Both are great and both have advantages. ITB is easier with an AVID S6 or S5. Mixing with a mouse is a PITA unless you have done it for a long time and are use to the workflow. Ive seem many ITB mixers sit behind a console and use the mouse more than the console.
Nice video!! @Skizooboy It is in a way. It's a more natural and tangible response. ITB has its benefits, but working with good outboard analog gear is more fun, interactive and lively.
frankpaws gettin a midi controller for about 3 dollars with 1 single masterknob and 1 single masterfader, touchsensitive, is a pretty nice way to get a little hands on feeling ^^
Wow, that's much quicker than with mouse and menu navigation. No wonder that they miss "turning knobs". It's almost like playing an instrument, as opposed to playing with a video game.
Fer Abra It's good midi devices out there to get the job done he still sending it into the computer prob with a expensive sound card...but no credit taking dude is good he prob can pull this with using a mouse nothing to him he just got a good ear and fill for stuff, he is texting reading it off or close captioning the run thru he had it all figure out
Fer Abra Yes and on top of that, it appears to be analog, which overall so much better of a sound when it comes to post-processed compared to digital compressors and EQ’s, gaaah I would LOVE to just be able to play around with that setup for like an hour or two.
Fer Abra But then again, you have a lot more available plugins at your fingertips on digital, there are so many effects now days, that old age producers never would have even imagined possible.
Johnny Partain Yes, many more plug ins nowadays, but what sounds better, a 1970s record like Ziggy Stardust with just one reverb and a couple of compressors through a real console, or a 2010s pro tooled, autotuned, with 200 effect plug ins? I like 1970s better, really. In fact, Daft Punk's RAM made a big impact because it was recorded....like every record was recorded back in 1970s.
MEX 777 you can use Pro Tools and a console. Nothing against Pro Tools, it's wonderful.Nothing against plug ins, they're great. However, the workflow with a console has to be much smoother regarding EQ, balances and pan. I've never used a large console, but I'd love to.
When I watched this I was like "Wooow, what a song.", then I listened to the official final version and the excitement went away a bit. I'm wondering if it's because the dynamic range is much tighter in the final master.
listen to the sound before mix, this record came to the mix amazing, his work and analogue equipment is great, but listen to the song, arrangement, music performance and audio capture was incredible, in youtube i see a loooooot of videos talking about mix, mix, master, master, analog, analog, blah blah! Music comes first! Please youtubers geeks!!
In the same amount of time it took you to do an entire mix analog, I sit and wait for my digital EQ plug-in to load. On one track. Oh wait…I just got a CPU overload error. Never mind. I meant in TWICE the amount of time it took you to do this mix I waited for one EQ plug to load.
plus to anyone that doesnt understand how mixing works... its not THAT easy.. to me, it sounds like he is working with perfectly edited STEMS and just messes with the eq,gate,and compressors and fx sends until it sounds good for the video.. but still cool
+jayce keffer Well most mixers at a certain levels probably have assistants to do all the tedious editing and comping, leaving them with the equivalent of a multitrack tape, so they can actually MIX and not do all the other brain draining stuff. Must be pretty cool to be able to just mix.
Most of them have assistants who prepare the session and if they trust you enough they let you do some editing which some times already the producer did (to not get confused about what it should be touched in terms of edition for example tuning (never let a mix engineer do your tuning that's something that the producer or vocal producer/recording engineer should do and some other type of creative editions) so that's why they mix so fast it's not only about one guy mixing 16 tracks for an album it's a team work basically but who does the magic it's the main engineer which in this case it's yoad nevo
I'm really interested of knowing how all this stuff works, how this console connects to pro tools, how racks and analog modules works, just the vocal track is connected to the compressor? how can i learn all this stuff?
Longy too bad it's very heavily compressed in order to get it loud. loud =/= better. :-/ still a nice track. i'd prefer the un-mastered version though , hehe :) less loudness-wars
Really fast.. - lmfao - no 10 min breaks this way I guess to let ears rest hahhahaha! - Nice mix man. Please do more of these. Loved this.. Just seein what simple eq-ing and a lil compression can do is awesome. Really wishing I had a console right now. . .
+Filippo Mancini The 1073 we got from vintage king audio which looks very similar to the one he's using has an added line input. Basically they just put the 1073 module in a rack sized box, added a line input and an output fader.
+jayce keffer He's mainly just adjusting vol / EQ - it's either an SSL console or looks a lot like one. . LF = Blue LMF = Green HMF & HF = Orange or red Black = LF Rolloff White = HF Rolloff Pretty simple stuff really ... then he's doing some bussing of coarse and running back thru his rack on at least some of it for extra EQ / Gain and compression I'd say.. - plus it looked like he did about 3 db compression on the master... :) Lol - Idk ... really just bored. . fig'd I'd try n explain all that I saw goin on.
+jayce keffer I've been mixing a year and have been lucky enough to work on a desk similar to this but slightly smaller. So much more fun than on the computers, everything sounds warmer, I find.
Damn dude just running thru that sh..."Dogg" you col'....keep doing what you doing right here...and get yo' money good mix down...not even sent to the Master people huh lol
