys have inspired me to remodel my dad's backyard as a late retirement gift. I can't wait to use all the tips and tricks I've learned from your page and show you the end result
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Месяц назад
Dude thats awesome!! Please send us pics!
@hfjeff2736
@hfjeff2736 3 месяца назад
Fantastic idea. I have used the Kreg for other wood projects but never thought about using it on composite decking. Thanks for a great way to keep the corners together.
@jhennesay
@jhennesay Год назад
Thank you for inviting us into your world, sharing tips and showing us how things get done, good and bad. I, along with others, appreciate the genuine enjoyment from the work you all seem to have and the sometimes, ‘today’s a tough one’ too.
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Thanks for the kind words man!!
@mikecronin6065
@mikecronin6065 Год назад
All the details look awesome! Incredible work, keep it up and keep the videos coming!
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Thanks a lot mike! Hope you like the new ones too!
@michaelmiller1109
@michaelmiller1109 Год назад
I am super happy to see your wife is helping out and that you are real people!
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Catherine? She's not my wife, just a woman with a career of her own!
@michaelmiller1109
@michaelmiller1109 Год назад
@@THEpremieroutdoor Wow, I feel stupid and how sexist of me to think she was. My apologies!
@superscort57
@superscort57 Год назад
Great stuff as always keep up the amazing projects
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Thanks a lot Ramon!!!
@altenneson7132
@altenneson7132 Год назад
Very Helpful. Like the tight to tight pencil tip
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Glad you liked it! The pencil bevel tip is one of my favorites that I have learned from ant
@plewaconstruction23
@plewaconstruction23 Год назад
Love from Canada !
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Love back from New Jersey!
@carloshuaracha23
@carloshuaracha23 Год назад
I enjoy all your videos. In the beginning I thought you guys were going to say “this is the mountain project, welcome to jackas*”
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
🤣🤣🤣 I appreciate the support my friend!!
@greenmanconstructionandrenovat
@greenmanconstructionandrenovat 5 месяцев назад
As a carpenter, that actually is installing a 3 tier trex deck leading to a pool, this is the very first construction channel I’ve ever watched for more than 10 minutes. The first one I not only have not a bit of criticism, but actually learned multiple tips and techniques as well as different methods to execute end results I actually implement. Spectacularly spectacular crew and vlog. The first RU-vid channel I ever subscribed to, and finally, the first time I look forward to the next episode. You guys popped several of my “first time “cherries so with that being said, what time should i expect you to pick me up for dinner? Asking because momma didn’t raise a whore, so you’re going to treat me like a lady…..ok, too far maybe? lol keep up the great work Jedi
@j.r.z5605
@j.r.z5605 Год назад
The mitered joints dont contract in Temp changes with the pocket screw detail?
@buddyrobinson2453
@buddyrobinson2453 Год назад
The intro and outro were money! As well as the Design Time clip with the Master Designer showing off his clean CAD rendering while explaining the layout and the different levels. Any of you going to the IBS in Vegas?
@laurenbaney389
@laurenbaney389 2 месяца назад
It's giving This Old House with Bob Villa but in 2024, immediate subscribe
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor 2 месяца назад
Well thats a high compliment!!
@UnforgivenLlama
@UnforgivenLlama Год назад
Muuuuch better intro! Now needs a spinning logo or some logo flash up real quick. Great stuff! Growing baby!
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
How you like the last couple, trying some new stuff!!
@sgwsteve1665
@sgwsteve1665 Год назад
I find myself saying "locked in for justice" ALL the time How was your holidays? You got a great channel
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
The fact that locked in for justice is being used somewhere out in the world makes me really happy 🤣🤣 We all had a great holiday, nice and relaxing, hopefully the same for you my friend!
@CaptainsOrders
@CaptainsOrders 10 месяцев назад
no joist tape, or glue on the miters?
@jhende7
@jhende7 Год назад
Happy new year guys - love the tips from the Ant man! Will 2023 be the year that POL moves to 4k?? Love watching the team work on the 65 inch tv!
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Happy new year my friend!! Ant is an endless wealth of knowledge so there will be more of that coming your way. We’ll have to see how much more storage we’d need to shoot everything in 4k, we already burn through so many memory cards and hard drives 😅
@cjcompton9112
@cjcompton9112 Месяц назад
Great idea with the kreg jig. Do you use special outdoor screws for this? I have issues with screws comp to composite. Did you use something with an extra heavy thread?
@andrewbeach1685
@andrewbeach1685 Год назад
awesome segmentation with design time and tool tips. keeps it really interesting. almost like talk show format. stinks that you keep getting rain. couldn't you tarp the area with plastic?
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Glad you liked that!! We’ve been trying to figure out ways to pop in more tips and some design ideas so I’m really glad you noticed and enjoyed it! We probably could but don’t have a tarp big enough, might be time to get one 😅
@stefboulas
@stefboulas 9 месяцев назад
Great job, so no PVC glue is required when you pocket hold the miters?
@markhlutz
@markhlutz 5 месяцев назад
Are you not worried about expansion with those treads pocket screwed together like that?
@b3arwithm3
@b3arwithm3 9 месяцев назад
Would you use pocket holes on a miter for a long picture frame board?
@CMCraftsman
@CMCraftsman Месяц назад
Any joint ever.
@keirafort4059
@keirafort4059 Год назад
When leveling out your joists are you using a planer or a sander? How are you testing the soils composition?
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Already answered your planer question, but the simple way we can test the soil is doing the worm test, roll it out in your hands and the longer and skinnier you can make it without breaking the more clay it has
@JM-io4vb
@JM-io4vb Месяц назад
I've heard that some people use glue on the miters. Any thoughts on this? Pros/cons?
@QU35TIONZcc
@QU35TIONZcc Год назад
Really basic question here. What bit is in your drill when your fixing the screws? I live in the UK and haven't seen it before THANKS 👌🏾
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
It’s made by a company called starborn who also makes the plugs!
@UnforgivenLlama
@UnforgivenLlama Год назад
Anthony looks like Trogdor when he's burninating the countryside
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Hahaha that’s hilarious
@cado7397
@cado7397 4 месяца назад
Great work! What software are you using? I really like that one
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor 4 месяца назад
Real Time Landscape Architect!
@cado7397
@cado7397 4 месяца назад
@@THEpremieroutdoor awesome thank you!!
@jonesboy201
@jonesboy201 Год назад
Happy New Year from across the pond. Time to plan something like this must be insane. Perfection can’t be rushed tho. Your guys personalities is starting to shine through, love it. Videographer is excellent and deserves some praise. Editing is top notch.
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Happy new year my friend!! So glad we found a video guy and he’s so much better than me and Catherine were! Really appreciate the feedback, the support means a lot!
@kbarton1360
@kbarton1360 Год назад
Also what depth setting did you use on the Kreg K4?
@marianmanole6447
@marianmanole6447 4 месяца назад
I see you guys are joining the boards so tight. No space at all for expansion/contraction?
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor 4 месяца назад
Nope! This is Deckorators so minimal expansion and contraction!
@30guarino
@30guarino Месяц назад
@@THEpremieroutdoor Do you know if Fiberon is the same ? And loved the way Ant did the pocket screw miters ....Did he just screw them down then used plugs?
@thornberryj
@thornberryj Год назад
Anthony is like a 30 year old with 50 years of experience. 8:06 for the Tony Miter Tip
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Ain't that the truth!
@matthewgriesch4227
@matthewgriesch4227 Год назад
Can you give us a price range on these projects?
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Between 100 and 200k ish
@mortifyd4805
@mortifyd4805 Год назад
6:05 Is that a naked man cleaning his solar panels?
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Yup, pretty sure at least lol
@AD04070
@AD04070 Год назад
Best grass and weed killer out there…..leaking hydraulic hose
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Hahah true that
@aconinja8668
@aconinja8668 Год назад
How ya doing fellas???
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
We’re doing great my friend!! Heading into the new year with high hopes and even higher vibes, how you doin?!?
@tomvanleeuwen3914
@tomvanleeuwen3914 Год назад
Any more clapping, and you'll be able to start a golf channel.....
@jakejohnson7714
@jakejohnson7714 3 месяца назад
NEVER ride in a bucket on heavy equipment. It's a good way to have a permanent injury!
@robyarrow9690
@robyarrow9690 Год назад
I have to tell you that watching your vlogs had really given me some great tips and tricks and design ideas. So thank you for all the time you guys take making these videos. Between material delays, weather delay’s and making these vlogs it is definitely an impact on the schedule, so thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
I really appreciate that rob!! It’s definitely a lot of work to make these videos but we have so much fun doing it that it’s all worth it in the end, especially when we read comments like this!
@jacobstrong6273
@jacobstrong6273 6 месяцев назад
As a deck builder myself I LEARNED A TON of stuff from you guys and love the vids. Keep it going.
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor 6 месяцев назад
Love to hear that!! That’s the best thing about the internet, we can all learn from each other!
@ackermanclips1408
@ackermanclips1408 Год назад
Love the stair treads, thats what i have been doing with our stairs. Love that the fascia color isnt the same color as the outer tread deck board. Looks super clean and unique. Mud sucks!
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Appreciate that my friend!! I’m digging these deeper treads we did here, and mud certainly sucks big time 😅
@jhennesay
@jhennesay Год назад
Clay mud too.😖😩
@therealmichaelfrat
@therealmichaelfrat Месяц назад
This was supposed to be about miters and your talking about hydrologic fluid? Complete waste of time, useless intro and asking for subs right away… thumbs down
@timbarry5080
@timbarry5080 Месяц назад
I use the pocket screws too.. but I install them through the top face. Then I fill the holes with fireproof caulk. You're welcome
@jacobmiller546
@jacobmiller546 Месяц назад
Does Kreg have pocket screws that for outdoors? The ones I have say indoors.
@mooch2u
@mooch2u 22 дня назад
Are the treads 14"
@Pepe-dq2ib
@Pepe-dq2ib 4 месяца назад
I do the same to the joints, but with biscuits instead of pocket screws.
@hnd2893
@hnd2893 4 месяца назад
So, no gaps needed for temps changes, expansion of the mitered corners? I'm in the process of doing my first small deck project, and would like tight miters. With biscuits, do you use a special type, and a compatible glue? TIA
@Pepe-dq2ib
@Pepe-dq2ib 4 месяца назад
​​​​@@hnd2893 the amout of expansion is determined by temp range and length of the pieces connected. I can't recall the exact numbers, but there won't be any problem with how short stair steps are. I am an electrician and we do have to add expansion sleves or outdoor pvc conduit for certain length runs. For very long runs you could make it two pieces where the one that will miter only goes to the closest rail post (>6' or so). I am in mn and haven't had callbacks for 6' miters. If you are a stilled carpenter, you could do what drdeck does and cut end pieces and solvent weld the end to hide the cut. Just use butt ends and not worry about miters. I only use Azek, which is pvc and use pretty much any clear pvc cement that you normally use for plumbing. Just make sure to put masking take over the exposed sides incase there is squeeze out, just wiped it off before it hardens and the tape will keep the surface clean. They do sell biscuits in pvc, but they are very expensive since it is a niche market. I just use regular #10 wood biscuits to help align the surface and use pvc cement to fuse it. No idea about other composits of mixed fiber and I was never satisfied with the supglue strength.
@hnd2893
@hnd2893 4 месяца назад
@@Pepe-dq2ib Thanks! I'm considering options, in my particular application, I'm mitering a 4' to a 16' piece, temps in my area can go from below 40°F to 90°+F in a day, it gets direct sunlight spring thru fall. I've been out in the garage 4 times now looking for my Kreg Mitering jig, I know I have one, somewhere :O)
@CMCraftsman
@CMCraftsman Месяц назад
Ive never had my decking move on me using 2p10 and pocket screws. Most of the movement is in the pt lumber below not the decking.
@hime273
@hime273 Месяц назад
Outdoor Living? This place looks like Middle Class Suburbia Hell.
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor 29 дней назад
nice!
@dougfields23
@dougfields23 Год назад
love the intro!
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Appreciate that my friend, going for the 90s sitcom feel lol
@jhennesay
@jhennesay Год назад
Need tips & inspiration to help me with my deck finishes.😆😉🙏🏽
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Hope this gives you the tips you desire!!
@tonynewton7902
@tonynewton7902 Год назад
Great work as always guys. 👍👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Appreciate your support Tony!!
@BlàckÐèàth
@BlàckÐèàth 3 месяца назад
What type /size of pocket screws are you using on them miters?
@EtoTheKay
@EtoTheKay 3 месяца назад
Another video I saw and the guy was using 1 & 5/8 #8 screws to secure the miter. Make sure the screws are weather proof.
@BlàckÐèàth
@BlàckÐèàth 3 месяца назад
@@EtoTheKay Thanks for the reply! I finished my project last weekend. I hadn't realized the jig comes with stainless screws 1 1/4 and 2". According to their screw chart 1 1/2" should have been used for 1" material thickness. I played with the collar depth and got the 1 1/4" to work and things turned out real nice. Despite clamping the boards just like they did in this video I still had issue with the screw trying to push the mated board out. Running the screw in then out and removing the flashing of material that exits the hole then reinstalling the screw made for the tightest joint. Just had to be careful with the shorter screw not to overdrive and strip it. Using scraps to test with certainly helped!
@CMCraftsman
@CMCraftsman Месяц назад
I like to use 2p10 on the miters. Not only do you have the adhesive in addition to the pocket screws, but you line it up, hold it for 10 seconds and it’s not moving. Now install your pocket screws with no need for clamps
@Tier1sprky
@Tier1sprky Год назад
Wanted to take time to acknowledge how amazing y’all’s work is but most importantly, how amazing your team is. When you have a great team, your work shines bright. I believe that. Keep it up brother 👊🏼
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
I seriously appreciate that Barry!! I’m incredibly lucky to have the team we have, I wouldn’t be able to do any of this without them!! And we have a ton of fun together which helps!
@Tier1sprky
@Tier1sprky Год назад
@@THEpremieroutdoor anytime man! you’re absolutely right! I’m working on building my team for my electrical company now and of course I strive to have a team like yours. Enjoy your jobs, enjoy your coworkers, and your results will show at the end of every job
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Couldn’t agree more!
@woodoutdoorliving
@woodoutdoorliving Год назад
What brand and size fastener do you guys use to screw the miter on the stair treads? Looks awesome!
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
We usually use the power pro fasteners from Lowe’s, they are 1 1/4”. Thanks a lot man!!
@woodoutdoorliving
@woodoutdoorliving Год назад
@@THEpremieroutdoor Thanks for the info and quick reply. Enjoy the rest of your weekend!
@jbake215
@jbake215 Год назад
Are you going to expand and do more than decks
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
More than just decks but we always want to focus on outdoor living spaces!
@brandonbollivar3283
@brandonbollivar3283 11 месяцев назад
Honest question I thought composite deck boards couldn’t have tight mitres because of expansion and contraction in colder to warmer climates I read the manufacture specs and it called for really big gaps in the mitres Which I thought was ugly but necessary Was I incorrect ? Live in Canada and it was TimberTech Called for 3/16 gap in any butt joints when installing below 32 A butt joint is not a mitre joint But will still expand or contract length way
@richardjohnson4696
@richardjohnson4696 Год назад
Show it all during the summer. You built it when the plastic decking is at its most shrunk point, what does it look like after it has expanded for a summer season? Many plastic decks look great when you first put them in, doesn't mean that is what they stay like. We are building one right now and it is beyond a pain in the ass with all the expansion going on, it is getting to work early in the day to fasten boards and cutting out when the temps and sun start to rise, just to get uniformity, come back the next day and nothing is back to where it first was, factor in the deck joist during the summer being shrunk too from low humidity vs winter when they swell, I'd be so interested to see what this deck looks like after a year and how well it held up. Your joists are also different wood than what we can get around here, the pressure treated stuff where I live is absolute crap, adding to the whole fiasco of it all. These decks are expensive, yet the products we use have a mind of their own. I had a railing rep talking to me the other day about his product, when I mentioned all the issues I have been seeing and asking how it effects his product, he flat out told me that it totally messes with the cable tensioning, when I asked him about staircases and having a weird rise and run, he said that anything not being 32 degrees does not work with their product. His greatest reply was saying that we should all charge an extra 20%, I was a bit puzzled, but I then got his jest, he was basically saying that it gives you the option to give money back to the client to make them feel better about their deck not being perfect, once you have explained why the materials are doing what they are doing and completely out of your control. I watched a video a of guy who builds decks call his work a 7 out of 10, but that he does it this way because it stays a 7 out of 10 no matter what the plastic does with its expansion and contraction. He flat out said that if you try to make a 10, it is going to fail and look like shit later. imagine all the contractors who don't give a shit and are out there building a deck throughout a day when the temps and sun vary throughout their workdays as they are building a deck. I see so much crap work already from past contractors that I am getting so sick and tired of seeing it all. It is a bit disheartening to see guys doing such shit work and not caring at all. they just want to get in get out as fast as possible, taking the money and running, many clients tell me that they were never able to get them back on the phone once they got the final check. I stand behind my work, and I feel absolutely screwed with what products are being put out on the market and we are the ones who have to stand behind them, when it is totally out of our control with how a companies product is going to shrink and expand. Once it looks like shit, it is all a bunch of finger pointing at who is to blame, and the famous line of.. "It is within industry standards". A line that is such BS.
@kbarton1360
@kbarton1360 Год назад
Hi there. Great stuff. My contractor just finished my picture frame stairs and the corners look like crap. Now I have to go and make them perfect because I'm OCD. What size bit did you use?
@UnforgivenLlama
@UnforgivenLlama Год назад
What do you do when it snows?
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Shovel it and get back to work 😅
@dansolomon3357
@dansolomon3357 Год назад
I'd also like to know how you manage expansion and contraction issues with the tight joints and miters. How do they hold up over time?
@markbrinton6790
@markbrinton6790 4 месяца назад
Nice work. Is there any concern with no gap on the pocket hole corners? Thanks in advance for the reply
@ivanbagual
@ivanbagual Год назад
Cut to the chase man
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Ok! Not sure what you mean
@UnforgivenLlama
@UnforgivenLlama Год назад
Pro mechanics too
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Or that’s why it keeps breaking 🤣
@tricksend4093
@tricksend4093 Год назад
On the stair treads do you cut a deck board in half for the thinner section or does the decking come in that width?
@Hampchiller
@Hampchiller Год назад
So much skill!! Be well!
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Really appreciate that my friend!! Thank you for the support 👊👊
@tacticaljody4381
@tacticaljody4381 Год назад
Great stuff!! 🎉 Keep it up!
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Appreciate the support as always my friend!!
@Aleksandr_Lukyanov
@Aleksandr_Lukyanov Год назад
Вот ещё бы по русски говорили а так , ну инструмент классный, работа халтура
@UnforgivenLlama
@UnforgivenLlama Год назад
Great soil tips
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Thanks buddy!
@davidl4213
@davidl4213 11 месяцев назад
Can you do this with grooved boards with a square edge?
@timlivingston1434
@timlivingston1434 Год назад
Thanks for the tips with Tony. That was a very great tip. Work looks great. Subscribing and following now.
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
Welcome my friend!! Tony is full of great tips!
@andydarrington3009
@andydarrington3009 Год назад
Love your videos and tips/tricks. Question, when using the pocket holes on the stair treads, do you use fine or coarse thread screws? Keep it coming gang.
@EtoTheKay
@EtoTheKay 3 месяца назад
Course. Better grip.
@AntEloftheHouseofEl
@AntEloftheHouseofEl Год назад
I believe it was Keats that said "A mitre of beauty is a joy forever" Pretty sure that's how the quote goes! 🤣🤣🤣
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
No I’m pretty sure that was Thoreau! 🤣🤣
@AntEloftheHouseofEl
@AntEloftheHouseofEl Год назад
@@THEpremieroutdoor 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@revfred2008
@revfred2008 Год назад
Dingos and Ditch Witches are trash. I love my Boxer and I also have a Bobcat. My Boxer haven't had not one issue with in two in a half seasons.
@THEpremieroutdoor
@THEpremieroutdoor Год назад
I’ve never heard of the boxer, I wish I would have gotten a ditch witch though, everyone I’ve talked to that has one loves them, and they can lift a lot more
@revfred2008
@revfred2008 Год назад
@@THEpremieroutdoor Definitely better lifting power, but has issues and worst warranty. Ask Tegran from Applwood Landscaping.
@revfred2008
@revfred2008 Год назад
@@THEpremieroutdoor what's your email?
@christinahaddrell2110
@christinahaddrell2110 Год назад
Are you sure the coated joist material is compatible with the composite decking ? Some manufacturers recommend it not come in contact with certain types of plastic.
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